three two one [Music] new video new day we have successfully briefed executed and now we're back it's time for the debrief which many don't like I'm not gonna name names it may be me you know it it actually is I will it is very important right because what's the point of going out and and burning you know turning dinosaurs into jet noise if you're not gonna learn anything out of it and the debrief is again what separates us right what's to be able to extract it so Deuce tell me about the debrief and why it's
so important I mean the debrief is is important you know for the reasons that you just said like that's where some of the learning happens like you can go be out executing a mission and be screwing up not knowing while you're screwing up and the light the light bulb is going to turn on uh in the debrief if you will which can be on an individual basis which hey we're just doing a two ship ride and the you're the student who's upgrading advice hey you're flying a large Force employment exercise I call it red flag
or nor lightning and now you're going to get the learning um you know they're at the end with everybody else and after you've pieced together you know the entire Mission itself so that's why we debrief is to uh to get the learning so you're able to avoid mistakes in in the future so the general flow of the debrief right so you come back and you know questions on the brief maybe I should ask that question before we left like why did I yeah what are my options here yeah so so that's what we're trying to
figure out like hey I thought you briefed this like it felt like we did x y z um you know that that'd be the point where you ask that kind of question yeah so I mean we used to say plants products are brief so did you have any questions or issues anything to talk about about the plan the overall plan was there something wrong with you know what the plan was and if so why weren't you there during the planning phase but I digress valid and then products you know because we go out with lineup
cards uh Maps you know all your products everything you take to the aircraft and this is the time to go hey what could we have what did you show up in the Jet and realize hey this would have been nice to know or have written down or have a map of or something like that right yeah that's right but yeah the the you know the products for for the mission you know like maybe it's a large Force employment exercise you know so something on the mission um you know flow card if you will is off
which hopefully it wasn't catastrophic everyone but hopefully resolved there and the coordination brief but that would all be be things that you bring up and then from there now we get into actually okay you know um safety you know safety training rule violations we're gonna you know talk about was there anything that we did because we you know we talk about this you know in the earlier part of the brief we brief training rules to use 11 214 as our governing Doctrine for rules that we train by to keep us and people say well there's
no rules in combat well no but we'd like to be able to use the jet more than once and so these training rules keep us able to do that so we briefed them and usually 11 to 14 standard but we'll come back and go hey did you have any safety of flight issues or training rule violations especially for a large Force exercise because we want to bring those back to the debrief and fess up right that's right and you fight how you train too so I mean good tactics are inherently safe and if you're adhering
to those and to the training rules then you know we're not not going to lose airplanes like training rule violations are written because we've lost airplanes that's why they exist talk to me about the general flow of the debrief in from there like what are you what how are you getting those Lessons Learned out well General flow of the debrief so you have uh reconstruction yeah which will take place in in different forms which we can vignette into here in a little bit but you have reconstruction then you have analysis yeah you like that vignette
so reconstruction analysis and then you go into your lesson learned uh kind of development and then uh your overall Lessons Learned From from the day which you then present to the members of your your flight so what are you trying to do in in the Reconstruction phase like are you reliving the whole thing or is it just highlights or how are we doing that so again the standard answer is it depends so for reconstruction for uh basic fighter Maneuvers for example figuring out like hey what position were the Jets relative to each other weapons employment
did we achieve a kill yes or no uh for for each of the sets and then as you go through that and then you're able to uh paint the picture for um you know overall weaknesses for the day and what the um individual that you're flying with needs to work on you know for next time so that leads into the analysis phase as far as a large Force employment exercise reconstruction generally starts with the shot validation so starting off and you have you know the 2D picture of all the all the Jets from Blue Air
from red air where the surf start missile sites were where the targets were and then it's simply figuring out who's alive who's dead and did we kill the targets yes or no um you know and that's all reconstruction now doesn't necessarily need to go from from start to finish well it depends uh again on on the mission itself um you know and again what kind of level level is it at if it's just home station continuation training you know maybe like hey I know that uh sets two and three in my bfm flight today were
heinous so those were the ones that I actually want to look at and then we'll just you know maybe maybe save ourselves some time and not look at the rest of the sets uh from there um well you're able to do that is just really from experience and then understanding what actually happened Airborne you know so having situational awareness we'll say from that um but from there I lead I go into analysis so that mission analysis part where I really need to nug out and figure out well hey like what who is my audience and
what are we going to take away from this this entire Mission uh today what were the weak points why do we have failure why do we have losses and then um go into the details from there is the method you know dfps Lessons Learned debrief Focus points if you will is that still employed widely today yeah yeah the methodology is is still valid so what you're talking about for debris Focus points like I might even know what they are you know walking into the debrief you know what I mean so like they're not necessarily going
to present themselves during that reconstruction or analysis so once I have that that level of situational awareness which comes with experience that I can walk in and I already know of my debris Focus points are which will then Focus what I look at in the Reconstruction like hey at time x y z um you know blue two dies like man well we need to kind of peel back the onion uh if it will from from that time to where the trains got off the tracks and which resulted in a blue death and that's what we'll
we'll focus on it's not like we just get back and then it's like all right ready ready from the beginning play but it's structured right so you got your dfp your contributing factors and that eventually gets you to a lesson learned yeah so overall I need to know like what my debrief Focus points are for the day and then it's going to be something factual like hey like why were five of ten targets destroyed why did blue four die you know it's got to be something uh factual uh in that nature that that's measurable and
then from there we go with our different uh contributing factors which I like to list out in order as a technique with a time stamp on it at this time this happened all right and then of those contributing factors I'm then going to pick the one which is either most causal or most interesting or what I want to present to learn from from the day so you've got a little bit of latitude there but I'm going to call that my primary contributing factor now of my primary contributing factor I get into well what kind of
mistake was it so we have uh three basic kind of mistakes so I have an input error I have an output error or I have a decision error so an input error what that means is that I didn't have the information that I needed Airborne or that information may have been blocked because I was busy doing something else but either way I misperceived or I didn't have the information available Airborne an output error is more of hey I had that information available to me but just by virtue of technique or left hand right hand if
you will I didn't execute properly so it could be like a young guy in bfm you know they just don't have the experience yet for the hands so or they didn't have the the technique kind of solidified for that so that'd be an output error overall decision error is I think about hey this is my overall game plan so my overall game plan was flawed for example so or at least missing some component if you will so from there of those three now I'm going to pick my overall uh lesson learner so the way that
I go about for a lesson learned so number one fighter pilots like pictures and puppet books to help illustrate learning points for us so um the way that I can do that is I can draw the board or I can take a snippet from the tapes playback or from the icats playback if overall or I could like write down like a time then say like if we're an LFE playback hey go to time x y z then they call up that time now we're all on the same sheet of music we all have the common
mental model for what I'm talking about and now for example for a decision error which is where we live kind of big picture for Lessons Learned in logic large Force employment or on a mission as right that's generally where the learning is going to happen um overall I talked about hey here's why here's the dfp and here's why I led to failure today now here's five minutes of weapons academics if you will on my new game plan or my new edition or perhaps contingency for the game plan and here's how this new item Works five
minutes on that and now using today as an example here's how with this new contingency or difference in game plan here's how we could have won today now the coup de gras if you will is how can I take it and I can apply it to a completely different mission that wasn't today that's where you really make your money as a weapons officer or as an instructor in the debrief again getting to that learning uh there's a fighter pilot again so like you know we've been talking about this for like a handful of minutes this
process can be several hours you know for an LFE uh like the weapon School we're talking maybe it's a four to five hour process you know in total and that's even before I hand the the pens over to to the instructor for their comments dfp why did dagger one one get shot down and I think it wouldn't be an output error it would be a plan error the contributing factor would be his entire plan and the lesson learned would be send in the b2s next time that's certainly valid I had Tom Cruise yeah yeah he
does definitely busts for uh Mission planning definitely a mission playing or or complete lack of integration of OCA seed I would add Ah that's that's valid he thought there was only four aircraft on that entire boat and had no one else to help him yeah total lack of OCA integration once you extract all these Lessons Learned I mean what is the what is the etiquette in general for the wingman like a young wingman throughout this debrief should they be asking questions should they wait just like the brief and should they be arguing they should definitely
not be arguing uh yeah argumentative um young fighter pilots in the brief and debrief uh not only are they clearly violating uh rule number one don't be a douche but yeah they're definitely going to make a name for themselves as being somebody that you don't want to fly with um so a proper etiquette would be hey write down your questions hold them to the end you know there's the whole kind of presentation if you will that the flight lead our instructor needs to get through which might totally answer your question so again it would be
redundant to to bring it up but hold your questions to the end uh for that but you know good flight lead good instructor always going to ask you know from top level down whether it be Strike Team lead or flight lead or a wingman you know that's generally the order that will take questions uh in the debrief but learning needs to occur at all all levels again from instructor flight leads all the way down to women because that's how we get better as as a force you know one of the big things that differentiates uh
United States Air Force uh Navy Marines we'll say you know us DOD overall from um you know foreign Nations is that we leave rank off in the debrief you know if you go to uh lfes and say turkey for example like they handle that very differently in that you know it's a big part of their culture for Saving Face whereas you know for us like we don't care about that in the debrief you know and there's a certain etiquette to that but um generally speaking you know rank is off in the debrief and we want
learning to occur at all levels so that mistakes aren't continually made in the future and then we can be uh you know improve upon or lethality overall as a force and and this changes too what based on what you're doing right if it's CT versus an upgrade ride but even more importantly combat because combat you don't have time to be sitting there debriefing forever you've got to change it so how does it change when you're in combat well in combat I mean you gotta you gotta focus on like hey like what did we go out
and do today like did we achieve the commander's intent or not you know I think you know like a closer support um you know kind of environment like okay we did did we have a common mental model yes or no like maybe it's me just calling Jay Zach and be like hey dude where are those bombs good did they go where you wanted them yeah okay cool like how could we we have done it in a more efficient efficient manner in down on a common mental model there there as a team you know maybe that
process is like six to nine minutes but it's still the point of still having that debrief so that you can get the learning done um and be overall more lethal odds of force in the future we talked about it in the last video of how you can set the tone with a crappy brief right you can set the tone as a wingman when you don't know anything you can set the tone as a flight lead when your plan is stupid like Tom Cruise you can set the tone in general with a bad Breeze but but
but even if you have the best sorority in the air if you come back and you're just like ah I don't have anything because there is no such thing as a perfect sorority right there's always something to learn it hasn't happened yep haven't seen one maybe it's just me but I haven't seen it so we always have something to come back to and if you can't say hey here's what we need to do better then you really just wasted your time yeah I agree with that I mean like overall like the whole like what would
you say we're trying to do solve with the debrief is like preventing you from making the same mistakes in the future right so if you keep making those same mistakes in the future then you're effectively wasting your time and gas later on so those are all things that you that you need to figure out for how you're going to mitigate that so you can go on and you know be a better fighter pilot for it again there's a high level of discipline there's a high level of time involvement and then internalizing it right so you
take those Lessons Learned you internalize it like you talked about to apply it to the next thing because then if you don't it's becoming a trend item and instructors notice Trend items oh yeah they stick out like a sore thumb so again that's what kind of you know we'll separate the weaker swimmers from the stronger ones you know kind of overall is a good fighter pilot you know always going to make mistakes but the question is is are you able to learn from those mistakes and then apply it to Future sorties or even combat especially
combat sorties well I think we've debriefed the debrief to the extent that our viewers will watch do you have anything for the debrief else to add Mr Deuce well I guess to wrap it up I I would say you know it's just understand your audience and what they need to learn for the day again that basic kind of emotional intelligence if you will for like hey like what's going on overall with you know with my forces for the day and then what are we going to all take away uh from something you know for example
again in the large Force exercise like we're not going to focus on one little execution error from one fighter pilot in one formation it's overall learning you know for everybody that's in the room fighter pilots command control Intel everybody that's involved well you're you so you're going through all this debrief stuff but who wins clean block 30 big mouth or a clean Fat Amy for bfm starting off with individual range a clean block 30 is going to win [Laughter] that's that's all I care about yeah yeah there you go dude thanks so much for coming
on the channel and explaining the brief and the debrief for the kids at home I'm sure they're all going to appreciate it uh and probably people who don't even fly because I think this is stuff you can use in your daily life businesses can use this stuff all the time so thanks for doing this man yeah thanks for having me it was fun all right we'll continue not being a douche and we can't wait to see you again on the channel I love it [Music]
