Joe Rogan Experience #2238 - John McPhee

Joe Rogan podcast check it out The Joe Rogan Experience Train by day Joe Rogan podcast by night all day yeah good to see you brother yeah how are you man great great it was nice to meet you at uh F1 and uh I really loved your episode of Shawn Ryan I [ __ ] love that dude thanks man yeah Shawn is he's the man he's awesome I love Sean I'm so glad there's guys like him doing this that there's there's more people like him that are like finding new ways to like you know media is

is so wide open now and it's not you don't have to get hired by a television station anymore you can just start your own [ __ ] and Sean's show is [ __ ] great yeah he's great Sean's I love him as a person yeah I love him too he's great he's an awesome dude and I loved you on that show but God damn man that show was crazy like your childhood was so nuts dude hearing about you living in a brothel when you were 12 years old me my brother [ __ ] dude your

whole story was so nuts man I was listening to it in the sauna this morning and I was like oh my God so I'm there cooking at 195 de listening to you struggle I was in there for a half an hour which I usually do 20 minutes but I kept going I'm like life was so [ __ ] up I feel like I shouldn't bail right now I should keep listening I I feel like like but I'm not the only one you know what I mean I feel like where I was in the Army is

full of guys just like that 100% yeah 100% yeah and I think in some well Fighters as well you know a lot of Fighters that I know like Sean Strickland a lot of guys I know had [ __ ] up childhoods and I think it gives you an extra gear I think when you can get through a childhood like that you got an extra place that you can go to that other dudes can't go to it and in your line of work that comes in very handy yeah I well I think it works like this

um I never heard it as an extra gear but here's the way I always equated it you know you're going to get a beating and it's coming 5:00 you know you know after dinner you they're going to be hammered and this is another argument in fight and it's a pattern right uh and you know this as a kid right and what happens is you got to take that beating and then like put your church clothes on we're going to church you know what I mean and the truth is is like um uh I think my

my brother more than me but uh I think my mom actually had him convinced that we were super bad kids and like you know we were I don't know a couple years ago I was like you know like you ever met an actual bad like four or six or eight-year-old no it's how they're raised right it's all another and then it was kind of like uh I think it was an eye opener for him but like it was always our fault well that's a thing you can convince kids of almost anything you can convince them

it's their fault you can convince them that they're bad kids and then they feel bad for the rest of their [ __ ] life they feel like a piece of [ __ ] yeah there's a lot of people out there that didn't do anything wrong they're just raised by [ __ ] and for their whole life they feel like garbage yeah and they don't know why yeah age it's so hard to snap out of that too and it it takes something for you to do that makes you feel valuable and worthwhile like just you have

to kind of like relearn who you are as a person yeah and some people never do yeah and then they you know find meth or heroin or something that takes the edge away they can just exist yeah well I tell you that was the Army for me like the first time I ever felt like like I fit in or I was with people like me was when I was you know in ranger battalion yeah I I think fighting is the same way a lot of those guys the only time they ever feel normal is when

they're in a gym with a bunch of other Savages yeah it's like guys who want to do that for living you know generally something [ __ ] terribly wrong happened when you were young yeah that put this anger this monster inside of you well I tell you the I tell people all the time Jiu-Jitsu is my sanity yeah oh Jiu-Jitsu is meditation man because if you are doing Jiu-Jitsu you can't be thinking about anything else right so it cleans your mind up you know we were talking about bow hunting yeah I think that's the same

thing I think in in a different way it's just when you're doing that it's so difficult you can't think about anything else right I I love when I'm I don't even care if I get or see an elk today the places I go to get these elk I could just sit there all day anyway I know you know what I mean the fact that like one of these majest IC Beast is going to walk 20 yards from me [ __ ] bonus you know what I mean like I just you know what I'm saying like

and I feel the same about jiujitsu you know like uh I always like in jiujitsu when someone does like what you call High Lev Jiu-Jitsu to me as it's happening like couldn't I don't care if you're smashing my [ __ ] face that was amazing are you kidding me like let's take a moment here you know it's amazing that someone can do that yeah you know I remember when I was first starting Jiu-Jitsu I was like 30 years old and I thought I was a badass I had kickbox I'd won a bunch of taekwan do

tournaments I thought I knew how to fight and I remember one day when I was a white belt this purple belt just raped me I mean he was my size this was what drove me crazy he wasn't bigger than me and he just destroyed me just destroyed just did whatever he wanted triangled me armbarred me choked me and I remember walking out of there going I can't first of all what a like shift of like who you are in the world knowing that someone can just do that to you not a bigger guy like someone

your size can just you're helpless and then I remember thinking I got to get good at this like that having that as a skill that's like one of the greatest things you could ever have like cuz that's what martial arts was supposed to be when we were kids like that the smaller person could beat the larger person just with technique correct until horse Gracie came along you never really saw that the bigger guy always won and then Hoy Gracie all of a sudden he's killing people from his back and we're like what is going on

yeah this is crazy he's losing he's not losing all a sudden he's like he's strangling some guy with his legs we're like what the [ __ ] is this yeah I agree I agree I tell you uh I met hoist like we you know in the early days we'd bring hoist and Horan was actually the first Gracie I met before hoist right but we bring hoist in and like watching these guys like you know we'd get like 60 guys up on the mat and this is hard to do and this is a lot of guys

because it's Hoy you know and he would run through every dude yeah every dude and it was like not like not like it was a close match it was like whatever dude from the def stepped in front of him was the 12-year-old child against the [ __ ] an adult yeah you know what I mean like he just [ __ ] handled everybody and I remember one of those times he just [ __ ] I did something and he cinched down on me like a spider and I couldn't [ __ ] move and he goes

yes I did not think of this this is a good move and I was like I don't even know what the [ __ ] I'm doing like you know what I mean I I wasn't even a white belt yet it was just he was just [ __ ] me up you know but I knew like right then and there I was [ __ ] helpless yeah it's a weird feeling and like yo unacceptable you know what I mean unable right unacceptable right word yeah you got to learn this you got to know some of it

you know what I mean and even back then like we would all tell ho you know cuz we were more Muay Thai we would train a lot of Muay Thai boxing right wrestling a lot of wrestling uh you know before the jits and like we would tell hoist back then as soon as you learn to punch you are super dangerous which is I think where it is now this episode is brought to you by the farmer's dog dogs are amazing they're loyal they're lovable like just having Marshall around can make my day 10 times better

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just go to thefarmersdog.com Rogan tap the banner or visit this episode's page to learn more offer applicable for new customers only yeah well I think wrestling is kind of there's like so many Elite wrestlers now that have learned submissions and that extra skill of being able to throw bodies round is another level I agree cuz wrestlers can learn Jiu-Jitsu pretty easy an elite wrestler you take a guy like a Bo nickel or a Daniel Cormier teach him Jiu-Jitsu they're gonna hamach Chay is the best example of that you gonna you teach a guy like that

submissions he already knows how to ragd doll people so he has this ability to take everybody down and then on top of that he's going to break your neck like he it's like that extra SK I think wrestling is like the foundation that's the one thing cuz then you can dictate whether the fight goes to the ground or stays up up you know and then once you learn submissions which is pretty easy for a wrestler to learn it's pretty similar it's the same sport I used to wrestle and it's like the cradle for the pin

versus an armar right in my opinion sure Dar jokes all these different things come from similar positions but then stand up you know you have to have stand up today because every I think you know I've been talking about this a lot I don't think I think when you have a fight and there five rounds let's say have a fight if a guy's mounted on top of a guy at the end of the first round I think the second round should start with that guy mounted on top of you I don't think they should start

standing up because it doesn't make any sense like you didn't earn that standup that guy took you down he got on top of you he's mounted on you you're about to get [ __ ] up and then all a sudden you have a reprieve from the governor because the round is over and now you're standing up again and if you're a striker that's your world but you didn't earn that position right it's one fight it's not five fights it's one fight so why should you have a beginning of every round where you're standing up yeah

I agree I agree with that if I could change the rules that's the first rule that I would change I would say you whatever position you were in at the end of the round that's where you start I completely agree with that and I always feel like that it just [ __ ] [ __ ] up yeah you know what I mean and then you know this doing Jiu-Jitsu is like seconds matter and this fight could turn around in seconds but those seconds can't happen if we stop this early 100% yeah I agree with that

well the early days were wild right because cuz there was no time limit that hey that's what I watched the early days is my hay day like I could not get enough I was you know uh fight dummy for ho for uh sakuraba uh who else oh ho so okay I'll tell you a quick story about ho he uh he comes out we're doing jits with him and uh I'm a new guy so I'm like hey you could share my wall Locker right and you got a wall locker and you got like your towel cuz

the shower's down the hallway you know what I mean like uh I have clothes right and then so hoist put his family pictures and I didn't notice this but they slowly did this him and my team retagged everything with like my last name and team numbers with hoist right so they retagged all my gear as hoist right they uh ho put his kids pictures up over mine right and one day I'm in the I'm in my locker like is this my locker like what the [ __ ] what the [ __ ] is going on

and I'm like whose kids are these like and then uh ho is like you know yes you like my kids and I'm like oh those are your kids like no that's cool right like years later I'm in Iraq and I'm like I got to go for like one of these surges in the fujia with another Squadron and like their opar major calls me by name and it's like I've been in Iraq like 30 seconds these guys are calling me by name like what the [ __ ] you know and then he was like we're getting

your stuff uh it's on uh it's on the helicopter you need to get on this little bird bird we leav in like 20 minutes and literally I got on the little bird they bring my kid over I get my [ __ ] on right and they're like yo who [ __ ] is hey Roy is there a Roy Roy you know what I mean and then like my bag was one it's [ __ ] still tagged with Ho's name later that's hilarious so you started training martial arts in when you were in the military in

the unit yeah in the unit so did they have like was it like Technical Training did they teach you did you did they have like real instructors or was how does it work yeah so uh in training when you kind of make it to the unit there's a hand toand program a lot of the hand toand program is like traditionally like you got to Cuff people you know what I mean like which is all Japanese wrist locks which is a foundation for a lot of [ __ ] right but uh you know you learn that

stuff like how if you have a weapon how to like approach somebody if they grab your weapon what to do so it was all like uh weap been focused like more like self-defense but I think back then in my day right in the 9s it was still bro come at me like this you know what I mean and you're like why the [ __ ] would I stand like this ever like what the [ __ ] was I doing that got me here you know what I mean like so it was always some back then

there was a lot of Hocus Pocus so we kind of had our own training program and then as my years the training program got better because we started getting ho we started ground fighting you know I think the the premise for everything they taught in my day when I was a student was like uh you know weapons retention Japanese wrist lock to get someone cuffed you know Twan cuffing procedures searching and then like how to defend yourself if someone grabbed your weapon or if you went to the ground right right which is all stuff you

have to know right but there wasn't a lot of like just oneon-one no no it's like you know you're in the you're in the gym they roll out the wrestling mat and it's like okay come at the guy like with your rifle you then yeah a bunch of [ __ ] white belts basically like out there [ __ ] around basically do it was it like uh there was there a system like a training system was there like there was a there was a system back then and the system was really um I think kind

of four things without uh really knowing what they did back then I went through the training but I don't really know what the hand the hand was back then until later when I was like in the hand toand program or fighting with guys you know what I mean but um I would say this back then I'd say it was wrestling it was uh Muay Thai right it was uh a little bit of Japanese wrist locks and some uh Filipino martial arts oh like kie kie yeah we had guys that would do the sticks I know

a little bit of the sticks you know like first time I got smacked 37 [ __ ] times around the head was another this guy with his sticks it was like what the [ __ ] was that like how do these sticks move so [ __ ] fast you know dudes are good with that are very impressive yeah super impressive so I think that was really the foundation like and you know maybe like some I don't know like dirty boxing I would kind of imagine you know what I mean clinching clinching punching stuff like that

did how did the Filipinos develop that stick fighting like where did that come from weird weird that like one culture is known for their stick fighting yeah yeah kind of odd right but hey I love all that uh that they stick fighting what do they call it ponin or whatever the dirty boxing they do like all very make your opponent off balance at the same time you can strike or if they are trying to strike you knock them off balance stuff like that I'm just I've always been so fascinated how different cultures have a completely

different approach to fighting like the ties figured out the best way to fight standup yeah kick the [ __ ] out of the legs yeah [ __ ] kick his legs elbow the [ __ ] out of people in the clinch plung knees to the body knees to the face they figured out striking in a way that nobody else had it's weird that they did it yeah and I think it's just because of the competition all the time in the betting yeah because like they were fighting so often and they had so much money on

the line for fighting that they developed a very pragmatic way of fight cuz they were fighting all the time as opposed to like karate or any of these other things I don't think they were really fighting as much well we don't I mean think about America like prior to Mike Tyson boxing was kind of like Americans if they would have seen like hickon Gracie you know if hickon Gracie would have been popular in like the 70s or 60s people have been like well that's not civilized fighting you know what I mean like right get your

dukes up this has got to be fair you know what I mean Americans have a a very fair sense of what fighting should be like Americans hate like dirty fighting and but you know all the all Muay Thai and and the kie and all that they that was all seen you know those guys would come from Asia fight around the states here [ __ ] kick everyone's ass and people still weren't attracted to it did you ever see there's one fight that's like one of the most important fights in kickboxing where Rick Rufus who is

like the king of American style kickboxing like above the ways kickboxing fought this thae guy I forget how I can't pronounce guy's name correctly so I don't want to butcher it but this and Rick Rufus was [ __ ] him up in the beginning he dropped him he had him in real trouble Rick Rufus was really good but this dude just kept chopping at the legs chopping at the legs and by the end of the fight Rick's in a heap on the ground and his own brother Duke rfus who became a world Muay Thai Champion

himself later and became one of the best trainers in MMA this is so this is the fight what happened I show the name oh that's how his name good luck saying that one yeah but oh this is not this is a different this is like a compilation of a bunch of different people fighting that's not this is it the fight that changed uh kickboxing so this this fight well this isn't this is a bunch of other [ __ ] go go into the fight itself that's [ __ ] just go Norris I've seen Chuck in

there Chuck was legit Chuck was very so this is the fight so in the beginning Rick Rufus who's like this above the weight kick he drops him with the left hand Rick was really [ __ ] good man he was really good but they just didn't know anything about the leg kicks and after the fight like his brother Duke was like well I don't think there's any skill involved in kicking the legs and he was saying that look he drops him again so he dropped him two times look like Rick is [ __ ] him

up but this thae guy just he's probably had 200 fights and he just keeps kicking at the legs and after a while Rick's legs are just dead I mean the tie guys getting lit up but Rick became an unbelievable leg kicker himself after this but no one knew they just they just didn't know so as the fight goes on and this is like a huge like challenge match see look he drops him with this leg kick after a while Rick just can't move anymore and this dude I he ain't even running away well no he's

his legs are dead right now and he's just getting every time this tie is kicking him he can barely walk and at the end of the fight he winds up in a heap cuz he just doesn't know you know he doesn't know yet and he's getting dumped too like look at these [ __ ] low kicks devastating low kicks and at the end of the fight he's just in a heap on the ground yeah his kick had no power there but the thing is like Rick was really [ __ ] good back in the day

so when you that that didn't show the end of the fight but at the end of the fight he just he brutalized him with just low kicks the ties had figured something out that nobody had figured out and it's kind of shocking that this one area of the world like this one small island but they figured it out yeah it's kind of crazy I love it yeah I love it too it's just and then Brazilian jiu-jitsu right yeah until you know MAA comes to Brazil in like the 1930s or some [ __ ] whatever that

was whatever that was and then they go the Brazilians like huh I think we can fix this and they start like you know because ilio was a small guy and Helio is like going well what about if we just did it this way we fought with leverage and just instead of using strength we used technique and changed everything yeah changed martial arts forever yeah I wild I love all yeah I'll tell you that leg kick is my go-to in Iraq in Afghanistan you know what I mean like I get about this far from you this

is good distance for me you can't grab my weapons but what I would do is I'd throw the tie leg kick but I wouldn't aim for the middle of the thigh I don't care about your pain I'd hit your knee and either it's going to break your knee or it's going to knock you out of your little [ __ ] slippers and then I just stand on your neck yeah it's it's one of the most effective things you could do you take away someone's base yeah and you know that's the crazy thing about MMA is

now we're learning that kicking in the calf is actually even more effective than kicking in the thigh because there's no meat there and you slam a shin into that and all of a sudden your foot goes floppy it doesn't work anymore your leg's useless it's crazy and we've figured that out over the last five or six years which is really nuts like Michael bisbing who was a world champion told me he went his whole career without ever getting kicked in the calf wow and that was like you know four four or five years ago he

was a world champion and win his entire career without getting kicked in the calf nuts it's nuts it's like it's constantly changing and evolving yeah like people find something that works and they like oh what about this I love that it's always evolving too well martial arts have evolved more in the last 30 years than they have in the last 30,000 years I agree that's a fact yeah that's a fact that's kind of shocking you think about how long people have been fighting I don't know you know I see this you know I shoot every

day I teach people to shoot all over the country all the time right and it's kind of interesting to me that um I don't think it works like that you know what I mean like you would you would think people would have been doing this right the whole time but there's like a lot of myth involved and and it gets watered down over time I think a lot of times even in shooting yeah like what are the myths in shooting oh so [ __ ] many man like do we got the time I just I

[ __ ] shred this [ __ ] the NRA I go to all I speak at the NRA shows like the NRA hires me I speak at all uh the NRA show this year I actually got rof feed in [ __ ] Dallas at the NRA show yeah no [ __ ] do you know who did it uh so is [ __ ] this is crazy right but uh okay I have an assistant right um I don't know she's like 30 blonde girl pretty girl her and her husband are are with me and I'm with

like the Surefire representative like yo sorry we got you rofi by the way uh and then like some other guys right and we get done with the show and we just go have a drink or two and we're going into like the hotel restaurant to eat a nice steak dinner you know what I mean so we get around of drinks and it was uh like well oldfashioned is what it was well old Fashions and my assistant's like I sit next to her she's like I just can't drink anymore you know what I mean like these

are horrible old Fashions I just can't I just can't drink these anymore and I was like hey we'll be a dinner in a minute they got good booze at the good restaurant well get anything you want right so she's like okay so I was like here I'll take it so I held my cup up and then I kind of held my cup up the Surefire guy her husband and she kind of fills us all up equally and so so somebody was trying to ruy her her right so yeah yeah this is in Dallas right so

okay so we go to dinner I don't know I get this wo Burger it's [ __ ] delicious I'm kind of buzzed I'm drinking good whiskey you know what I mean we're having a good time right I love good food right so uh I'm having a great time her husband's at the end of the table and all of a sudden and that this is like within 45 minutes of that drink which I also didn't know right so uh his head hits the table boom and I look at him I'm like like like is he okay

and then like uh hey you know how like uh you know them blow up pools where you pull down the side in the water just kind of Glides over the top you know his mouth opens and it was just like who across the table you know what I mean and I was like I pushed away from the table like so it didn't leak on me and I was like we got to go you know what I mean it's time to leave you know what I mean I'll get the check by the front door or something

you know what I mean but it's we definitely it's time for you weren't feeling it yet no I wasn't I didn't I didn't feel anything yet right so okay so it was like I never seen this happen to this guy ever right so he this isn't him like so it's kind of weird right so my assistant's like hey I'll take him up to the room I was like okay well we're going to go have a few more drinks at the bar right so me and the other guy go to the bar she goes up to

her room right I don't know any of this is happening but as soon as I get to the room the head of Security's knocking on the door so my assistant answers and I guess the guy was like is is there a guy that threw up in the restaurant here and she's like he's in the bathtub naked right now like and then the head of security like hey we watch the tapes ton of info comes out right so I don't know who did it I think so but like uh and then did it tell you no

no no they they talked to my assistant and then her husband right like so uh I go down to the bar right I put my credit card on the bar and like I [ __ ] party till all hours of the night yo what did I learn if you rofy me like you're going to wait six hours to get that booty cuz once you give me drugs I want a party baby you know what I mean like so I'm out like I don't know what the [ __ ] the the Shire guy [ __ ]

Peters out on me and I'm probably just in the lobby alone like [ __ ] up I don't know what the [ __ ] you know what was in it [ __ ] no it was just something it was wasn't necessarily rofy rof andol yeah probably something I don't know what it was uh so uh the next day we check out right show's over we check out so uh my assistant's knocking on my door right and I'm a get up early guy I do my cardio you know so I'm normally up early and she's knocking

on my door right so I answer my door and I'm like thinking the [ __ ] is she doing here so early right both of them her and her husband and she's like you know I'm glad you're okay and I'm like uh what you know what I mean and she's like what what she looks she's looking at me she's like not you too and I'm like me too what you know what I mean I'm kind of foggy right uh it was like [ __ ] it was checkout it after checkout time I slept till like

[ __ ] 1 in the afternoon the next day I had the worst [ __ ] hangover ever like if that was ruy do The Hangover understand why people don't do them recreationally you know what I mean like I had the worst [ __ ] hangover so she's like did anybody get tested to find out what it is mm-m no they had to fly home that afternoon they got me in my Sprinter van I had to go do a class like somewhere else I was on the [ __ ] road so like she got me

they drove me to breakfast got me something to eat kind of sober me up a little bit right and then um they went to the airport dropped me off and I drove somewhere else in Texas I was working here um and then uh you know the the head of security talked to her and her husband called them a couple days later check make sure they were okay but long story short is we had a round of drinks that none of us ordered come to our table and they came to our table from the same waitress

that we had you know what I mean so somehow we got around of drinks and we even paid for them and when I got the bill like I don't know we had two drinks and we were getting ready to go and then the a third one came and I just figured someone one of these someone ordered it you know what I mean it'll be fine and then I just paid for it all didn't know not even think of it and so did the security know who roofed you uh I think so I think so tell

you I think they told my assistant I think they and you didn't ask her no I didn't care yeah oh I'd want to know I think it was like a targeted thing where they just [ __ ] rob you oh you know what I'm saying like I don't think I mean all right first and foremost I think everyone's trying to burgle booty holes this day and age and you got to keep your safe so there's that right but uh I also think like uh I think it was like they know all these people are in

for these conventions so they try to drug somebody and just Rob just [ __ ] you could have just took my I'd have handed you my wallet I that you know what I mean [ __ ] it it would there's not a crime it happened to a buddy of mine recently oh yeah yeah he met this girl and they go back to his place and then he wakes up the next day and he's robbed stole his Rolex stole $25,000 in cash from him but he got tested and he had um I think it was Xanax

she piled a bunch of anx into his drink and he was just out didn't know what the [ __ ] happened came to the club afterwards he was like all [ __ ] up came to the comedy club he's a comedian Hans Kim shout out to Hans hilarious guy so he's like something happened I don't know what happened we're like hey man go to [ __ ] go get tested right now while it's still in your system so he goes and gets his hair tested and they they found that there was ruies in them damn

I didn't even know you be tested yeah you could be tested yeah oh [ __ ] but you there's like a time period if you test hair it'll like last a little longer and I think he waited a day so they had to test hair but within a certain time period they can test you and find out what it is and they said did you take any Xanax he's like no and like you have a lot of Xanax in your system and apparently that's one of the things that they give people to Rob them dang

does it cause a hangover I'm sure it's got to look if you're going to Dr me going to whack you out drug me yo if you're gonna rob me like I just want to say this to the world if you're gonna [ __ ] rob me like give me The non- Hangover [ __ ] you're getting my [ __ ] anyway what is The non- Hangover [ __ ] [ __ ] I don't know whatever that [ __ ] is you know more about drugs than me I was in the Army my whole life I

don't think it exists damn it Joe I think it's prescription stuff or GHB I know a lot of people give people GHB I've heard of that that just get you're like you don't know what the [ __ ] going on heard that I've heard of people getting rofy that if I was a woman I'd be [ __ ] terrified to accept a drink from anybody [ __ ] dud are I've talked to so many ladies that have had their their alcohol drugged by someone women go to bars they keep their [ __ ] hand over

their drink all the time even when they're turning around and looking away cuz they just never know some guy just dropped something in there real quick next you know you're going home with them you don't even know where you are I had a buddy uh he doesn't even drink like someone convinced them to have like a a glass of wine Small Town North Carolina and like the cops pulled him over like you know not far down the road and he was like I don't know what's going on but I can't feel my hands you know

what I mean like and he's like he's just a regular guy you know and um they brought him back to the station and someone had put I think it was a little bit of fentanyl or some [ __ ] in in the wine and like he he left and he said he felt fine and he was driving he said like I don't feel right even though like he doesn't really he had one glass of wine like he might he doesn't even drink you know I don't even know why he had a glass of wine someone

probably talked him into it you know what I mean he probably didn't even finish it but he's like he you he said he was lucky felt lucky [ __ ] nonhuman people out there I'm telling you that's one of the things I wanted to talk about today is like there's [ __ ] real evil in the world and in Iraq where in Afghanistan you go into these [ __ ] up places where they've been like I don't know [ __ ] raping beheading people [ __ ] tribal [ __ ] forever like there was buildings

I didn't even want to [ __ ] go in like You' you'd go and you'd be like every [ __ ] hair on my body just be standing up and I mean at the doorway and be like I don't even want to clear this [ __ ] building you know what I mean and I don't know [ __ ] why but uh I know there's [ __ ] old evil in this world evil is real it's [ __ ] real and if you've never experienced it you could walk around delusional think oh come on it's

real you can feel it like when I'm around real evil [ __ ] only two places I felt real evil [ __ ] in my life is Gettysburg and [ __ ] in Iraq Afghanistan yeah I felt that like I did because I felt evil before and it like makes me want to throw up it hurts my stomach like you mean in the area of Getty's yeah on the battle my stepfather felt the same thing and he's not woo woo at all he's like a real straight edged guy [ __ ] man and he said

It felt so creepy I was almost going to me and uh me and my my son were out there ghost hunting right and we were both going to throw up and I didn't tell him but like I had felt that feeling crazy that you said that about Gettysburg cuz my stepdad's never said anything like that before and he said just the feeling it was so sad and creepy and you just wanted to get out of immediately makes me want to throw up that feeling I think places have memory I really believe that well it's I

think it's energy and I don't think it can be created or [ __ ] you you talked to science guys right energy don't go away right well I think you just don't see it and you can't measure it so you assume it's not there but I think that's one of the reasons why when someone gets murdered in a house they have to tell you about it right they have to because like people they they know like there was John B Ramsay's house when I lived in Boulder I lived in Boulder for a while we were

looking at houses to buy and there was this one house it was like really cheap for the house I was like this is a nice [ __ ] house they had changed the name of the street so they could try to sell this house because everybody knew that it was the house that John Ben Ramsey had been killed in they couldn't [ __ ] sell the house and we were look yeah [ __ ] that house we were looking at the house on like Zillow we're like oh that's a beautiful house maybe we should go

check out this house and then we found out we're like oh that's why they can't sell it like oh man like they changed the name of the street to try to sell this house it's [ __ ] up they should have just bulldozed it they should have bulldozed it and then what do you do about the ground it's still there you still would you want to live in a place where they bulldoze the house where a little girl are getting kill [ __ ] that not not even not even joking about it I don't want

to live there no no one wants to live there I don't even know what it what it is now I mean I don't know if anybody ever bought it I grew up in old houses in the Chicago area you know what I mean and like some of them houses were creepy for no reason and some weren't you know what I'm saying like yeah yeah oh there's something there's something to that but uh Hey I was I was in Iraq and I was in one of them like you know UD and cus like [ __ ]

raped people them guys were evil you went to like their like their palace that kind of [ __ ] all of them my yeah I carried I carried their bodies off an airplane and had to guard them until they got cleaned up by the Morgan DNA tested whoa but uh them [ __ ] guys them Palace is like they would pick up like [ __ ] 12y olds off the street they didn't give [ __ ] the Lions we found them [ __ ] so UD had Lions and the lions were it's not funny but

I mean it's kind of humorous but I think it's funny uh the lions were like on the the Army side the big army side and they were inside this fence right and then the lions were like just lazy as [ __ ] didn't care about no army guys and then one day I seen a lady and kid kids walk by and they're just behind chain link and them [ __ ] Lions went nuts and I knew like feeding them ladies and kids [ __ ] yeah [ __ ] yeah they were [ __ ] evil

I read so many horrible stories about those guys they would find a woman who was getting married and uh they would rape her and then feed her to their dogs yeah or the [ __ ] carp outside the Palaces you know them big lakes full of these giant carps that just while going to eat bodies like you read about yeah but uh so I was down in one of those one night just cuz like I could be and I had my flashlight always been fascinated by ghost hunting by the way uh so I'm down there

by myself just exploring you know what I mean and like [ __ ] door slammed on me you know what I mean I freaked the [ __ ] out and I'm the only one down there you know what I mean like freaked me the [ __ ] out man and the energy down in those [ __ ] like rape rooms or whatever the I don't know the you call it like they did [ __ ] bad [ __ ] there it's just like I don't know like it it it like you ever ride like a

roller coaster and it like turns your turns your stomach yeah that's how it feels to me in them rooms I don't know what that is but it makes me almost want to throw up and the stronger it is the more I feel like I'm going to throw up but um those guys were such [ __ ] monsters it's just so crazy that that that story repeats itself over and over again like the sun of kings that grow up that way are always just super [ __ ] evil cuz they have unchecked power from the time

they're a child yeah yeah I got I gotta be honest if I could clone myself and I'd had like a mini me right now I would abuse him just to make sure he grows up right I would raise him right you know what I mean like uh I don't and I when I say abuse him I mean like force him to work hard yeah [ __ ] earn his [ __ ] his whole [ __ ] life I mean like I had a guy like I had a uh I don't know what he was I

was in the Middle East somewhere and uh one of the guys asked me like are American babies stupid and I'm like what and he's like are American babies stupid and I'm like why and he's like well in America like there would be a fence at the edge of the cliff so the baby can't go over in my country like the baby knows don't go by the cliff and I'm like uh I don't know like [ __ ] a what the [ __ ] well I bet they don't I bet the babies that don't know go

off the cliff and there those jeans never propagate again yeah yeah that's the most harsh form of natural selection Darwinism right there the most harsh form of it yeah yeah yeah no [ __ ] I mean kids that grow up outside lockkey kids like when I was a kid yeah you just got left out of the house bye have fun and you figure out who's the child molester yeah you figure you figure out who's a creep who's what's dangerous go don't go near the train tracks you can't hear the train till it's too late stay

away from the kid that gets hit yeah at the liquor store exactly yeah yeah I did the same thing you learned about danger yeah I tell you my uh I lo I got my first key I was six I [ __ ] lost it like the same day my mom's yelling at me and she's like you know what do you got to say for yourself I was like I still remember it's like one of my oldest memories I was like I'm six yeah and she was just kind of like yeah I'm six like I had

it one [ __ ] day like I never carried a key in my life like of course I'm going to [ __ ] this up you know and she was like we can't afford all these Keys you know what I mean like uh but at the same time like I'm [ __ ] six you know so we ended up having to hide it somewhere and then you know cuz my brother wasn't good at [ __ ] keys either like you know it's [ __ ] up that I don't want that to happen to my kids

like I don't want my I mean my life was nothing like your life but I was definitely like let loose in the world you know and not really given any guidance ton of ton of let loose with no guidance but that's how you make a person like you like a person like you doesn't come from a home that has like you know you're coddled you're taken care of you're always protected like the only way you make like a Legit Beast of a man is that that man has to go through a lot of [ __

] through their life and then they come out on the other end hard right it's the only way you don't you know I've never met like a world champion fighter that came from like the happiest of childhoods just doesn't exist I don't a lot of a lot of unit or special forces or Ranger gu he like uh I used to call it the fatherless you know what I mean and it it works kind of two ways either you had a dad but he worked and he came home and he passed out and he woke up

and he was gone before you got up and when you got home he was asleep on the couch or already out for the night cuz he [ __ ] works [ __ ] a lot of hours or you kind of just didn't have a dad you know what I mean right those people make special forces soldiers just like you know dad issues for a chick or put her on a pole those same isues and a dude puts them in Special Forces I think and I'll take the fatherless all day long yeah you know for sure

well those are the world champions I mean that's Mike Tyson right you know he was 13 years old no family yeah gets adopted by a guy's a psychologist who's you know a hypnotist yeah and is a great boxing coach and teaches him to become this Elite fighter and you I kind of think that you don't become that guy unless you're dealing with all sorts of unspeakable tragedy in Horrors right when you're a child well you wouldn't have that kind of focus without that right you wouldn't have that monster inside of you like you have to

that monster has to grow because it needs to be there right yeah yeah I would say like and I don't know what the ratio is but I would say like one out of every [ __ ] 100 or 300 is like the [ __ ] high school quarterback who married the [ __ ] prom King very rare yeah very I think I only knew one of those guys yeah and those guys I bet if you dig into their childhood the dad was probably a little abusive yeah or their mom or brother yeah something there's another

thing older brothers it's like you want to find the Young Brother the young brother's the Beast I'm the little brother yeah that's it the young brother gets beat up by the older brother and just constantly embattle his whole life like so many fighters the best fighters have like like Chris weidman's got a great story like that well I mean think about this if you had to fight your bigger brother off your whole life you would be good at jitsu why cuz you understand Le you understand patience wait for the move take some punishment move later

you know the deal you're also accustomed to being in battle all the time with your brother right yeah Hixon was a little brother to holes yeah yeah same thing yeah and Horan yeah Hixon is uh he's such a unique guy because he was like the first guy that figured out like that physical Strength yoga all the gymnastic natural stuff that he did flexibility like yeah he was like a physical specimen on top of being super technical so he had like both things yeah he had it all I think way before people knew before like he

he knew the winning mindset and how to keep that mental edge with all the other things and the fighting was just something that he grew up to do I think in my opinion you know what I mean yeah he had that Samurai mindset yeah I'm telling you I think he like I talk to a lot of people uh I know some legendary guys from the Army right uh when he talks it's like this weird time Vortex you ever talk to him like serious like yeah I've had a couple podcasts with him wow like it's incredible

you know I went over his house once in like 2000 and uh him and um uh his his son and we were watching Coliseum so Coliseum was like the last time he fought when he fought faki and we were watching all the different fights he had a tape of it we were watching it and he was breaking down all the things that all these guys were doing wrong it was such a fascinating education he's like there's too much space you start here there's too much space and he goes he had this philosophy good accent by

the way if he goes we start at a neutral point we start at a neutral point if I get to one I'm not going back to zero I'm going one to two to three to checkmate he goes I'm not going backwards he goes these guys they lose position they go for here go for there all this extra space and he was like breaking it down while we're were watching the fights it was such an education love that oh it was [ __ ] amazing man it was amazing yeah he's a he's a legend oh man

like one of the great Legends of martial arts you know if you like go into the history of martial arts Hicks and Gracie will go down as you know there's a Mount Rushmore of martial arts Legends him and ho are right up there yeah I agree with that and ho would tell you like Hixon he goes my brother was a 100 times better than me yeah well when ho used to come to us he would tell us straight up I'm not the family fighter yeah our our you know and I think what he told us

back then was like I don't know Hixon was Pride contracts UFC was different couldn't figure it out that's why ho even fought right I I thought that was kind of the deal back then but I don't that's a long time ago Oran there was a bunch of different thoughts on it you know hoist jokes around he goes he goes look how beautiful I am that's why they wanted me but it was also because Hixon was very physically dominant and the idea was like let's have this guy that doesn't look physically impressive to show jiujitsu to

show the power of Jiu-Jitsu but if that doesn't work then we bring in hickon but obviously Ho Beat everybody and then Hixon went over to do Japan Valley tudo in like 94 I think it was I used to love all those the valet tudos Pride I thought that was the best man great the Golden Era of martial arts when everybody was learning like holy [ __ ] there's so much out there yeah I agree I loved every minute and then Fedor melan enko comes on the scene he's just like Fedor is my favorite one of

the alltime greats he's another one I mean if there's an the greatest heavyweight of all time you have to have he's got to be in the conversation I feel like uh back in the day we'd be like we'd be talking about fighting and it'd be like man I wonder if anyone's ever like done this from like the mount yeah a Fedor won like six fights like that wonder if like well Fedor won his last fight just like that just like [ __ ] this guy like in his prime he was a monster and so stoic

like his expression never changed he gets head kicked he gets suplexed nothing it's like no one's home in there you know what I mean just just didn't register he was just a machine yeah yeah yeah I loved him and I liked when he uh I seen an interview one time remember his brother Alexander sure he was like Alexander his better than me if he just wouldn't party so much yeah he was an animal and I was just thinking [ __ ] Fedor saying his brother's better than him you know what I mean well his brother

was bigger and taller and was a nasty Striker man his brother was a vicious Striker had good kicks too God kick he was [ __ ] good man but that was that was the days where you know everyone was just kind of figuring out what worked and what didn't work yeah yeah yeah you had a vanderlay the ax Mur love it it was also a time where everybody was juicy yeah the the whole organization was like I had a friend who was going to fight over there and he was 170 lbs and they said uh

no we want you to fight at 185 go do steroids like go do steroids what the [ __ ] like they tell us to do steroids and when enen was on the podcast he told me in the contract it said like in capital letters we do not test for steroids you're like go have fun yeah come back yolked up come back juicy Everybody Was Juicy back then because it was the wild days it was like the wild west they just wanted the best most exting fights possible I think that's what people want now oh yeah

you know what I mean there's a real argument for that I don't think the fans give a [ __ ] about drug testing I you know I don't think look and I think this is for all like the Olympics I get it but the NFL like seriously why you even [ __ ] why what do you test what do you want the sport to suck like baseball that was the thing when they were doing like Mark Maguire and all that [ __ ] and Sammy Sosa like why are you testing these guys it's the most

exciting thing is to hit a home run these guys are doing something that makes them better at hitting home runs everybody should do that thing whatever the [ __ ] that is think about how much more money that bring those organizations yeah but there was this thing back then that it was cheating but what it really is is science like they'd figure out there's a way where you recover more you get stronger you get faster like hey do that guys and by the way everybody else is doing it too they're just like hiding it in

some sort of a weird way you know they're just masking it and taking weird stuff and there was you know that FCO Scandal where they're all taking this stuff called the clear so they never heard of that you never heard of that I had that guy Victor ke on the podcast who created the clear and what he what he's a scientist and what he did is he bco labs they figured out that when they're testing they're testing for very specific metabolite so they took steroids and then they changed it slightly so that it didn't show

up in the test and they're giving them the stuff and they would all pass clear and they were all [ __ ] just monsters like Barry Bonds he was a monster I met Barry Bonds in 1994 I was on this television show called Hardball and Barry Bonds was uh you know he's still a major league player big time player but he was a regular guy like he looked like a regular athlete and then he started getting juicy and then years later he gained like 60 pounds and was just [ __ ] gigantic and smashing home

runs like that would be good like you should keep doing that whatever you're doing I think that's all sports yo jump as high as you can take your [ __ ] gear jump high run far smash each other let's go well that's the enhanced games you know the enhanced games doing that they're developing this whole protocol right now and the enhanced game is going to let people do whatever the [ __ ] they want that works and their idea is we are going to develop the best athletes in every discipline and then we're going to

give them a lot of money and we're gonna like [ __ ] the Olympics the Olympics is a giant scam because the Olympics the athletes don't make any money and NBC and all these broadcast networks and the ioc they're making billions of dollars off the backs of these athletes hard work and no one is going to see them they're going to see the athletes right I mean the athletes aren't even compensated it's a crazy scam it really is because it's not like no if no one made any money including the networks including the ioc great

great but that's not the case someone's making a [ __ ] [ __ ] ton of money but it's not the people that are putting in the hard work it's the people that are pointing cameras at them yeah it's the dumbest [ __ ] thing of all time so the enhanced games is like let's throw out the drug testing let's encourage people to do whatever the [ __ ] that works and let's give them a lot of money so like whoever wins whatever they give them a million dollars yeah and then you'll get like the

elite athletes will be like well why am I wasting my time competing for free maybe I blow out an ACL or herniate a disc and my career is over and I don't have [ __ ] to show for it or or I can do steroids and then win and and have money for the rest of my life yeah I want to watch the steroid Sports of course you know what I mean the enhanced League or whatever it's called like that sounds to me like the NFL is going away yeah I want to see the mountain

hit another Mountain you know what I mean like go imagine if they just got they told the NFL it's just like everybody get juicy [ __ ] those guys are already freaks they're already doing it like probably you know what I mean I I only imagine I don't know my two cents is like you're doing it anyway just [ __ ] go with it the way I understand they allow they let them know when testing is happening and so then everybody why waste the [ __ ] money you know what I mean like phone it

in let's just phone that in you know what I mean like yo I took that drug test Okay click save some money for everybody the drug test should be multiple choice that's we'll fill it out no nothing yeah the the drug test should be we're just kind of curious if You' had any success and we want to know what works so we can recomend better stuff to people right but weird thing about you know protecting the athletes Health like hey [ __ ] face they're playing football if you really cared about their health you would

tell them don't play football so true there's no way you care about their health there's no [ __ ] way you know it just doesn't make any sense I mean there's inherent nature is a danger there concussions knees shoulders right everything gets blown out how about vaccines how about you making them get vac and they're having [ __ ] heart attacks on the field does that make any sense no you don't care about their health you're full of [ __ ] those guys didn't have to worry for a second about covid they're Elite athletes of

the highest order do you really think that something that is literally only kills like 0.03% of the people who get it and those people or most of them have comorbidities you really think Elite athletes of the highest order had to worry about that of course they didn't it's all [ __ ] you don't care about them yeah let them get juicy yeah [ __ ] Juice It Up boys get that gear you know what I mean hey let's take those piss cups and turn them into [ __ ] drink cups and serve them some whiskey

in the locker room let's get this [ __ ] going and I want more fighting in my sports you know what I mean that's why I like hockey yeah the last sport that allows fist fights normally in the middle of a sport it's the only sport that allows the occasional fist fight yeah which is kind of crazy I live in North Carolina and there's a there's like a little local hockey team brag and like every I go to a lot of hockey games cuz it's like it was like seven bucks for like a long time

you know what I mean uh and they'll [ __ ] blood on the ice on the Thanksgiving day you know they'll throw like a they'll they'll have like a non-league team come in and it's [ __ ] blood on the ice man these like the southern provisional Hockey League like I love this hockey it's just wild that that's the only sport where fist fighting is allowed yeah it's kind of crazy cuz it's grandfathered in yeah because it's basically bare knuckle boxing in the middle of a sport yeah which is real weird yeah well then you

got soccer where like you know you rubbed elbows with the guy and he falls over and you're like what the [ __ ] you're faking it like I have children I know the faker like what the [ __ ] like I'm a parent you can't fool me ex well anybody can see it's the dumbest thing like a hand their face yeah they fall on the ground they fall down and they're [ __ ] holding their side they're holding their chest it's so dumb but it's also one of the reasons why it's not really accepted in

America watch that flopping like come on get up this is so crazy yeah I totally agree man especially when people watch football you're watching guys get [ __ ] way laid by a 300 lb super athlete they get up and shake it off and then they're right back on the field yeah the guy like adjust his helmet a little bit you know what I mean takes his mouthpiece out you all right go [ __ ] move on I just started watching football literally this last year and you know when I see guys Collide I [

__ ] I I've had so many injuries knee surgery and [ __ ] and Jiu-Jitsu injuries I see guys get hit I just like [ __ ] hold my knees I hold my back like oh it's the most brutal [ __ ] of all time a guy who 290 lbs is running full blast and colliding with you with 100% of his strength yeah yeah it's [ __ ] crazy man I used to uh when I was 38 I was a sar major in the Army and like I don't know hand to hand Jiu-Jitsu kind of

got boring for me so like I was looking for other Hobbies I was at the PX and I seen like the Fort Brag rugby team practices like Tuesday at 600 or something so I just went out there for something to do man and I'm going to tell you you think [ __ ] Jiu-Jitsu [ __ ] people up [ __ ] go play [ __ ] rugby matter of fact stay the [ __ ] away from rugby like it's [ __ ] brutal and like no helmets no nothing man and like uh when I was

a kid I don't know if I can say this but we played smear the queer all the time like I don't know what you call that but that's what it's just called when we were kids I come home my shirt would be ripped I'd get another beating cuz like you ripped another shirt these are expensive you know what I mean but like it's my brother's anyway right like not like you bought me a shirt uh but uh man it was like crazy my first practice like the ball sitting there and one of the coaches like

grab the ball and run I just [ __ ] grabbed a ball and just ran every one of these little [ __ ] over and then uh like guys are like man what college you play in I was like uh uh none and I never played a rugby a day in my you know my first game you know was like [ __ ] in my third practice you know what I mean crazy but in in doing Jiu-Jitsu and fighting people in Iraq every night like I thought rugby was kind of easy the guy's running at

me and I just got to take him down [ __ ] double legs and then I started getting more tackles than anyone in my coach you know they keep stats and be like you had like 80 tackles a game how do you do that and it's like double double double leg Tak Down single leg maybe a trip yeah you know what I mean and but uh and then like uh one of the times you know one of the coaches was like hey will you teach us how you know how would you how do you normally

tackle you get the most tackles and like double single legs so you basically teach them wrestling I just taught wrestling mod why don't they teach them that they would seem to be like I bet the I bet the pro level [ __ ] are doing that [ __ ] like have to you I mean cuz think about this like um I know a lot of linemen um do like Cali for hand speed and stuff like that what I mean right cuz they got they got to win the hand fight so I know there's a lot

of sports that use a lot of discipline so I would imagine they would have to be [ __ ] having you know wrestling practice or takeown tackle practice right I would imagine they're doing same [ __ ] as everyone else for just understanding leverage and how to manipulate a body right yeah right well there's no pads so you know you can't come 30 m an hour into this tackle you might have to come in at 10 m an hour you know what I mean cuz you got no pads right you know well that's the argument

against pads in football is that these guys the only reason why they can play the way they are and collide with each other full blast because they have helmets and pads on which is totally true I want thicker helmets and more collisions let's go like come on it would be a wild game if you had American football and no pads I mean that's what they used to do way back they had those little leather head helmet like you couldn't pay me to wear one of those get the [ __ ] out of here with that

I wonder how many guys died playing that uh imagine how many concussions oh how many head-to-head collisions running full blast and then you know if you're Samoan you're like some big giant dude you're gonna go head-to-head with guys because you know you're going to win it yeah [ __ ] every time man so you're just [ __ ] headbutting everybody yeah the the Army team has a lot of tongin there's Fort Bragg tongin are paratroopers as people I don't know how that works but they are man they all play rugby a buddy of mine was

like I was like you know you how you know when when did you start playing rugby he was like I was like three you know huge guy like I knew like I knew I was doing pretty good at rugby when the Tongans were like we'd pick they'd pick teams and all the tongin would be like we want Big John you can have the rest and I'd be like yeah me and the tongin get some right we'll [ __ ] crush the people but like they start playing with like a coconut Jesus imagine holding a coconut

and just going down ribs on a coconut like and I'm like why would you play with a coconut and he was like well there was only one rugby ball on the island and the bigger boys had it like Jesus okay like yeah but um yeah I played rugby for a while and I stopped doing MMA to play rugby but what I realized is Rugby's way more injury prone and dangerous so I kind of went back to Jiu-Jitsu oh yeah one-on-one is definitely you can control a lot more of what's going on than a bunch of

dudes yeah colliding into each other yeah I agree man hard [ __ ] sport I know Rugby's awesome it is awesome it's weird how it never took off in America it's kind of strange you know because we love violence you would imagine that rugby would be something that we would have adopted I I think the only reason it's not popular is because of the time like it's like soccer once it starts it doesn't stop Americans want to go take a piss and get another beer and come back and then they want you commercials yeah that's

the big thing about soccer and the game never tough to sell commercials you can't stop the game right whereas football you have a [ __ ] you have half time bro you got a whole half hour well you ever see the apps that just show you the plays of football a whole game's like 12 minutes of actual work you know what I mean 10 minutes you know what I mean soccer this [ __ ] are running the entire 80 minutes let's go and it doesn't stop you know you have to be in insane shape to

play soccer the cardio is just nuts you're basically sprinting for the entire game yeah I never played soccer but and I don't think I would enjoy it well we went to watch they the they have a professional League here in Austin and these dudes have these [ __ ] quarter horse legs yeah they like thin upper bodies and these [ __ ] giganti legs cuz they're just constantly doing Plyometrics they're just constantly sprinting and going side the side of left and right and [ __ ] crazy cardio but it's never going to sell in America

if you can't have commercials yeah I think that's why rugby is not popular also yeah I mean that makes sense maybe they just change the rules a little bit right you know okay give us a little break kind of crazy yeah here's what we're saying is rugby starts and stops without a time that's the same thing we want you just said for MMA oh yeah right well that's the problem with MMA too right you can't have a no time limit fight because how you going to get the next fight at midnight or 10 o00 also

dudes would kind of fight to the death like if you get the best of the best today where they're so evenly matched and they're brawling for an hour go four hours five hours like and then end your career like at the end of it you might not ever be the same again he'd be spent like you got one of those in you right cuz there's a lot of guys like there's a fight and you could point to that fight and say he was never the same like Tony Ferguson Justin gatei a lot of people point

to that fight Justin gatei battered Tony Ferguson so bad he was he was undefeated up until that or maybe lost a couple of times but he was the boogeyman Tony Ferguson was the scariest dude in the sport and then one bad beating and he was kind of never the same same again cuz one bad beating just changes everything yeah you just never really recover yeah well once you Lage the mental Edge right like there's a little bit of that but there's also like a bad beating to the brain like he got just he got hit

so many times in his head a bad beating to the brain after a certain I mean no matter who you are if you're sparring and if you're fighting you're getting hit in the head period And so over the course of your career you're already accumulating a certain amount of abuse and there's one fight that could break the camels back yeah like in boxing I always point to meldrick Taylor Julio Cesar Chavez like meldrick Taylor was the [ __ ] man won the gold medal in the Olympics and Chavez just methodically broke him down and then

stopped him in the last round of their fight like literally at two seconds to go Richard steel stops the fight and from then on he was never the same it just he took so much of a beating in that fight that he was NE never the same again yeah I think that happens with soldiers too seen a lot of guys were like we got mortared or rocketed and then next deployment guy doesn't want to you know what I mean thing yeah I think there's a there's a time where everybody says enough's enough right like yeah

whether you want to or not and then once you reach that point like coming back from that point to become that mental Champion again it's a [ __ ] long road is there anything like you as a leader when you see a guy who's maybe cross over in that way is there anything that you would do to try to bring them back or is there nothing that can be done that's a great question uh Define bring him back Define what's wrong with him right I guess a confidence thing or just being terrified like new fear

being introdu you know a lot of guys think they're indestructible until they're not and then all a sudden now this is a new Factor yeah uh I used to teach uh tandem jumping and bundle jumping in the military and I don't know if you ever seen my social media but like I'm in the sky flying and there's that huge Barrel under me uh I used to teach that and what would happen is if you had a bad jump a you know bundle jump um you would have to cut away and uh we called it the

nightmare right and you got to end the Nightmare and this thing starts spinning you out of control it'll be so many G's that like you'll pass out the parachute will open later right you'll be fine uh but we used to tell guys right like [ __ ] end that nightmare make sense now you're the captain of the ship so a guy would have to end this nightmare however he ended the nightmare right uh and then what would happen is afterwards we'd review the video and I'd have to show a guy right and then we'd leave

him in the classroom for a minute and we'd tell him hey gather your emotions whatever you need to do and then get on the next plane get right back on the horse get [ __ ] back on that next plane plan yeah you know what I mean and uh guys would do that you know what I mean uh a lot more seals needed that time than like unit guys cuz unit guys like yo I'll fly this [ __ ] up your ass we ain't G to have no problems today son you know what I mean

I'm um I don't know I think the difference is that look the unit is always more mature than seals it's an older culture it's older guys uh more experienced guys more methodical guys more planned out um so like in a a lot of times like you know younger guys normally the seals they'll have their jump numbers but they're like the their core they what makes you you confidence dexterity strength [ __ ] Health it ain't there yet and they kind of freak out once in a while younger guys it's a maturity thing I think normally

happens to the seals most guys are pretty mature and have been through so much [ __ ] by the time they get to the unit that like you're probably unshakable by then but um you see that in fights too like young undefeated guys who fight like a world champion who's like in their 30s and that guy breaks them down and then you see like they don't know what to do when things are going sideways and then mentally they fall apart yeah yeah yeah that's right uh that's when the bad decisions will start you know what

I mean and the reality is you got to snap your [ __ ] self out of that you got to [ __ ] put your parachute back on and get the [ __ ] back on that airplane I had plenty of those jumps I've cut away more [ __ ] I had a cutaway training for D-Day last year [ __ ] put my cut away you can see how [ __ ] low I am and everything you know what I mean uh and I have procedures I have another parachute like we're all going to die

am I going to let it ruin my day kind of thing like let's [ __ ] move on you know what I mean but how did you develop that mentality just over time I think that comes with what I just said is the core of a person and I think this what the Army is really good at is developing this core right in this core in this core right how do I develop your confidence well I don't [ __ ] know I I couldn't even Define [ __ ] confidence because I went to the Chicago

public [ __ ] school system but I could tell you this if I taught you to rally race car drive and you got pretty [ __ ] good at it if I taught you jiujitsu eventually you're pretty [ __ ] good at it I show you skydiving eventually you're pretty [ __ ] good at it right why is because every one of these things I showed you world class level and we brought world champions in to show you right eventually you're going to gain confidence it's the taking your daughter to carate or little kids the

Jiu-Jitsu they have confidence that other kids don't have right that's what you got to build so it takes a lot of different skills and getting guys good at a lot of different skills to build that [ __ ] unshakeable core you know what I'm saying yeah yeah and it's it's a matter of when do you introduce them to like extreme adversity do you build them up slowly like right right and it it has to be built slowly right and then we used to say this like um uh aircraft training right let's say you got to

breach an airplane right and you got to climb a [ __ ] 20 foot ladder cuz these [ __ ] ain't low to the ground right and you're hanging on a ladder and you weigh [ __ ] 200 [ __ ] 80 lbs in your [ __ ] but you're on these [ __ ] lanners with [ __ ] six other guys who all weigh the same as you or more you got to crack the door get the [ __ ] in this airplane right now let's just say this is your first time and you

crack that door the first time and as an instructor I know you're cracking the door and as soon as you crack that door I [ __ ] shoot you in the face you know what I mean yeah and with the training round right how [ __ ] embarrassing right and then the reality is is yo you just move ruined this [ __ ] forever how do you breach an airplane what's the what's a successful protocol for breaching an airplane mechanical or explosive what do you mean sometimes we open doors sometimes we blow doors it depends

so which one you want to know about okay let's go with mechanical uh yeah most most doors have a lever on the outside that that can be activated and most doors there's a certain way they open right my team I was always kind of like a primary door guy uh and then there's a certain way doors open there's latches so all airplane doors open from the outside so but once you breach it though you're in a tube you're in Tu and everybody knows where the door is it's a very vulnerable position yes so what's the

protocol for breaching a door when you're in a tube like that so what you have to do is breach as many doors as possible and get as many people in as possible as quick as possible and everyone goes to positions right you got cover guys you got Runners you got Searchers there's a lot of [ __ ] that needs to go on on these [ __ ] aircraft same with a [ __ ] big Cruise liner right so um everybody's going to once the door is open everyone's going to flood in and kind of like

go to their places you know what I'm saying MH right so you plan it out you know where you're going to be and then you're still dealing with the chaos of you're in a tube and there's only one way in yeah and things are coming at you no matter what yeah yeah yeah so there's no clean way to do that not even once not even once no [ __ ] no man you know what I mean what a crazy [ __ ] task I know but the back to the point is if a guy cracks

that door any door let's say it's your first time I'm showing you like all right Joe I'm going to show you some you know Close Quarter battle I'm going to show you how I clear a door and then just joking around like you're about to go through a door and I shot you in the [ __ ] forehead you would mentally never want to go through that door again right so I have to build you up to where well the first time you come through the door well I just let you come through the door

right and then it builds from there got it and then there's a point where it's like this [ __ ] shooting through the crack of the airplane wait till I'm in this [ __ ] [ __ ] I got two pistol on me this motherfucker's going down you know what I'm saying yeah uh so as your as your confidence your core that core of a human being like that core of an operator right as that like becomes [ __ ] concrete a guy is just unshakable like let's go I don't give a [ __ ]

what this position I don't care like I don't care if I [ __ ] die let's do this you know and it's consistent training over and over and over again and over and over do you think that this is what's missing in the police force oh man I kidding me first off I work at a lot of police departments I love police I support police all the time um it's a [ __ ] thankless job I'll say that yeah uh but I would say like think about this Joe if you trained police better right I

work at a lot of police acmis I've helped a lot of police acmis they don't fail people anymore I show them what I do I train them to do what I do they have great success with it I would say this in a police academy let's say it's 6 months long whatever they do D I don't [ __ ] know probably about 4 months of that is [ __ ] paperwork and then you know you get a little hand to hand you get a little driving you get a little shooting and then you learn what

yeah but I'm going to tell you this as a cop you got the rest of your life to do that paperwork and when you're in training right as soon as you like get your first arrest your training officer is going to be like don't write it that way hold on let me see your paperwork like this uh-huh the paperwork could be OJT and they could spend them time right training these guys and if now I'd also say this is if police were trained better and truly uniform officers are probably the only guys like stopping crime

as it happens if we train those guys better why would we need SWAT teams right you would have SWAT teams through the whole thing all be SWAT everyone could be SWAT and if got and 10 of us come together we're our own SWAT team we don't and then we could operate independently we could operate one or two and like uh I think police don't do the force multiplier thing like each guy is his own [ __ ] Bastion of the law you know what I mean like I I just think they kind of share injuries

they don't do hand to hand right shooting could be dangerous right and the most shooting is you know the instructor is God and you are are [ __ ] stupid that's how most training is it's like basic training and like no one learns well like that either you know what I mean right yeah I I'm always shocked when I see fat cops like really fat cops and I'm was like how how your whole life is your body like your whole life is you have to be able to physically defend yourself you have weapons you have

you know the the law and the uniform and bulletproof vest and all that but you your your physical body is almost useless yeah I I was at a football game the other day and there's this like obese cop like enormous belly I was like this is disgusting it's ridiculous yeah you've let yourself get to this point where I know you can't even run you can't you can't you can't last 30 seconds all someone have to do is grab a hold of your arm that you would use to take your gun and control that arm get

you to the ground and you're [ __ ] [ __ ] I just baseball collar the back of their [ __ ] collar of their shirt where the [ __ ] are you going you know what I mean it's crazy um yeah look okay first off I think also police should have different jobs like the army so okay if you were 400 lb maybe you're the computer guy at the police force or a desk guy or uh you know what I mean like I don't think everyone needs to be the fittest human being ever however

if you're on patrol get the young six-foot kids in there man you know what I mean they can handle themselves they're young they're bigger than normal right this is why a lot of Troopers state troopers used to have like a 6 foot 61 6-2 height requirement because a 6'2 man can generally handle most people right you know what I mean especially a fit one who's trained yeah so I think the fit guys need to be on the force I think I think there's room for everybody but I think with police is you're police officer or

you're a detective and then that's it but really you're a cop like well the Army right okay there's drone Pilots there's all these Army jobs that kick the Infantry kids out the door right why don't police kind of organize like that and that way like the guys are going to run people down can run that's what drives me crazy about this whole defund the police horse [ __ ] like are you [ __ ] crazy you should be funding them more [ __ ] crime is real yeah it's real Evil's real Evil's [ __ ]

real yeah yeah to pretend it's not well just means you haven't experienced it yeah you're living with blinders on yeah yeah I say I agree yeah it's just bizarre that we expect these people to encounter danger and evil all day long their whole lives like 25 30 years I I know and you know you don't you don't train them properly you don't fund them properly and then they get disrespected by the public oh that's the worst well the worst I think the worst is when like the mayor or the police [ __ ] chief is

like not supportive of all of the [ __ ] guys and it's like you think the guys have bad intent you know what I mean I get it there might be bad apples or whatever everyone's got 10% say what you want but like how about KLA Harris when she was running for president she was all about defund the police I I don't know how that sells with anybody 2019 2020 it's [ __ ] crazy it's a crazy thing to say it really is a crazy thing to say yeah yeah I mean if we defunded the

police we'd be Mexico quicker than we thought yeah right right because the cartels would just drive over the Border yeah that's real yeah yeah what do you think about this idea of using Special Forces guys to fight the cartels uh this is first and foros like if you were like yo we're going to wipe out a cartel tonight I'd have been like I'll load my frags extra careful like let's go right but the reality is is like uh I know all my buddies are like yeah we'll [ __ ] them up in a night we'll

[ __ ] yo yo [ __ ] let's back up a [ __ ] second here the cartels have [ __ ] men they own the ground they have [ __ ] technicals they have machine guns they have [ __ ] everything an army has right and they've had decades to train waiting for this number two and number three our government's [ __ ] compromis so if you think they ain't going to know you're coming you know what I mean I think you're [ __ ] high Jesus Christ that's a terrial terrifying thought the government's

so compromised the cartel is going to get the word out before well how are we going to how look we're not good at being [ __ ] sneaky we're not the Israelis doing that [ __ ] pager [ __ ] you know saying was wild yo that needs to be the model for every [ __ ] thing we do in the future no matter what you think about the Israelis what's going on in Gaza that paser [ __ ] was wild which tells me America should go back to making its own [ __ ] cell

phones and it's oh we shouldn't have our [ __ ] comms made overseas at all in any way shape or form in my opinion at all no I've been saying that forever we should have our own cell phones [ __ ] and the fact that we're buying so much [ __ ] from China [ __ ] especially after they banned Huawei because they know that Huawei stuff was compromise and they're having third party input and be able to spy on people it's [ __ ] crazy well this is why we got to go back to

making America like it used to be we made our own [ __ ] we use our own [ __ ] we wouldn't have to worry about none of this yeah it's um it's a very strange thing what's happening in this country where China is allowed to buy land that's near military bases they Supply cell phone towers they they put all these different they sell us all this different [ __ ] and we don't really know I mean I don't know how many experts are investigating these [ __ ] cell phone towers [ __ ] zero

I bet [ __ ] zero Mike Baker was on here and he was telling me about how around military bases like China has installed their equipment and all these military bases like at Formula 1 where we were my buddy owns the track and they found these Chinese boxes they had attached to the Wi-Fi so they were just scooping up everybody's data they called in homeland security to have them remove it and investigate it [ __ ] racetrack a racetrack but but they knew everybody was going to be using this public Wi-Fi probably no vpns probably

no security and these people are getting their all their [ __ ] siphoned up [ __ ] they're so sophisticated and how they've infiltrated it's [ __ ] crazy and we just allow it to happen it's very strange cuz you can't buy [ __ ] in China if you think you're an American company going to go over to China and operate with autonomy you're out of your [ __ ] mind you can't buy [ __ ] yeah they don't they'll never let an American no they don't want a Chinese would never buy communication devices from

America no and they certainly never let America buy Farmland right next to their military bases they like [ __ ] you we're like sure we'll sell it to you are you going to pay more oh boy we'll take your money [ __ ] it's weird it's weird how goofy we are I know and then like well I think it's this Joe I think people don't realize how [ __ ] dangerous the rest of the world is and how like people are like plotting against us and it's [ __ ] real out there the world is

a crazy place I say this like you don't know how [ __ ] safe you got it here and how [ __ ] great we got it here here you know what I mean like people don't know that cuz they don't never leave here so they're stuck in their own [ __ ] bad attitude of like their own grind or whatever the [ __ ] they do and like look I'm telling you the world is [ __ ] evil people will [ __ ] rape you kill you no one gives a [ __ ] like

protect yourself all the time well you've been to parts of the world where you've seen this firsthand and I think it's one of those things where if you don't see it you don't believe it yeah I'll tell you one of the I think the biggest thing I saw in Iraq I think in maybe 2009 is uh there was like the most [ __ ] US soldiers ever been in Iraq right like whatever the numbers are I don't [ __ ] know right but uh when Iraq had the most [ __ ] soldiers it has ever

had in Iraq is when Iraq was the safest think about it you know what I mean all we had to do was flood put a [ __ ] tank under every [ __ ] overpass in every [ __ ] neighborhood there's a machine gun and [ __ ] 50 calvey right like who's [ __ ] around they're everywhere and that's the safest Iraq ever was I'm telling you we have that here and people don't understand that in general so if you want to defund the police [ __ ] man we're [ __ ] you know

what I mean yeah like it's it's a crazy but you know um do you know Evan Evan haer yes yeah Evan was uh we were in Elk camp and he was explaining uh some of the [ __ ] that he saw when he went from Iraq to Afghanistan and just how he's like Afghanistan is so [ __ ] that you can't even comprehend it until you're there yeah he goes once you're there and you see it and you understand it you you become so cynical you almost like this culture is like unfixable and he's like

most people just don't know that a place like that exists that's so just down to its core so [ __ ] and we was talking about how these guys have these boys that they have as their their herum the number nine boy what's that it's what the Egyptian special forces called them the number nine boy he's the boy that gets [ __ ] why number nine I don't know that's what the Egyptian special forces called but every Afghanistan Village had a [ __ ] what do they call it the chogi boy or [ __ ]

something like that but basically the 12-year-old that gets raped and he was saying these guys have harms and they would parade them down the street to show they have the most boys yeah this was this happened to me on my so I did a solo mission in Afghanistan the book kill Bin Laden you ever hear of it yeah uh I brought a hardback for you I sign it for if you want but it's hard to get a hard back it's like it's like it's got Library [ __ ] in it I had to buy it

cuz like people always ask me to sign it I didn't write the book I'm just in it um and uh people always ask me for a signature on it right so I bought like I don't know family or friend someone want one I bought like a lot from a library they didn't use them no more cuz they don't sell the hard back no more but I went out on a mission alone in Afghanistan I was gone 10 days first I think first successful mission of the War uh my opinion I don't know I don't know

if there's other missions were more successful than mine but um so uh I went out alone and then I do the Recon I have the footage I need I have every [ __ ] thing I need to launch a raid we I'm alone we stop I'm in a [ __ ] jingly truck right like I [ __ ] and just I'm in this truck I hitchhiked basically from galal Abad into the toror mountains I'm in a jingly truck with this [ __ ] driver what's a jingly truck you know where they like it's like a

[ __ ] like a six wheel like dump truck but like they hang the chains and bells and they paint it like 17 different bright colors and they they you never seen a jing yeah [ __ ] jingly truck cuz it [ __ ] Jingles man yeah what the [ __ ] is that yeah so I'm in one of these [ __ ] with this [ __ ] right uh he's like a logger he's he runs the valley he's always in the area um but like I don't know any of this [ __ ] I

can't even talk to the guy I don't [ __ ] speak [ __ ] you know what I mean um and then like it's [ __ ] dangerous I had to go through checkpoints I had to act like a [ __ ] uh to get through a [ __ ] checkpoint what did you do man I was at a [ __ ] checkpoint and the dude was like there's this [ __ ] the checkpoint points in Afghanistan a [ __ ] sketch uh you know they got like one piece of yarn across the road you

better [ __ ] stop or you will be shot they don't give a [ __ ] about you and like so the car in front of us I think the [ __ ] like this dude like stole bread from a little kid you know what I mean little kid was eating a piece of bread just snatched it out of the [ __ ] car yelled at the people I thought he was going to Shack him because they didn't have anything to give him that he wanted so I'm in this jingly truck comes next [ __

] AK and the just [ __ ] I don't know what the [ __ ] he's saying right but I know if I speak English I'm dead so not an option um so uh he's like yelling at me right and then finally I just figured I'm going to do like volume level 12 and just [ __ ] yell in his face right so I just get super close to his face which he didn't like and I'm like no no no and the guy's like what the [ __ ] and then like backed up and then

motion like motion like get the [ __ ] through here with the AK wow yeah so what you just on the spot divis that another one I had a I picked up like a dirty towel or blanket off the floor and they took that right but what I learned being out alone one of the things I learned is you know you like you watch the movies and like they pull out a water of cash and they're like ah wink get me across the border there friend these [ __ ] just shoot you in the face

and take everything you got don't whip that [ __ ] out you're going to get murdered they're just going to take it all I mean they'll steal bread from a [ __ ] kid you think they give a [ __ ] about your life you know what I mean and they just [ __ ] throw you on the side of the road and let you rot like they don't even care about the smell like so like uh yeah I had to act like a [ __ ] through this one man they don't give a [

__ ] man they don't give a [ __ ] to figure that out on the spot on the spot yeah so uh we get I get in the truck we do the Recon I like had a literally I had a cigarette bag I think it's like Kent or some [ __ ] I don't [ __ ] smoke but like Kent cigarettes I had a plastic bag with my [ __ ] sat phone and um anyway had to get a camera out get it under my arm and I kind of film the house right USI on

um and then I had to get the footage back so we get to the end of the valley it's [ __ ] dark you know there no way we can get out of the valley before light so uh we stop at this house the driver's like you know motion Us in right it's the Muslim right of they can't turn you away right so we go to this house we're in the room bunch of old [ __ ] grumpy men they don't [ __ ] like me at all uh and the driver and the driver I

guess goes there and crashes all the time when he's in the valley right so this is normal for him to be here uh and then so in that room they had like this boy and they [ __ ] drug him into another room and you could hear yelling and [ __ ] and I just like what the [ __ ] do you do I have everything I need to pull off the first successful mission in Afghanistan for the American government okay do I save this kid and compromise my mission or do I just get the

[ __ ] out of here and pull this [ __ ] off and the reality is I had to look the other way and I didn't like it but so uh I took my speed you know they give you speed I took my speed stayed up everyone went to bed they fed me dark opium tea they tried to put me down that's why drank the tea anyway knowing it was spiked uh and then I took my speed to kind of counteract it and then everyone went to bed I laid there just wide awake I just

laid there Wide Awake like I [ __ ] shut an eye these [ __ ] are going to cut my dick off and stick it in my mouth cuz that's seems like what they like to do uh and then uh finally the middle of the night I [ __ ] [ __ ] got my AK I stuck it in the driver's face I drug him out to the truck like right before Sun up and we [ __ ] left the valley but like you know compromise the mission or save the kid what do you want

what's it going to be man and then like you just see this all over the place so you you were like one of the first guys to do these Singleton missions yeah yeah so when when they set you off to do something like that like what's the protocol like how do they how do they even good luck you know what I mean I don't know like what what do you what do they say to you uh well back then it was that guy Dalton Fury right the guy who wrote kill Bin Laden was my commander

and uh okay it's a long story I wrote I'm writing a book it's finished maybe someone would want to publish it but it's called the Singleton and it's about my going out alone um but I was like they see I was I was at my base I was in aabad and we were just getting rocketed and mortared every day it's kind of like mortar bait whatever uh and then uh we had like [ __ ] zero lickies and chewies no [ __ ] candy no beef jerky no [ __ ] poptarts no [ __ ]

nothing right and we're just sucking it up and like I got to eat [ __ ] these Afghan [ __ ] cook us food and like I'm eating vegetables I don't even know what the [ __ ] that vegetable was I don't even recognize it as a vegetable you know what I mean yeah I know that's [ __ ] goat cuz it tastes horrible but I don't know what the [ __ ] I don't even know what the [ __ ] they cook me you know what I mean it's like anyway so I go to

my boss and I'm like yo hey I want to [ __ ] go to the main base right and steal pogy from the [ __ ] chow hall what's pogy pogy bait is a term for like beef jerky snacks candy cookies like any kind of like snack food right so and uh my boss is like yeah if you you schedule the airplanes you make all the coordinations you can go I was like [ __ ] bet man I [ __ ] scheduled the helicopter like [ __ ] you don't know how resourceful I can be

you know what I mean so uh I scheduled everything for the next night and then like I I drove my I had a red Toyota truck I drove my Toyota truck in the back of the shinook right so tight in there you can't even get out you got to just sit there hope you ain't got to piss they fly me to the main base [ __ ] Land Drive in the main base like by this time like the arm's like taking over where like you got to like [ __ ] salute on [ __ ]

the army base in Afghanistan like two weeks ago like a [ __ ] SAS guy lost a leg a land mine you know but um so I go to the base and then the the commander sees me and and he's with his son major another guy and they're like this is our [ __ ] guy right here so they're like hey what are you doing and I'm like about to raid the chow hall you like what the [ __ ] it look like I'm doing you know what I mean like if it's one thing I'm

honest right so uh I was like yeah I'm getting Pokey for the [ __ ] for our base like what's up and they're like hey we got a for you and I told him hey I'll do it right but uh you just got to tell my ask my boss if it's all right cuz I didn't work for these guys um and they're like okay cool they're in my Squadron but like not my direct boss right so they call my boss my boss says fine and like they sit me in this room and they're like hey

we want you to go out alone and I'm like okay and they're like explain everything to me we want you to go out alone like do you have any questions and I was like my my only question was and it wasn't a question I looked the commander in the eye and I said tell me you're going to cover my ass if something goes wrong and he was like uh oh yeah we'll cover you like yo you could have gave a [ __ ] better man up with that answer you know what I mean like you

know what I mean he gives this like weak answer and I'm just thinking well [ __ ] man you know what I mean now so what were they telling you they wanted you to do go out alone USI on get footage of this guy at his house so we could launch right because the generals back then weren't in line with Bush's dead or alive and they were I believe the Pentagon was a bigger hindrance in the beginning of the war than they were [ __ ] than they were worth uh but um how so well

uh the general at the time that was in charge of us our task force right and we're talking about tier one like the guy in charge then had like two rules number one you can leave the wire if you get USIS on a Target okay okay and number two no one leaves the wire well how the [ __ ] are we going to do number one without if we can't leave figure it out so the commander I was in because I was when when you say leave the wire what do you mean exactly like go

out hunting for bad guys leave your base you know what I'm saying go out and com but you can't leave your base but you can't leave the base but you got to get these eyes on to launch a Target so you got to get your recon guys out there doing reconnaissance cuz we need these reconnaissance and US eyes on to hit these targets okay we want to launch Rec carence yeah no one leaves a wire that's kind of how it worked man right so uh the reason they used me is according to the Army the

Army at every level is great at accountability 100% we need to know where everyone is at all times right so when I flew to the other base I was in transit right so they left me in transit for a week so instead of saying I left the wire I was just in transit because I was in transit anyway to go get Pop-Tarts wow so they lied to everybody left me my step and I didn't know this at the time I'm like like this could have mattered less to me I learned later you know but uh

they paperwork nutshell the general and sent out reconnaissance and that was me wow and then they came back with the eyes on and the general agreed to launch the mission and it was a success and no one asked how did [ __ ] did someone leave the wire cuz no one cared because we were successful you know what I mean wow so what are you thinking when you're out there doing this like what what is going through your head when you agree to do this [ __ ] figure it the [ __ ] out I

don't [ __ ] know I'm not trying to have anything in my head right now that's what's crazy is like they just let you figure it out yeah so you have to feel very vulnerable um I don't know I wouldn't say vulnerable Joe but uh I do think this is like there's guys that like [ __ ] make it happen you probably got guys like this any task you give a guy is just like wait you're done with that already like some people can just make [ __ ] happen and then I'm one of those

guys it's like my one of my better qualities make it happen so like [ __ ] go make it happen [ __ ] go act like a [ __ ] when you get pulled over hey man do what you got to do baby like [ __ ] survival of the fittest so the problem is once you do one of these now you're the guy that can go do these things yeah and I did hundreds in Iraq and [ __ ] loved it Jesus Christ yeah you loved it loved it love being alone man I love

it [ __ ] that yo you you okay think about this Joe and and you do Jiu-Jitsu when you fight right you want to depend on yourself or you want to depend on yourself and people you don't know what the [ __ ] they're made of who the [ __ ] are you going to trust going to trust yourself right so I it wasn't really a big stretch for me to be alone you know what I'm saying yeah I do but it's still a very unusual mindset um yeah maybe I don't know and then my

my other mindset is like no matter where I am no matter what I do everyone in a 25 yard radius is going to [ __ ] die just so I can make it home and if I had to kill everyone in the whole village godamn right everyone in that [ __ ] Village would be dead for me to come home so uh I just figured yo [ __ ] be ready to fight at all times I learned a 100 to one Lessons Learned Leadership Lessons 100 to one being alone versus being a pack of 30

[ __ ] right like yo let us come r this down your [ __ ] throat and we'll call it Tuesday you know what I mean where when I was alone like you got to make better decisions you're a [ __ ] coyote you're a ghost you know you got to make ghost decisions the [ __ ] you know the bravado like we're going to kill everybody the [ __ ] we are we're not going to fire a shot why because like you you fire one shot as a Singleton you better be ready to kill

everybody because gunshots is a [ __ ] dinner bell for psychos you know what I mean so are you ready you know what I mean and the reality is is like I had to think of other [ __ ] do other [ __ ] I had to act like a [ __ ] you know and then I had to get along with people I had to had to do so much [ __ ] that is out of like even the Commando Norm as a Singleton you know uh I I think of no one that can

really teach you this [ __ ] I mean no like [ __ ] teach a guy how to breach an airplane right how the [ __ ] are you going to teach you guy to act like a [ __ ] if you get pulled over how you going to teach your guy to be a Singleton of these Miss well we used to tell guys and I used to tell my guys all the time and this is a unit thing but like I could train a monkey to shoot I'm training you to think I don't care

about the shooting because if you're thinking right the shooting will be easy you know what I'm saying yeah um but yeah man uh I I'll tell you I thought about riding a leadership but calling it The Singleton and just kind of the lessons I learned you know like so few guys have done that you know like I I see all these like you know I don't know I don't look at the internet I don't watch the news uh I don't do any of that I don't do social media I have it I don't [ __

] look at it I don't have it on my phone it's not worth my sanity um so I'm like a [ __ ] time capsule for [ __ ] the 2000s you know what I mean and like uh I never understood some of these other like veteran stories you know I never I never kind of look the Lone Survivor I never understood the full story cuz I went out alone all the time that [ __ ] didn't happen to me [ __ ] seven Taliban on my ass you want to see seven [ __ ]

bodies super quick you know what I'm saying bring them boys up here you know so I never really [ __ ] understood some of these other stories because I had such a different experience I can't fathom if I was with five you know the times I was with five guys you know how many people I I was with three guys you know how many people we killed in the Battle of Tor Bora [ __ ] hundreds I just stopped counting on my first day like so so having said that like I I don't understand some

of these stories because I had the experience I had you know what I'm saying it's a very unusual experience like how many guys were Singletons [ __ ] I don't know any you don't know any I mean a couple of my buddies but like not like me wow yeah and then once I did it it was kind of my lot in life how many pages is this book that you wrote uh I don't know like [ __ ] 20 chapters I wrote a big book it seems like it have to be 500 [ __ ]

p yeah can't wait to read that book Shameless plug if you know anybody who buys someone needs to buy that book 100% yeah we'll get that book sold all right we'll get that book sold 100% so that leads I need to read that book right now I'll give it to you I'll give I'll text it to you I okay I'll text it to you today for real I'll text it to you I'm done with it okay I think it's as good as I could get it and I'm just a reg I'm in Chicago Public School

System [ __ ] I didn't even take a book home because if the school loses the books they can't can't teach so it was like half half my class was in the book and the other half was homework and you left the books in class so like I didn't have homework you know well it's probably better because you're going to get it like from you with no gloss yeah no buit but which leads me to Iraq where I did hundreds of solo missions I was a taxi driver I had like I don't know [ __

] 30 50 vehicles in Iraq so once they realized you can do this yeah like oh call MC Fe yeah well no it's just kind of my thing like you don't have to call me just tell me what you need wow yeah I mean my bosses knew how to use me like that so you started enjoying the craziness of it I loved being alone why did you love it so much I don't know I hate to say this but like guys like me are generally [ __ ] [ __ ] like you've met a few

guys like me and they're like yeah I was afraid someone would get away like shut the [ __ ] up God damn it you know what I mean like so not really a fan of a lot of like alpha males they can be dicks at times MH so like uh yeah it kind of set me down my down my path is I just stayed away from the dicks and did my own thing you know what I mean right so you just had you had your mission and you enjoyed the fact that it was all up

to you and I didn't have to [ __ ] with no one else it's on my timeline [ __ ] and I will make this happen like I will make [ __ ] happen that other people can't I don't know how I don't know why but I just will that is such a wild experience like your experience in war must be so different than everybody else is just because of that yeah so having said that we're talking about Iraq I brought some show and tell items what' you bring I brought something I have never [

__ ] shown before what you got and I believe it's [ __ ] evil you want to see it yeah I do what is it I got I got to get it out of my box oh you got a box I brought a box I'm kind of scared what's that hey can you Google Saddam Hussein Mouser this is his hat yeah Jesus it's the one where he shoots the Mouser in the air at the [ __ ] parade grounds I was given that to byas Taylor wow yeah that one the liner fell out the liner's

in here look it's uh you can see what kind of hat it is the glue fell out of the liner but look wow that's [ __ ] crazy I rolled up his tailor and all his Butlers anybody who touched his ass fed him or touched his dick I [ __ ] rolled them [ __ ] up wow Saddam was captured nine days after I left I had a leave for Christmas this is crazy this was on his head now it's here yeah yeah yeah wow yeah but uh it's a Picadilly fox fur hat uh I

also have a sweater I took a I had all his clothes like me [ __ ] I had everything that guy on uh but uh yeah his tailor okay so saddam's Inner Circle right when when when I was working Saddam we were working a Saddam piece right some [ __ ] legendary hits that no one's ever [ __ ] talked about like we did the cleverest [ __ ] [ __ ] during Saddam and I will tell you this is I learned on my [ __ ] Singleton Mission Afghanistan the first one we need to

be a lot [ __ ] smarter if we want to crush these [ __ ] and I'm not talking like we captured two bad guys I'm talking we go in kill everyone needs to be killed capture everyone that needs to be captured and [ __ ] can do this right right so um yeah with the Saddam piece right um his tayor and his Butlers and saddam's Inner Circle was all Christians [ __ ] every one of them was a Christian and Saddam believed that Christians if they martyr themselves go to hell Muslims martyr themselves you

go to heaven right so he surrounded himself with [ __ ] Christians ah so his Taylor his Butlers his jaalas all those guys they're [ __ ] washing his ass feeding this [ __ ] we're all Christians and it's why Christians flourished in Iraq which they're you know like I I'd like to I'd hope all these guys are still alive but the reality is is like Isis probably [ __ ] got rid of them after Saddam was gone you know yeah Isis killed so many [ __ ] Christians you know what I'm saying yeah uh

but they were all Christians and uh so his uh I uh it started with um the ex Ambassador excuse me to the US and then uh I met the Taylor and started talking to the Taylor and then one day he brought this hat and he brought some clothes and I was like what was this and he was like you know he told me this is the one where he shot the Mouser uh and he had some clothes I grabbed a sweater uh I wear the sweater on Christmas Eve and then hey when I was when

I was fatter it's like it's like a [ __ ] halter top my Bell's my belly fats hanging out you know my family's like I don't know they think I'm nuts but uh I normally wear that sweater on Christmas I forgot to bring it or i' have brought it but wow um yeah now that I lost weight I think I'm actually Saddam size you know what I'm saying spooky you know what I'm saying I end up being same I could have wore all those clothes you know what I mean wow but uh yeah they were

Christians right and um we rolled up the Taylor uh the Taylor gave up a butler like I was me and another guy were at the Taylor's house right and we were going to snatch this guy right this Butler and the butler is the guy who used to wash Saddam like he bathed Saddam every [ __ ] day so Saddam had someone bathe him yeah he didn't B himself no crazy right yeah weird but he had a lot of lot of but they were all Christians and they were all honestly they were all [ __ ]

nice people to be fair like all the Christians were great people um anyway uh yeah so uh I'm in the house with another guy and the guy's early so we [ __ ] shoot up on the roof the guy comes I call my guys they're they're not really in place yet so uh he comes uh he leaves he only stays a minute and he's gone you know what I mean and these I think all these Inner Circle Saddam folks know they were valuable to us and and like they realized they were going to get snatched

at some time so he was like he was out right um I called my guys right and then uh literally my guys were like two blocks away as he was leaving he ran into their Humvee he ran into my guys and they're like hey this guy just ran into us and like this vehicle I'm like that's the dude so he got an accident with yeah he ran into our guys in a humby he was trying to drive away and like crashed into like the guys that were going to snatch him wow yeah I'll tell you

another s story this is this is my one of my favorites uh Saddam had like regular pieces of ass and like his favorite piece of ass was this butterface lady I don't know what she did for him but she wasn't a looker you know what I mean so like look and feel are different things Sadam knew what felt right to him obviously um and she was married and we wanted to get to her I mean maybe saddam's favorite sex partner would know where he is right like um so we have the Taylor the Taylor knows

who he is so we have the Taylor kind of invite him to the Taylor stop shop this Taylor had a store in downtown Baghdad so he comes in the store and uh I told my guys if he doesn't come out quick to uh I had a couple um I don't know what they're called now mohawk I think is what they call the Iraqi counterterror guys well before they were even established like the guys were with us you know so we had a couple of those guys um and uh I have them start fighting in front

of the store right so literally everyone piles on on the street to see these guys fighting right like everyone piles out of all the shops stores and everyone's watching these two guys fight literally the guy we're looking for like walks up to see the fight and his back is to the vanor are the guys that are going to snatch him wow so I call him like yo you see that tall guy that's our guy [ __ ] snatch him and no [ __ ] V door V door [ __ ] open nobody even knew where

the [ __ ] guy went the Taylor later was like where did he go did you take who took him where did this guy go where's this man at you know what I mean like no one even seen him get snatched right that's such a clever idea yeah have two guys fight in front so everybody's going to come out my boss was like who were those guys fighting I was like that's our boys and he was like wait did you do that and I was like I didn't want to be there for like six hours

like you know what I mean like how do we speed this up we got [ __ ] to do today like you know what I mean that's my efficiency is my thing like that's genius yeah that's one of the and we did so much hey all right I'll tell you another one my first Saddam hit uh I worked uh a lot of Intel side for Saddam me and a couple other guys so we worked somewhere not with our Squadron and we worked with another government agency make sense um so we get the call the squadron's

doing a hit there's a Saddam sighting right so this is like the beginning like 2003 Iraq we were [ __ ] Ken blocking it with [ __ ] Maps like hit the third traffic circle go out on the 9:00 like literally I get us to [ __ ] Ken blocking [ __ ] navigating through a [ __ ] shitty Baghdad [ __ ] street map I get us to the [ __ ] Target right uh Humvees are already there the rest of the guys are already there Rangers got the blocking positions all set up so

we get there we raid the house right we get all these guys and then finally there was like no [ __ ] [ __ ] yo there was like I don't know 15 [ __ ] it was like a Saddam lookalike [ __ ] contest they all had the mustache there's like short fat saddams there's like tall skinny sadams so it's like doubles well I don't know if it was body doubles just all looked like yeah because like the Saddam look was popular the mustache and I mean not that they all look the same but

they kind of all look the same you know from my perspective at the time right so like it was like well no wonder someone called this in it's [ __ ] like they all look like Saddam you know what I mean uh and then on the outside like [ __ ] man the Rangers shot up these vehicles at the blocking position i' have my squad my my son was like hey go [ __ ] clean up the bodies and I'm like why the [ __ ] am I on brains detail I didn't [ __ ]

shoot nobody today and he's like you're the only one with a regular pickup truck that could haul the bodies and I'm like [ __ ] already thought it through this is why this guy's the boss you know what I mean like and then uh a lesson learned that day is you know like in Iraq you just drink water out of bottles and then throw them in your truck man we were loading bodies in there's [ __ ] 100 water bottles in the back of the bed someone just come by the bed of the truck and

throw an empty water bottle in like at the house or whatever right and like I'm throwing bodies and [ __ ] [ __ ] in the back of my truck and there's like bloody water bottles squirting everywhere it's a [ __ ] mess man so uh I learned that day like my vehicles are always clean always [ __ ] clean man from that day on but like it's a [ __ ] mess and then man they shot up this [ __ ] this old man this old lady like they ran the checkpoint they were about

they were about to hit the Humvee with the Rangers so the Kid shot at the driver but like the kids didn't the Rangers back then didn't know as much as Rangers know now you know what I'm saying uh and the kid like shot the warning shots at the driver but he hit the brakes and the [ __ ] vehicle will never stop if you shoot the brakes if I don't know if you know that but uh and it [ __ ] hit the humy at like [ __ ] 40 mph broke the transmission I had

to clean up the bodies uh I had to set up an hlz take them later to the hlz you know what I mean and it was like my as my first Saddam raid in Iraq and it was my first uh experience in Iraq with the Rangers and like that day I was [ __ ] fed up with them you know like there's some young [ __ ] 18-year-old kid Medic in the back of the truck and like I'm like hey [ __ ] give these people morphine he's like I'm not supposed to give the enemy

morphine Sergeant you know what I mean I'm like yo does anyone look like a [ __ ] enemy to you here anyone fighting you in the back of the truck then there is no [ __ ] enemies here bud [ __ ] give these people some drugs so like at least we ain't got to [ __ ] hear them moan and [ __ ] you know what I mean and like the kid like I had to force him to like [ __ ] be Humane you know what I mean and cuz he was just trying

to follow orders later later they'd be so much better right but beginning of the war like my first that was my first Sadam hit you know what I mean and I was just thinking [ __ ] this is going to be awesome man that kid was shooting down the street with the 50 cal like imagine just a [ __ ] City Street in Austin right and you're parked in the middle of the road and you just shoot with a 50 cow off the top of a humby you know like 8 ft off the ground through

those Tracer rounds would skip down the road it was breaking glass [ __ ] going through cars [ __ ] you know 500 yards down the road like people scattered like this amazing you know wow 50 Cals amazing you know what I mean and then I had a [ __ ] pick up guts but well this is the [ __ ] up thing about it is like you you went through all this chaos you're uniquely qualified for chaos for some strange reason love chaos is my jam man as soon as this gets confusing yo I

got this you know what I mean but why is that I don't [ __ ] know seems to be what I do best yeah I think so does that something that like you accumulated this mindset over time or did you just always have it I think it was beaten to me really yeah like think about it when I was a kid the house was chaotic yeah you know what I mean you learn you learn the chaos right and then it's just your designed for that break glass in case of War yeah yeah I guess so

I don't know I think I'm a normal guy but like people tell me I'm not butal yeah I mean I understand you I understand you it's not normal but I understand you yeah I mean like look I just feel like okay we're all going to die I'm not going to let it ruin my day I've been through bad [ __ ] I'm not the [ __ ] victim I've done bad [ __ ] I'm not the [ __ ] bad guy you know what I'm saying like uh and then having said that it's like I

don't know man I I think it affects everybody differently but I think you know um before I retired I was burned out I didn't know I was burned out I was an [ __ ] every day [ __ ] I was you know you I me I just [ __ ] guys would come in my office what do you want yeah too slow get the [ __ ] out when you know what you want come back and got be like okay sorry uh well you were operating at 10 always always yeah and then I learned

man like I was having a lot I [ __ ] hated my life I was miserable I hated being a s major I hated being Army management is what I called it I'm not a leader I'm not a follower I'm not a soldier I'm [ __ ] Army management and that [ __ ] is [ __ ] dry [ __ ] toast you know what I'm saying uh and I just got out of [ __ ] Baghdad in ' 06 [ __ ] killing people like 06 was a great year you know um and then

I got to sit on the [ __ ] staff and do this [ __ ] like it just [ __ ] killing me Joe and then so like I wasn't a very good s major so I realized one day like man I think I used to be funny like you know like when I was a kid like I'd catch that beating if I could say that one [ __ ] smartass comment to you I might get beat more but I [ __ ] said my peace you know what I mean even as a little kid

I'll take the beating to [ __ ] call you an [ __ ] right uh so like I I kind of um maybe have that mindset going into it or something you know what I mean like um but uh yeah man I I just think like I think a lot of it just goes back to my childhood and being able to manage the chaos one minute we're fighting the next minute you know someone's at the front door like go answer the crazy thing about it is that like if you are you're running a you're running

any branch of the military and you're asking a lot of people to find someone like you that you can find someone who doesn't just accept this but thrives on it that's like try recreating that in a lab [ __ ] you know what I'm saying I know how do you how do you make that you can't I don't know I've only seen like I don't know in my experience of all the guys I know all the combat I've seen I'd say there's like just I mean you know we're not we're not the common guys you

know what I mean maybe a dozen in my life that you guys on a group chat [ __ ] no [ __ ] they don't talk to nobody you know what I mean you'll never know who they are they ain't [ __ ] talking to you me [ __ ] nobody you know what I mean and some you know of the you know I maybe know a dozen of those guys uh eight probably still work for the dark side of the government as old men wherever that is yeah uh and the other guys are like

raising families and don't want you [ __ ] with them right you know what I mean they don't do [ __ ] like this yeah guys like me don't do [ __ ] like that but the thing about it is if you didn't talk about it people wouldn't know right like I think it's great that you talk about it I think it's important I think people need to I mean people need to you know we're trying to like fill in an understanding of the world and until you've talked to someone who's experienced a part of

the world in a way in a way that no one else has you don't know that that's a thing right like the fact that you can come and talk about this is a very good thing for everybody thank you because people be to see like okay like this is this is super complicated like this the whole thing was super complicated and to have a guy that could talk about navigating probably the most complicated aspect of this super complicated thing and to actually thrive in it it's very strange thank you I still think I'm normal Joe

I think I'm a regular guy so you're definitely not normal but I but like I said I understand you oh thanks man I get it but uh yeah man and look I got some more items you want to see something else I've never showed off so uh I talk about stories in some of my videos about being a taxi driver I also uh had another vehicle that was uh an UD cus secret police vehicle so when I drive this vehicle downtown like the [ __ ] SE would part the road could be packed and I

driving my vehicle and people just move what kind of vehicle was it it was like a Maxima Nissan Maxima but it's what the ud secret police drove you know what I'm saying and then They Carried these and I'll show you check this out wow so the the lion is the Babylon lion and that's the the symbol of the Republican but I used to carry that as a taxi driver and when I get out of the taxi people would see that [ __ ] gun and just [ __ ] walk away wow and that's a republican

that's what the Republican guard rock those silver guns it I say it's a pearl handle but it's like plastic yeah it's plastic yeah there nothing fancy about it but specific to them yeah wow say on there yeah I had a guy make it for me elk Riel tool handle yeah bosean Montana there's only so many guys that'll do AKs you know like you know what I mean you you want a uh you want like a silver AK what do you the cartel no get the [ __ ] out of here you're not serious about guns

you know how many [ __ ] NOS I had to collect up like anyway but uh that's my Republican guard that's my taxi driver G so you had that made specifically because you knew that They Carried that no I captured that on the battlefield and carried it in Iraq so that is what but why does it say bosean Montana CA well cause Okay so if you bring one home you get fired oh but what I did what I did is I took the handguard and the pistol grip and then I had a guy make a

copy of what I had oh yeah yeah oh okay so it's it's I mean it's legal and everything but so the handguard and the pistol grip is from the original gun right but that's exactly what the original gun looked like cuz I didn't want look when you're in the def like you want to get fired for bringing back an AK right [ __ ] you know what I mean like dumb like you know what I mean like it's not worth the risk right but like it's like hey can I bring this handguard back like the

[ __ ] you want that garbage for that's a yes you know what I mean yeah yeah yeah and then uh it took me a while to get but yeah that guy built it for me wow just got it kind of matches the Hat everybody I know likes to take a picture with and the hat so it's kind of popular but uh wow yeah the Hat's been in Texas here for a very long time been stored in Texas uh got it documented about as much as possible as I can some [ __ ] nightmares in

house I don't know hey you know anybody that would might want it what are you were selling it yeah I bet someone want that yeah I don't I don't want it yeah I want to keep that in my house no [ __ ] no Joe why you think I keep it in a black [ __ ] box man uh yeah I don't want it uh but I know there is people out there that would treat it better than me like I mean I crammed it in a box yeah well and the the guy that stored

it for me put it in glass you know what I mean like he kind of knew what he was doing uh actually I had it stuffed in a bag you know what that would be good for Zack Bean's haunted Museum in Vegas have you ever you know Zach no I hear that place is [ __ ] creepy it's creepy my brother said it was [ __ ] creepy Fu creepy my brother likes creepy [ __ ] and he was freaked out oh he's got everything in that place he's got uh kavor and's van where he

killed those people hey he's got the Camaro from [ __ ] the wo what's Kesh does he and like the cereal I don't think so I thought he bought the Camaro from you were going to was serial number like I am God or something wasn't that the serial number it's a 68 Camaro and it was for sale and I came that close to pulling the trigger on it but I was like I don't want that [ __ ] bad juju in my life that's it 68 Camaro from deadly Siege Zack begings oh he does have

so he bought it so Zack bought it he's the one selling it I think oh he's selling it now so he got it it was for sale 23 this was from a year no this it was for sale quite a while ago and I was going to buy it I somebody somebody emailed me and told me that they know I love old muscle cars and they said caresh is Camaros for sale I was like o and I went like this let me buy it and I was like no the [ __ ] am I going

to do with this yeah yeah I'd rather by one that has no history yeah I have a 69 yeah I love them I I love old muscle cars so I was thinking about it but I was like no no no no no you don't want that in your life you don't want that I had a 67 Camaro when I was a kid look at the title David Kesh wakeo Texas J Jesus Christ does the serial number say I am God or something no it seems normal look at the bin number is normal it's a normal

VIN number [ __ ] crazy [ __ ] that guy uh I when you know you went to the Mother Ship last night yeah I was gon to buy another building before that that was run by a cult and they moved out here it was called I forget what the what was the name the bod tree is that what it was called anyway there's a documentary on was called holy hell so this guy this guy uh he was a yoga teacher in West Hollywood and uh he was a gay porn star and a hypnotist so

this [ __ ] guy he got a lot of ass so the B field that's it thank you so uh wo goes off right and then the cult awareness Network starts investigating him and he's running this cult in West Hollywood so he escapes in the middle of the night and drives out to Texas moves to Austin tells everybody come here and they all move out to Austin and then he has them build this place it's called the One World Theater and all the cult members ran this place for years until they figured out that this

guy was [ __ ] everybody one guy said sends out a mass email say hey this guy's been hypnotizing me and butt [ __ ] me for the last 10 years and everybody's like me too and so then they all find out that he's [ __ ] everybody this guy so they all leave the cult falls apart the building's for sale so I swoop in um when I move here the building's for sale Ron White tells me about the building being for sale he's like this building's [ __ ] awesome I perform there you should

get you should buy it so Ron White's my hero so I'm like I'll buy it [ __ ] it yeah you know I need a CL we're going to open up a comedy club let's open up in this place all sorts of problems with the building code this that lot of sh environmental lot of [ __ ] so I get out of it but I bought the building before I watched the documentary so I watched the documentary and I'm like oh no same thing it's like these [ __ ] people all the lives lost they

lived 20 years these poor people wasted 20 years of their life following this [ __ ] [ __ ] and he's got this building but the reason why he bought the building was because of Waco so w Waco pops off they they were like oh Jesus these Cults are [ __ ] dangerous so the cult awareness Network starts going after everybody so this guy moves here and changes his name so because like back then you could kind of change no internet you kind of change your name and know oh it's a different guy and so

he builds he has his whole all his followers build him this theater so for a brief period of time I was under contract for that theater do you go in there building oh yeah did it was it creepy in there it was a little weird this guy would like he had had this theater beautiful theater he had it built so he could dance in front of his followers so he could perform in front of his followers he was a weird cat he was like a really handsome guy when he was younger but then as he

got older he started getting plastic surgery and got looked real weird and he would like be thinking about getting something done so he'd force one of his followers to go get it done and so they'd get it done they'd come back with their [ __ ] cheeks like hm I kind of like that and then he would go and get the the surgery done at the end of it the end of the documentary look really [ __ ] weird cuz he's got Botox CH all weird [ __ ] to his face yeah but the feeling

in the building was just like like of loss that's what it felt like loss like just just just oh no you know like like you don't want to buy a house from some people that they went bankrupt and they lost everything and their family fell apart then you're in the house like oo this house feels like sadness yeah that's I felt like we could burn some sage and [ __ ] partying there for a few days we'll clean it up good energy now I'm glad I'm glad that that didn't happen I'm glad why even go

through that yeah well it was kind of funny at first I thought it was funny until I you know a cult owned it oh this is funny and then my buddy Adam called me up he goes hey you watch a documentary on that cult I was like oh no there's a documentary that's never good yeah they don't WR doc make documentaries about the good Cults no and it was a [ __ ] it was horrible at the end of the documentary like you're tearing up you're like oh these poor [ __ ] people cuz there's

so many PE they some people are just gullible and they they're not bad people they just want someone better than them to tell them how to live life yeah that's all it is they need something they need something they're missing something whatever it is something went wrong and they're willing to believe a lot of really ridiculous [ __ ] and then 20 years later they realize they wasted their life people do a lot of weird [ __ ] and call it religion mhm you know exactly yeah yeah and that was this place yeah but that

was because of Waco that this this guy built this thing yeah damn the wo thing's [ __ ] you ever watched the The Raid uh I know yeah I mean the raid kind of like we got the briefings back in the day like you know the raid was a couple years old but yeah um yeah I know about the raid it was pretty [ __ ] I mean they just cooked those people yeah and burned it down oh yeah I can see the tanks like shooting fire into the buildings and like I don't know what

happened caught fire yeah it was back in the '90s when you could kind of get away with something like that and people didn't really know yeah yeah like well we didn't know it would burn well it is made of wood like yeah but I mean and we shot fire at it I mean I don't know what happened yeah yeah it's crazy all right you ready I got some other stuff what else you got what else you got so check this out I got I got a swag bag for you I got a bunch of stuff

uh I make that I do right um so I just kind of want to I like to do this right look I got you the SOB hat this is the best hat uh we sell right here it's the one I wear this on the Range every day okay uh I got your same t-shirt as me team so shirt right well welcome to the team Joe uh we're glad to have you one of my second favorite shirt of all times is this and I wear this every day when I El hunt do you really yeah oh

wait oh no this the wrong one I got a shirt I I sell these shirts they're called Slaughter things and it's all I wear in El cam you know what I mean uh but look we got you shut up hippie shirt sell a ton of these like uh I wear these they knives bullets bullets uh got your shut up hippie shirt I when I go to California teach California classes I I wear a shut up heavy shirt all the time uh and then tons of guys buy them uh I had a guy he comes to

my classes he's a younger kid he's tall got a young family right they go to I think Ashville North Carolina and they're eating at like some destination like you got to go eat here and it's a bus so he's a big guy right and he's in this like school bus and it's where you got to orders in this old school bus so he said like my shoulders almost touching the ceiling and he had to put his head down and he had a shut up hippie shirt on behind him and some hey some hippie behind him

was like better be careful wearing that shirt you'll get your ass kicked around here right hey and he and he says he looks back and he pulled up his shirt and he said better make it a gun fight and they shut the [ __ ] up oh that's hilarious yeah well North Carolina you're going to get your ass kicked that's so funny by hippies that's so funny that's the most gentle ass kicking of all time yeah thank you for that you know what I mean uh okay I got your condom holster I make these 365

it's your EDC you um you make these out of leather right yeah uh they're made out of leather I saw this on Sean show yeah ni yeah it's hey it's all I use it's all I wear it is the most comfortable holster um here and that's all the stuff for you I'll give you the bag too also oh oh I got a bag okay so check this out here's another thing I use all the time a cooling SCH smog so basically I saw this too you know what the you know the SCH smogs right basically

I made a cooling towel the size of a shog okay so like when I'm on the Range literally I just dump a bottle of water in my neck the [ __ ] thing absorbs it what's it made out of it's the cooling material you know like the cooling towel material right but the the problem with most cooling towels is they're not big enough so it's like one layer on your neck and it dries in like two minutes this right this you could kind of get double it up pour water on it it'll stay cool Co

cuz I've seen people they they're making gear and clothes out of like this cooling material what is it what is it I don't know I think it's like it the way it's woven to where when the water drains out of it it cools quicker and it's materials that cool clicker or feel cool to the touch kind of deal without knowing what it is I've heard like people talk about clothes that they make out of this they're like it's really legit like for whatever reason it like keeps you cooler I would wear t-shirts on the Range

made of that [ __ ] every [ __ ] day I'm outside yeah yeah [ __ ] yeah especially in the heat you know what I mean okay so check it out I got you a couple slings I don't know if you have rifles but okay 100% made in America uh everything on the sling is made there's a QD on there I make traditionally qds in the gun world if somebody wants to buy any of this stuff where do they get it online Sheriff of Baghdad Joe Sheriff of baghdad. comom that's right that's right okay

here's another thing I got you punchers punch daggers so it's G10 uh I got I got a few of them here okay so this doesn't even go through a metal detector that's right there's a there's no metal in the sheath it's all plastic screws a cleans up easy won't no DNA you can clean it in diesel fuel it'll wash all the DNA off diesel fuel yeah you washing anything alcohol yeah diesel fuel is the move I think so just go to the gas station get get on cans you you could do [ __ ] dish

but you can't permeate the plastic it'll come clean uh and I sharpen them with a um I sharpen them normally with like 400 grit sandpaper I just resharpen it with sandpaper wow but the reason I made it is I I always wanted something where like you I was always wearing my body armor right and I wanted to just put the punch dagger right in the center that way if something happened I could get it right boom and just start [ __ ] punching I mean the whole problem with knives is you got to learn how

to use a knife but with a punch dagger if you could throw a punch right you could bury that thing in someone's neck you know what I mean like which what I would tell anyone Jam's been looking for one of those for a while haven't you Jamie car when Carl gets out of line yeah hey it'll clean the DNA off sand it down a little alcohol okay another thing I made and this is super important I call these combat bands it's a high temperature silicone but it's a rubber band The so what here is when

like when I carry this rifle put a sling on it but if I'm in in and out of vehicles the sling is always just hanging somewhere right so I'd put the rubber band on the gun and then I just weave the sling underneath the rubber band So if this touches the barrel it doesn't melt right right and then back in the day I had to use actual rubber bands for parachutes and it [ __ ] lasts a day like in the heat in Texas a rubber band will last one day in a car well well

that's only one day I might I got to go to out every day in my car right so when I tired it's one of the things I wanted the most so I made him the uh guys use them to like put suppressor covers hold them on their you know on their suppressor you have great videos online like instructional videos like how to fight out of your car yeah thank you yeah they're really like informative like like things I didn't think I was interested in learning then I started watching this like this guy's [ __ ]

thought this [ __ ] through it's all I did Joe like and I'm look I'm a simple guy let me just show you how I did this this right maybe you come up with a better way I don't know right and but I think this is like this is the difference between the Army and the unit in the Army they're like here's a gun kid go use it in the unit they're like let me show you to the inth degree how to use that rifle so when something happens guess what you know what I'm saying

so it's the difference between showing someone something and teaching someone something and I think those are different and I think I think that's what the unit was good at uh here's some of my favorite things the boot kits um Solomon boots made for the military I've been wearing Solomon boots you'll see a set of Solomon boots in the Saddam picture I hunted with them this year yeah yeah it's all I wear Solomon right well if you got the quests you know how the laces kind of come yep so like the running shoes too yeah yeah

so I turn them into like the running shoes nice yeah we sell a ton of those okay and what do you do with the extra lace cut it off I cut I cut cut it off I I loosen the boot where I get my foot out and I cut the excess off and put the end on it ah so so I don't have like three feet of laces I only have like eight or 10 inches you know what I mean six in whatever it is okay uh these are these are some of my best things

uh this is a I would call it a scribe tool right in the fact set that it's a carpenter pencil makes sense you know a carpenter pencil but the middle is G10 same thing as the punch knife so it's for stabbing a lot of guys carry him go through metal detectors a lot of guys carry him airports like these things I get pictures of these things everywhere yeah uh I made it fist size so you could punch with it or kind of get a good stab with it uh if you wanted you know what I

mean something I always wanted smart yeah yeah I have a pencil like that yeah someone gave me yep yep um okay so check this out you uh here's a bunch of stickers we make uh some of the things that happen on the Range blind guys always tell them they can't see [ __ ] uh you know how like when you shoot and guys like really push their butt backwards I call that the prison wallet you know what I mean and be like showing me your prison wallet you know what I mean uh so there's a

lot of stickers are like funny [ __ ] I tell guys all the time like a guy will be shooting good all day long in the end of the day he'll [ __ ] something up and I'll just come up all I got to do is whisper to a guy be like sucks to suck don't it and a guy be like sh sh the [ __ ] up you know what I mean so uh all the stickers are just funny [ __ ] that happens on the range right and then look this is the premise

of the NRA show we talked about earlier is I made a little card um the gun world is sketchy information at best generally speaking of where your bullets go and why like it's [ __ ] magic this is about eye dominance yeah one side's eye dominance the other one is how to fix yourself where the bullets go and why m M Mak sense yeah so look this Edge GP how yeah so look this Edge ision on the left hand yep and then like uh you use this Edge so if your group is generally tall right

you got stance issues and then as you see your group whatever angle it's on the arrows point to it and tell you how to fix it interesting now backside eye dominance this is where the gun world [ __ ] up and I'll tell you this The Gun World talks about two things for eyes primary hand primary eye right-handed right eye dominant right they talk about being crossy dominant right-handed left eyee dominant right okay here's how the vision I think really works okay um being primary hand primary eye is the guy who makes all the rules

in shooting you should open your eyes you should do this right he makes all the rules but the reality is is his vision is his right eye on a scale of 1 to 10 he'll tell you borderline 11 cuz it's that [ __ ] good you know what I mean borderline 11 in the good eye ask him the vision in his other eye and he's going to tell you Hard Eight it's not really so good mhm this guy will always be able to keep the other eye open makes sense yes okay now these are the

same thing it whether your primary hand primary eye or crossey dominant it's the same thing you have a strong eye and a weak eye and the strong eye takes over doesn't [ __ ] matter strong eye takes over right [ __ ] easy for you okay this is one out of 10 the other nine are what I call I neutral right they don't have a dominant eye and either eye could take over at any time because either eye on a pistol could see the sights at any time right and this is where people get [

__ ] up that makes sense with archery too 100% it's the same I don't like to keep both eyes open I've tried it yeah well that's cuz you're what I would call I neutral say what I'm saying and then I would I would also say this if you have a gray hair on your head you are closer to being eye neutral than any eye dominant any [ __ ] thing because of life right and and the reason I would tell you that is because the part of the brain that works the eyes is like the

part of the brain that works the ears it's the part of the brain that works the legs and the arms right they work all these things on your subconscious I think work better together and are stronger together what do I mean by that you know you know when it comes to leg days dudes are like dude man bro I'm a squat 500 on leg day okay does that mean you can do 250 lbs with one leg no you can't probably right because the legs are stronger together than they are independently right and this is a

function of the the the Deep part of your brain the fast part of your brain right um so having said that you can't choose an ear can you right the only way you can choose an eye is the eyelid which has nothing to do with vision or dominance see what I'm saying that makes sense I've never heard anybody say that before but now that you're saying it like okay yeah so if you look at the card right if you're like right-handed right eye dominant you should be hitting in the middle of the circle there right

but if your left eye takes over look where the rounds will go and it'll always be look it'll always be eye distance apart on your target so people that have eye issues they don't shoot one group they shoot two groups one for each eye and the gun goes left eye right eye left eye right eye Evan was telling me that he uh learned to practice left-handed a lot yeah and he practices things even though he's right-hand dominant right he like help it helped the right side to practice with the left side yeah do you subscribe

to that uh yes I do and I'll tell you why uh before I retired from the Army um I tore my bicep out of my out of my left arm I'm left-handed so I went and turned in all my left-handed holsters and got right-handed holsters and I was like I'm going to train myself to be right-handed from here forward cuz the VA said I'd never use my left hand again um so I was like okay [ __ ] you guys I'll be a righty you can't slow me down you know what I mean uh and

then I started training as a righty took me about two weeks I was [ __ ] up it was tough you know what I mean I had to stick with it [ __ ] a lot of frustrating days and after about two weeks my brain just transferred all that skill to the right hand and I just [ __ ] rocked it from then on out makes sense because you have this mental memory of Excellence with one side you just have to well think about this if if you actually knew perfect practice you could switch that

to the other hand but if you never knew perfect practice the other hand would get the same garbage right that makes sense yeah so I think completely makes sense and I've never heard anybody say it before everybody says you should keep both eyes open well you should but the guy who made that rule has a strong eye and a weak eye and he can do that where you your brain when I say someone is eye neutral your brain treats your eyes as equal what does that mean your vision could be [ __ ] it could

be great but the brain says I got two windows I look out of this one let me look out of that one and you you're going back and forth you'll see the gun move you'll see the head move and there and then most of the time it just like it's no good you just not seeing it good make sense it does are you one of those guys that resists red dots or do you you I don't give a [ __ ] you know I mean did you ever resisted at all or did you so cuz

iron sights never fail you they're always there no batteries I am not a red dot guy I'm an iron sight guy however let me explain myself the internet knows me as a red dot hater but you know I'm taking that video and I'm going to draw one line through that red dot back to your face and if it don't point exactly to your eye you're shooting and not seeing [ __ ] and every time I show this to somebody they're like so you're against red dots no you're never going to catch the red dock unless

you get better technique and you get better technique with iron sides well no you you could have good technique with a red dot also if you had [ __ ] good technique and someone showed it to you but no one shows it to you right the next thing with the Red Dot is the Red Dot is great for guys who don't see well because what happens is the Red Dot becomes in between you your eye and the target Mak sense essentially right so you'll be able to see that um but what no one tells you

is it's harder to learn harder to master so you need it but you need to train with it properly or it's not doing why is it hard to learn few reasons um you know the if you look at Pro Shooters um highlevel Pro Shooters guys that are like [ __ ] insanely fast winning you know national ipsi champs Rob Rob leam Dave svy you look at these guys what you'll see is like they're so much more efficient than anyone else right and they'll use a way bigger site like I think the winningest sight of all

time in like gun games is uh it's like the Seymour STS but it's like more of the size of a beer can than than it is the little tactical site right so now when you shrink that thing down to a postage stamp they put a coating on it so it doesn't [ __ ] reflect or whatever but you can't see through it well and they curve the glass which anyone who shoots rifle scopes will tell you fishey is a [ __ ] real thing right but this red dot has all these things going on and

it's supposed to be better for a guy who don't see [ __ ] that's interesting and it just becomes harder to do and then once you show them how to get it right like they'll never have problems again but it's all about showing them how to get it right right right and then no one talks about that because they're stuck on you can't use the right eye or they never get past that point how important is it to teach people the right way the first time so they don't have to unlearn [ __ ] man

everyone has a preconceived notion of what they think they should do whether you've shot before or not and I'm going to have to unfuck that no matter what no matter what so it's like you know it's like uh kind of like in the dojo where it's like okay uh I want you to do like 20 good 20 shitty arm bars and then we'll we'll get the hips better on the next 20 we'll tweak the hand on the next 20 we'll to you know what I mean like get some of them bulk movements down first right

and then we keep fine tuning right fine tuning yeah so it doesn't matter if I mean look even if even if you learned how to punch from Jon Jones on your first day you wouldn't go out and win a match that night right you know what I mean so I think it's like I always I tell people this all the time 1% better a day just 1% that's what I'm looking for today if I can be 1% better today than I was yesterday well that's 365 per by the end of the year and I didn't

do much every day you know what I mean so I always tell people like shooting or a skill like this is a marathon not a Sprint right so it's better that's that's with everything right yeah I think so yeah I think so too and I tell you like you know if you if if you think you're going to have to pull a gun and save your family one day you should be practicing a few times a week yeah you know what I it doesn't have to be much but you should be practicing a little bit

getting this gun out shouldn't be a shock to you when the time comes cuz it's not going to come to you then right yeah oh it's great advice yeah do you enjoy teaching I [ __ ] love teaching I love helping people uh now that I'm doing jits again a lot of people want me to show them like [ __ ] cars and guns and jits and guns and I don't know if I'm ready to take my sanity Pastime and turn it into work you know what I'm saying so understand I I I play with

guns now and a lot of guys have told me I need to be like you know like the car bailouts like all this [ __ ] like I do uh I'm afraid to ruin jiujitsu his work so I've been I've been reluctant and I always tell people I'll never teach jiujitsu but like I [ __ ] teach anyone everything I mean if we can get better today let's talk about it one thing about teaching Jiu-Jitsu though is I think it makes you better at Jiu-Jitsu I think it's selfish it's like a good thing for you

well okay you know this you're a black belt right every day you went to a dojo you were trying to hand that black belt his ass and then you get your black belt and now everyone every day the rest of your life is trying to hand you your ass you know what I mean it's a [ __ ] thankless job yeah no day no one's trying to hand you your ass [ __ ] yeah let's go that's the beautiful thing about Jiu-Jitsu too like you don't really you don't catch any breaks you might get it

one day where there's like oh there's only blue bells here I love it when someone forces me into like real survival mode now I'm not talking about like you know he got a triangle and I'm just going to ride this I'm talking like someone like I'm like [ __ ] I got to do something now I [ __ ] love that man how are you how are you avoiding injuries um okay so uh first and foremost uh I started out I don't even take Motrin I try to take no drugs after I got off the

pills from the VA and started getting active and you know I try not to take any medicines at all I went to master worlds and [ __ ] are yoked up [ __ ] and the gear is out you know what I mean like these [ __ ] are working out since last year just to [ __ ] stroke a [ __ ] today right like I was a little unprepared this year for worlds uh in that aspect but um I'm all for the peptides I'm all for the TR I'm not against any of it

um per se uh and and I think that's a uh I did the peptides I just I'm not I don't I don't like shots like right and I won't give myself a shot you were talking about that on Sean Ryan you know likea something piercing your skin yeah like I don't like that I don't know why right like I know has been through everything that you've been through is like needles sketch me out I mean just give it it doesn't hurt like I'm not a [ __ ] about it but it's like peptides are so

easy though I know well I took the pills I took the I took the pill onc 157 yeah and and I'll tell you like super legit uh what is it Gary Brea that guy he talks about redheaded people I'm a redheaded people I got pale skinn you know rheed people have better pain tolerance yeah I well I take drugs different I think there's a thing about that though see Google that redheaded people have better pain he my whole life I've taken drugs differently like I don't get perette I get diloted ah so I think like

like when you got rofi like everybody else conked out yeah I'm just in overp party mode like you were also talking about on Sean's show that you take you have the thing that Jamie has where you can take a lot of Edibles and you don't feel it oh yeah the the we gummies are [ __ ] wor some Studies have found that redhe heads have a lower pain threshold but other Studies have found the opposite oh okay so it's all [ __ ] up inconclusive inconclusive yeah but um yeah depends on the individual so but

I will tell you this it healed my stomach and my healing went from like a week or two to like four days BBC 157 is very legit yeah and then um so anyway uh I want to do more in the future uh I'd like to uh I kind of want to do it all like I mean I'm [ __ ] I'm 54 man that's why I was asking you like are you do what are you doing to avoid injuries okay so besides that I do cardio uh a couple years ago my first elk hunt my

first elk bow hunt you we right up to like 9,000 ft and then like walked up three miles from there like hey yo I was 280 at one time that was a [ __ ] hell of a walk for a big fat [ __ ] up that [ __ ] mountain and then I hunt with these old guys and then the two guys I was with like two of the guys have hearing aids and the other from guns right huh from guns uh I don't know they're just older yeah they're Hunters right yeah so both

of them got hearing aids and the front one looks back to the second one both good friends of mine like and was like turn your hearing aids down so you ain't got to hear him breathe so [ __ ] loud and I'm like I heard you mother [ __ ] you like so uh I told myself like I was going to start walking 30 minutes a day and that was [ __ ] hard and then now I do like an hour cardio I could run but I don't um but I started again I need to

be running a little bit for cardio um I I treat strength as two different things I spent about a year uh with 15lb dumbbells just like rehabbing motion movement joints and it was a lot of [ __ ] pain and then you know now I'm I'm getting stronger every day I've been you know power athlete Big John but I kind of look at strength two different ways I try to do strength days where it's like like the traditional squats Deads like all the big ones push pulls all of it covered all and then I see

it as a conditioning is something separate right and conditioning would be lighter weight like CrossFit like round like without without knowing how to say it better so uh but the steps [ __ ] I'm going to tell you this I'll tell anybody this you want to [ __ ] start losing weight it starts at 10,000 [ __ ] steps a day get your ass out there start [ __ ] walking uh and then the next thing I did is uh I went to a competition class um by Shan's in Tennessee and uh I got a

diet I got workouts I got an app I tracked my diet I did uh right before worlds I was at 170 grams of protein 1,800 calories a day you're very strict about it yeah and I shredded weight um I cut I cut down I was probably 240 I cut down to 222 as was the smallest human being in the [ __ ] 222 cuz everyone's yoked up like [ __ ] mad men probably all cut weight well my coaches were like you know and I can't believe I even listen to this but they're like man

it's the 55 bracket like it's guys like you this is their Pastime you know what I mean today is not the same yo these [ __ ] would this is [ __ ] Killer Season out at this [ __ ] you know what I mean like I was unprepared for man I had this big Mongolian [ __ ] uh you know Edwin Edwin jamy you know Edwin Edwin uh Gracie Bara Tarzana uh California right Edwin's like a Jiu-Jitsu Legend he's at Worlds who's your coach I [ __ ] have a coach it's me my backpack

and a ghee let's [ __ ] get this fight going [ __ ] and he's like well coaching I'm like okay you know what I mean I don't got a coach and then like right before we walk out on the mat he's like yo ref are they the same weight class and I'm like yo my man Ed this is my coach right here my man like you know what I mean but like this dude was [ __ ] huge and he was one of them Mongolian jacket wrestlers you've done this oh I've seen that I

couldn't I couldn't get the take down and then we went down on the ground he hit me with a like a [ __ ] paper cutter po my head out tried to choke me again [ __ ] got out of it but as I was getting up I knew I needed to keep this guy in the ground but guess what man when you get in trouble guess what you do you stand the [ __ ] up and this dude stand up and I knew I wasn't getting my two points back and then I was just

[ __ ] exhausted like I was [ __ ] gas decided to ramp up their condition yeah [ __ ] yeah man this year I'm [ __ ] winning world I'm [ __ ] world champion Joe I'm the toughest old [ __ ] I [ __ ] know you know godamn it let's [ __ ] go I'm going to figure this [ __ ] out but I will tell you I think what I didn't know is you got to train to compete to compete well and I [ __ ] fight and I want to fight

and I want to get smashed and I want to [ __ ] I want to almost lose this fight 10 [ __ ] times to finally get that [ __ ] submission on you and that's a great fight to me and like yo yeah yeah you just lost 13 points on that and then if you don't get the submission you just lost 13 points on that you know what I mean like so it's a different about treating it like the sport versus what you get out of it what you like and I'll tell you this

is like I probably could have changed the match if I would have pulled guard around three minutes in I ain't never pulled guard in my [ __ ] life like what kind of [ __ ] [ __ ] pulls [ __ ] guard well I figured it out I'll tell you what kind of [ __ ] when you can't take a bigger [ __ ] down yeah this is maybe what pulling guards for or in the real world walk the [ __ ] away yeah before you [ __ ] just get [ __ ] smashed

out here you know what I mean thinking you're something you ain't do you spend a lot of time practicing off your back cuz a lot a lot of times with big guys they don't like I'll start there [ __ ] get my neck let's go you can't take I will give you my back just to [ __ ] get out I don't give a [ __ ] man I love I always like honestly when I when I'm like when I'm just at the dojo like girls or smaller people right like I I try not to

smash them right and and I'll tell him like Hey if I get on top just [ __ ] sweep me right stay on top of me the whole time and I just [ __ ] let them go at me like I would just pretend that I'm weak when I would roll with someone who's weak I would pretend I'm weak and like that's I think that's the best way to do it like no strength I'm never going to use strength yeah I think that's Hixon always said the that defense was more important than anything he said

I am always safe no matter where I am I am always safe defense you're [ __ ] him hey your Hixon is great by the way dud you seen choke you seen the documentary I have not seen choke but I just finished his new book The Dark One dark dark Hixon came out with a new book I just I just audio booked it the because he's got Parkinson now yeah but uh you know he's got the breathe book but he just came out with a new one I just listened to it like last week you

know what I mean yeah but uh you got to watch choke I got to one of the greatest documentaries of all time I know I've heard for a martial artist [ __ ] incredible it's Hixon in his prime competing in Japan Valley tudo and just you see him training and doing his yoga and all the crazy breathing [ __ ] where his stomach sucks up inside of I don't even know how to do that yeah he uh when when he was testing me my purple belt he was like yes um yes yeah when when I

lay on the ground I am flat he's like when you lay on the ground you are not flat you should roll more I'm like are you I know you know enough English just to call me [ __ ] fat you know what I mean but God damn it roll more yeah I should roll yeah and he he's he's showing me like rolls from side control getting out of stuff because I am more round than I am flat and it's kind of like you know fat guys should roll more it's hard to stop you know what

I mean like so he had there's some real [ __ ] Wisdom in there you know what I mean but it's like I always like how like they know enough English to insult you but they'll say it like their way you know yes you it's just being practical yeah yeah no it's just real talk and that's what he does like yeah yeah that guy it's pretty cool getting your purple belt from that guy I am the only person so okay I had to do the paperwork you know there's other like big-time Hickson black belts out

there that kind of police up all everybody so when you go to Worlds or you fight you know like these guys and they told me they would they'd get me under their paperwork but literally I did the paperwork with ibjjf and I sent it to hick in and he filled out the paperwork but like I didn't know I sent him the paperwork and it's like one of them forms where you just sign it with your finger on your phone like super easy I sent it to Hicks and I was like hey coach we got a

form we got a f sign and he's not he's not a member of any of these organizations anymore so like I didn't know how this would go and they like sent me a [ __ ] paper copy and they like have Mr Gracie sign this signature right so I I texted to Hicks and I'm like hey coach can you sign my paperwork for worlds real quick and he texted me right back and he's like hey champ I'm looking for a printer now as soon as I find one I'll sign this and I was just thinking

[ __ ] I don't even know who's got a prin I don't even have a printer in my [ __ ] house like if hixon's looking for a printer I think he just told me no you know what I mean like right right right like [ __ ] and then like a couple days later he sent it back to me signed right I think probably his wife was like oh Hixon yeah look you know what I mean like I just I just didn't think I think he kind of didn't know but uh he got back

to me and then they sent me I had to do this a few times and then I was the only guy I'm the only belted guy fighting under Hicks in in the Masters right now W yeah that's pretty [ __ ] cool yeah and then uh I would say this for Jiu-Jitsu for me is like I'm so glad it is where it is these days cuz back in the day I mean think about this back in the day I travel all the time I'm in a different Dojo [ __ ] weekly you know I might

be here for 4 days I try to get three days of jits I'm in [ __ ] wakeo I'm going to [ __ ] places I've been in 26 different dojos this year like doing jits back in the day that was [ __ ] Cante you know what I mean [ __ ] monsters in Portuguese right because you don't have no loyalty you don't have no [ __ ] and the reality is like yeah I'm just never home right I I don't want to be unloyal to anybody I'm loyal to everybody but I just want

to get rounds and I'm so glad the D Jitsu world is so [ __ ] welcoming these days meaning like like I don't have to show up and fight right much more openminded they're happy to welcome people from other schools the only the only the only person that was like why are you here was a cyborg at fight Sports oh really yeah you know cyborg he's great and you know you know Roosevelt you know Roosevelt the tall guy that hangs out with him I don't tallest black belt I ever seen let tallest Brazilian I ever

seen right so he's one of the black belts down there with uh with with him with Cyborg and um I'm out there and I'm like at the time I was blue belt in it you know what I mean and I was probably I don't know 250 I was kind of fat and like fight Sports is like old school Brazilian jiujitsu where we're going to shrimp across the mat we do [ __ ] all this I don't give a [ __ ] if you L Jiu-Jitsu today but you're going to be tough right so it's that

kind of [ __ ] and uh that's how Carlson Gracie's was before you even got to the class you were [ __ ] exhausted yeah the class hasn't started yet right so I'm out on the mat I'm breathing hard I'm just kind of doing my thing and uh Roosevelt the big tall black belt comes over and he was like man he's like you are my inspiration I'm like I am coach I'm your inspiration he's like yes he's like you are out here you are doing this man he was like you are everyone's inspiration and I'm

looking around and like everyone's rolling like and then and then like everyone stops cuz like he's talking to me you know what I mean and like every now everyone's looking at me and I'm like what in the [ __ ] is going on right so he was like you are here you are doing this you are old you are my inspiration and I'm like thanks coach I was like and then like I didn't need a break but I was like [ __ ] after that talk maybe I do need a break so I was like

maybe I do need a break coach you know and he was like okay fix your ghee so I fix my ghee I tie my belt he's like run laps around the practice until you're ready to practice again it was like man that's [ __ ] worse I wasn't I didn't even need the [ __ ] break and he gave me the old speech so I agreed and then like and then I had a run I thought that was more embarrassing running laps around everybody right but like like when he said he wanted to give me

a break like the [ __ ] breaks it was like Screech to a hall everybody was like did he just say wait does that guy why the [ __ ] does that guy get a break you know what I mean your break was D laps yeah and yeah and then and cyberg came up to me and um they didn't I didn't have a ghee yet I hadn't bought a ghee and I hadn't found a ghee to fit me so I had I I just bought a ghee but I only had a white belt right I

oh I got the ghee at Gracie Raleigh my home Dojo right uh and then they only had a white belt so I had a white belt so I was white belting it but really I was a blue belt so and when it came to Roland cyborg is like who are you man I'm like Coach and he's like who are you man who are you I thought you like a spy yeah he's like why are you here and I'm like I just I just well my brother lives here coach and I called ahead of time and

I asked if I could come do Jiu-Jitsu I'm just trying to get a couple days while I'm on the road he's like man you are no white belt who are you what are you doing here and I was like well I'm actually a blue belt coach and he was like why didn't you then they got a wall of like old belts which is like the coolest thing I ever [ __ ] seen like a just a hundred just old different all kinds of belt it's [ __ ] cool as [ __ ] my opinion but

he was like why didn't you get one off the extra belt and I was like well you didn't have one coach and he he thinks for a second he was like you are right there's not one your size on the wall and I was like holy [ __ ] there's a ton of belts there for him to even know that like cuz I went through all of them and couldn't fit one you know and uh he was like okay you know so he was just concerned you were Sam bagging or trying to get information I

don't know yeah and then but they were great with me like shout out to Cyborg and Roosevelt um hard dudes yeah they're [ __ ] they're hard down there um Roa all those guys down there but I've been in 26 I think 26 dojos this year man that's wild and then so you're all in I'm all in man I'm in I'm in all the time and then like so one of the things is like I can only go to hixen to get promoted because I'm never in one do Dojo long enough right to like earn

earn a stripe or earn a so I I think it's like a I don't know I feel like I'm fortunate of where I am um you know what I mean and then honestly the reason I went to Hixon is cuz I could and I figured if if I need to be tested for a belt yeah like who else should test me you know what I mean when you get your black belt you get a black belt from Hixon it's like there's very few black belts that hold that kind of weight you know there's like henzo

hion yeah Jean jaac Machado there's a few of those like old school legendary belts yeah yeah [ __ ] yeah Megaton Diaz it's like a few of those legendary old school belts you know sour hean yeah hean yeah yeah I love hean I know I love I actually was hegan's uh um Corner guy when he was in Abu Dhabi in 2003 I was yelling his time out yeah CU I was there with Eddie Bravo oh yeah that's right you know we all trained at the Machado so I know hegan and then hegan's like my friend

do do the time for me and so like he was like he was kind of out of shape and he's still [ __ ] people up but he wanted to know like give me tell me when there's like a minute to go so I can really [ __ ] hit the gas like want to Coast for a little bit and then decide when to go yeah I love I I call it like I call it fat guy Jiu-Jitsu and I think people are shocked when I say that term but really it's it's like the I

don't know the danah her ageless stuff there's there's stuff that bigger guys less athletic are going to have to do because they can't do a flying whatever they can't you know what I mean and like I love his smash game and I uh so I was at a I went to the Machado Camp it was him Roger Carlos and John oh John Machado I love that guy too you know John sure uh he carries he carries condom holsters nice yeah he's great man um but I went to their summer camp and I was like heyan

can I get a picture and like he was sitting on the couch and Carlos is like you know typical bigger brother [ __ ] get the [ __ ] up you're lazy kind of dogging him so I was like I was like you don't have to get up coach so I sat on his lap and he was like what the [ __ ] that's hilarious but yeah uh I went to a Machado camp this year I spent a lot of time with rapael lado I love that dude that guy's a [ __ ] Legend man

like I I got invited to Felipe a Costa's kind of and a affiliate training with Raphael like shout out to Raphael he's a [ __ ] amazing every one of his black belts gave me time like uh and then phelip a Costa like just [ __ ] Next Level man and look it gives me hope as an old guy like I know I'm 55 and I know I want to win the [ __ ] 55y old bracket but why the [ __ ] do I need to be in the 55y old bracket you know what

I mean if my Jiu-Jitsu is good enough I should be able to fight anyone right and that's what gives me hope of [ __ ] carrying on that one day like cuz you know all I do is fight these young guys and yeah sure they beat me right now but like you know how many times did Helio get crushed right you know what I'm saying so like it's the beauty of Jiu-Jitsu is the age should be [ __ ] the least in this equation you know what I me so that's kind of where I stand

and I'll tell you man anytime someone can [ __ ] put it to me where I'm about to go down I couldn't be [ __ ] happier man I had this black belt the other day out of nowhere just [ __ ] smash me and like and then he lets I tap he lets me up and I just got the biggest smile on my face and he was like looking at me and I was like that was [ __ ] amazing coach I was like you ain't never smash me like that right and and he

he just kind of looking at me and just [ __ ] tackled him again you know what I mean [ __ ] went right back to Smashing me you know what I mean like uh I just love it man that's the best attitude for learning there's no better well I as a human being I need to learn something every day I think you're the same way in a lot of ways like I don't care what it is I think it's good for you yeah I do too I think it keeps your brain healthy 100% I

think it keeps Alzheimer [ __ ] all that [ __ ] away yeah I think that's why people get old it's one of the reasons other than your body failing is your gets old yeah you're not stimulating it yeah for real right John this is a [ __ ] awesome conversation I really appreciate it I had a great time yeah thank you and I can't wait to read your book so okay I'm going to get some rounds in the future when you're healthy yes all right i' love to get some rounds with you uh I

definitely want to come back kill Tony last night [ __ ] amaz it's like bucket list you come to the club anytime you want man I I couldn't thank you enough like uh I know I came here yesterday not a big de deal to me right cuz like yo I got killed Tony out of this deal like uh last night was [ __ ] funny man this guy told a joke last night the funniest [ __ ] joke I think I ever heard in my life I don't know if I could say it or not

look like there was a guy just kind of shorter guy a white guy beard and he just read jokes he just said like random jokes oh was one of the bucket PS yeah there a bucket pole guy and then like he said this joke want to hear sure okay this the [ __ ] funniest thing I heard in a long time uh why don't police have Turtles as pets why cuz you can't kneel on their neck this I was like oh my fuing God like next level right there well listen Brother anytime you want to

come to the club more than welcome thank you very much for being here oh man any was a great conversation I really enjoyed it thanks for all the swag thanks for let me hold the evil hat yeah yeah well I got to put it back in its box uh if people want to find you online Sheriff of Bagdad Doom Sheriff of Baghdad so tactical either one will get you to me like you just you die you you type in Sheriff of Baghdad and a ton of [ __ ] of me pops up and someone whoever

the publisher is pop on it I'm sure H me up I'm sure that book's insane all right yeah thank you very much brother appreciate you all right bye everybody [Music] [Applause] [Music]