Elon Musk: We’re watching the ‘thrashing’ of bureaucracy

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[Music] welcome back to Hannity and we are back at the White House and here's part two of my exclusive interview with President Trump and Elon Musk take a look this is the million doll or billion doll I'm among billionaires question so you have all of this going on and you stop in a way you're still doing it and you partner with him and this is what you get for from the Democrats you get nobody voted free line well nobody voted for any of your cabinet nominees okay people are dying because of Doge Cuts I'll give
you a chance to respond all that what doge is doing is illegal Elon Musk is more Street vernacular for a male body part um it's a constitutional crisis okay why why are they reacting like this well I'm first of all do you give it flying rip or number one and well I guess we must be over the Target or doing something right you know if like they wouldn't be complaining so much if they we weren't doing something useful I think um what all we're really trying to do here is restore uh the will of the
people through the president um and and what we're finding is that there's an unelected bureaucracy speaking of unelected there's a there's a vast Federal bureaucracy that is implacably opposed to the the the president and the cabinet um and you look at say DC voting it's 92% KLA okay so we're in 92% commo that's a lot um they don't like me here either I think about that number a lot and like 92% that's basically almost everyone yeah um and so but if if but how could you if if if the will of the president is not
implemented and the president is representative of the people that means the will of the people is not being implemented and that means we we don't live in a a democracy we live in a bureaucracy and so I think what we're seeing here is the sort of the thrashing of the the bureaucracy as we try to restore democracy and the will of the people you is this making sense I mean no of course it does I mean to me if you look at our framers and our Founders and uh you really become a student of History
Mr President and we've we've had conversations both on air and off air and if we talk about constitutional order or transformational change nobody can argue that What's Happening Here is it's going at the speed of light but however what were the principles of our framers and our Founders they wanted limited government greater freedom for the people and we'll get to the specific cutting of waste rall and abuse that that is your goal is it not yeah and my goal was to get great people and uh when you look at what this man has done I
mean it was something I knew him a little bit through the White House originally I'd see him around a little bit I didn't know him before that M and I respected what he did and he fought hard you know he was uh he was uh maybe questioned for a while he was having some difficulties it was not easy doing what he did I mean how many people have started a car company and made it really successful and made a better car where it's you know beating these big companies that that's all they do as cars
I mean it's really amazing the things he's done but I didn't know it as much then as now I mean the fruits have sort of uh taken hold uh but I wanted great people and he's a great person he's an amazing person he's also a caring person you know he uses the word care so they sign a contract in a government agency and it has three months and the guy leaves that signed the contract and nobody else is there and they pay the contract for 10 years yeah so the guy is getting checks for years
and years and years and he's telling his family of obviously maybe was crooked maybe paid to get the contract or maybe paid that they didn't terminate but you know we have contracts go forever and they've been going for years and they're supposed to end in 3 months or 5 months or 2 years or something and they go forever so the guy is either crooked you know where he knew this was going to happen or he's crooked because he's getting payments that he knows he shouldn't be getting but they're finding things like that they're finding things
far worse than that and they're finding billions and it will be hundreds of billions of dollars worth of fraud I say waste and abuse but fraud waste abuse and he's doing an amazing job and he attracts a young very smart type of person uh I call them high IQ individuals and they are they're very highq and high IQ and when they go in to see the people and talk to these people you know the people think they're going to pull it over they don't these guys are smart and they love the country you know there's
a certain something but he uses the word care so people have to care like when I bought Air Force One I negotiated the price it was 5.7 billion and I got it I got them down 1.7 billion now they're not building the plane fast enough I mean they're actually in default Boe that supposed to been building this thing forever I don't know what's going on yeah that we don't build the way we used to build you know we used to build like a ship a day and now to build a ship is like a big
deal and we're going to get this country back on track we can do it but so many things it takes so long to get things built and get things done and a lot of it could be something we've been discussing The Regulators go in and they make it impossible to build they make it very difficult to build anything whether it's a ship a plane or a building or anything and uh some of them do it because they want to show how important they are some of them do it maybe because they think they're right uh
they use the environment to stop progress and to stop things it's always the environment it's an environmental problem it's not a environmental problem at all but they do a lot of things and by the way speaking of that Lee zeldon is going to be fantastic in the position so important he could take 10 years to approve or disapprove something or he could do it in a month you know just as good sure and I think you're going to see some fantastic a fantastic job done by him he's a tremendous Guy new you echoed something when
I just met you and it was very similar to what new has been saying that where're he brought this country to the dance this is the opportunity to be transformational and to have I would argue a the most consequential presidency if we if we really dig down and do something that had never been done before and that is get rid of this bureaucracy and I'm going to get to the specifics you say the same thing it's not done yet and what you mean by that I mean winning the election is really the opportunity uh to
fix the system it is not fixing the system itself so it's an opportunity fix the system and to restore the power of democracy and you know people like it's it's funny how how often you when these attacks occur the thing that they're accusing the administration of is what they are guilty of they're saying that things are are being done unconstitutional but what they are doing is unconstitutional um they are guilty of the crime of which they accuse us that's always the first thing they do he's in violation of the Constitution they don't even know what
they're talking well they it's just a kind job it's a big kind job and they're so bad for the country so dangerous and so bad and the media is so bad when I watch Ms NBC which I don't watch much but you have to watch the enemy on occasion the level of uh arrogance and and uh cheating and they're just horrible people these are horrible people they tell conspiracy theories and they start up with the Constitution they couldn't care less about the Constitution uh CNN likewise I mean I watched them asking questions with you know
the hatred with the I said what are you asking the question with such anger you're asking me a normal question but you see the bias the bias is so incredible those two are bad PBS is bad AP is bad CBS is terrible I mean CBS now they changed an answer in comma they asked her some questions she answered him like you know a low IQ person the opposite of him the absolute oppos but she gave a horrible answer they took the entire answer out and they put another answer that she gave 20 minutes later into
the in as the I've never even heard of that I thought I heard of it all I'm going to just for the sake of saving time because I could spend and I've done this on radio and TV I I can spend an hour finding the outrageous amounts of money being spent abroad like usaid and I just want to mention a couple but I'm going to scroll it well I I guess at a high level I think it's uh what the president mentioned earlier which is that in order to save taxpayer money it comes down to
two things competence and caring and and when when the president was shown the outrageous bill for the new Air Force One um and and then negotiated it down if he if the president had not uh applied competence and caring the price would have been 50% higher literally 50% higher the president cared president was confident the price was not 50% higher as a result and so when you add more confidence and caring you get a better deal for the American people but we could take we were talking about this yesterday I could take give me thousands
of bills any I could pick any one of them but I could take all thousand and let's say it's a bill for $5,000 just 5,000 and it's done by some bureaucrat and if he would say say I'll give you three I don't want to pay you five it's too high I'll give you three but they don't do that if a guy sends in a bill for 5,000 they pay 5,000 they expect to be cut everybody expects to be cut when you send in a bill you expect to be cut they send in the bill higher
for the most part this is true with lawyers legal fees when they send in legal fees you I can cut I wish I had the time I would save so but I could cut these bills in half much better than half but you offer people a much lower number because you know they they actually put fat I'm not even saying it's just it's like a way of business they put more on because they expect to be negotiated when you sending a bill to the government there's nobody to negotiate you send it a bill for $10,000
and they send you a check back for $10,000 if you would call them and said we'll give you five no no no I need more than five we'll give you five I'm not going to pay any more than five I make it six no I'm not going to make it six and you'll settle for $5,500 you've just cut the bill almost in half and it took like 2 minutes but none of that call out the art de that's caring no it's not even the art of the deal it's caring he uses the word it's caring
it's it's a certain competence but I think it's more caring than if if actually if you add either ingredient either competence or caring you you'll get a better outcome but it stands the reason that if you don't have competence you don't have caring you're going to get a terrible deal and the problem is that that the American taxpayers been getting a terrible deal because look at the last Administration can you can anyone can any reasonable person say that last Administration was either confident or caring but they lied to us and said that Jo didn't have
a cognitive lied they said the borders were closed they said that the borders were secure they said that you know they said Obamacare would say they're flat outl flat out insan
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