Joe Rogan Experience #1906 - David Goggins

[Music] by night night podcast of every [ __ ] day man pretty much this week every day every day but I was just on vacation how was vacations nice little vacations are hard you know because like even though I enjoy rest I always feel like I shouldn't be always I get it you go on vacations never no [Laughter] no for me creatively it's good it's good to get a reset because I come back in guns blazing like a really uh I don't I don't risk any mental burnout when I do it well I have resets

but my resets are like I call them Aid stations mental Aid stations so when you're going [ __ ] hard and you grind all the [ __ ] time like everybody knows you're 24 hours in a day but I'm in the shower it's a mental aid station I don't think about [ __ ] I don't [ __ ] think about people I don't think about work I'll think about running I don't think about working out I'm in the car another [ __ ] mental aid station where I'm [ __ ] eating mental aid station so

people eat and they work and all sort of [ __ ] man so I I can grind hard because a lot of times man I'm in mental [ __ ] a stations um chilling so you have little mini vacations mini vacations man all day long all day long do you feel now almost a responsibility to like stay at it all the time because so many people are watching and paying attention and drawing inspiration from you 100 I mean like I probably would have retired a long time ago but I get these emails from people and

it's like they're living through me like their strength comes through what they know I'm doing so there's so many times I want to get up and say oh man [ __ ] it I got mine I'm good and I'm like [ __ ] ing [ __ ] Tommy out there [ __ ] time to talk about this email Tommy talking about [ __ ] saved his life man I ran 10 miles last night because of you man I'm like you know a lot of people can live off of that and they can [ __ ]

be good with that and you know a lot of motivational people come out here man and run their [ __ ] mouths about [ __ ] and I know they are not doing [ __ ] they sit back and they're [ __ ] like you know they have their little brainstorming sessions about oh what should we say what's gonna what's gonna connect with people while they're selling their [ __ ] ass mind brainstorming sessions is [ __ ] out there in the [ __ ] grip of life [ __ ] grinding and that's why all

my material comes from to suck every bit of it comes from the suck um and that's the difference between there's a there's like a whole industry now that's dedicated to trying to help people get motivated and a lot of the people that are involved in that are very unqualified 100 because they're not really doing anything no there's so many people that haven't actually done anything but they'll try to teach you how to get your life in order how to get your mind right and develop that Warrior mentality i'm like [ __ ] you don't have

that well they're utilizing the weakness of the world right now yeah the world's in a very bad place so these these people who are like con artists they sit back and say oh I can come up with this I can come up with this and this right here can probably make me some money yeah so they're in it for for [ __ ] up reasons there's just not a whole lot of people like you you're you know I love that phrase uncommon amongst uncommon men because it's it's such a good phrase because it just shows

you you've been on this path for so long and you're grinding for so long but you're also honest about there's moments where you don't want to [ __ ] do this which is why it's so interesting because you do it right you you do it without any reservation you just go through it right but you always talk about I don't want to [ __ ] do this [ __ ] but you always do that's it but that's what people need to hear because they feel like that somewhere out there there's some superhuman person who never

feels Despair and doesn't have any there's there's no no hesitation so they feel like there's this person that's so different than them and so much stronger than them and doesn't ever have any procrastination and you're like that's not me no I love that phrase you told me once he goes sometimes I look at my [ __ ] shoes for a half an hour before I put those [ __ ] on it's a true state but but what I do though man is I I came with this thing called perform without purpose and so many people

they need to have a 5k a 10K I need to have a a course in front of me I need to have something in front of me for me getting my [ __ ] ass up and do some [ __ ] and that used to be me and nowadays you know [ __ ] for past 20 some years I don't need [ __ ] purpose and people miss out on this man the purpose we're all looking for this golden purpose is it this is the dad is it making money it was is it my family

[ __ ] the purpose is you we forget that every [ __ ] day I wake up and I don't want to do some [ __ ] [ __ ] I'm like okay man do you want to be a [ __ ] today do you want to feel like a little [ __ ] do you want to walk around all day knowing that you could but you didn't so I I it's performed without purpose you have to learn how to get up and do [ __ ] when you ain't got no [ __ ] 5K

no 10K nothing nothing exists your life [ __ ] sucks you're in the [ __ ] dungeon but guess what [ __ ] I'm still going to get it because when that time comes because the time is going to come when that purpose is there you'll be ready but most of us [ __ ] aren't ready because we don't know how to do without having the golden carrot in front of us no and so we all [ __ ] there's also this thing where if you do it once it's over you get a break oh

like that's what a 10K is that's what a marathon is I'm gonna train for this marathon and you're you're training and you're training for that big day but you're also recognizing when that marathon's over Ah that's right that's right and as you get better at that ah moment the armor becomes less and less so my arm almost now are like oh I ran today I went to the gym today I did this and this today I studied today I have about eight hours off in those eight hours are glorious to me and every day you

go back out and you start earning that and every day you wake up it sucks and when it's over you feel better it sucks you feel better and as you get going that's every step you take in that Journey as you're like for me run I run every day [ __ ] hate it but every step I take I'm like all right [ __ ] you're beating the demon again You've Won every day but I don't think people understand how [ __ ] up your knees are no no you you run over when you sent

me that x-ray after your surgery and I looked at what they did to your knee and and I looked at what it looks like right what the actual bone on bone looks like and right how it had distorted because there's no cushioning at all no and the doctor said to you I can't even believe you could [ __ ] walk on these knees yeah forget about run thousands of miles so you're doing this every day in constant pain right right what is it like well I don't explain your knees first of all so okay so

people think that my knees are bad from a lot of running and they're wrong um I I wasn't born healthy I wasn't born with some great body alignment some great you know I have sickle cell I have all kind of [ __ ] I have all kind of health issues you know all kind of I'm [ __ ] up so I had a choice to make and the choice was you know growing up you know okay this hurts that hurts we can just sit down and do nothing or we can see how far we can

push the human body so on that Journey as I started getting more and more into my mind and start realizing that while what I'm capable of doing my mind got stronger so the so the pain in my knees while it sucked I've been doing it for so long it was like it became our new Norm like okay my knees hurt [ __ ] it stop you know and I called like I'm stopped feeling sorry for yourself but you sometimes have to ignore your feelings I'm gonna send Jamie a picture you need oh no dude I

I think Jamie has some uh do you have a picture of his knee Jamie did I ever send it to you Jeremy I have it here hold on let me just but keep going no so it's like for for me I I made a decision and my decision was to be the best person I could and I basically a lot more as I wake up and say [ __ ] your feelings and that doesn't mean like you know don't take it literally [ __ ] your feelings but sometimes you have to go beyond what you're

feeling and my knees were [ __ ] but guess what I wanted to run and I knew that okay you can get knee Replacements this and that like I said it wasn't because of Iran too much people always want to say oh man you ran so much so you [ __ ] up your body you know you don't want to be like David Goggins I hear all the time you won't be like David Goggins but so there's your knee yeah there it is for us look at the fact that there's zero space between those bones

yes sir from the top from your your your tibia to your femur there's zero space it's just kneecap covering two bones that are rubbing against each other and so this was after surgery where they had to cut your knee slice your shin like in half and then take a chunk out of it because it had deformed so much from you running with bone on bone that was starting to like swell out in One Direction and it was changing the alignment of your leg right this happened back in 2000 2001 was going through buds so this

happened for long this is this right here has been going on for a long time so and it got to a point where it's like okay I'm done and they have to play this in there right now so as you see the wedge that part through the bone that's opened up yeah so there to cut it realign it and then um now the alignment's better but this is now about 17 months ago 17 18 months ago when this happened so can they get some screws that fit go back to that real quick what does Roblox

I want the one sticks right out of the [ __ ] bone hey cut that [ __ ] off yeah find that [ __ ] down is that thing sticking in your leg no I don't well I feel the plate every single time I move yeah so every team so because it's like connected to the hamstring so whenever I [ __ ] whenever I move that plate is very irritating so every step even like when I walk when I run it's just it's a very irritating thing and then you gotta wait for so long for

that leg to start getting back into place and if you see that other picture I sent of the foam my my foam leg that I put my hand in I think Jennifer sent it to you Jamie with the foam leg you'll see this in a second this is [ __ ] up so like the swelling in that leg was [ __ ] nuts oh when you had edema yeah you showed it to me in Vegas yeah you were sticking your thumb into yours I grabbed it yeah yeah so it was it was pretty nuts but

um you know once again it's just things you uh things I was willing to endure right there so that's just all post surgery swelling yeah so when the doctor said this to you and he he said look this is how [ __ ] up your knee is did he say you need a replacement what was he saying basically I had two options so I went to the first guy had the surgery done that's in the book I talked about that but then the second guy so after the first surgery I was done so this is

the first surgery after buds no so this is like back in uh looking at 2000 so me and Cameron this is recently so I didn't have any surgery going through buds really I didn't have any surgery at all so I went through in 2001 I [ __ ] it 2000 2001 whatever it was I messed up my leg real bad and hell we kept on going on it just kept on going what did you do to it in hell week it was like I I [ __ ] it up somehow like running or whatever I

have it and can't hurt me but um it was uh I think the boat I fell it twisted but over a period of time it's got worse and worse and worse so I was getting like toward all shots every day and then this got worse but I'm like [ __ ] it I'm good so I kept going on it so it kind of healed all [ __ ] up so it just kept going kept going kept going years later years later I just kept going on it so I stopped squatting so it became like okay

my knees [ __ ] up my line is messed up my hips are messed up I can't squat so I can still run it's okay I started running because running doesn't require you bend down and [ __ ] so I'm running a lot and they got to um 20 years later pretty much and it was 2020 or if I don't get this right Cameron Haynes came down and we went for a 20 mile run my knees were [ __ ] up for like 10 years long story short it was like okay man I got to

get this thing looked at so when got looked at the doc was like oh we can go in there and just do a quick little [ __ ] you know cleanup job and the cleanup job went so quick guy was breaking tools and [ __ ] [ __ ] up like literally broke tools and I have it in there he was breaking too I talked to him I know he told me your meniscus was the hardest meniscus he's ever experienced in his life he's like dude he goes I didn't know that meniscus could get that

way he goes like he's not human he goes when I was cutting into meniscus it broke the scalpel yep Wilson Jeremy said Wolf's lost something yeah he said normally when you cut into meniscus it just slices right through like butter he's like I couldn't cut it yeah mine went butter mine went but it's all those [ __ ] who think I'm putting them Hundred Mile weeks go [ __ ] yourself [ __ ] you don't get no [ __ ] like that baby by sitting the [ __ ] couch no I mean that's the craziest

thing I've ever heard like you've hardened your meniscus just through constant pressure and pounding yeah so he went in there to clean it up and then what happened so basically that little meniscus that whatever the [ __ ] was in there so my so my alignment was so bad the only thing that was keeping me able to do anything was that little [ __ ] up messed up meniscus it was all Jarred up and jacked up but the second that thing got out dude it was like I was have you seen Star Wars those those

storm thing those those those big [ __ ] um things that what they called um they have wobbly legs and they hit like long robot things yeah the robot things that's how my leg was it was it had nothing it was just like a little dangling [ __ ] like so from my knee down the shin the tip FIB it just Tangled like there's nothing and I was like okay man this so it was worse after the cleanup much worse like I was done I went from running 200 miles to I did 240 mile race

in in 2020. October 2020 it was Moab went out there got second place 62 hours and he was [ __ ] up getting it drained before the [ __ ] race but I still ran 240 miles literally five or six days before the race I'm getting it drained and it was a baseball-sized [ __ ] um it's called a baker's assist so they drained it and I went in there did the race finished it and I was like okay here we go went on to do some more races I did like another 200 Miler did

a couple more races and then like I said cam came down but after that I went and got this surgery done and I went from running every day to now I have some [ __ ] late to just dangles and after that surgery this [ __ ] dangling I was like okay man I'm [ __ ] and just from that little piece of meniscus just that little piece of meniscus and I'm sitting there thinking okay man this is not this doesn't make any sense to me this there's something [ __ ] I don't understand why

I can't I can't put any pressure on my leg the the amount of blood they were taken out was was unbelievable so there's the blood right there Jesus Christ that's the blood dude oh my God it's one two three four and you see the black blood yeah that is deoxygenated blood so whatever was going on whatever the [ __ ] was going on that's why it looks different colors so the red blood is the blood that has oxygen that's right and that was just like coagulated yes [ __ ] up blood yep Jesus yeah so

that so after surgery I'm like I'm like seven seven days out of whatever the [ __ ] it was like and once again I don't know the exact times but I have them in the book I have everything [ __ ] dialed in um I went back and I was like man I'm I'm [ __ ] up I mean it's a simple meniscus surgery man like people go back a week later they're playing two weeks three weeks tops I'm like man I'm never gonna [ __ ] run again I'm gonna walk with the [ __

] limp so I'm going back I'm getting [ __ ] like I'm literally getting my knee drained every week getting PRP I'm like man that in the back of my mind I I know how far I can push myself I know my body so [ __ ] well so well and I'm like this is um this is wrong I'm never gonna run again I'm never gonna run again I walk with the limp so this went off about six six months so I had the surgery done in February it was uh February March April May June

about four months four months after surgery four or five months I'm like hey Jennifer um I gotta find another you know somebody else look at my [ __ ] knee so I try to keep my [ __ ] together but imagine when you go from every day of your [ __ ] life grind it and you go to nothing like literally like 90 minute surgery done that's crazy that it was just a little meniscus scope 90 minute surgery done I was like okay man this is anyway so I found this guy named Dr Gamal out

of New York and we fly there but I'm like he can't fix this man because I knew it was a lot more than these it was just it was all kind of this [ __ ] up body [ __ ] and I am I'm walking the office and he decides to see me and me and Jennifer and then Jennifer's happy she's happy as [ __ ] it's like oh my God man this guy's gonna be able to get you a [ __ ] meniscus replacement he was all kind of gurued out but I'm a realist

bro I will push myself and I'll go as far as I can but I also am a realist I also knew the back of my mind I'm not gonna try to ruin your [ __ ] party Jennifer that's what I'm saying myself but this shit's done it's over so but I went just to pretty much appease her and just see we know is there anything left so I walk in the office and the doc's like uh yeah I'm looking at you X-rays and that's the Doctor Who's like I don't know how this is when the

Dr Gamal looked him up world renowned [ __ ] dude and when this guy looked at me straight faced he said man I don't know how you did anything with those knees anything let alone run 200 miles back to back 240 miles where the [ __ ] you did I don't know how you did it and so I'm like okay whatever can we get it fixed and he didn't want to get there because he knew I was [ __ ] he's like no you know we we can maybe you know try and unload a brace

maybe the loader brace will help you out what's an unloader brace so basically my knee went in on the meniscus side on the inside so it was like jamming on the inside so this brace kind of like it kind of helps realign the knee a little bit so then you cannot have so much pressure on the inside of your leg Yeah so basically I'm like man I'm like okay I'm not so this is all you have for me I'm like you can't do [ __ ] for me and he was like um no and he

was walking out of the office and he could tell I was like I wasn't too [ __ ] up but I was like because I kind of was preparing myself for the next part of my journey I don't like to lay in my [ __ ] too long you know I give myself a couple of minutes say Okay [ __ ] we got man to [ __ ] up we gotta get back in this [ __ ] like what's next you know let's go let's go see you know let's let's go back to college let's

let's do something because you're you're running and your athletic career is done so he got the door he opened it and as he was literally he was shouldered out the [ __ ] door and I'm looking at Jennifer I'm like well you know we'll go back to [ __ ] you know go back to Nevada and [ __ ] start again and he was like try to be unloaded brace out and there's one more thing we could possibly do for you and I'm like [ __ ] like get your little monkey [ __ ] ass

back in here bro like what is it like like like what the [ __ ] going on so he was like yeah there's this surgery called HTO he was like you can go in we can [ __ ] you know pretty much break your tibia it's called high tibia osteotomy they go in and they break your tibia they they like slice into it and they they wedge it to the point where they realign your leg back up it's a very painful surgery it's very painful afterwards painful as [ __ ] afterwards and they put that

plate the plate you saw back on and then your leg is so so your knee is still where it was because this doesn't get fixed so it takes several months for that knee to start working that way back into where that alignment is so now my leg is just now so here it is yeah so they take a slice out of it because it's deformed yep and that slice lowers the part that's deformed and tries to make it a more natural shape but you're still dealing with bone on bone so you're still deal you're still

dealing with the pain of arthritis essentially because do you have any cartilage in your knees not much not much at all if any so the thing about it it takes that pressure off of that so it was complete bone on bone right what that surgery does is it takes it over to the lateral side so on the outside so I have a nice meniscus over there that thing wasn't touched for years because I was born all the pressure was on the uh my um medial meniscus so your knee had been misaligned your whole life whole

life that's what yeah that's my whole life has been [ __ ] up so my Meniscus on my lateral side is pristine so now the way he did it is that all of my pressure is going on to that pristine meniscus okay so now it's all about getting that leg back aligned which is taking forever and it's still not aligned it's getting there it's getting there yeah it's getting there can they do a meniscus replacement on you no so that's what I want it to get done but if your knee is so far gone like

mine was there was no option for that was not because my knee was so far gone so it was like when you put that meniscus in there however it works he said it wouldn't have taken it like basically yeah we were taking it but it would have [ __ ] destroyed it because your leg is so your knee is so [ __ ] up so this was the only option for me don't they make like an artificial meniscus now as well yep and this with this guy really is specializes in so he's he's like the

guy to go to for that stuff what is an artificial meniscus consist of I guess it's just I have no idea I'm not even gonna get into that [ __ ] see if we can find out what that is because I got some [ __ ] up knees too not like yours though if I ever think about complaining I look at yours yes sir sir world's first artificial meniscus available in Israel and there you go Andreas Gamal yeah there he is and so this it looks like some sort of a clear gel looking stuff and

which is you know the meniscus is just a cushioning in between the two bones and the cartilage and this is uh oh look at that yep hmm but they can't do that to you no you have to be a good candidate for that so your knee has to be in a certain certain condition and mine was not in that condition it was it was if if you were a candidate for that would they be able to do it and you'd be able to run or is that just like to move around and walk from what

I read about you can you can run you can do everything you want to do but sometimes if you do a lot it wears it out um but you can get a new one get a new one yeah that's not that bad it's not that bad man for you it doesn't work no because basically it wouldn't even work for me because my knee was gone but the way he reshaped it wouldn't that correct I mean he kind of like changed your alignment of your knee and made it more normal right I think it had he

made it more normal but from what I understand um if you put that in there structurally like structure wise what makes it more normal is the surgery he did so right now there's no bone on bone for me so there's no need for that meniscus at all so a lot of people get their meniscus taken out if you have the right alignment and your body can do what it's supposed to do really yeah but if you get your knee your meniscus taken out yours cartilage on cartilage if you know um Dwayne Wade domain basketball player

yeah I believe Dwyane Wade played years years if I'm correct with no meniscus yeah I think in both his knees Jesus yeah years he had he ended up having like really bad knee problems but his meniscus was messed up back in the day they used to take it out so if you look here here it is in college wow surgery to remove the meniscus in his left knee 11 years ago while he was at Marquette led to ongoing knee problems he sat with Miami Heat I'm so glad that you have this [ __ ] thing

to pull up Jamie because I would be talking out my ass half the damn time that's what I do man you [ __ ] [ __ ] square me away bro these are a problem man yeah and the fact that you require your knees to do what you do like your your whole thing is endurance athlete right and to be an endurance athlete you got to be able to move your legs gotta be able to move them but what I like about and this was this was like literally a a trained skill for me was

I'm I'm always preparing for like not being a [ __ ] like a lot of people get to a point like for instance like if Jennifer can't do something like if you know if if she can't go for a run or whatever just like because she something's wrong like some simple [ __ ] it's gonna bother I got to a point in my life where I realized this is life and so I move on past things real quick so people like oh my God what are you gonna do David if you can't run [ __

] I'll swim or I'll go to college or I'll do something else this like this isn't my life so I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm I'm very aware how quick life can take [ __ ] from you and I've always prepared my mind for the next chapter and what happened with me was I started this thing called front loading so when I was young I used to be a little piece of [ __ ] you know like [ __ ] oh I'm not good enough I can't do this I can't do that the second I got

my head on my ass and I realized man you can achieve a lot of [ __ ] if you get off your ass and you start moving and you start motivating yourself try becoming a self-motivator so I started front loading and front loading these people you know you've done so much by 47 because I don't know what tomorrow is going to bring me so my my military resume is fat you know I [ __ ] did a lot in the military I did a lot outside the military I've I've made money I've I've done almost

every race out there hard race in the world I've broken pull-up records I've done a lot of [ __ ] so when these bad times come and also not like annoying that like work your ass off so so you can enjoy yeah you're taking a shot you know you you may not live to be old but what if you do and you worked your ass off when you were able and you were able to [ __ ] get up early able to grind if you front load it properly the back half of your [ __

] life is money and that's what I did the second I realized that man you are a piece of [ __ ] we gotta get going because at 47 man you're not gonna be able to do any of this [ __ ] 50 whatever you are so I front loaded so all these bad things have happened to me I sit back with man how are you handling so well [ __ ] I've I've done it I front loaded I had the money I need to have the success I need I have the [ __ ]

the the determination the willpower and also the pride in myself so when I wake up every morning I know who the [ __ ] I am I front loaded perfectly so I don't care what's taken from me but it's Gotta still there's got to be a strange position to be in where your body is your medium the body is the vehicle for you to express yourself right and your body's breaking down and I know that they consider doing knee Replacements on you too yep and what was that conversation like it was it was very basic

man like hey you know you're you're not gonna be able to do some of the [ __ ] that you've done even though obviously people are but that was a conversation and I I know it sounds weird it was totally fine with me it was fine because I had dude people understand this this wasn't like a a part-time job man when you've done without like Kobe Bryant and Kobe [ __ ] retired at last game he like 60 points or some [ __ ] he walked off to court he didn't [ __ ] cry he

said oh my God I'm gonna Mr sport what the [ __ ] he walked off he gave he gave everything he could man when you [ __ ] give what I've given and [ __ ] like to say oh you [ __ ] you you don't [ __ ] know [ __ ] which it makes me who I am I've given everything people make oh you you ran on [ __ ] up knees you taped your feet up you had two heart surgery you kept on going sure did I had somewhere to [ __ ]

go I had some other [ __ ] going I got there and Buddy when [ __ ] tell you you can take a break now hey you're [ __ ] up as long as my knees are halfway working I got to run you're telling me man maybe a chance I can't run no more hmm give me an excuse to [ __ ] not do [ __ ] but as long as I have no excuse I gotta do it but I was I was happy where I was I gave everything I gave everything to who I

am and that's why I'm people oh I don't believe that don't believe it I gave everything and when you get everything that you have no regret people didn't understand me people don't understand me now I don't give a [ __ ] I know exactly what I was doing I'm not a masochist I'm not crazy I'm not this and that people try to title me and label me no I had something to [ __ ] do well the way I describe it to people when people ask me like why does he do all these things like

what is it what is the motivation here I go he's on a mental Journey that very few people have ever been on because the what people don't understand you they or they misunderstand you or they purposely misinterpret the way you're living your life you're trying to understand your mind in a way that very few human beings ever get to understand their mind because you're taking your mind into these terrible Dark Places all the time and you're trying to pull things out of that you're trying to learn things about yourself and about your potential from that

that's exactly it that's what people don't understand I study the darkness you you find no [ __ ] answers in the light none it's too happy it's too nice and we're not really to be taught how to live in happiness well that just comes naturally to us happy moments but the dark times man you can't and you can't get there unless you put yourself there life will take you there but when you get into those dark moments that's what people that's why people how are you able man I couldn't [ __ ] read and write

to I was a junior in high school how are you able to write like this man [ __ ] I go to such places in my mind and I study the darkness like it's not just physical when I was growing up and I saw my mom getting beat and I got beat and I was some stuttering little black kid in all white school and I'm on stage and I gotta stay one line one [ __ ] line in front of [ __ ] 15 people and I walk off stage because I was [ __ ]

stutter all those insecurities and all those [ __ ] things man I used to go home and [ __ ] cry like my God man I'm [ __ ] up I'm so [ __ ] up I I'm hang on man as I got older we gotta study this [ __ ] man the only way we're gonna [ __ ] get through this if we study it so every time I'm in a dark moment and life's [ __ ] up around me whether it be physical or just life I get in it man with a [

__ ] pen and paper I'm like okay this [ __ ] sucks I can feel like I'm [ __ ] losing my [ __ ] but let's [ __ ] study this let's come out of this [ __ ] genius you know I started I studied the the the the black matter of the Mind the dark matter you know like [ __ ] Stephen Hawkins that's that's [ __ ] his name I said it right that [ __ ] studied the space and [ __ ] yeah that's where I consider myself man you know I

I was on a journal just like you said I mean you you couldn't have said any better and so many people get it wrong I don't give a [ __ ] man you can't for me I cannot help people there's a lot of cookie cutter [ __ ] out here in this world oh discipline wake up early take cold shower [ __ ] this [ __ ] that whatever it's all [ __ ] [ __ ] it's not but what they don't teach you within the cookie cutter is like our minds are like a [

__ ] garage and their garage if you open a garage and it's all cluttered up it's all [ __ ] up you can't put your car in there you got [ __ ] boats and you got [ __ ] kids toys and [ __ ] everywhere but if you organize that [ __ ] garage and you put everything in this rightful spot you can pull that car in there you can put two cars in there you can put bikes in there and that's like with the mine people talk about discipline and [ __ ] determination

and [ __ ] you know repetitions and all this [ __ ] consistency why people fall off the wagon so often is because their mind is full of [ __ ] there's no room in that mind for discipline there's no room for consistency they may do it once or twice but then the mind takes over and that cluttered [ __ ] garage comes in and then it's like a circuit breaker man a circuit breaker just overloads and it [ __ ] Sparks and our minds that's that's our mind man it's like a [ __ ]

circuit break that's so much [ __ ] in it you keep on loading it you can't put any more into it so I've I talk about it in there man so much about clearing space in your [ __ ] mind so then you have room for all those discipline waking up early taking those because they they do mean something but we don't get to that [ __ ] dark matter that is keeping you from clearing out that mental garage that's a good way to put it because that is the mind of most people is filled

with stuff that they have to move around to get to what they want and it's constantly piling up and just [ __ ] unorganized and organize my man you're looking at [ __ ] I gotta take care of the kids the kids scares was all [ __ ] up my husband my wife you know I'm I [ __ ] I'm going by McDonald's to get this and I'm rushing my schedule everything's just [ __ ] I wish I was doing this but I'm doing that that's it that and this I want to raise but I

can't get one that's it a boss of [ __ ] where's greatness in that man yeah you can't you you can't fit discipline into that you can't fit structure you can't fit consistency you can't fit the grind and then when you try it just gets [ __ ] it gets [ __ ] overrun by the [ __ ] clutter in your [ __ ] up mental garage when you are in these dark places and you're Gathering up these lessons how difficult is it to try to bring that back and convey it to people when you're

not in that space like when you're in that space when you're in the Moab 240 and you're going uphill and you're in the middle of the it's just deep suck right how do you convey where that mental fortitude comes from how do you bring that back it's almost like you've got something you can't even hold in your hand right and you want to show it to people I take snapshots so every time I'm in a bad situation like you know I I study it and that's the only reason I do have to should I do

is I'm studying this [ __ ] because I know that I never thought I was gonna be writing books and trying to help people get better but I'm I was always trying to do it because I knew I sucked and so when you know you're trying to get somewhere you know you suck you know that you you believe that you're a born loser you are taking snapshots man I'm like you know you you see something on your phone like oh man I'm gonna take a [ __ ] snapshot of that or how do you do

the little picture [ __ ] so you can save it on your phone I do that in my mind so when I get in these moments I'm like [ __ ] okay wow that's some [ __ ] good knowledge right there man I snapshot it because I know that I can use that later I can I can I can use this because I'm not out there just I'm not most people that go out and they run and they go out and do and they're like oh this is beautiful look at the [ __ ] mountains

and this [ __ ] and all this [ __ ] nah I don't like it my body hurts I'm hurting how do we get through this and it's a [ __ ] it's a it's it's a lab it's my mental lab and I and so when I come home I'm not forgetting it and the second like every day I get done running every day I get to work and every day I get through studying whatever it is that brings me to that place of knowledge I come home and that book was mostly written uh scratch

piece of paper at hand so I come home from from running and I write everything out I write everything out all those things and as I'm running I'm talking about it so all these things that pop my head as I continue to run I'm going through it I'm starting to layer it down I'm starting to break it down into okay that happened okay now now let's layer this because that's just not how it happened it just didn't happen that way what led up to this and so it becomes Me by myself in school I'm literally

going to school right now and I'm learning so when I come home I write it out and then I'm able to ride out and I'm able to think about it and say okay oh this is good [ __ ] this is this will help me later on and then it becomes what it is now and when you try to convey it to people what what do you when you when you're writing it out and when you're talking about it like what are you thinking are you thinking that this is going to get into someone's mind

and this is going to help them motivate themselves are you just trying to express yourself and let them do with it what they can I'm them you're them I'm them I and this [ __ ] up thing about me why I'm able to do it the way I'm able to do it I'm not above them I was never above them a lot of people write where they are they're right where they are oh yeah like [ __ ] you right now riding you have a good life man you have a [ __ ] good life

I don't write from that place I write from the place that I am the the the the place that created who I am I go back to that place I call it going back to scratch I can't write about David Goggins now David gogers now is a success people want to get to be to fee or whatever success is for them they want to feel that so I can't write it here at David goggin successful I must write it David Goggins [ __ ] man I'm a [ __ ] I don't feel good about myself

and every day I go through that Journey so that's where it comes from it comes from scratch all that [ __ ] all my knowledge comes from going back to where the real growth growth doesn't happen when you make it so far in life you make it so high up the whatever it is whatever you're trying to be there's no more growth there's small growth but you remember back when you [ __ ] try to become Joe Rogan you are now how much growth was in that tons of growth learning lessons learned so I go

I always reveal that's why I'm a [ __ ] wildland firefighter now what I'm a [ __ ] smoke jumper I don't need to do that [ __ ] at all but I don't learn anything from where I'm at now there's no knowledge up here the knowledge is down there in the [ __ ] muck so that's where I write that's where I go back that's where I learn I always go back to school always go back to the basics I always go back to first grade and how much of that is tied to doing

things physically though this is like there's a there's a certain kind of physical struggle that you go through particularly with what you excel at which is endurance athlete work when when there's a mental and physical thing that happens when the two of them are together that doesn't happen in anything else like you can do hard work hard mental work and it's very difficult and I'm sure you can learn a lot from that right but it doesn't have the physical pain that comes with the suck of endurance work yes there's nothing nothing in the world that

you're able I'm able to get let's say I that Moab 240 I was in 62 hours [ __ ] sucked it's just with blown out knees blown out knees literally a a few days before the race I'm getting them drained Before the Race so that's in your [ __ ] mind man like it ain't like oh I show up to start like oh this is [ __ ] great I'm gonna [ __ ] have a good time out here no I'm thinking all right let's have my [ __ ] knees drained like I'm I'm in

pain at Mile zero and that's in your brain I have 240 miles of [ __ ] ahead of me and there's nothing in life nothing in life this is why I love Endurance Sports so much I love it and I hate it it's a love-hate relationship 62 hours I equate that to [ __ ] seven years of life you can't get that man so what I know that Ultra does for me is it packs in it packs in I can't I can't live several lifetimes I can't you see because the knowledge I need to gain

for this life I live in today I need two or three or four lifetimes to be where I want to go Ultra gives it to me in [ __ ] high definition real fast 62 hours you go out there [ __ ] suffer you come back oh that was 62 hours I gained seven [ __ ] years of knowledge the ups and downs the pain The Suffering The the you've you learn how to chunk this [ __ ] down like oh my God man I'm at Mile 100 how the [ __ ] am I gonna

get tomorrow 118. everything becomes you you start to learn Life out there and you learn so much in such a condensed period of time and nothing in the world can do it like pushing yourself to the absolute limit I I caught like so people have talent people have a lot of talent and this is going beyond your talent so when Talent when there's no more Talent what happens to you most people quit people only go to their talent level and once your talent level is gone it becomes a mental Graeme that the whole mental game

sets in then and most people can only perform to their talent and they realize man why am I always messing up right here why why is this like my big my big hurdle is because you're performing to your talent and then after that your mind has nothing for you nothing for you I see I see Fighters I see Runners I see people who they're great but they get to the edge of their talent it's like [ __ ] man what what's what's up because you're now at the point now well you're telling [ __ ]

do [ __ ] for you my friend now it's the mental game and that's where people get lost in life get lost in that next level and that next level is found for me and the things that I do I was misunderstood that's a giant problem with Fighters yep there's many fighters there's a talent problem Elite level in the gym but when they get tired when they get pushed and when they get into that there's a when the world starts narrowing and the walls start closing in and they can't see peripherally anymore yep and they're

exhausted and they start making mistakes so all their understanding of what to do next gets clouded because they're thinking about quitting they're thinking about being exhausted when am I going to get a break how much do I have left in the tank can I even push forward here or we'll let gas out and risk getting stopped and that is exactly what you said goes on in the human mind yeah when Talent when you have a talent problem yeah that's exactly what goes on your mind so how are you gonna [ __ ] defeat that bro

you're sitting there getting beat the [ __ ] down by a [ __ ] this on you [ __ ] just throwing you down take down take down take down hit in the face hitting the face and all that's going through your mind is what you just [ __ ] said there's no positivity in that but when you train the mind the way I train mine [ __ ] ready man [ __ ] ready because first of all I have much talent so I had to train one [ __ ] thing you better train your

[ __ ] mind because my talents can run out way early when [ __ ] got hard for me back in the day bro I'm done I'm out see ya okay I gotta invent a [ __ ] that can so I'm invented Goggins I've been in the [ __ ] that that realized we're not good enough but Goggins realizes we're mentally strong as [ __ ] and we're going to outstrength these [ __ ] in the mind this is a big um unders there's an understanding in fighting that sometimes Talent is a curse because some

people are very talented and they just don't work as hard you know uh khabib nurmagomedov talks about that right and he's one of the greatest mixed martial arts fighters of all time for sure one of the rare guys to retire undefeated but he's like talented guys don't work hard enough no it's like talented guys the problem with talented guys is they can get by early they're they're like faster than people maybe they just have a better understanding or better coordination some people just you know we're not even like people are not even in their abilities

when it comes to sports some people are just very gifted yes but gifted fighters in particular they just there's something about it where a lot of them never realize their full potential no because they don't develop that mental game that you're talking about they don't have to because they could piece people up on the outside they win fights easy they stop a bunch of people in the first round they look like a hero but then when someone comes along that can survive that first round and then start dragging them into hell that's right oh and

you see and that's what you said when you drag a [ __ ] hell who's a [ __ ] who's a demon yeah you're in the long for a long race and they're hard people with a talent problem who are so talented they're hard to train they're hard to push if if you're their coach and you're trying to get them to see that we got to get you past this Talent problem we got we gotta give you the point where you're into that mental Zone okay we gotta get you way past your talent and it's

hard for coaches to take these these Fighters or whoever pass their talent and on the other side is that is where they gain true true levels the the levels Beyond Talent that's that's where it really is because if you're able to take a [ __ ] down to the deep end well my first just putting a toe in feeling the water and [ __ ] if it might first in the deep end he would take you down there and he's mentally strong it's over it's over man because they because they live in the deep end

they live in it man they thrive in it it's almost like you have to have the ability to go to the deep end no matter whether or not you'll ever go there right yes and some people are like well I'm never gonna go to the deep end but you should be able to yes 100 you have to be trained to do it you have to be trained for it from that time comes you're like okay I'm deep in qualified yeah I am deep in [ __ ] qualified I got my [ __ ] deep in

certification but you know what's interesting about this book is you talk about how there was moments even though you're clearly deep and qualified clearly deep end certified sir you took some time and you hadn't been a deep end for a while you were kind of a part-time Savage now that's right this is kind of [ __ ] and you're recognizing it in yourself even though you know your ability you know your history you know what you've been capable of doing in the past like but I haven't been there nope I've been there in a while

and you had to go back what's funny about that part-time Savage thing in there man where I [ __ ] totally dog myself it's the truth um all this became nice waking up [ __ ] bacon and eggs [ __ ] [ __ ] [ __ ] protein shake early morning [ __ ] and I stopped having those hard conversations with myself boy my whole life that's why my friends hate my ass boy because I'm hard on me if I'm hard on me I don't give a [ __ ] about you I don't give a

[ __ ] about what you don't give a [ __ ] you think about me nothing else hard on myself bro every morning I woke up all right [ __ ] I caught my morning meeting my morning we all have these [ __ ] meetings all [ __ ] day long you know we go to work we're we're working for somebody else they want a meeting because they want to be successful so we all sit our ass down try to make them better try to make them more money try to make them more powerful we

don't do that for ourselves every morning I wake up I used to I I had to get back into it again because in that chapter you see I gave him a little [ __ ] that morning me I wake up okay Goggins what did you do [ __ ] up yesterday where were you at and as you go through to analyze my life and then I went through a period of time there man when I stopped having those conversations you know how you let's say you and your wife go out and say I don't I

don't know let's make up a story here you and your wife go out and you see your cousin and your cousin's fat as [ __ ] oh no I know they are not hopefully not if they are apologize maybe so they go out and you see your cousin she's fat as [ __ ] he's fat as [ __ ] whoever and you guys get back in the car and you guys man you see [ __ ] Mary Jo how fat she was that's what we do we go back in the hard conversation that you should

be having married yo hey Mary Jo you [ __ ] gain some weight huh sister [ __ ] kind of big that's what I do to myself a lot of people that we see all day long we see them you don't have the hard conversation when we we walk around I'd rather you [ __ ] hate me and get better then like me and stay the same and that's how I feel about David Goggins [ __ ] whether me hate oh I hate me David man I hate you David but I get better from it

I get better from it and that's why when people see me and I know you you're you're in my little Foxhole if you're my fox one you become a piece of [ __ ] hey come here brother let me talk to you real quick Brother people don't like that [ __ ] man but I'm not gonna allow you to go to a place that's gonna be hard to get out of it's gonna be hard if I allow you gain five more pounds or allow you to take four more days off of school or like to

keep on procrastinating in your [ __ ] life and I see it and I tell Jennifer behind your back I'm doing you no [ __ ] Justice zero justice so where this world is now you can't say a [ __ ] thing I do I still do and I always will don't like me don't like me I'm good with that that's exactly what's going on with like fat models that's it I'm probably like you're beautiful no matter what but that's not true and the thing about it is I have no problem if you want to

be fat I have no problem with anybody if you want to be whatever the [ __ ] you want to be but make sure you [ __ ] if you're fat [ __ ] go go be fat go be real [ __ ] fat but let's be real nobody wants to be nobody does that's why I said it man nobody does it's not true they will pretend I'm fine with it but if I could give you a button that you could push and point be skinny all of a sudden you'd have this incredible body yeah

take everybody would push that button but what happens is man we get in this world where it gets hard yeah and so the harder it is the more you start to push back and the more you push back and then it's not right for people to talk about it's not right for like let's say you are fat I was fat that's why I talk about it go ahead and say something [ __ ] I was fat too and it was hard as [ __ ] every [ __ ] day to get up I know what

it feels like when you roll your fat ass out of bed and all you want is some [ __ ] damn cinnamon buns and [ __ ] and [ __ ] Chuck and milkshake I know what it is I know exactly this but I can't want it more than you and so many people just want it the easy way I'm sorry man it's not so what they start to do is they build this narrative of it's okay when the narrative should be you need to [ __ ] work harder you need to [ __ ]

discipline your mind better we need to help people more than just saying it's okay it's okay that you're not [ __ ] willing to [ __ ] help yourself out that's not okay it's not okay it's not acceptable even though it's your life if that's if if that's acceptable that's unacceptable and there's a lot of people in this world me included that if I accepted that I wouldn't be anywhere so yeah a lot of people just [ __ ] they they start creating a narrative about themselves that make it okay the ultimate get out jail

free card and now the world is set up to have so many GI Joe free cards everything is okay and you can't say a [ __ ] thing about it this is what it's interesting though is that when you're talking about how you had to come to this realization that you'd become a part-time Savage this isn't recently yeah that's uh you're looking at two thousand dollars not 2018 yeah yeah 2018 how long ago no [ __ ] no yeah so even though you've been through all those things and you have all this information in your

head it's like there's no rest no you never get a chance and if you do take a little time and start enjoying it all of a sudden that General in the back your head is like hey hey look what you're doing exactly you're being a little [ __ ] and so in your mind you had gotten soft oh 100 in my softness was still two days so if you look in there two of the days was you being soft my part-time Savage was me running like 50 miles a week me [ __ ] not you

know because what I used to do am I do now is I got to a point I'd be running I was like okay man we could do 10 miles today I get I get to 10 miles back oh no [ __ ] that [ __ ] demon that I let out every [ __ ] morning that walks the streets at night he comes saying no [ __ ] not today man there's somebody out there that you don't know have never [ __ ] met in your entire life that is doing 12 13 14. you're going

to do another one and when you meet them you ain't gonna be [ __ ] ready so Goggins kept on running so you talk about that and uh you talk about how cam came to visit you in Vegas and give you a spot check oh yeah oh yeah I'm always ready for a muffler like cam I feel like cam it's out of nowhere dude this guy calls me literally and this is one thing about life this is why you always must be ready always be ready never get ready people go oh hey what are you

training for David I ain't training for [ __ ] when something pops up I'll be [ __ ] ready so when cam popped the [ __ ] up and cam calls hey man I'm gonna be in uh Las Vegas you want to go for a run sure do sure do brother sure do while the Run sucked I was ready well you guys were doing like six minute miles for like 26 miles it was it was 20 miles and Jennifer was with us and so Jennifer can run her [ __ ] ass off she's fast as

[ __ ] so we went out but she's not a six minute mile Runner so we've been out for the first 10 and Jennifer was with us she was with us for the first seven she turned around I think she's like 15 miles so me and Cam went out after we left Jennifer she went back for another three to go out and get 10 and come back to him but my whole idea was I know the course [ __ ] I'm about to drop your [ __ ] ass [ __ ] so we go out

because because going out is a little bit um as oh I think it was a little bit uphill a little bit downhill a little bit downhill it's a little bit downhill so we turn on 10 Mile Mark Come Back and I could tell Cam was hurting boy but Cam's a prideful [ __ ] dude pry for [ __ ] love that dude so we get to about mile 16 17. and I could tell now he kind of comes off my shoulder slightly and I'm like oh [ __ ] in the armor feel it you know

you always kept looking at you know I you know out of your peripheral vision but I'm like this is a prideful [ __ ] man and we keep on going man holding sixes we get to about my 18 now look Cam's right back on the shoulder I just smiled I said you are exactly who the [ __ ] I thought you were [ __ ] and so we went out tested each other man good day went to the gym worked out hard went got some stuff Day saying oh we [ __ ] worked it out

dude we never meet him together you can guarantee it's gonna be two people that love each other but are waiting for the other [ __ ] to break a hundred percent dude it's like this thing in the back of your head okay maybe this will break them maybe this will break them so we haven't broken each other yet but I'm sure the day will come so so you run 20 miles and then you lift weights but see lifting weights people like people don't get it man it's not like lifting weights it's like you know we

go and do like so many reps like people go oh you're only doing um was like 90 some pounds on the incline [ __ ] do five sets of 25 with a super set of push-ups super set of curls superset of pull-ups super set of triceps superset of what the [ __ ] else was I forgive us it's a super set man so we're going through lifting lightweight but for massive massive amounts of reps and so you're like totally swollen and like it's just some of the best workouts in the world between me and him

some of the best workouts in the world man and then you had steak and then we had steak that's right and then I treat cancer steak right that's a mental aid station mental oh yes mental Aid stations baby I think one of the most important parts about the way you express yourself in your books is that you do talk about your weaknesses and you do talk about your past and how you started off on this journey and you talk about how there are those moments that you doubt oh yeah and you but you still go

oh yeah sometimes like you know I call it uh you gotta call an audible you know a lot of scrimmers man like some of the great quarterbacks they'll be at the line of screamers and they'll look at the defense the defenses oh [ __ ] defense is Shifting did he call an audible in my mind a lot of times man I'm like it doesn't mean I quit I I don't quit you know I may not make it the first time but I'll come back I got caught on Audible I gotta [ __ ] I gotta

I gotta [ __ ] get my head back in the game I gotta I gotta figure this [ __ ] out it doesn't mean you leave it means you study it more it means you study it more and and whenever I feel that something people are saying how do you handle failure man I feel a lot dude I feel all the [ __ ] time they go how do you handle it what I'm trying to do and this isn't being arrogant man I I it's being real not many people are trying to do so there's

not many people who can even open their [ __ ] mouth and criticize me when I do fail because I'm on I'm I'm trying to do [ __ ] man that many people aren't trying to do but I don't look at failures failure I look at failure as your first second third fourth fifth attempt I look at them as attempts I don't look at anything as failure because when you're going to try to do some not trying is failure that's that's and that's not some after school special [ __ ] but when you're able to

go out there there's no failure it's attempts because when you're trying to do something that's bigger than you whatever you are whoever you are if if if you're paralyzed you're trying to walk one step and you didn't you didn't fail [ __ ] that was your first attempt if that's your biggest thing that's how your mindset needs to go into everything so I don't look at it as failure is a big word like that gets people down and [ __ ] we give so much power to words I don't I take the power right away

I didn't feel [ __ ] do you ever have conversations with Cam about mindset we no we we really don't go there too much at all about mindset like whenever we get together it's really about breaking the [ __ ] down like it's like it's like wouldn't you be interested though in how he approached because I don't know if everybody shares your approach I know there's not very many people like you right cam is one of them right so like how many of them are like you and how many of them have that sort of

similar approach and how many of them are willing to discuss their own demons because a lot of people that are like super endurance athletes are very hard people they don't ever want to even discuss the weakness they don't want to shine any light on it you know people hate that yeah people hate it man and I love it and the reason why people hate it to me this is just my own theory is because you haven't Beat It um that's why people go man why are you so open and vulnerable I'll tell you everything I

lied about everything I [ __ ] up with everything I'll tell you everything I'm an open [ __ ] book I don't give a [ __ ] the only reason why I don't give a [ __ ] anymore is because I overcame it and I beat it it's not really talk about it but most people aren't willing to go to that darkness and that vulnerability is because they're still dealing with it when people who have overcome it they're open [ __ ] book bro because they're proud [ __ ] proud that's why I speak man

why are you always yelling guys [ __ ] you it's like a talk [ __ ] cause I'm proud [ __ ] you know I'm saying I'm a proud [ __ ] man yeah it's not proud like look at me it's like [ __ ] I know where I [ __ ] came from [ __ ] I shouldn't be here right now talking to you should be talking to you [ __ ] I shouldn't be I just see a fat sloppy [ __ ] I'm proud so I'm able to tell you I was [ __

] up many people can because you know that's a common thing that people say when I interview them after fights like I'm not supposed to be here this is not supposed to happen to me all right there's a common thing when I've had conversations with people and they you know they've won a big fight they've had this big event right they they say I wasn't supposed to be here right statistically like Chris Gutierrez just said that uh last UFC fight when I interviewed him it's like I'm not supposed to be here right probably because they

come from a bad place exactly you know they and when you're in the back especially when you're young you know we develop self-esteem you know by the age of seven if you're if if you're not good by the age of seven or eight years old you have a good chance of being [ __ ] the rest of your life yeah so if your parents are or you came up wrong and then seven or eight if you don't have the self-esteem but you [ __ ] grind you're like I want to be better when you get

to that UFC Championship or you get to where where I got or or where I am it's almost like you can't believe the journey like I talked about in that [ __ ] VFW not in the first chapter of that book man I'm sitting in that audience all those [ __ ] people and I'm about to get the you know americanism award and I was grinding so hard never took time to reflect in my life and this was like time to reflect and I was all kind of [ __ ] up and I got on

stage man just [ __ ] cried for like 59 seconds and it was such an emotional moment for me that I [ __ ] that I [ __ ] did what I did and I overcame it it was it was alone man you know a lot of people have [ __ ] like teammates and [ __ ] like you know family push my my mom was struggling bro she was drunk so it was like me my mom and so it was a lot of just me so when you're waking up every morning by yourself and

you're [ __ ] getting after it by yourself and and it's the hidden work people see one minute you know video of me running and [ __ ] and like like these Fighters you know they they see during the fight or after the fight they don't see these [ __ ] man what they deal with every [ __ ] day I'm not good enough I'm not good enough I shouldn't be here I shouldn't be here because every day even though they're [ __ ] the best in the world that little [ __ ] got seven

or eight years old is still in there saying oh man we don't have something maybe not good enough we're not we shouldn't be here so you're always fighting that [ __ ] even though you beat it you never truly beat it so when they get on stage and talking to Joe Rogan it's a it's a it's not even real it's not even all those mornings that you didn't want to [ __ ] get up and and I look at it as like a [ __ ] like a rock and you find this [ __ ]

rock and that rock is you and every day you [ __ ] fight not wanting to get up and you do anyway you chip another piece off that [ __ ] rock and every day you [ __ ] eat the right foods and every day you go to train you train hard and harder and harder and harder and you get up early and all these things you do to start forming yourself you're chipping another [ __ ] piece of that rock up before you know it you have this beautiful [ __ ] piece of of

of artwork that that you built but people don't and then once you get there you see it it becomes real like oh my God I [ __ ] did this [ __ ] and so like the the [ __ ] Journey becomes so real then but so many people aren't willing to [ __ ] chip away at that stone that is them to start chipping off those [ __ ] rough edges that's the fear the fear is never Reaching Your Potential that's it that always fallen short always quitting before you're done always procrastinating always not

doing the right thing and then one day you're an old man yep and you look back and go God I could have been great yep it could have been great I never forget one time I was running by a graveyard when I was [ __ ] just trying to become I was fat and I ran by a graveyard and I looked out there and I have all these epiphanies man I have all these [ __ ] moments of like of it's crazy man of just thought I'm always by myself and always in deep [ __

] thought about how to be better and I look out there I'm like man I wonder how many of you [ __ ] in there [ __ ] just are so upset with how you lived your life and [ __ ] just regret how you lived it and I'm running a 300 pound man thinking man don't [ __ ] die like this bro don't die like this so people wonder where this [ __ ] comes from from me it comes from such deep thought of trying to see what this is all about what is this

life all about what am I all about why am I here you know I had I had to find purpose and my suffering it had a purpose it had a [ __ ] purpose do you talk to other people that are like you and try to understand if they're going through the same thing or they're trying to gather knowledge as well are they just doing it because they're addicted to runner's eye are they doing it because they enjoy the challenge like how many people do you talk to that are like you I've never talked to

anyone that and most people don't even believe what I say you have time that I I do it to [ __ ] gain knowledge and all that [ __ ] I haven't met one that goes out there people really enjoy a lot of the [ __ ] that they do like like they I don't know many people can go out and run 240 miles at one time if you don't enjoy it if if you just don't really enjoy it so you know I I had many people build confidence in different ways and they build belief

in different ways coming from where I came from I didn't have any belief in myself so some people can go read a book and get belief some people can go take a yoga class have good parents I had to put myself so where I came from was so far down underneath like soil that I had to build belief by truly ingraining it in my brain so the things I do I'm always every day building belief and my belief had to be where it is because I was so far down so it may take a 200

mile run for me it may take 100 miles or it may take late nights in the gym but without belief you have nothing and I realized that and I was young I have no belief I have to build it in a five mile run didn't do it I had to push myself to such extremes because I came some people judge me by not knowing where I came from so unless you're me and you came from where I came from I guarantee you would have made it out guaranteed and I knew that so my belief comes

from going I have to build it and that's how I built it man I built it by the things I do it's so painful reading about your childhood and the experiences with your father and then when you went back and met your father as an adult and got with them and watched him get drunk and then watch him get belligerent and and experience it all over again and then think about what happened to him to make him who he is yeah that [ __ ] me up dude but I had to go like I realized

I was [ __ ] I realized I was just uh sorry [ __ ] you know I quit prayer rescue I sprayed the water every time [ __ ] got hard like I said I didn't have talent you know I I [ __ ] didn't have [ __ ] whenever [ __ ] got hard for me I thought I was on my way out and I got sucked back in I become I become a loser again real quick and I see him all the time there's a lot of [ __ ] losers out here that

won't face it I was like oh man you gotta go back and visit this [ __ ] I haven't seen my dad in [ __ ] years man years but I knew where I came from I knew where my mindset came from I knew where my demons were so my whole idea if I went back to see my dad was I was hoping that I could just [ __ ] call myself illusion it's because of you Dad so I was hoping to go back and get the confirmation that I always wanted that wasn't my fault

that voice in my head was so loud it's not your fault David it's not your fault you can't read and write it's not your fault that people call you [ __ ] [ __ ] not your fault it's not your fault this not your fault that's not your fault that you're fast not your fault that you're that that you quit [ __ ] it's not your fault so I was like okay man go back visit this [ __ ] so I can just squash it and I can just go on and be a [ __

] loser because you [ __ ] me up and I got there I went drove to Buffalo saw my dad same routine as it was when I was eight years old man walked in what's up went to Skateland I sat in that [ __ ] couch that he would cheat my mom with I stay on that couch in the corner and I was like God what the [ __ ] man it is a whole normal day and the more I was around him he started now he started getting drunk and and I won't go through

the whole thing but I started seeing man I started having a conference I always had these conversations myself like man this [ __ ] he came from hell his dad would put him in front of a furnace and like if he moved he'd get burnt so when when my dad got beat um his dad would put me from the furnace and if he would have moved he'd [ __ ] get burnt up so my dad said to sit there and take it so he never dealt with his [ __ ] demons so his demons became

mine his demons became mine [ __ ] think you die and and the demon goes with you man don't be a [ __ ] fool bro you know like that's why I'm proud of myself I took his demons and mine and people I was looking for some great [ __ ] apology you know oh my God like I'm you know my dad needs to say sorry or people who [ __ ] called you out your name or and I'm not going to come back and say sorry to you [ __ ] ain't nobody's saying [

__ ] to you you better [ __ ] man the [ __ ] up so I looked at him he didn't face his demons but I'm gonna face mine so that drive back home that's what I started doing you know what's one of the most most [ __ ] up things that I've learned over time is that almost all like truly exceptional and mentally strong people have been through hell it's very few that put themselves through hell when life is great just not usually the case right and to to achieve the the standards that you've

achieved to achieve the become the person that you are today and have the influence that you have this Global influence on people too many people have laced up their shoes because they heard your voice how many people have just moved into action and changed their life because they've heard you talk or seen you talk it's it's there's a thing that happened and it happened out of hell and I don't think it ever happens without that it's like you had to go through that in order to empower all these other people in order to become who

you are and that as an example and then your words as an example and you're describing of it and then your description of your own shortcomings and failures that give people confidence that you it's not like you're this superhuman person that is like a character in a book right now you're a real human being who has real insecurities and real failures in your past and and real demons and you figured out a way to harness that energy and just keep going forward and not quit that's it that's really I mean there there are no timeouts

you know people like I you know there's a part in the book that I talk about a prisoner mind and that's about my mother and you know she just um that's I would never listen to that part again in that book that was hard just so you know man like I will never again listen to that [ __ ] your mother's very very very brave oh to be able to talk like that to be able to um to be able to talk like that um to the world and to to just she lost her life

she lost this giant chunk of her life with this abusive man and to hear her talking about him hitting her and what it was like and the fact that she never came from a family that hit her she had never been hit before never into to have her express it the way she did so honestly and openly very powerful the whole time she's talking man she's on the cusp of like losing it like I'm in the other room so I'm interviewing her and I'm hearing this [ __ ] so I I knew a lot about

it obviously I lived it and that's what [ __ ] me up the most man when you see like I said I wasn't a smart kid growing up but who would ever made me whatever the [ __ ] made me I'm so [ __ ] my mind is sharp man like it's it's crazy like I could I was so aware of so much [ __ ] I was so bright in that way and to see your mom go through that [ __ ] as that young kid and like I was going through it and she

was going through right beside me like when I got my ass beat she got her ass beat it was it's [ __ ] up man like you you just can't you know people you know people like to judge who you are man why you cuss so much man my life wasn't [ __ ] PG [ __ ] like you know you can't just turn who the [ __ ] you are off when you see your mom going with that kind of [ __ ] and then I'm coming to her defense at seven or eight years

old and she's getting her [ __ ] ass beat by a 220 pound man I'm [ __ ] some little kid you know what kind of Curves it takes to Muster that up to go help her out and see her [ __ ] up like that in the time she would cry and be bruised up and [ __ ] it was just it was a it was a [ __ ] nightmare and hear her talk about it like the part where my dad says I brought this belt from Texas this belt came all the way

from Texas whip your ass with and I it was like what the f like where am I at right now because I knew no other households right we're [ __ ] living like this man I and and I knew it I knew it and then she was shut off she was shut off from the world and when I wrote can't hurt me she refused she said [ __ ] don't put my [ __ ] in there she was so embarrassed you know like like I put in there man she [ __ ] married a [

__ ] prisoner so my mom was so [ __ ] up she was so [ __ ] up by the [ __ ] and people go if you go man you're a mama's boy [ __ ] I know mama's boy man see your mom goes to this [ __ ] you can make sure she's taken care of so she came out and one of the people that you know she she got married a few times because she was looking for something that my dad stripped from her and she was out she was gone for years

she just is not coming back she's 70. she's 75. and but in that book I talk about man she's like don't don't put that you know and can't hurt me but now she's getting better and she's allowing me more to talk more about my life which was also some of her life the part about marrying a prisoner is so crazy dude it was a [ __ ] but not just a prisoner but a prisoner who killed a woman dude this so it was so [ __ ] up it's hard for me to talk about because

it's almost like I was like I had a front row seat at a horse show so when my mom left my dad she went to Wilmeth and he got murdered I talked about that can't hurt me he got murdered so that took her all the way over the edge I mean he got shot [ __ ] six times in the last shot this [ __ ] got right up on his head and made sure he was dead like forehead shot and so she didn't cry she didn't cry she's lost it was over she a whole

other person became and so I'm [ __ ] now like 12 13 14 what the [ __ ] I was I'm watching this woman every day front row seat just watching her let's go through live [ __ ] up and then I'm about to go in the military into the Air Force and like two years out man you know I'm like a sophomore in high school phone's ringing every night she tell me don't get on the phone don't get on the phone don't get on the phone 15 minute calls hang up 15 minute call hang

up 15 minute call hang up what the [ __ ] is going on but see the way I was growing like the way I was raised you don't ask your Mom what's going on it ain't like now like conversations and [ __ ] with the parents you shut the [ __ ] up and that's I didn't ask [ __ ] but I knew something was [ __ ] because like three four hours a night 15 minute hang out because he was in prison this guy was in prison so he only had 15 minutes on the

phone he had to put more money in it how did you meet him she started working so she was always about helping people out but the thing about it was like I was right in front of her and needed so much [ __ ] help and I was that was [ __ ] up for me for a long time but she helped out so many people but I guess since I was with her through the Journey I just I didn't count but it's all good man it's what life's about you got to understand what your

mom went through says I can be good with it you know like I saw that so I had to man up a lot more than what so she saw people needed help so she started teaching the prison so she had a full-time job at the at DePaul University in Greencastle Indiana and then she started teaching in a prison and she met this prisoner this prisoner obviously I don't know slitter a note or some [ __ ] like that and you know she was looking for anything she was looking for anybody that loved her because my

dad beat the [ __ ] life out of her and and my dad so my dad wouldn't marry my mom but ended up marrying a woman um that was tied to like I'm not even gonna go there man I'm not trying to get [ __ ] suited and [ __ ] right now man but he he married somebody that was [ __ ] up it's [ __ ] up so anyway um she she met him in prison and um the phone was ringing every night she didn't tell me about it because I could tell your

son hey David um I'm I'm in love with the prisoner so before I murdered a woman oh no I'm about to get to that bro so I'm [ __ ] now about a week out or whatever the [ __ ] was from leaving for boot camp and she lets me know what's up and so I'm about to leave for boot camp and I'm so protective of my mom and she lays this on me yeah um sit down let me let's have a talk and she never does this [ __ ] man she's like there was

nothing ever hidden from me that's why I grew up so fast like that abusive life and what she was going through it was fronting Center her being broke everything this was the only secret she kept for me she was um those phone calls you know I've been uh seeing someone in prison all right cool whatever I'm thinking what the [ __ ] is this man so you know I hated I didn't want to ask how the [ __ ] did you get to prison so I'm sitting there I'm sitting there sitting there and I'm like

okay man I got a [ __ ] ask this [ __ ] question how the [ __ ] you know what happened you know she's like well does one of those things you know because she knows it's [ __ ] bad well he was in the drugs and stuff like that I'm thinking okay maybe drug dealer something like that he was in the drugs that's for sure but he literally I don't know how it went down but he choked a woman to death over some drugs and I'll know the ins and outs and all this

other [ __ ] and um that's who she was gonna [ __ ] be with and he was getting out of prison literally in a few weeks after I was going to Air Force boot camp so I'm at [ __ ] Air Force boot camp thinking about my mom's about to [ __ ] marry a [ __ ] dude who got sent to prison marry him right away too right away so the first time I meet this [ __ ] dude is that my [ __ ] Air Force graduation my [ __ ] Air Force

graduation and she was like you ain't putting that [ __ ] and can't hurt me she was embarrassed about it and then she saw how I went totally like [ __ ] vulnerable and she was like [ __ ] it go ahead and so this is so much more to it but he ended up um uh I think it was last year or maybe this year he oh deed so my mom divorced him obviously after it it it didn't work out and she was telling me a story one time we were talking about this book

she started opening more up about the relationship with this uh with this prisoner and she said one night they got into a fight you know not not physical you know he never hit her like my dad did so many times but he said one night she was sleeping and had her back to him and all she thought about all [ __ ] night was because she started slowly realizing like I'm [ __ ] up like I just murdered a [ __ ] guy from prison that killed somebody and she started realizing it more and more

but she's laying in bed and she will and she was like if this [ __ ] gonna [ __ ] kill me tonight and she started telling me these [ __ ] stories man and I'm like and I'm just like what the [ __ ] man like like you know it's just it it was tough it was it was a tough way to grow up man it was a tough way to grow up so yeah he ended up um so they got divorced uh I think it worked maybe two years where the [ __ ]

it was whatever it doesn't matter and then um I think he OD'd last year hey OD last year killed himself he killed himself he's OD'd so the the idea of you going off to boot camp knowing that your mom's gonna be alone with this guy getting out of prison yeah that [ __ ] must have been haunting it [ __ ] me up every night oh my God every night I'm I'm sitting in the [ __ ] in my bunk thinking and then I I knew the date he was getting out of prison and like

you know you can't just get on the phone and call hey Mom what's going on you know no you're in boot camp you get like every now and then they say okay you have like a phone call once a week or some [ __ ] I think every Sunday was a phone call and I'll never forget when he got to the house man I actually got I was [ __ ] not right so I got recycled so a week in boot camp so like I [ __ ] I don't know I [ __ ] did

something in boot camp but [ __ ] got recycled I was sneaking in Snickers bars I was just all kind of belligerent and [ __ ] I was just out of it I was I was sneaking out in this [ __ ] I was just [ __ ] not right that was one right and so then I um yeah this it was [ __ ] up just it's [ __ ] up it wasn't like when you met him I try to be supportive because that's what I always did my mom whatever made her happy I

tried that was my [ __ ] number one priority was I I never cared about myself never never ever which makes what I do now for people yeah I understand because I care about people even though I'm an introvert I'm an introvert because my [ __ ] life sucked but what I do for people I really do that's why I want to make sure that [ __ ] like that that [ __ ] book and things I do that's why I don't [ __ ] like why don't you sell [ __ ] why don't you

always you know why aren't you like promoting this and that and no man no I care that you understand that I [ __ ] want to see you [ __ ] kill [ __ ] I want to see you better so you know when I met him I was supportive and I was and I sat back and looked at him and I wanted to [ __ ] beat this [ __ ] down so bad because I knew like you're not a good egg bro you're not a good egg man I'm not saying yeah I mean

you know I'm not saying prisoners are bad they can be rehabilitated but I always had these feelings about people if I get around you I can [ __ ] I I mean I tell you but when you grow up the way I grow up man you have this you have these ways of knowing pieces of [ __ ] I became an expert in pieces of [ __ ] I used to be one my dad was one so you can [ __ ] pick him out you can pick out liars and all kind of con artists

from a mile away because [ __ ] I studied it studied myself I know who you are so you can't come around me bullshitting me man can't right so it's just it was horrible it was horrible so you know like the the one woman I cared about more than anything in the world because I saw her hell I'm looking at this [ __ ] now and now I'm have to go to [ __ ] pear rescue school and all this other [ __ ] while she's [ __ ] with this guy so there are a

lot of things in my mind that that just made it hard that I studied I studied my mind during these times I started now this this process to become who I am today of learning life and how hard life is that's why I'm speaking about the good times everybody gets so man why don't you speak about the good times I don't need to help you through those brother I do not need to help you you don't turn on David Goggins for the good times you turn on David Goggins when you don't feel like doing [

__ ] you're an expert in Dark Matter dark [ __ ] matter that's what I am so yeah I know it really well so it wasn't like I wished for it one of the things that's hilarious in the book is that you you read all the [ __ ] that people write to you all day and you record it and then you play brother I'm gonna tell you right now man that started honestly when this [ __ ] still from still Team Six came out it started lying his [ __ ] ass off about me

this is an important subject we should talk about this because your military career and the what you've done is always misrepresented oh yeah even by people that should know better oh yeah oh they know better but what what makes people feel good like when you become successful when you become successful and I had to realize this and this guy made me realize this I had to study them when you become successful especially within a fraternity like that like this is this is a fraternity bro this isn't like a [ __ ] like oh like in

the Air Force you know it was this is a very different world so several seals no I'm gonna say there's a lot that would like to see me [ __ ] a lot they like see a lot of people not do well and them do great yeah and like they all know we eat our own we eat our own and that's what they all say we eat our own is that all sales I don't know all seals a lot of seals I can't speak that way I know a few seals is it just the hyper-competitive

nature it's not people that get involved yeah it's like you know we have this this uh this this Macho stigma that you know like you know we're we're the best of the best we're [ __ ] we're we're the best [ __ ] in the world and and I I beg to differ you know like people go like I've had so many people in order like the news oh my God they contact me all they want me so bad because there's been some things that came up you know the Navy SEAL Community um this guy

died this kid going through training died and some Navy Seals I don't know the stories they can Google it where the [ __ ] I guess they kill somebody over in Iraq who has some information some [ __ ] so they always want to get me on so I can [ __ ] it because because they know that I was not a fan of a lot of Navy SEALs and a lot of it is to do with the lies the [ __ ] some of the leadership problems some of the character issues and I got

to see that a lot when I got out and I'm the one to say it I had a lot of problems myself when I was growing up it took a long time for me to go so I'm not judging these people I know where this [ __ ] comes from man this [ __ ] comes from [ __ ] you haven't handled so I it doesn't even bother me anymore but when I came out um in 2018 this this still from still Team Six he had and Jennifer he pissed Jennifer off so [ __ ]

bad and I was cool about it but this guy started YouTube channels saying that I was dishonorably discharged I [ __ ] was kicked out of the SEAL Teams I um I refused to fight in combat I never went to combat I mean every bit of it so the reason why in my and can't hurt me I have my write-up of my medal from Iraq and I wasn't going to put that in there but Jennifer started getting DMS from people saying do you know am I gonna I'm not even gonna name his name that's not

who I am dude and I just showed you outside about that one cat yeah I'm like a neighbor's name either but I'm not gonna name his name because how does he not know better though that's the the uh that was one of the things that people bring up that you never deployed right yep why would they say that why do you think Joe think about it man think about it see like this the thing about something that's easily proven exactly but guess what this guy had Black Ops literally he was he was he had like

YouTube channels dming people because people like at this time I started getting a little bigger I started getting a little more profile and he was coming out of the SEAL Teams and I'm not gonna say his name because I'm not going to try to take food out of his mouth and this is one thing I learned from all of this I had to I was so [ __ ] pissed man I was so [ __ ] pissed I didn't deploy I mean the [ __ ] lies were insane how many times did you deploy twice

one two Guam and one to Iraq and then what they don't talk about though is originally didn't deploy more is I had two heart surgeries so I was out of the [ __ ] teams for deploying for like three four years because the heart surgeries because when you get a heart so we can't go back to the point we were born with like holes right heart with a hole in my heart and the first surgery it didn't you know it didn't take so I didn't get another surgery so that took so much time having these

heart surgery so I was in um recruiting at the time so this kept me in recruiting so this even added to the whole [ __ ] this added to the whole [ __ ] so they were loving it because right now like I said I wasn't like the most famous seal within the SEAL Teams I didn't take [ __ ] man and she was [ __ ] up I caught it I called it there's there's no secret there there's no secret [ __ ] here man and and and I knew what happened when I when

I got out and this guy started doing this [ __ ] and I I knew why he was doing it because the biggest thing like he wanted to take my character and destroy it right that's all he wanted to do and so when you're in these kind of communities like this man people like oh no there's no way he was trying to do that man I wish I could get Jennifer here right now we have all the screenshots and I had to get a [ __ ] lawyer I mean this guy went so far and

then what happened was over a period of time he [ __ ] literally apologized went away [ __ ] took all this [ __ ] down I mean but he came out and but what happened was that rumor mill spread like wildfire did he have to know did he have to be told about your actual record no he knew it never I deployed with him what I deployed with him in Iraq no in Iraq he was just lying in Iraq I deployed with him in the only [ __ ] c-man you're gonna give me to

poor man say his [ __ ] name because I swear to God so I deployed with his ass that's why I put the [ __ ] write up in there so I got a medal over there in Iraq I got a medal in Iraq so I did go to war and I put it in the book Because when because Jennifer started getting all this [ __ ] and she goes you got to put that [ __ ] award in there because this [ __ ] is just lying his ass off I didn't go to Ranger

school all this [ __ ] so I put the Ranger school everything he said I put in can't hurt me because he was just literally lying trying to literally ruin who I was because I'm the world's toughest man it doesn't sit right with some [ __ ] Alpha [ __ ] dude and these [ __ ] do some of them and you don't know unless you've been in the fraternity like this and they should benefit turn like this you don't [ __ ] know and I don't [ __ ] care about them there's some I

have some great friends in there but anyway the reason this guy actually helped me out so when I came out there's a few guys and that came after me in the SEAL Teams trying to make sure that I [ __ ] wasn't going to be who I am and they still talk their [ __ ] lies lies so many [ __ ] lies dude and what's great about is my proof isn't can't hurt me so everything they say my proof isn't and that's why it's designed that way for the Liars but this guy came out

and what I do is I study them so Jennifer guy lawyer I'm about to sue the [ __ ] out of this [ __ ] guy man like I had all this defamation I mean it was [ __ ] a thick I was gonna sue the [ __ ] out of him and every night I [ __ ] woke up I was like man I started thinking about myself and I was a piece of [ __ ] but I had no character and I had no pride no dignity that's because only people that do [

__ ] like that you're not a man right you know [ __ ] man dude like I started thinking about what kind of [ __ ] you are man how you must have so many [ __ ] demons in your life that you spend this kind of time just trying to take another just trying to take another man and not it'd be different if it was truth behind it right lies [ __ ] lies yeah just because we didn't get along [ __ ] it don't mean I wasn't who I am we didn't get law

[ __ ] because I [ __ ] I'm like a lie detector because I'm so [ __ ] honest with myself I had such a hard time in my life that I [ __ ] so forthright when you get even near me because I [ __ ] you know my [ __ ] is real it's [ __ ] real as [ __ ] it makes you feel bad if you got something going on in your [ __ ] like my [ __ ] mouth you know my [ __ ] is [ __ ] real yeah

I may not deployed as many times as you [ __ ] because my heart issues and the other issues that I won't talk about because the [ __ ] news wants me to [ __ ] talk about this [ __ ] so bad they want to take some Stills down so bad I ain't no [ __ ] like that whichever happened to still teams with me it happened to SEAL Teams that's why I don't [ __ ] mention the names but I saw these little [ __ ] come out here it was in the fraternity

it happened in the fraternity leave it there don't be a [ __ ] [ __ ] come out here [ __ ] spreading lies about me [ __ ] but I studied all these little [ __ ] who try to come out and ruin my life studied all of them that man what you must be going through is [ __ ] evil I even took a step further I had to mature myself because I was so [ __ ] mad and I looked at his family this guy who was talking this [ __ ] I'm

gonna say his name so bad but I never will because that's the [ __ ] [ __ ] move on my part you could take food out of this [ __ ] his family's mouth you're gonna have this guy in a courthouse if you have him in the courtroom spending money on lawyers yeah I [ __ ] just [ __ ] dropped it so I'm good I said who the [ __ ] I am I said you can wake up every [ __ ] morning being the [ __ ] that you are but I'm not

gonna [ __ ] take money out of your pocket money out of your mouth or out of your [ __ ] kiss kiss mouth and this kid this guy wound up apologizing to he didn't apologize to me what happened was he got on and I don't want to go too deep because it will figure it out but um he ended up basically saying he's he had a [ __ ] he just wasn't he wasn't right in his head he was he was you know he wasn't good and I can tell he wasn't good because he

was literally deeming people and I wish I had Jennifer in her mouth so she can show the DMs he was demon people and talking all this [ __ ] and then he would delete it and this guy how how so so so Jennifer found it and so because this guy DM Jennifer it was like um hey can you do you know this guy and I was like yeah I know him and then Jeff was like hey we gotta [ __ ] shut this [ __ ] down but he was dming several people just saying that

I was just discharged I was kicked out of the SEAL Teams I refused to go to combat um he just went on and on and on and so this guy was taking screenshots of what of what this guy was saying and sending them to us and so at this time now we have a lawyer and so we're getting all this [ __ ] dude and then he had a YouTube site set up that he took down just trying to literally ruin who I was and I looked at all this [ __ ] and I studied

him and I was like man you got and what came out later on was he did have some demons he does have some Demons of course he does serious demons how insane it is that the guy deployed with you still Team Six and these [ __ ] are supposed to be bass [ __ ] see this is this is some of the issues I had when I was in is that when you work so hard man I put these [ __ ] I could talk about last time I was on this [ __ ] [

__ ] on a pedestal half the reason I ran on broken legs half the reason why I [ __ ] became who I became was because of the the image these guys had on me I was so impressed with the books and the [ __ ] in the in the people that they were I was like my God man I gotta be a [ __ ] God I gotta be a god mentally they [ __ ] get in here and once I got in I discovered something different I'm not saying that I'm not saying everybody

I'm not I don't know everybody in the steel teams but I had a problem with the fact that a lot of people lived this this [ __ ] like a lot of the civilians like oh my God the seals are this the seals are that you were able to run bad water 135 because you're a Navy SEAL and because they like no [ __ ] that ain't why and I always knew the [ __ ] and I had issues with it man I had issue with this I had a [ __ ] I had issue

with it a lot of people didn't like that and then I went on to going recruiting for a little bit and then the heart surgeries happened so the more I was in recruiting the more I was that should happen they just started slowly building up lies slowly building up lives and I came out to I was I told Jennifer I and I knew it I said stand by standby is coming whenever you're a person that gets what other people think is attention that they think they deserve sir that's when things get weird oh yeah that's

why they bring those [ __ ] deployments because they think oh my God you didn't employ as much as me you deploy as much as me he wonders he's not known for being for for deploying this [ __ ] yeah [ __ ] don't care yeah I have a combat deployment and I deployed another time that we were supposed to it's right during 9 11. we're supposed to go and they [ __ ] house over in Guam we were all pissed off didn't work out that way but I got over there and what's funny about

it this is this is what makes me laugh so much there's a lot of Navy suits who never deployed every combat ever ever and it makes me laugh because [ __ ] want to act like one combat deployment where I fought for my [ __ ] country is [ __ ] think about that far from my [ __ ] country did my [ __ ] sorry it worked out the way it worked out and that's that's a that's not enough I think part of the problem with some of those guys is when guys are seriously

Alpha and they think they go above and beyond and they push harder than anybody and then they meet you and you're the guy that's getting up at 3 30 in the morning yelling at them while you're running like I know you're sleeping I know you're still in bed [ __ ] I'm out here running 10 miles before you eat breakfast that's half the reason I did it yeah that's half the reason my first going to [ __ ] Jalisco's and [ __ ] getting waffle breakfast and [ __ ] bacon and eggs and [ __

] not bothered me I said [ __ ] I got my family everybody think I'm so [ __ ] stud and you always gotta [ __ ] lift some weights y'all don't want to [ __ ] like I said I was in charge of pt and they're like no this ain't Buzz Goggins like man you got a lot of [ __ ] food this ain't everybody I don't know every seal I'll never see it but you want to run your [ __ ] mouth about me and talk your little [ __ ] I got my

secrets too and I won't say names because only your [ __ ] does that so keep on running your [ __ ] mouths I know all you [ __ ] so you start taking over PT yeah I was so when I got back so I went on my first deployment and when I came back off my first deployment I begged put seven shits in seven chits it's like a request [ __ ] to go to Ranger school [ __ ] don't request to go to Ranger school I wanted to go to Rangers as a seal

you went through buds or whatever the [ __ ] you don't want to go to another course to get your ass kicked I did I did so it's raining School came back honor man I was the enlisted owner at Ranger school but they say I'm a bad operator they also say I'm a bad operator but guess what they have my black ass when I was [ __ ] in Iraq I was started it was called PSD okay so you're like a bodyguard I'm a bad operator Joe but guess where I was I was the lead

Navigator so I'm the eyes so everything we did was in the car it was my job to make sure that whole [ __ ] platoon was safe okay you're not gonna put a dumb bad operator up there it was [ __ ] not good it's my job to make sure I called all the outs caught all the trouble coming had to get us there safe we had to [ __ ] guy was going for the prime minister's job who we're a garden and they had a bad operator what they want to call me they want

to see his little [ __ ] rumors I was the guy who led it and it was so good I did such a good job that there was two of us because the job is very stressful being a primary Navigator stressful so they have a primary and a secondary so some days I would do some days no God would do it I was doing such a good job Joe that they didn't want the other guy to do it so I became the only guy navigating us through [ __ ] Iraq all right and our guy

didn't live in the green zone the green zone a safe place our guy lived in the red zone so we had to go out in the Red Zone every day get this [ __ ] guy bring him back in no there was no shoot him up because this one one rumor that was out there that came out from this guy was I froze I froze in a firefight it's kind of funny how you can freeze in a firefight when our platoon was never in one so it's just just [ __ ] man but I know

where it comes from I know where it comes from crabs in a bucket I know where it comes from my friend it's just crabs in a bucket sorry sorry I became so successful guys that's what it is people don't like it when you did the same thing they did you come from the same fraternity but you get exorbitant amounts of attention and success oh yeah and instead of looking at that and going wow look what he did that's amazing I wish I did that or maybe I could do more or he's inspiring other people and

that's great you know what though I will say this there's a there's a lot of them that do say that that's great there's a lot of them that do say this I have this guy named Hawk you know that that email I sent to you a while ago about this guy who wrote that email about the SEAL Teams and I shared it with you about he's talking about like only 13 of you actually it's like anyway I see this email yeah I remember so anyway he's a guy that sent that email Hawk he's like my

best friend so he uh bad [ __ ] when he when he got out of the still teams he wrote this email and sent out to like every Navy SEAL it was like 87 of you [ __ ] he said every 87 of you [ __ ] you know are are living off of one week and when he was talking about was hell week like that one week in hell week is all they're living off of because they're not living it now and he made these shirts called the 13 shirts and the other 13 guys

actually getting after it I'm gonna [ __ ] sent me two of them all right he sent me two of them so yeah they're right I wish I could deployed more and blah blah blah whatever and whatever man but I was I was a [ __ ] good seal and a [ __ ] good teammate and some guys didn't like me and in the fraternity we [ __ ] had it out and there's a time somebody [ __ ] did some [ __ ] but it's what it is man you ever heard uh when people

talk about some Union work one of the things that happens when you're in some unions is like if you're working too hard someone will come along go hey David slow the [ __ ] down true statement you're moving too many packages you're doing too much of this dude too much of that you're setting the standard too high and you're [ __ ] enough for everybody else and so you'll have people that will sabotage someone just because that person wants to work hard oh I see it but it made me grow it made me grow and

I'm glad I didn't put a case on that guy and I'm glad I got a chance to study him and it is what it is man it is what it is and this is one part that I try to tell people and teach them if you're trying to go to that uncommon amongst the uncommon place it's a lonely [ __ ] up there man it's lonely I'm not saying I'm better than every [ __ ] body I'm not saying that and once again I'm not speaking for every seal I'm not but I just didn't I

didn't try to be what they were what you're just saying is just a fact it's just a fact it's just a fact and there there's people that are willing to go very far and then there's people that are willing to go far further than that that's it and when you're a person who prides yourself on your ability to go very far and then someone is willing to go far farther than you you have to decide do I want to look at that as the new standard do you want to judge myself do I want to

admire him yeah or do I want to try to take him down because I feel bad because I can't do what he does or I haven't done what he does or what he does makes me look bad because I like to think I'm a hard worker right I could think I'm disciplining hard and then I see this [ __ ] dude out there that just making me look soft right and so instead of just going look at them man [ __ ] yeah right instead of a smart person will look at that person as fuel

but you have to make your own decisions too because right you do requires a dedicated that will eliminate a lot of things from your life that some people enjoy and think are important dude and also when you when I took the road because I knew what I was doing when you when you take that road and you just don't want to just fit in it's a lonely road it's a lonely road and you get a lot of haters man like I told people all the time man if I can walk on water [ __ ]

should say because I couldn't swim and this is a true statement I used to get so mad like I said about this [ __ ] [ __ ] man but I sat back one day I was like you know what all these people are hating on me man like I have a guy who's trying to who's trying to write a book saying that I was telling people and he's a famous author like I'll never drop names dude I'm not trying to hurt your business but you're funny these people are funny keep on talking your [

__ ] I will absorb it and make a mixtape out of your [ __ ] ass like I do he tried to tell he was going to write a book that I was telling people to run into your kidneys got [ __ ] up that my mentality of running is is I was telling people I was telling people to run into your kidneys it got [ __ ] up to run until you get robbed up run until you get wrapped up that's he was gonna he's gonna write a book and the premise was the way

I think compared the way he thinks I never told a [ __ ] in my life I tell you to do better and go as far as you can I don't tell you to go until you [ __ ] kill yourself until you get robbed though but we'll tell you this Joe you will never never in life meet a hater do them better than you that's a fact ever so when I [ __ ] realize that and Jennifer gets so mad at the lies she hears and this and that because it comes all through this

spew it yeah I told Jennifer that [ __ ] man stop yeah [ __ ] calm down bro don't stop sending me that [ __ ] 100 factual there's we're talking about in the bathroom earlier I was like you got amount of bandwidth in your mind yep whatever that those units are let's call it a hundred hundred of those things in your mind the moment you start entertaining haters you start reading comments you're stealing your bandwidth 100 you could apply to your loved ones that you could apply to the thing that you love to do

that you could apply to making your life better you're stealing from yourself when you pay attention now guys talking about man clearing that space out yeah and that space allows you to make more room for what's important in your life yeah if your mind's still cluttered man you can't do [ __ ] there's also a thing about you being a public person being a public person now you have access to way more haters than you yeah the average person knows a few haters maybe if you're a good looking woman and you got some [ __

] in the office like talk [ __ ] about you or if you're a guy who's like you know getting after it early and being disciplined and you you make people intimidated by your ambition right you're gonna have some haters you're gonna be people lying about you there's gonna be but you have no idea what it's like to be a public person like yourself and the kind of haters that you must experience because if you paid attention to them all day long you would have no time for anything else no I never get in 2013

when I was first you know Jennifer knows about this [ __ ] I cussed everybody we had this [ __ ] round table and it was like man you have such a great story you need to tell it you need to get on social media and blah blah blah I cussed everybody out [ __ ] you I'm not [ __ ] going on that [ __ ] [ __ ] that's a bunch of [ __ ] [ __ ] lying it's the devil and the second I [ __ ] got on that [ __ ]

dude it is a [ __ ] devil Instagram and social media man I had this [ __ ] kid man who [ __ ] literally the reason I talk about haters so much is this little boy his parents reached out to me and he was getting so much hate at school and we get so many emails I can't check them all and but I get to him but later on much like two or three months later so this guy wrote us and this kid was having a hard time with bullies and when I got to

his email I got to it called his family up said hey what's going on you know it's David Gaga because they were all happy to hear it he had killed himself so like I in the back of my [ __ ] mind and well it hurt me the most wasn't I read the [ __ ] email [ __ ] I get my [ __ ] together I wasn't gonna bring this [ __ ] up yeah I I read the email and they said he can you know you can help our son you know our son

really admires you and that's why I um I'm so I'm I'm very vocal for a lot of reasons but I have to be strong because a lot of people aren't so you know that's why I don't cower from [ __ ] you know at all you want to [ __ ] you know I've I'll take on whatever whatever challenge is in front of me I take it on because a lot of people don't have that that curves and it's hard to be brave it's [ __ ] hard to speak up for what you believe in

and they they wrote this great email to me and they want me to talk to their son his son was a big follower of mine and he uh so I called he's like yeah and it was a silent a very silent um pause and they told what happened and um he hung himself and I was like it was [ __ ] up so you know that's what another reason I hate I hate being a public figure because it's not a public figure that I am like it's funny um I hang around some people who are

real public figures you know like celebrities and I have people coming to me first like some type of famous [ __ ] and people come to me first and and they want to share their story and their life with me about how they changed and that's a massive responsibility that people understand like um they come to you and they share the demons that they've gone through in the hard [ __ ] the hardships that they've gone through and um and they say you and your book and and what you've done in your social media page

that's why I make sure I want to go at people so hard yo sometimes man for [ __ ] talking their [ __ ] to me man and lying and [ __ ] I make sure that my social media only has like that's let's [ __ ] get it today that's [ __ ] that's [ __ ] good they go man why don't you follow anybody man I'm not into that [ __ ] dude I I want you [ __ ] to understand dude I'm your biggest [ __ ] for for you who don't who

aren't bitching and wanting to complaining I'm your biggest [ __ ] cheerleader I want to see you do good I want to see you do great and a lot of that [ __ ] comes from that [ __ ] email from that kid who killed himself now I got to it like two or three months too late and that [ __ ] [ __ ] every day I [ __ ] wake up I'm like [ __ ] man [ __ ] I gotta be honest I gotta be right I gotta be better and that's that's

when you know that when you're trying to do your best your life sucks and people don't get that when you're trying to have the best character when you try not to [ __ ] lie and you're trying not to [ __ ] put people down and you're trying to live you're trying to set the standard when you're trying to be the standard and that's there it is out you know there's so much going wrong and going off in this world that if people can focus on themselves being better versus throwing hate and [ __ ]

all this [ __ ] that happens out there and people talking [ __ ] around them I won't miss no [ __ ] names I'm trying to hurt you man but I'm trying to be the standard and sometimes life is just not fun when you're like can't do that can't say that got watched out for that yeah I I gotta wake up today I gotta I gotta grind because there may be a [ __ ] out there that sees me in their [ __ ] car that says all right I'm gonna go home and be

better today so all these things in my [ __ ] mind every [ __ ] day I wake up every [ __ ] day and I you know so you know I try to get to emails it's me and Jennifer but yeah you know people [ __ ] it's crazy man people come to me and tell me their stories man this [ __ ] very humbling that this kid that came from [ __ ] nothing is now helping people who you know like you know this is funny and people call me crazy a lot man

you're so [ __ ] crazy about what you do now look at him straight in the honest and man I'm not crazy I'm just not you that's not who you are who you want to be I have a responsibility man and I gotta [ __ ] take that seriously well people like to look at people that are pushing further than them and harder than them like there's something wrong with you yep you must be crazy I'd be crazy gotta be crazy I love crazy though my favorite people are crazy yeah you know but I see

that I don't look at that as a negative no I look at it as a strength it is I I see a person who's willing to go to the Dark Matter place or go oh I like that oh yeah I like that but you went there during silver October man you right there you went there so how'd that feel man when you [ __ ] were going into those Journeys into those compartments well what I like about it is that you had to do it every day you know and so I just every day would

you know know it was coming okay all right here we go time to get going and every day just get after it in some crazy way one of my favorite things is the thing that I hate the most it's air dine Sprints I do those Tabata sprints on the air dime machine oh the [ __ ] Echo Bike yeah the Echo Bike from Rogue 20 seconds Sprints 10 second rest 22 cycles of eight so eight rounds of that and then I'll do another one and another one another one I was doing an hour at that

that's [ __ ] brutal bro so hard but it would but when it was done I'm standing in a puddle I'm completely drenched right but that feeling of getting through this because the last Cycles when you're doing like and you look like because the Rogue bike will show you like you've done three which means you have to you have to do five more of these Sprints and that 10 seconds is just non-existent you're like and then Tech is like right it's it's so quick and then you're back at it again those last ones are so

hard but when you get through it the rest of the day is so much better that's like fight training man because the month of November all I've been doing is drinking really oh man I've been working out still working out but we're doing a lot of drinking and I'm like this I gotta stop so I woke up today because today's December 1st I'm like I'm not drinking this month I'll have a glass of wine and Christmas or something like that right but this month I'm back to the Grind are you because yeah yeah because I

enjoyed October to suck when it's over it's life is better well you know you just gotta get through the suck that's right and then life is better but the thing that gets me is the level of I don't give a [ __ ] and anxiety the less the the lack of anxiety that comes after you work out every day is so worth the workout you're so calm so calm the only thing that changes your [ __ ] DNA is discipline yes discipline is the only thing that changes your DNA man this is the only thing

only a female you could be [ __ ] so [ __ ] up and I realized that and I was like man the only thing that changed my DNA is discipline sort of thing I've Incorporated a new thing that I was telling you where I get up first thing in the morning I get in the cold plunge because I was doing the cold plunge after I did the sauna and it's a little easier because the sauna sucks right but you know when not 20 minutes is up or 25 minutes is up and then you get

in that cold the cold sucks but it doesn't suck as much as when you're cold and then you get in the cold so when I wake up in the morning I don't dress warm I wear my [ __ ] underwear and I go outside and it's 40 degrees this morning and I walk out and I lift the lid on that marazzo cold plunge and I see the [ __ ] ice floating up in there and every day I climb in that's brutal and I just get in there for three minutes in the morning and then

I work out that's [ __ ] well because I read this thing um I'll send it to you Jamie but I read this thing where uh they've been doing studies on what happens to people Angie huberman and I actually discussed this and huberman's a very interesting guy but um it's about the benefits of cold plunge before you actually work out really yeah because there's a benefit after you work out in terms of reduction of inflammation but what they're saying is you shouldn't do it right after you lift weights got it because then muscles yeah it

actually it decreases the hypertrophy so it you don't gain as much mass or getting as much strength but there's some benefit to doing it before you work out I think there's a link involved in that too so anyway this is a guy uh who's talking about prostate specific antigen blood test came back uh very high and everyone said that he had to get a biopsy and he said the story I've heard about old older men getting biopsies in prostatectomies sounded like nightmares to him so he decided to try to manage his PSA with ketosis and

Ice baths so it worked his PSA dropped from over seven to less than one and along the way a funny thing happened to his testosterone it went through the roof to 11 40 which is crazy high he said my urologist didn't believe me he thought I must be juicing so he had my luteinizing hormones tested too sure enough 8.9 is off the charts for a fat guy in his 50s he said then I did a research and discovered a Japanese study from 1991 that showed the secret was exercising after your ice bath it's the opposite

of what everybody says to do which is exactly how I got this far in the first place he said now I'm stuck with the T levels of an oversexed 19 year old I'm not complaining damn but so this is the thing that um people are realizing now there's some extreme benefit to heavy duty so here's this extreme benefit to heavy duty cold exposure right and then you force your body to heat up and then you work out there's so you know I'm trying that now and I've only done it three days in a row how's

it working it's working it's hard but the the but part of it is just the fact that you have to do it in the morning like I'm not giving myself any mornings up so I have that's how I start my day now whereas before I was working out so the workout I eased myself into the workout get on the bike warm up jump a little rope start the Kettlebell routine do all the things you got to do but now it's just right into the suck so it's it's harder I tell you right now man the

[ __ ] code being cold water cold ice water it literally is the one thing that makes you question everything when you're going through hard training and [ __ ] like that like you know I've been through a lot of different training in the military and that cold water it definitely many dreams die while suffering that should be a t-shirt many dreams die while suffering my friends so true I talk about it man like this this [ __ ] God's getting that water and you see their [ __ ] eyes roll back and I'm like

oh yeah mini Jeans die while suffering friend yeah I was trying to talk to Jamie about it Jamie it's [ __ ] cold I'll do cold it's just like there's a level of cold I wouldn't ease myself into it I don't want to just start in the worst that might be the best way to do it Jamie yeah he's gotta jump in that [ __ ] I just couldn't go like below my knees yeah hey man once that pecker gets cold boy it's real I know yeah it's all real I go right up to the

chin I want that water right there oh that's legit right there man if it's real legit you go under Hicks and Gracie he puts a snorkel on really yeah Hixson gets in that water for a couple minutes under the water with the snorkel on he likes that [ __ ] huh six and hixson's intense [ __ ] So speaking of that who's the best ever the best ever in MMA ever in MMA it's hard to say there's a lot of candidates you know I've always said Mighty Mouse is one of my Best Bets because he

was so goddamn good and he's still so God I'm good now but now he's fighting in one FC but he was a flyweight Champion for a long time and his he was the highest level of expression of mixed martial arts ability that I'd ever seen but he's also fighting guys that are much lighter they're 125 pounds you know everyone's very quick but he was just so skillful but then there's Jon Jones Jon Jones really never lost that's the nasty [ __ ] he's a nasty [ __ ] and you know really Jon Jones [ __

] off you want to talk about a guy who just did it by talent and will Jon Jones beat Alexander Gustafson without training so he basically didn't train there's a few guys like that there's a guy named Ryan Spann who's out there right now who just [ __ ] up Dominic Reyes and Dominic Reyes was the one guy who took Jon Jones to the Limit Dominic Reyes uh went on a series of losses after that fight but he had this fight with Jon Jones and took Jon Jones to the [ __ ] limit and a

lot of people thought he won that decision but then he went on after that fight got knocked out by yam blahovich who became the light heavyweight champion got knocked out by Yuri prohaska and then just got lit up by Ryan span and Ryan span is this guy who's always been Ultra Ultra talented right but just was always afraid of running out of gas didn't train didn't really put in camps just had a lot of ability and a lot of technique right and his last fight he fought Dominic Reyes and he put in a full training

camp for the first time ever and just [ __ ] Dominic Reyes up just lit him up like a Christmas tree in the first round and put them away so you're talking about a guy who beat you know many people's eyes should have won a decision against Jon Jones right and then Ryan's parent just takes him out in the first round easy quick because he finally worked hard well there's something about that full training camp man yes there's something about going out no phone yes up in the [ __ ] mountains away from civilization yeah

away from the bacon and eggs the silk sheets the [ __ ] five-star Resorts the [ __ ] everybody knowing you sign autographs and [ __ ] Dark Matter dude Dark Matter like a [ __ ] the further you [ __ ] drive out of your house and start going up in that [ __ ] Mountain Man you start to kick that [ __ ] mind starts to click over man you get a full Camp up in some [ __ ] Dark Matter Place yep it's [ __ ] over bro there's a reason why so

many guys would go up to Big Bear yeah that's where Gennady Golovkin used to go up there can't breathe in that moment at least go to the Poconos yes Ali or um Tyson rather would go to the Catskills a lot of guys would do that a lot of evil up in them [ __ ] mountains boring Catskills it's also this nature oh yeah because like nature doesn't give a [ __ ] about you and there's something that you realize when you're running a mountain and you know you see eagles flying nobody gives a [ __

] about you no one there's no press no one's watching that's a beautiful thing man that's when you really know who you are yeah when you get up there there's no like the coach is probably back a little bit and you got your little run by yourself and [ __ ] you figure out a lot you figure out a lot man you start to figure out a lot of [ __ ] problems up there by yourself yeah so this is I don't to answer your question I don't think there is a greatest ever because there's

different weight classes you're right Habib definitely is in the conversation he's the only only like a really Elite guy to retire undefeated that's a nasty [ __ ] oh he was so good dude dude something about looking at that [ __ ] like I love these guys who you can look in their eyes you can tell somebody right heart is now you can tell something's [ __ ] right right that's in a good way something right the way when he fought Conor McGregor and they were booing him at the weigh-ins and he goes I'm gonna

smash your boy you should play that interview play that interview because when I'm talking to him and he they're all booing and she's like they're all Conor McGregor fans they flew in from Ireland I mean this is a big fight and he's like I'm gonna smash your boy alhamdulillah I'm gonna smash your boy look at them booing him what does this to you to do so loud there that's why I'm screaming it's so loud God gave me everything I know you got this they don't like this alhamdulillah tomorrow night I'm gonna smash your boy guys

I'm gonna smash your boy and I wanna say thank you all Irish fans you know all planes around the world because of you guys this fight is happened thank you guys and tomorrow night inshallah and still thank you sir good luck to you the champion ladies and gentlemen thank you all I'm gonna smash your boy Jesus and that's what he did he was on top of them pounding them going let's talk now because Connor you were saying it during the fight play that play that he's on top of the face let's talk let's talk now

beating the [ __ ] out of them that's the next level now let's talk now and Connor was like look at this thank you good talking let's talk now let's talk now let's talk let's talk now oh my God [Music] I'm saying it's only business and khabib says you tired let's talk Jesus dude he brought that [ __ ] to another level man yeah well he used that as fuel he took no [ __ ] mental Aid stations in that train he can't no no no he was a bad [ __ ] and then when

his father died he told his mother he was gonna fight one more time and that's it and so he's in his prime still right now he's in his physical prime and he's like so heal his mom he's done he's not coming back you don't think well his Protege is Islam makachev who's now the new UFC lightweight champion and Islam is as good as him in that same realm wow I mean he remains to be seen whether or not Islam can have a Reign the way he did but he just beat Charles Oliveira was one of

the best ever and he just ran through him to win the title that's a bad dude too man that was a bad [ __ ] and Oliveira is an interesting case too because Oliveira used to be kind of a quitter yeah I know he kind of fell apart in many fights early in his career and then he had the birth of his daughter and then changed his [ __ ] entire life changed the way he fought changed his mentality changed his his discipline and his focus and then became this [ __ ] who just dominating

everybody Oliveira I believe he's 33. see find out what that's accurate so there's some there's some old Fighters right now who are still kicking ass yes Jan bohovich um uh Glover Tashara just lost the light heavyweight title at 42. he won it at 42 and then lost it to Yuri prohovska in a very very close fight yeah he's 33. Oliveira's three you know what's funny about that man but I see these older guys who are still [ __ ] grinding hard people asked about father time yeah father time doesn't get you man his father fatigue

his father fatigue man like I see these guys who have been in sports for a long time fighting the basketball sport whatever it is yeah and it's that grind it's that every day waking up grind it's not it's not father time man it's the fact that you know I gotta go do it again yeah I gotta do it again so a lot of these guys are fighting father fatigue and they're doing a good job of doing it I think there's many factors there's father fatigue there's father enthusiasm that's right but then there's also injuries there's

so many of these guys are fighting with [ __ ] up backs and [ __ ] up knees and [ __ ] up elbows and [ __ ] up hands and you don't know that when you see them because they look jacked they look ripped right in their head they know I got to be careful if I move to the side on my right side because my knees [ __ ] I know all about that I got to be careful if I get kicked in the legs because this is [ __ ] I got real

[ __ ] yeah and there's a lot of guys that also been they've taking too many shots and they can't take a punch anymore right that happens to guys and then you see they get dinged once and they get wobbly where so what the [ __ ] happens with that man I started seeing guys who [ __ ] been getting hit a lot yeah they can't take a hit anymore man like they'll [ __ ] go out quick there's a lot of speculation and um one of the things they say is that they believe that

at certain point in time your brain tries to protect you from the punishment and just shut off like that your your body realizes like this dude is too strong mentally he's too tough and he'll just absorb shots and is just ruining our brain so when you get hit your brain is like check please wow and your brain will shut off and then the other that's a optimistic perspective got it the other less Optimist Mystic perspective is that you're destroying your mind and that your mind is simply not resilient anymore and you can't take a shot

anymore because you've damaged all the connective tissue that's holding the [ __ ] brain in place and you've also created so much CTE and so much swelling and some of that one shot can take you out there's also on top of that one of the big problems with MMA is the weight cutting so the weight cutting was which what everybody does they drain themselves 24 hours before the fight weigh in say oh he weighs 170 pounds like guys like Camaro Usman who's giant for 170. he's 170 for like 20 minutes how much does he weigh

like walking around 200 pounds 200 pounds easy so does he come back in the ring about 190 200 he's in the 190s for sure yeah lean as [ __ ] shredded [ __ ] but dehydrated like hell to make 170. there's he's not ever really 170. wow he's 170 bill again totally sucked up you mean also cramping you know it's terrible to do that 24 hours before you have a cage fight is so crazy it's [ __ ] up so those take a toll so if you're 35 37 39 all these guys that have been

doing that their whole life every time you cut that weight it takes a little chip off the old block every time every time it takes it's another chop into the tree trunk yeah it just weakens your foundation and it's just little minor things every training camp you go through you know can you do another one you know your back is [ __ ] up you get out of bed like this like ah ever it's like little micro injuries that are constantly piling up you know we're talking about Hicks and Gracie earlier Hickson can't really even

roll hard anymore he's in the 60s and he's got these injuries all over his back it's all [ __ ] up it's like all those years of Jiu Jitsu that greasy shit's no joke though that [ __ ] that family they change the world the world this little 160 pound [ __ ] man this little [ __ ] can't even see him under some of these fat [ __ ] this [ __ ] fingers finger [ __ ] locking you out man I'm gonna forget you the pinky lock bro he's like where is he tapping

from why is he tapping I can't even see you know Gracie got my [ __ ] a pinky lot this [ __ ] was nasty dude they taught the world Jiu Jitsu the world didn't know Jiu Jitsu is the only martial art that people had ever experienced that did what was advertised right and what was advertised was that a small skillful person could be the larger stronger opponent who didn't know the techniques well he proved it he proved it I'm afraid Gracie proved it in the UFC and he changed martial arts forever and that family's

probably the most consequential the most important significant family in the history of martial arts the Gracie family changed martial arts worldwide it's funny man but you know there's so many people out here who uh who are very successful and they talk about I mean Super money great family artistic they talk about that they're missing something that there's something in life that they're missing and they and they talk to me about that [ __ ] and I Mr Graces it seemed like they they had this it went about money it went about nothing man they're like

grass roots [ __ ] and that's what I always tell people that they're missing is that they're missing that desire like those guys had a passion and a [ __ ] just obsessed that that's the word yeah Obsession Obsession yeah and I guarantee man those [ __ ] don't have those conversations I feel like I'm missing something right they're not they're not missing [ __ ] dude no no they they they got it figured out man well Hixson in particular because Hixson was hoyce's older brother who was everybody says is the greatest of all time

really from that era yeah he was there was never been a time other than today there's a time right now with Gordon Ryan which is very rare it's very rare where someone comes along and everybody says this is the baddest [ __ ] alive no if-ans or questions about and back then when Hixson was in his prime right you ask any black belt anywhere in the world though like hixson's the man hixson's the man and he was a Yogi he got all this crazy breath work that he would do he figured out the physical as

well as the mental far beyond where everybody else is willing to travel and there's a great documentary people are interested in Hicks and Gracie called choke hixson's been on the podcast a couple of times there's a great documentary called choke that followed him when he was in his prime in the 1990s competing in Japan and one of the things he does in that documentary he gets in a frozen glacial River and he just sits down he's meditating In this River up to his neck of this [ __ ] 30 degree water just washing over him

he's just beyond Talent bro he's like thank you my Lord thank you my Lord and he's just like just taking it all in it's beyond Talent that's bad there's there's so much involved there's Talent there's discipline there's the Mind focus and there's also the Brilliance of his ability to interpret and understand technique right it was so many things that's badass and this is the case with Gordon Ryan who's arguably the greatest of all time and Gordon is a lot bigger than everybody that was you know kicks and was at his prime is about 200 pounds

Gordon's like 240. and you know Gordon is utilizing modern training methods and 365 days a year trains doesn't take any days off this is Hixson in the the Frozen glacial River that's his brother hoyler who's also one of the greats I mean that's that Gracie family man never been a family life no never been a family like in martial arts you just have like never will be Army of killers that's it yeah I mean oh there's look at him yep that's what he likes to do is to get under that water and he does that

with a cold plunge too no it's it was crazy that so many people would never understand that kind of discipline or that kind of that kind of human being that wants to go to the stratosphere yeah they'll never they'll always be misunderstood man always you came and that's why a lot of times when I talk to people I can't I can't have a conversation with a lot of people man because you're gonna walk away like why do you do it David right why don't you just take a break you deserve a break David take a

nap that's it did you ever have a piece of pie why don't you put your feet up yeah just a little you think one day you'll get fat that's it you should let yourself get fat dude you're being funny as [ __ ] but it's the truest of all [ __ ] statements yeah dude I don't do nearly as much as you and I get it dude right I'm like you would never understand that's why we'll never talk yeah you never get it so that's why I don't have a conversation with people man those are

brutal conversations with people that like what I don't understand what your motivation is that's like what are you chasing I haven't been on a podcast where are you running from where are you running from David where are you going you know oh I get that a lot that's the one I get a lot I get that a lot and and they're joking I'm like and I don't find this [ __ ] funny like you [ __ ] that's so dumb it's dumb as [ __ ] man whenever you're someone who's that wild and that far

beyond where most people are willing to go you're gonna you're gonna run into normies well it's like Muffler is going to the circuit breaker man they just go in there and start rewiring their brain they go in and say like like that [ __ ] right there with the snorkeling [ __ ] yeah oh no man I gotta put this over here yeah this circuit needs to be there it needs to be there it totally rewiring how the whole brain works to not to not feel sorry for yourself to ignore pain to ignore discomfort to

push your place you know to push your mind place that people don't even [ __ ] want to talk about they can't fathom and it's what you talk about with knowledge yep that's what it is this is knowledge it's understanding of those feelings that's it and the only way you understand that those feelings are rare they don't come up all the time all day long you wouldn't be able to deal with them all right so most people don't know what to do with those feelings they're not around them enough but you're around them constantly right

Hixson was around them constantly yeah it's like get in those and then you learn about them you get a map of the territory get blueprint yeah and the second they surface when you're [ __ ] getting choked out I've seen so many I see I love watching fights man because I I see them and I start to say okay in a bad situation man and I see a couple guys getting ready to [ __ ] tap yeah and that one second decision I call it they're thinking man I gotta tap it's like and and and

and you see the hand motion like I'm about to tap and it goes somewhere else not today [ __ ] yeah because I've been here I've been here before I can last maybe just one more second in this one second may get me out of this [ __ ] and I see how the how the mind is evolving in that one moment that one quick moment I see that a million thoughts went through their [ __ ] mind and it didn't tap I'm gonna show you an example of that Brian Ortega versus Alexander volkanowski Alexander

volcanowski almost gets Tapped Out volkanovsky is the next guy to fight Islam makachev and Islam makachev is khabib's Protege that's a bad boy uh Alexander volkanovski is the 145 pound champion he's going up to 155 to try to fight makichev and win the title of it that way so he fights this guy Brian Ortega who is a student of uh Huron and Hannah Gracie got it so he's an elite Black Belt and he gets Brian Ortega gets volkanovsky in this Guillotine choke a mounted Guillotine choke which is the nastiest [ __ ] ever and this

guy is a [ __ ] strangulation expert and vulcanovsky is stuck here's some volume give me some volume here you might go to sleep yours is mine he got out see and he got out he was so close you hear Paul felder's hand he might go to sleep [Applause] so he almost catches him here now in the darts and volganovski winds up on top and when he gets on top he just starts Hamming up hammering them I mean this fight is one of the best examples you want to watch this fight you want to talk

about Will and Warrior spirit this is one of the best fights ever for both guys because Ortega like going into the fourth round you're like how is this [ __ ] surviving and then he comes out in the fifth round comes guns blazing see both these guys just drain the [ __ ] gas tank in this fight it was an amazing amazing amazing fight now what he should have did after that he should have gone home and wrote that [ __ ] out because in that moment if he could even think about it the knowledge

he gained in that moment Priceless where what was happening when you almost tapped what was and I'm not talking about this surface conversation that's beautiful to me I I study that [ __ ] so much you were in a horrible situation I know you were like I got a tap I got a tap I got tap but if you break that down really break it down to the smallest molecule possible your mind went through so many things that allowed you to not tap you gotta study that man that right there is so much that's that's

beautiful yeah that's that's Beauty right there at work yeah at work it is because for that man I mean volkanovsky he walked out of there with his [ __ ] belt with the victory the cheers the Roars The Crowd Goes back home he [ __ ] did it it's amazing but he I see he got to the door of death see it's that one second decision that one second decision I talk about in this [ __ ] right here you get there and you want to quit and you don't yeah and you're not [ __

] getting through it man well that's the thing is like your book can give people if even if they don't get a map of the territory they're getting directions right you want to go to I-95 that's right go about 10 miles down right when you see Woodland Hills Road take a right you're giving them you might not be giving them a map because I think the map has to be acquired personally 100 but you're giving them Direction that's it you're saying this is how I got through this is how I developed my map people want

to hand it to me I can't hand it to you you can't but you can give them something oh you're not when I texted you I was in the middle of the book I was like I could run through a [ __ ] wall right now because that's what it feels like I love that there's something about the way you describe things and the way you're so honest and so personal about it especially the audio version of it and then when you do the podcast so the way the audio the audio is a special treat

because it's the book and then with each individual chapter you have a small podcast where you and your co-writer break down what what it was like for you and what was happening right and and what what you were feeling and what you and it allows you to do it in an unscripted way so you could really and you're so honest about it it just it just gives you an understanding of that you this discomfort is unavoidable right when they're trying to avoid discomfort just brings you more discomfort right and you don't realize it it just

brings you this long-term dull discomfort as opposed to the Searing pain of like mid-struggle discomfort right which is what everybody's trying to avoid everybody you're still gonna get discomfort you're just gonna get this I could have Shoulda would have been discomfort which is maybe worse you're right it might be worse it just makes it a little easier that's all that's all the repetitions do man it's not it doesn't take away the pain don't take with the suffering no you just state it you know it you know how it feels yeah you know when to breathe

when not to breathe you know all these different things you've been there you visited you've you you've lived there for a long period of time and that's why I like this book so much is because Ken hurt me was like a bachelor's degree it was like the surface level of David Goggins and some things that can help you out this to me is a master's degree this book right here takes you to another level of of the mind and how you think and that's what I say this ain't no [ __ ] self-help book this

is what the [ __ ] are you doing with your life book yeah and that's why that's so important what are you doing with your life man why are you sitting around why are you waiting for [ __ ] to happen it could happen like that why are you feeling sorry for yourself why are you waiting for that [ __ ] apology that's never going to [ __ ] come people sit around waiting and waiting and waiting and waiting and blaming and blaming and then waiting with a handout yeah covet happened and everybody's hands out

now hands out and you see how it changed sort of the tone of the country it did and it made people feel entitled like someone deserved they deserve something yep that's right you don't deserve [ __ ] it was their [ __ ] and that's the one thing that I knew and that's the most part if they give you [ __ ] you're going to be even more miserable oh oh that's a true statement isn't it a true statement is it true State everybody wants the government to come along and help them that's true statement

someone to come along and give you things these I should get things you should redistribute wealth you're not going to be happy nope you're not you got to go get it no you're gonna always wonder well I have all this [ __ ] money why do I feel like I said I feel like I'm missing something right because you didn't go out and achieve it on your own it's like a man who inherited money that's it they're always missing something big time there's something wrong with them someone gift wrapped you some [ __ ] yeah

and now you're just a [ __ ] now you're half a man that's it you look like a man but you're like one of them Easter Bunny candy things you know those those chocolate Easter Bunnies that's it you like you try to bite into itself that's the [ __ ] them shits up in our 300 yeah well I loved them when they were solid when you got a solid oh yeah oh look at this a lot more calories a lot more snacks in that [ __ ] yeah those are solid Easter Bunny didn't want to

just just destroy us [ __ ] up your teeth [ __ ] this is a [ __ ] Hollow one yes sir yeah a lot of people are Hollow Easter Bunnies a lot of people are hollow inside too yeah but you don't have to be no this is the beautiful thing of your story is that you started out [ __ ] up and sad and couldn't do anything and you transformed yourself so people don't think like this guy's just always been hard from the cradle time like you you you you turned yourself into this which

is the real that's the that's the story that gives people hope you can truly develop other worldly discipline right it's possible to develop otherworldly mental strength well we changed everything we changed our car we changed our house sometimes we change our wife or husband we change the underwear we change everything in our lives change our hair change how we look change everything but very few of us change how we think and that's the one problem with a lot of people they're not willing to change how they think you're not going to evolve if you continue

thinking the same [ __ ] way so a lot of people have a problem with that so I'm always trying to evolve in some way I'm never wearing the same underwear every day and I always changing that [ __ ] never finished it's out right now ladies and gentlemen I can't recommend it enough it's a [ __ ] fantastic book as good if not better than can't hurt me you're the man brother appreciate you very much thank you Joe all right bye everybody [Music] [Applause] foreign