every human being is a Creator and they are creating their life so it's not that our thoughts are powerful it's that we are powerful and so when we focus on a thought and we really hold that Focus that thought will manifest in our life you are always being moved toward magnificence even when we're in Breakdown stress and feel like we're suffering how are we on track when we're in that moment well we are and that night that I talked about where everything collapsed in a heap and and I was going to be broke my health
was really bad my relationships were in a mess my father had died really suddenly he was young but if any of those things hadn't happened I would never ever have discovered the secret should we be thinking more about our thoughts or our feelings when it comes to manifesting and attracting abundance good question you know what I would say I would say I think you got to have a dream the school of greatness really yeah please welcome Le how welcome back everyone at the school of greatness very excited about our guest we have the inspiring Ronda
burn in the house I'm so grateful that you're here oh thank you so much for having me here we were just talking about this um right before that you have sold with the secret almost 34 million copies are in print around the world translated in over 50 languages um and I believe this is one of your first down interviews in person since you did Oprah about 16 years ago that's true you've done a few virtual interviews over Zoom we did one that got millions of views around the world and um and you are back in
person I'm so grateful that you're here because there's definitely an energy about you in person that brings a different element and I'm excited to talk about the things some things that we covered in the previous interview but even more because you have this incredible piece of art that you've come out with called these manifestation cards uh the secret manifestation cards which are beautiful and I want to go through a number of these today and talk about this but you have received so much celebration over the last 16 years since the secret came out yeah but
you've also had criticism of the secret and what this is yeah and so for people that don't know what the secret is if they didn't see our previous interview and this is their first time hearing about you and it's their first time saying what is the law of attraction and the secret right can you explain what the Law of Attraction and manifesting actually is in simple terms before we dive in deeper sure GE it would be interesting to say what interesting to say how I describe it now after all these years um basically every not
basically actually every human being is a Creator and they are creating their life and we don't know for many of us we did not know that that was the case and we are creating our life through our thoughts so it's not that our thoughts are powerful it's that we are powerful and so when we focus on a thought and we really hold that Focus that thought will manifest in our life and so we create our own life through our thoughts and through the mind the Mind our mind is super super super powerful yeah for good
or For Worse yes so for example um we can talk about what we want and we will manifest that you know and so some people they just see the abundance in the world you know that's all that they see they don't they don't see any lack they just see abundance and everything seems to go right for them everything falls into place for them they invest in this and it's skyrockets and they they buy a house in this place and that suburb goes crazy and it's like everything they touch turns to Gold but it's because they
have the mindset that is toward wealth and abundance and they don't have a mindset toward luck and we have a lack mindset when we say things like I'm broke I don't have enough um I don't have enough to pay my bills and you see whatever we say is what our life will be and so if we are saying I don't have enough money then by law of attraction we will not have enough money we will continue to not have enough money so what we have to do is we need to speak about what we want
and we need to talk about for example if it's money or if it's health or if we're not feeling really great then we can talk about what it feels like to be really well instead of talking about not being well right because if we're talking about not being well we're attracting more of that more of that more of that right and so that's basically law of attraction I mean it is so wonderful and it's so intricate and the more that you the more that it becomes a part of your life the more you see the
little kind of twists and turns synchronicities yeah like for for example if if if you're saying yeah I'm so overwhelmed there's just so much going on at the moment and I can't get on top of things and I'm just overwhelmed guess what guess what's coming more overwhelming more you know so when we speak about things that are frustrating us that are overwhelming that are stressing us out that we're in lack of when we speak about them or we're constantly in a loop of thinking of those thoughts and then speaking them to ourselves or to others
what I'm hearing you say is it's going to be a lot harder to get Beyond those strugg then to speak in a different way or think in a different way is that what I'm hearing you say that's what that's the case and in fact until we think differently it won't change really it wouldn't matter all the action in the world all the action in the world will not override a belief that we have and usually when we speak for example if I'm saying I'm so overwhelmed so much is happening and when we're saying I'm so
overwhelmed we believe it like we're saying it with conviction right and so the fact that we believe it it it's not going to change we're going to keep more things are going to come more things are going to come and even if someone let's say they they did work hard for a long time and they're feeling this overwhelmed and all of a sudden they started to make a lot more money but it's not going to change the overwhelm if they keep thinking it that's right so more money might come because you spent more time in
this world and worked hard and it's just your time to make more right but you still might say well I'm still overwhelmed it's not enough right this not enough feeling even though you have more y you're still stressed and overwhelmed you're still that's why you see people with money some people with money who aren't fulfilled or happy they're still overwhelmed that's right yeah so how do we shift it so that when more comes our way we're actually not feeling more overwhelmed but more in abundance and and grateful for that it's so simple it's so easy
we just have to talk about think about what we want and do we want to feel overwhelmed and no we don't so what do what do you want I want all of the success but I want it to be effortless and easy and I want to have lots of spare time and I want to really be enjoying it and I want like talk about what you want and talk about what you want until you have what you want when people talk about what they don't want consistently what typically happens they get that that's what they
get more of what they don't want yeah they get more of what they don't want if we could just talk about what we want our life would be incredible incredible amazing spectacular that's it just to talk about but we are so we have a world that's very um beautiful but orientated towards drama and you know news is negative and uh so you know it's it's challenging for people but we're all in it together yes because we're all dealing with the mind and the mind that might be delivering a whole lot of negative thoughts but not
one of us it's not harder for one or easier for another we all have this mind that can be like a flat mate and chatter chatter chatter non-stop chatter keep going on you know um so we all we're all dealing with that and the mind it's just a uh it's just a program it's not an entity it's just a program and so through I think because certainly through my experience through the secret we you can to totally train your mind to be positive so that it is not leaning toward the ne negative all of the
time and positive is just what you want right right when someone is thinking or speaking about what they want does that mean that they are in lack of it or how do they speak about it where it's not from a place of lack right um it's a good question because me like I want this I want this but I don't have it so how do we speak about it where we're in gratitude and positive around it as opposed to I really want this thing but it's not my life right now but I want it yeah
but the problem is you just canceled out the manifestation when you said but it's not in my life right now ah yeah because if you if you're saying that I you know I well you could say it like this I would really love to have this it's a little bit softer right than I want but you but to manifest something that you to deliberately manifest you have to want it but then you can't have any thoughts of well it's not here yet because the the moment you say it's not here yet what does law of
attraction do it's not here yet and it's constantly not here yet yeah so say so say this again how do we really manifest something we we put it out there we speak it or we think it but then we detach from it yeah and you know here's the thing we so don't realize our own amazing power that we can just ask for something and it will be given to now here's what here's what the criticism online is for the secret or the law of attraction or anyone talking about manifesting okay this is what I'll see
people and this is typically people in lack or maybe people with more of a negative frustration because they don't have what they want they will say or these are comments that I'll see you can't just think something and expect it to appear without putting in the hard work without action without consistency it's just the world just doesn't work like that when you see comments like that or people say this how would you respond to someone saying thinking that or saying that well I don't um I always kind of feel that everybody has the right to
think what they want and believe what they want and I I know it's not the case um I remember Lester levenson said something so incredible it was a wonderful teacher he's not alive anymore um but he was very simple in the way that he talked and he he told these students that if you want something I could lock you up in a room and padlock that room and you ask for that and you know you have it right you know you have it now and it will come really yeah it will come and nothing in
this world can stop us so wow right what are some examples in your life where You' you've thought or spoken about something you desired or wanted and it has come effortlessly and or maybe an example of people that have written about their success stories is there anything you can think of right um or maybe for a long time they'd struggled in manifesting or attracting what they wanted but they started to apply this and really believed it and that thing came to them right well when I did a book signing um and I had I got
to talk to all of these different people and every single person at that book signing told me about how their life had completely changed wow and what was amazing was so somebody would say that they wanted to have they were working I don't know cleaning a bank or something and they wanted to have their own Sound Studio video and that is what they decided to manifest and they visualized and visualized and they felt it and they wouldn't allow any thoughts of Doubt to enter their mind and they are now running one of the top sound
studios in La wow but not just that they met their perfect partner they bought their dream house they have you know two children or they travel every every single thing that they wanted they received and that was what was so amazing about all of these people when I was signing books it wasn't just one thing in their life but these people were amazing they did gratitude all of the time or they did affirmations all of the time and they had a complete change within themselves you know to be be kind you know to other people
and so they would think positively they were aware when negative thoughts came and they would stop them in their tracks and so for me I think the biggest manifestation for me was the secret yeah because I W I was um a mother of two children in Melbourne Australia I had this night where Henny peny the sky fell in everything in my life completely collapsed right and I had a huge Awakening that night pardon me and realized how realized all of this and how incredible we are and what we can do and what Mastery we have
over the world and there and then I I looked out at the world and I'm like no one knows this no one knows this and so I was determined that I would find a way to take this to the world I had no idea what shape or form it would take or or but that night I determined that that is what I would do and So eventually a whole team were gathered I had a production company at that point and everybody might think oh if you had a production company it's so easy for you to
make a documentary aha but let me tell you ah there's a snag I was $2 million in debt really that production company was $2 million in debt and my accountant told me you're going to be broke in 30 days and lose everything lose everything and to this day I don't know how it didn't happen I do know because I didn't allow that thought I only allowed the thought of taking this to the world and nothing else mattered wow but getting this out into the world and so um yeah but getting back to your point I
would like I don't want to I remember when um when I did time 100 and they had all the cameras that was an interesting experience well were in caret and walking down and they were all like what do you say to the naysayers and I said good for them good for them because I think one problem we have in the world is people wanting other people to believe what they believe you know I discovered something incredible I absolutely know it's the case through my experience through tens of thousands and millions of people's experience I know
it's the case but if there's somebody that isn't ready for this in their life that's fine yeah right right that's totally fine because a lot of people feel like they might be in a breakdown you know during that moment of your life you have were struggling with you know business different things in your life that were happening relationships it sounds like there were some challenges boiling up yeah but then this wisdom within you came out and you decided to act on it yeah and one of these cards again this is this is a beautiful piece
of art these cards these manifestation cards and I want people to get this we'll have everything Linked UP And I've gone through a lot of these already they're amazing I wish I would have created this this is incredible it says um this card is great for this point of the conversation where it says everything is always on track always no matter where you are in your life currently and no matter how difficult things might appear to be in this moment you are always being moved toward magnificence yes so why are we moved toward magnificence even
when we're in Breakdown stress and feel like we're suffering how are we on track when we're in that moment well we are though we are and and um I mean my if if if I use myself as an example and sometime excuse me for doing that but that night that I talked about where everything collapsed in a heap and I was going to be broke my health was really bad my relationships were in a mess my father had died really suddenly he was young and he had died really suddenly and my parents just had the
love affair that I've most beautiful love affair I've ever seen so my mother was in terrible grief and so I had all of these things and then I was going to be bust in 30 30 days wow so I was able to turn all of that around and if that hadn't happened that night and I've thought about all of the things that led up to that night and you know I was making six do documentary films about m murder can you imagine wow yeah a subject like and it was heart-wrenching cuz these were unsolved murders
and talking to the families and everything like that but it was Perfection the way that all of these things lined up that I was making these movies and then that I plummeted into grief with my father that I was so stressed about my mother and all of these things led to this incredible night on the 9th of September at 9:30 at night and where everything fell in a heap and I we could all say oh but that was so terrible all those things happened and not long before that you know years before that I'd been
fired and never imagined I'd ever get fired but if any of those things hadn't happened I would never ever have discovered the secret and so and I've been through lots of tough things since you know it hasn't been perfect when no when we're human you know we're going to have things um we're going to have things that will come that will have us go further reach further be more magnificent be more understanding be more compassionate you know when you lose somebody really close to you you become very compassionate you know it helps to in instill
all of that and so absolutely I say that we are all on track the first thing people always ask me is what do you feel about the world do you know oh my gosh it's a mess and I just say everything's unfolding perfectly it really and truly is it's unfolding perfectly and the same for everybody and somebody might be going through a really rough diagnosis but from where I am there's no end for any of us really no we are we are Consciousness there's no end right right yeah so it's not going to end even
if there's a bad diagnosis in our in our life no this is just this is just the vehicle this is just the car you know that we're that we're using to travel around in the world and so um yeah you this is one another one of your cards that I love that speaks into this and I hope you don't mind me reading some of these this one says be grateful for your challenges and and you wrote all of these from your wisdom which I think is amazing it says be grateful for your challenges it's all
of the hard things and apparently negative things that happen to us which give us deep desire to change our lives be grateful for them because they have given you the strength and determination to manifest something different and you will change your life and we were talking about this beforehand M about how hard it is to watch people suffer how hard it is to watch people you care about suffer people struggling in the world that you don't know about and seeing suffering happening it's very challenging to witness especially if you have a lot of compassion in
your heart if you have if you're empathetic towards individuals and if you felt pain yourself yes yes very challenging he's very so how can people be grateful for their challenges even though we know I know you know and I know that our biggest challenges of our past got us to where we are today yeah it's like those moments of complete pain and suffering taught me my biggest lessons which have given me strength and courage today yeah but how can people fully understand that when they have a horrible disease when they've lost someone in their life
too soon when there's an unfortunate war in their individual life or in their country they're going bankrupt how can we Empower people to be grateful for their challenges when there's so much pain and suffering in their life because being grateful is what will change their lives and so the difficulties that they're facing I mean I we we have a lot of Stories on our website about people with health challenges and how those those health challenges just disappeared with love and GR itude so and just being grateful um being grateful is I mean that that is
just number one that's the fastest way for anybody to change their life and I think if if you went out and asked most people they would be they would say oh yeah I you know I know it's important to be grateful I think most people would agree with that I grateful isn't spiritual or you know it's just being grateful and I I just if you want to see the power that you have to change your life really fast then start doing gratitude and it will just blow your mind it changes everything again next card I
just turned to it is gratitude is the great multiplier set the universal forces in your favor for tomorrow tonight before you fall asleep go back over your whole day in your mind and replay each good moment feeling genuine gratitude for each one this practice ensures the universe will make your tomorrow a day filled with good moments and plenty to be grateful for for the next day as well absolutely and when we are ungrateful when we are not in appreciation yeah for the good the bad the ugly yeah what happens in our lives when we lack
gratitude we're taking things for granted which means things will be taken from us oh yeah yeah when we take things for granted they they get taken from us yeah gratitude will hold absolutely everything to us in our life it will just it will stick everything to us how do we be grateful when we're in suffering or sadness or loss I know it's really hard but there's I guess there's like there's like suffering sadness and loss um that continues in that way or there suffering with gratitude and the suffering gets easier right well there's sadness with
gratitude and the sadness begins to lift MH or the loss with gratitude um I know because of my mother was so grief stricken with my father having died and what brought brought my mother right out of it was gratitude she was just so grateful that they got to have all of the years together that they had that they had five children there were five of us and they had five children that they had an incredible life that they loved they loved each other was love at first sight and they loved and adored each other until
the last moment and she was so glad that he didn't suffer her she just found so many things to be grateful for and this was the love of her life but from doing that gratitude she just lifted herself up and began to live a new life you know so so what happened was she reduced the you know reduced the the pain the pain and the grief because eventually it will lessen but she and she just felt absolute love for everything that uh I remember her saying to me she's not alive now um but I remember
her saying to me you know I've had such a blessed life I was like wow you know you went through a war you went through you know they didn't have like I came from very humble beginnings that my parents did not have much and yet she saw her life as rich and blessed wow you know that's beautiful a lot of it is p perspective you know and if if we hold on to resentment or lack of forgiveness in our life yeah are we able to manifest and attract beautiful things if we hold on to resentment
and anger and don't forgive I think we can still because we're attracting every day so I think we can still attract things but will those things bring us peace and happiness not when your heart is full of resentment because if if if you full of resentment you what you will attract is more people circumstances and events that will cause resentment oh my gosh yeah and and that's just to show you that there's something to let go of you know everything's very beautiful everything's beautiful can you explain that what does that mean something to let go
of so it's time to let go of that resentment that because that original resentment is attached to some story or another that we have about somebody did something to us and and and isn't it crazy that maybe somebody did but but then that we would carry that for years and by carrying it we keep attracting more of more and more of it so that just it just shows you how all of those religious texts and everything they got it really right yeah of course when they said not to you know love thy enemy and all
of those things that was said all of those things make total sense don't carry those things with you well that lack of forgiveness that resentment is an energetic Force that's almost attracting more of those things and resisting the abundance of it peace and Harmony it when you're carrying and holding on to that anger you're resisting peace yeah this is another card again I'm just in the flow right here that says feelings are powerful manifestors remember that worry attracts more worry just what you said unhappiness attracts more unhappiness fear attracts more fear and remember that Joy
attracts more joy happiness attracts more happiness love attracts more love yeah and it's the the times what I'm hearing you say the times when it feels like it's the hardest is the times when it's the most important that's right to be in a state of gratitude happiness and love y because holding on to anger unhappiness and worry only attracts more of that more of it and I think everybody experienced that right during Co yes right with all of the worry about coid which then turned into fear and people became more fearful more fearful and then
things seemed to get worse and then more fearful and things got worse and things got right when you got the whole world when you got the when you have the majority of the world in so much fear it's going to get worse it is yeah do we should we be thinking more about our thoughts or our feelings when it comes to manifesting and attracting abundance good question um you know what I would say I would say for people to choose whatever's easiest for them uh I did thoughts I became very aware of my thoughts but
too I have to say I also became super super sensitive to what I was feeling so much so that if I wasn't feeling good I would not open my computer or any M why is that because if I'm on a frequency if I'm on a frequency of frustration when I open up those emails in comes frustration in comes problems and so I wouldn't answer my phone if I wasn't feeling good and in fact the whole secret team knows very well if you can't get Alla no for them I told I said to them if if
you don't feel well please don't touch the secret and if you had an argument with your spouse or you got really you know fell out of bed the wrong way take the day off don't because a secret unless you can shift out of it quickly if you're unable to shift which they all can now but this was early days so yeah so I I was really really careful to so feeling good um I guess if you ask people how did they feel they might say oh yeah I feel you know I feel pretty good or
they but what I want to know is do you feel happy because if you're not feeling happy then you're unhappy like we could say there's just two you know too black and white right happy or not happy exactly yeah and so if you're not feeling and if you think about a time in your life when you felt happy and I don't mean over excited or what I mean is just happy you know just feeling full and happy and it's a great day and you're really positive and friendly to everybody yeah that's happy and the other
that kind of numb feeling or you know it's another day kind of that's unhappiness I will say Ronda I I I grew up not thinking that I was very smart or intelligent I struggled in school so I had this belief that I wasn't smart enough for really anyone or anything and I was never going to be able to figure things out cuz I had this kind of belief based on on testing poorly just struggling in school was hard to read and write and I just felt like everyone around me was smarter based on kind of
school system and tests now I learned later that that wasn't true in other areas of life I had more Street smarts rather than School smarts but I remember in my early 20s not thinking I had skills to go into a career because I lacked success in school and early early on I was trying to figure out how can I start to make money how can I get opportunities for me when I don't have these skills and what I said to myself early on was I'm going to bring joy and happiness everywhere I go when I
would enter a room I would I would think about okay this is a pathway to Joy and I would Smile as I would cross the doorway I would cross it I would just open My Heart To Joy and smile and enter a room and smile at people and when I would smile at other people and just ask them a question how's your day they would smile back and bring that mirroring energy in this next card here you say live in joy Humanity needs your joy planet earth needs your joy the universe needs your joy and
that's why you are here find what brings you Joy start living it and you will have a fulfilled you will you will have fulfilled your purpose and when I didn't know what my purpose was I just said I'm going to be joy and that is purpose and things started to unfold in my life Financial opportunities people wanted to be around me more and they wanted to help me I didn't know why except for that I brought joy and happiness so I want people to know that you know when you bring joy even if you don't
know what direction you're heading or what what should I do next at the next chapter of my life Joy unlocks opportunities like you said and I love this message in this card here well that that was just such an Insight that you received you know that's like a Divine message to you to do that because on the frequency of joy is every that you could ever want really yeah everything yeah it's not when you're in Anger join but I mean people must notice you know I've this thing it's so obvious look at your life and
you can see how you're creating it like you get angry and then one thing happens and then oh no something else happens and then something else happens and something else you know I mean we've all had those days a snowball bad things yeah and we just keep creating one after the other yes but yeah on Joy because Joy is at the same frequency is love uh-huh so it's right up there and it is incredible and that's why why in the secret documentary and in the secret why I say nothing is more important than that you
feel good mhm feel because when you feel good you're on a feel-good frequency and absolutely everything you encounter in the day all the people all the circumstances all the events will be Feelgood they will be things that make you feel even better even better even better even better so yeah there's a quote from famous football coach in America his name is Vince Lombardi who passed away but he was a he won a number of championships for the Green Bay Packers I believe it was his quote that he would say to his uh you know his
team his his athletes was that you'll he what did he say he said either be fired up with enthusiasm or you'll be fired with enthusiasm right it's like you either got to bring the joy is what he was saying bring the energy bring the positive excitement or you'll be fired passionately right because it's hard to manifest or excel at a high Elite level in sports or something if you're not bringing passion and joy in a in a loving happy Joyful Way it's hard to maybe you could have some success but to kind of maintain that
level of opportunities and flow it's hard to do that without it right wow that's really interesting cuz that's the same with life too mhm well right is really like for for example when you're in joy you will manifest so fast it's a really high frequency and you will manifest really really quickly the thing is if you're in grief and despair it's very slow right and that is so that's a protective mechanism for all of us um because I had one time in my life where I hit uh depression and uh because I was extremely worried
about my daughter and I I just it was just like this black cloud and I and I thought I have completely thought myself to hear I could see all of the scary thoughts that I believed and that and and I am here now here is where I am and I knew I was here because to experience it so I could help people out of depression and so so no one else created you to get there you cre you created yourself to yeah because I just believed all these thoughts that I was all these scary thoughts
I was just believing them all and my daughter's fine and well today you know they were just they were just all thoughts and and yeah so now um I mean I'm really I I guess really fortunate I tried everything that I knew which was to be grateful um and to think positive thoughts so I tried thinking positive thoughts I could feel how weak they were what do you mean by that like they they didn't have a lot of power behind them so they were like I'm going to I'm happy but I'm not really happy not
feeling it because the Depression was you know it was strong and so what I did was I decided to not resist the depression but to love it tell me more and it melted away what what does that look like if someone's going through three to six month I had to imagine this I had to I had to create like a picture of this but I I kind of like I could feel the sensation of it because depression is just a sensation all of my feelings are just Sensations and they're not actually us they're just they're
just a sensation but I could would I I would get that sensation and I would feel that sensation of depression and then I just imagined putting my arms around it and pulling it into me and that was hard to do not pushing a way of resisting because that's what we do you see we push away bad feelings CU we don't want to feel the pain right we numb them we try to escape from them exactly we do everything but I did the opposite because I knew what you resist persists right yes and so I just
imagine putting my arms around the moment that I did it it just evaporated that whole feeling of depression and then a couple of hours later it would started to come back not nearly that same level did it again in 3 days was totally gone how long had you've been experiencing the depression for was this weeks was this months it was like couple of weeks couple of weeks M and if you would have resisted it or numbed it or tried to escape it yeah I'd still be there really yeah so what I'm hearing you say is
that you embracing the sadness the pain the grief the loss whatever it might be but embracing it and and creating a relationship with it yeah as opposed to pushing it away yeah allowed it to flow through you and leave you yeah it can't stay because nothing negative can and remain in the face of Love wow love is the light and everything negative you could say is darkness is one way to look at it and so if there's love the darkness just disappears and that's why it just evaporated was the most incredible feeling and I knew
I'm experiencing this so I can share it with people how does someone I mean the secret 34 million plus copies you know tens of millions of people have watched the the movie all the other books and programs and products that you have have been you know sold by millions of people have been bought these things how does someone believe they are worthy of great things the way you have been able to do great things in your life and impact the world in such a magnitude that you have done how can someone know and trust that
something is destined for them maybe it's not at this level but something is great as Destin for them how do they know that and did you know this your entire life leading up to this that something like this was supposed to happen no I didn't really no but the moment I discovered it I knew it absolutely knew it I knew this is why I was here I knew it with every fiber of my being yeah so but prior to that I didn't I was um really ambitious okay you were D in you had a bus
was driven but when I say ambitious I was only wanting to perfect be great myself I wasn't in competition with anybody I wasn't trying to be better than that person or I just wanted to be the best that I could be uh and so I I didn't but after I discovered the secret and my whole life turned completely around 360 I looked back on my life and I saw that every single thing in my life was leading to this really yes because just even things like I worked in The Newsroom for in a radio station
and um and so when the secret went crazy like crazy and I just had every news media Outlet in the world in every country coming at us and I did very little and because I knew that what happens what can happen is that the media will build you up to tear you down wow and I knew that because I had worked in news and I'd worked in media and so I had seen it is that why you did very you did Oprah and that was really I did Oprah and I did Oprah because I knew
Oprah lived this MH and you see I didn't want to go onto anything where I didn't want to have arguments with people because I'm not trying to convince you to do anything I discovered something and I wanted to share it and if you find that it's incredible for your life then I'm so happy if you if you don't want to hear about it that's fine too so I didn't want to get into situations with people where they're like oh this is you know as if the mind can do this this is all there is his
mind you know they didn't even realize like it'll be hundreds of years before before it is realized what the substance of the universe really really is but right now we can use this knowledge to completely create the life we deserve to have and what you were talking about about being this great greatness I think some of us were born to do something like this but then there are others and I think about this with my mother right my mother stopped working when she was like 19 years old and she had five children but my mother
achieved greatness because she was an incredible mother and she was an incredible wife and so her her level was different and I think you know what you did or what I did not everybody is prepared to take the risks you took risks yes you can't you can't do it without the risks yeah you right I took huge risks I I put everything on the line I would every I would have been on the streets you know I I I like mortgaged overdraft I did everything possible to get the secret out to the world and I
I didn't care honestly what happened to me after it I just wanted to get it to the world and that was it and and so you you have to have there's something within you that really pushes you but then there are people that they might love what they do you know and they don't want to be running a company they don't want the stress of that yeah they love their family they want to spend as much time with their family as possible they just really love to have a better house or you know um and
I think and and I think honestly if you can live your life and you can bring joy to other people just by your presence just by your presence if you can do that oh my God you've lived the greatest life possible you really have because every single person their true nature is joy and their true nature is love and that's why you feel so good when you're in Joy right right yeah and that's why we feel so good when we're loving and being loving is smiling to that person like you did you know I'm opening
the doors and I'm in a small yes absolutely yeah I mean you talking about kindness this is the next thing on top of here you just said kindness we're we're in sync right here kindness kindness changes everything want to see your life change for the better today then be the kindest you've ever been to every person you encounter when you do that it's hard to have a bad day or you can't it's not possible that's why just do that you know like I'm like just do do that one thing and you don't take my word
for it try it for yourself and just see for yourself what happens yeah I remember this person contacted us and really early on and he said he decided that he was just going to be happy I think it was a hairdresser and he said I'm just going I'm making a decision that I am going to be happy and I'm going to see what happens and it was incredible what happened in his life got his own hairdressing salon and all of just because he made a decision to be happy what what's on the happiness frequency everything
that you want to make you happy absolutely you know so I'm I'm curious about after the secret came out and every news Outlet in the world wanted to hear more about what you were creating you do Oprah which that you know blows up everywhere you you're time 100 most influential person in the world you're selling tens of millions of copies within the first few years this message was everywhere you could not go into a store without seeing this book he true how did you navigate the success and not let that weight or pressure break you
H because some people want the impact this the success but then they're not ready for it how did you prepare yourself and was that a conscious decision not to do a lot of interviews after that to not be picked at or try to be pulled down in certain ways like that was a conscious decision it was um but like did you feel ready for the success did you feel prepared or or did you feel like this was a little overwhelming I never felt it was me what do you mean I just I just it was
the message that was the star interesting and I never felt that it was me like even writing the secret book I absolutely knew that and making the documentary like it was a miracle what happened making that documentary the way everything that we ever needed just landed right at our feet I it was it was so spectacular it was the most incredible thing I've ever seen and I just knew the universe you know just putting that in that most affectionate way I knew the universe was with us and so and writing the book it was the
same thing like I felt such a rush uh in writing that book I couldn't write it fast enough all the things that I'd learned and practiced and I wanted to share with people um but you know I had like I got a burst blood vessel in one of my eyes I had my feet got all cracked um all the skin on my feet got cracked from high frequency in writing that book really yeah cuz you said you were telling me before off camera that you wrote this book in Santa Monica in an apartment just a
few miles from here with my laptop on my lap with your laptop on your lap on a small little apartment were you on the beach were you off the beach were you what was your environment like off the beach it was a very simple little corporate apartment um the documentary had been released and and I was writing the book and I had I it was it was just the perfect situation I knew exactly everything that I wanted to say it was really just rushing through me and uh and because of the frequency you had like
you know so you had your body was feeling my body really yeah that is f and after it I wasn't wipe out you were like exhausted you were like energetically drained energetically drained yeah and so then with each then with with each book that I wrote was I tried to manage that more you know that I that I wasn't so wiped out now I could write a book and not at all right yeah but were you a writer before this did you no do you know what this was this your first book The Secret is
your first book and you sold 34 million copies that is crazy I know right I remember when um beyond words uh contacted me and said we want you to do the sacred book well I knew there'd be secret book cuz i' had seen it in bookstores in my mind all around the world wow in the front window I'd seen it I didn't know what it looked like but I could feel the book and and I said yes like I knew there'd be a secret book and and I said okay and they said and we want
you to write it and I said I'm not a writer and guess what I heard those words and I'm like yes I am m you it yeah because I'm not a writer means that you will not be a writer right and I'm like yes I am because I can do anything that I put my mind to you any everybody can do anything they put their mind to and so I and and so I wrote and I I was very specific I wanted to write to people as though was just talking to them mhm M and
not you know any kind of incredible huge words or anything like that I just I wanted it to be super super simple because law of attraction was a hard concept to get your head around at that time it's a lot it's understood a little more these days but and this is this is what I love about what you did because you first said you saw it in your mind and you felt the book in book stor you felt it so you were connecting the thought the visualization of what you saw in your mind and the
feeling you had those two things connected it sounded like and this is where I think some people get wrong about the law of attraction or the secret is they you know you had those two things the thoughts and the feelings as if it was already happening but then you took action you wrote the book you didn't just say it's magically going to like be in bookstores there had to be some action somewhere whether it was you or someone else yeah but I had the publisher come to me to say you to write the book so
I attracted that but do you know what with that book I honestly feel like I was just a stenographer you were just downloading and that's why in answer to your question how did I manage all of that honestly I never I just felt like I was the luckiest person in the world to be a part of that Journey but I know without a doubt the universe was just there it just it this had to come out into the world and it was there to help at every tone if someone is applying these principles and think
they're not drawing in the person the the publisher the the the right person to hire the thing yeah to support them in manifesting what they want does that mean they're not ready for that thing to come out into the world is it not the right timing you know cuz you could have wanted this 20 years prior but it didn't happen then it happened at the moment you were ready for it it sounds like yeah so how can people let go of their frustration of really wanting something to happen now versus knowing when it's the right
timing for it to come into the world right so the difference is just simply belief so you have to believe you have it already so can if I explain what my belief was like my belief was a notch above believing it had already happened mine was knowing it had already happened what's the difference between believing and knowing because one because knowing is the highest you can get and it's actually knowing is beyond the mind but believe but you can manifest with believing too so I didn't just believe this had happened I absolutely knew it wow
and I knew knew it and I knew what it was going to do and I I how can I um it felt I knew it so much that I felt like I had already lived the entire journey of making it and it coming out and that I had such a great time that I was reliving it oh that's pretty cool that's how that's how it felt this is this is fascinating what you just said this unlocked something for me um the difference between believing and knowing yeah I grew up in a religion uh the religion
of Christian Science which is all about healing and applying healing thinking and applying the mind to the material world but really there is no Material World anyways but one of the things that I would hear over and over again when I felt like something was off in my life or I felt like I was feeling a pain or something physical in my body was off out of alignment we would have Christian Science practitioners spiritual practitioners that would give us um prescriptions but they weren't medications they were spiritual medications essentially right gotcha and it was and
they were always called truths and they would always say know the truth they didn't say believe this they would say know the truth and when you know it it is true and it it is a reality and it was hard it was confusing as a kid because I was like well but I feel this thing and there's this pain but how can I know it but what I'm hearing you say is believing can can really help you in a big way but knowing is what unlocks manifestation into another level yeah knowing it's just done I
mean there have been times for everybody when they knew something they AB absolutely knew something was going to happen before it happened so let's say and how do they know that yes how did you know that and you don't know how you knew it it's like an Intuition or a feeling or something yeah right you knew it like somebody's having a baby and they don't know what sex it is but you're like oh I know it's a girl I absolutely know it's a girl and everybody thinks you're just guessing like everybody else no you're like
I know it I know it's a girl or there's a spinning wheel and you all of a sudden you're like I know it's going to be number 11 I know it and it's number 11 but you knew it absolutely knew it how does that happen yeah because it's above the mind it's above the mind so you you you definitely know it so you that's crazy how so you don't have to be at knowing to manifest you just have to be at believing and might I just say that you you just have to be more believing
than not believing so that person who's not you know they're waiting and it hasn't manifested and they're here and here the difference is they're not believing it is done already the moment they're believing more that it's done than it hasn't arrived it'll manifest how do we stay patient and see well if you need patience you're not believing it's manifested right interesting so is there can you give me so you you're done for right there so give me an examp give me an example if there's an example in your life personally or something you've seen from
a friend or someone who's read the book where they were like man I've been waiting for this to happen it's been 10 years I feel like it's supposed to happen I'm believing it's happening but I haven't got the thing that I've wanted yet or haven't it hasn't happened yet hasn't come to fruition yet right should I have more patience in manifesting should I expect it's already here now what should I do okay so I've definitely had some people do that one in particular she was wanting to have a baby and get pregnant she had visualized
visualized visualized visualized getting pregnant she had been doing affirmations she'd been Greatful that she was getting pregnant and she's like still I'm not pregnant now I just and I think she'd even done IVF and that hadn't worked and so she'd up yeah and and I just knew that for a woman who can't get pregnant getting pregnant has a lot of resistance around it because when you've not been able to get pregnant get pregnant get pregnant there's like real resistance around that getting pregnant and so much so that the resistance was outweighing her V her resistance
that I'm not pregnant yet was outweighing her visualization all the other things so I said to her I don't want you to visualize that I want you to visualize holding the baby because that's the outcome right MH that's the end result you don't want to be prant for the rest of your life right right you want to be holding the baby so I said to her I want you to visualize holding the baby I want you to hear the baby I want you to feel it in your arms wow pregnant in a month wow and
I've done that with a lot of women this is you know even you saying that I'm not a woman but it's like imagining you know a a child coming into my life from my partner and hearing the baby having the baby against my chest being born you know feeling the heartbeat of the child next to my heartbeat having this beautiful moment like I'm already seeing the future happening now yeah by experiencing that feeling as opposed to like I'm feeling it know I mean you me be careful you me to be careful know do you want
to have children now I do at the right time yes at the right time okay yeah but it's like when you feel that and you really imagine and experience that feeling it's as if it's already happened or it's happening yeah and you're feeling it and there for your allowing that to come to you and you're allowing that as opposed to resisting it Y where this person a friend of yours was like I really want this come here come here but but like it's not here yet I'm so many disappointments you see you know women I
know go through a lot who can't get pregnant so there's just one disappointment after another or maybe they got pregnant and then they miscarried and um somebody else they're two two Australian girls girls uh volleyball players and they playing in the Olympic Games and these girls were just so brilliant so clever they they were not at all the favorites far from the favorites they were way down the way down the chart and what they did was they filled their entire apartment with gold Awards they got everything gold leading up to the Olympic Games and they
had Gold Everywhere they bought all these Awards everywhere do you think anyone could have beaten them at the Olympic Games wow no chance wow the ball was going to bounce in the perfect way they were going to be in the exact perfect position you see because so when we talk about action the kind of action that you have to do for when you have used the mind that action is effortless that's why writing the secret book was effortless it's effortless but if you go out into the world and you're like make this happen and you
want to do all the action oh you're going to struggle oh it's going to be hard you might get there eventually but it's going to be harder than it could be and you'll get there eventually but you only get there eventually because you think it gradually bit by bit that's the only reason you get there because you had the thought oh things are getting better I'm star starting to see success is coming you're having these little thoughts along way that's the only reason you make it you cannot do anything in the world without thought nothing
you show me one invention that's happened without thought right you have to imagine it first right you have to come up with it in your mind and then you alchemize and created in the world exactly mhm so for those first yes so for those girls you see they lived with that gold and saw themselves winning gold and so that that and they I bet if you ask them they would say winning that gold was effortless for them that they just got the right breaks that everything happened the right way for them is it w wow
and you know Sports people are so amazing at visualizing winning right and then it it does look effortless for them because they're in the flow yeah they're not working hard they're working they're they effortlessly moving to their desired result right uh how do we navigate the ego when when let's say when success comes our way you know whether these girls who win the gold medal uh you know an athlete you selling millions of copies in the first year or months or whatever and getting all these opportunities how do we navigate the ego from not consuming
us but success actually allowing us to multiply into greater success yeah really good question how did you navigate that you just you certainly have to remain humble you know and um humble and grateful and I think we've all seen people that have had success and then just Rob just find themselves in the most awful drama of you know terrible situation where they made one mistake and just everything you know the whole World turned against them so you have to remain humble otherwise truly just you're in for a really rough ride and you could visualize all
the most wonderful things and you could you know achieve all of that and manifest all of that but if you don't remain humble because if if you look at it anyway you never did it on your own like even if you just look it physically in the world I mean I knew we had the universe behind us I felt it with every step that we took but but even I've got the most incredible team I mean we did intentions meetings at 11:00 every morning and where we intended and in those meetings we were celebrating the
secret having swept the world and having become a global phenomenon that's what we did in those meetings before the book came out oh yeah but we danced and we celebrated that that's what you've got to do you had the feel of joy and excitement and gra was already done wow yeah if you want to go traveling if you want to see the world and you're like I don't have any money how will I ever go traveling straight away Law of Attraction says okay done you know I don't have any money or but if you want
to go travel and get out your suitcase this is the funniest thing you said this cuz my my fiance um Martha she's Mexican they grew up in this Mexican traditions and over the holidays I don't know this never happened to me growing up in America but over the holidays they would do this thing around Christmas and New Year's her family and I believe this is a Mexican tradition uh but her family they'll all get out suitcases during the holidays and say where do you want to go next year and then we leave the house with
the suitcase and say we're going to Japan we walk out and we skip down the sidewalk with a suitcase me and Martha did and then each family member does this and tells the experience of where they went I'm going here and this is where it's going to feel like and the experience and it's this joy and excitement talking about the trip and we take the suitcase out the door and then we come back and we tell the experience and we said this this last year Japan and now I I we literally just booked our trip
to Japan happened happening in like a month oh I was going to say you are going to Japan yeah it's happening no it's happening we already booked it but but even though I didn't know when or how at the end of last year we set an intention he did we celebrated it we talked about it and we allowed the universe to open up to see when is this possible how is this possible what are we going to be doing right and things are coming to us yeah in a way that's going to create a beautiful
magical experience oh was so fantastic but we took our job I don't know if this is like a Mexican TR but so literally what you said they do every year is really cool because it sets that intention yes it's acting as if is what it is it's acting as if you already have it like I remember there was this lady who wanted to be in the audience on the Oprah show when I was going to be on there and the audience was completely full it was it was booked out but what she did was she
got her suitcase out and she got a flight to Chicago I mean this is somebody really really game and she gets a call a a message on her phone when she lands into Chicago to say come to the studio we've got a seat for you yeah but she had already intended it and went there she had to get a seat you know this is fascinating cuz she really like she really believed in you so acting as if like I I know I wrote this in one of my books but there was uh there was this
woman who wanted a horse she couldn't afford to buy a horse so she went and bought the bridal H and she put the Bridal on her table in front of her and looked at that Bridal every day is that is that the saddle is the Bridle I think it's the I'm not a really great mouth piece yeah the the straps that go around the head kind of thing I think and within a couple of weeks she threw the actually the most extraordinary set of circumstances she got offered a horse oh my goodness yeah through someone
through someone through someone through someone and she got off at a horse but of course she was acting as if she already had the horse she bought the bridal so and I always say the universe abor a vacuum say again the universe abor a vacuum so abor is a b h o RS abor the universe dislikes a vacuum the the universe can't tolerate a vacuum it has to fill it so if you create a vacuum which is why like for all the people who want to meet their perfect partner and you go to their house
and their wardrobe is totally full and there's no room for their partner's clothes right and they sleep in the middle of the bed whereas their partner sleep right so you got to create a vacuum and so you got to sleep on that side of the bed so the partner sleeps there you got to make room in the bathroom you need to make room in the closet you've created a vacuum then the then the person can come into your life that's so this so funny you say this as well because Martha uh my fiance she when
she was single before we started dating she bought herself uh a home and she was going to buy a clean- siiz bed but her coach was like well are you trying to you know what type of man are you trying to attract she's like well you know a king you know I'm trying to attract my king in my life right not saying that I'm a king or whatever but like I'm trying to attract and she was saying explain what do he what's he look like is he is he short is he tall is he you
know and she was like nah he's like 6'4 and uh you know he's an athlete and he's he needs space right and her coach was like well you can't buy a a clean or full-size bed if you want to attract a bigger guy you need space like you said you need to have a big so for a number of months she had this big king-sized and she's tiny she's like 5'2 right so she was but she was sleeping on this big bed she's like ah is this weird because I have this extra space but she
allowed room for me to be there as well how amazing and you hear this with with your life is full of these stories so good and you hear a lot of like I'm assuming you know mothers to be they create rooms with a crib and they have the room ready for the that's like creating a vacuum right for the baby to them good observation a lot of mothers do this nesting or whatever might be great observation it's another example of like okay I'm struggling getting pregnant but let me just intend and set the intention that
there will be a child here yes but I got to do it before it comes and you know what people might say some people might say oh no you might jinx it come on come on are you going to believe that thought yes don't believe that thought don't believe any thought that you don't deserve things you deserve everything you want everybody deserves everything they want and there's no shortage yes how do we this is a this is a card you talk about with negative thoughts how do we when we want something how do we learn
to navigate the negative thoughts that come and go because not all of us you know are going to be able to have perfect positive thoughts all day long especially when there's challenge or breakdown or maybe some Financial strain or or or pain physical pain yeah so how do we navigate negative thoughts based on what you've talked about the secret really is to become more aware of what's going on in your mind and and you might to begin with just become aware of your feelings you know and all of a sudden you're not feeling very good
and I I promise you if you're not feeling very good it's because you've had a whole lot of negative thoughts that you've been giving your attention to too and that's why you don't feel very good and so you need to be more become more aware and so um I just had somebody yesterday say to me that they Sparrow downward in in a particular situation and then they kind of came out of it and they were like why did I do that why did I let all of those thoughts get me down like that and I
and I said to her but you know what you what you did is amazing because you saw it you know even if you went down with it you still saw it you came out of it and you're like look what happened that was all negative thoughts so but you caught it you aware of it C it and so for me like really early on um you know I would only realize a couple of days later or but the more that you do it the faster that you catch it and a negative thought feels so alien
now now or negative thoughts feel so alien that they're foreign to you now yeah well most people it's negative thoughts are so familiar because that's all they know is negative thinking you get in a a trap or in a cycle of thinking you wake up negative you wake up frustrated resentful and you follow through and you go to sleep frustrated and negative thinking and it is a familiar feeling I've been there in the past it just becomes a familiarity of everything is against me the world is against me this person is trying to take advantage
of me negative negative negative yeah and it can feel like you're in a trap or you're stuck it can feel extremely hard to get out of it but the more we practice what I'm hearing you say the more we practice catching it and being aware of it yeah and practicing having replacing it with a different type of positive empowering thought that's right then the more familiar that will start to feel as well that's right it's just a pattern that that is the mind's just a program yes you know it's just a program so it's programmed
right now based on what each of us have been putting into it and you know I lived like decades with you know caught up in dramas I mean I'm really grateful to the universe that it didn't wipe me out you know because oh my gosh you know if I think about different negative you know things that I get caught up in and talking about and you know gossip like for example is just such a Negative awful thing it's a low frequency energy very low frequency yeah really low frequency so gossip yeah it's one of the
lowest frequencies I feel like right sure is yeah yeah sure is it doesn't Empower you to attract what you want no and and you know for the Law of Attraction like there's only one you there's only one so it is responding to your thoughts to your your words but there's only one there's only you and so whatever you say about another you're bringing to you can you say one more time okay so for Law of Attraction it's responding to thoughts right and so your thoughts and you can't think a thought for me and I can't
think of thought for you right so law of attraction is just responding to my thoughts and it's responding to your thoughts and so what what it is doing is if I am talking about oh she's you know she's this I saw her do this I saw her you know and she did that to somebody else you know too and bl this big story you're saying all of that all that blame and Laur attractions giving it to you oh man yeah we can't think we can't think badly of somebody else without it affecting us it will
come back to us us guaranteed we're just not making the connection you know and so we attract blame so we're bla you know we're blaming somebody and then we going to work the next day and we've made the biggest mistake of all time in our job and we're hauled into the office and the boss is going right through us and we don't make the connection wow yeah yeah yeah no kind thoughts kind yes to others do it do it for you yes you know because what we think about others we're we're attracting to us as
well yeah it's hard but the universe can't make that distinction right the difference no and there's only one for law of in truth there's only one too overall they don't we feel very individual but there is there there is only one but for Law of Attraction there's only one and if you think about it it has to be that way that it's just responding here to these thoughts to these thoughts it's responding to these thoughts to these thoughts it's responding to these thoughts it's none of it's personal right not personal at all it's not saying
oh I know you don't really want that I'm not going to give it to you but if you're speaking you we're talking about the secret manifestation cards uh by Ronda burn make sure you guys get a few of these decks there's tons of different decks out there in the world that people make but I don't think I've seen decks a deck this beautifully done the design the Artistry I know Nick was heavily involved in this on your team amazing team amazing team it's beautiful I mean I just want to like frame these they're like pieces
of art so they are powerful I think it's 65 cards 65 cards and a 16-page booklet that is in this that will give you in a moment you pick it up you take up the first one you you Shuffle the deck you pick it out you're going to get inspiration and by law of attraction like if you wake up in the morning and wake up in the morning and draw a card by law of attraction that is the most important message you need to hear In This Moment let's go right let's go I'm excited I
want people to get this the man the secret manifestation cards oh thank make sure you get this um I've got a couple final questions for you but people can get this at the secret.tv I believe it's the main page where they can get it um everywhere on social media the secret uh or the secret 365 is also on Instagram but pretty much everywhere the secret on social media and the secret.tv where you can sign up for the newsletter get information about all the books that Rhonda has the last book The Greatest Secret is incredible we
talked about that in our previous interview it's incredible um I have I have a couple final questions for you Ronda but I'm I just wanted to say before I ask them I'm so grateful that we're doing this in person there's an amazing energy about you that is that is magnificent in itself the energy the wisdom the passion and the joy you bring I'm so glad we're doing this in person I hope we can do this every year or in the future again and just continue to have these conversations cuz I feel like there's an amazing
flow here so I'm very love every second I'm very grateful you're here and I know people love hearing from you um so I'm so glad that we're doing this uh this is a question that I'm curious about because you've done so much and you've impacted tens of millions of lives what do you see is next for you you know beyond this do you have a vision of what you're trying to create in the future or is it more you stay very present and you allow things to come to you at this stage where are you
at currently in your life um certainly uh certainly I allow myself to be guided and I don't kind of make up my mind there's a book I've been thinking about for a while and um for the last year and I've been doing some research on that so that might happen we've been doing apps um and so I've been enjoying doing that with the team as well my I just all I want to do is keep keep creating in the hope that to reach more people and to help more people have better lives yes that's and
so I don't even mind what shape or form that comes in um just as long as it just as long as it reaches people yes yeah and it just I mean that's just what you live for and I'm sure that is the case for you too right when you get that feedback is just absolutely amazing and then you're like I knew this is what I was meant to do yes and isn't it a total feeling of serving is a real feeling of that is it not you know isn't it yeah that's where we get a
lot of fulfillment when we're in service of course yeah yeah that's beautiful I'm so excited well we're here to support you spread the message whenever you have the next book or project so we're here to do more of this I asked you this question the last time it's what I asked everyone towards the end of my interviews and I'm curious if it's the same or if it's different and we'll have to go back and hear the previous interview to see where it was at but this question is called the three truths so imagine a hypothetical
scenario you get to live as long as you want in this physical world but it's the last day for you somewhere in the future it's the last day and you get to continue to create all the books the apps the projects or whatever you manifest in the future it all comes true as it has for you in the last you know 15 20 years years but for whatever reason in this hypothetical scenario you have to take everything with you so no one has access to the manifestation cards they don't have access to the movie The
Secret the book or anything you've ever created hypothetical scenario and all you get to leave behind are three lessons that you've learned and everything else is gone what would be those three lessons or what I like to call three truths for you well to definitely to love everything and everyone um to be grateful for every moment and to be the joy I love that I'll I'll make sure to link up the previous interiew so we can see what you said before it's probably simar so people can watch that um I have one final question Rhonda
again I want to acknowledge you for your joy for your light for your creativity for showing up for yourself fully for living a harmonious life internally so that you're able to create effortlessly in the world and be of service it's a beautiful thing to watch and um again I hope we get to do many more of these in the future but I acknowledge you for the gift that you are and I'm very grateful for the impact you've made on so many lives so thank you for being here thank you so much of course my final
question question is what is your definition of greatness humility that's what I would say yeah because I think if you humble then you've definitely got greatness inside you there is all the money that everybody needs and wants waiting there for them and there's only one reason it's not in their lives and that's because they're stopping it from coming into their really how are we stopping it by thinking we don't have enough by thinking we don't deserve it being programmed the way you were that my family didn't have very much kind of BN on the wrong
side of the tracks kind of thing or to believe that we only get money through our job law of retraction can only do what you believe we are unlimited beings we limit ourselves down to nothing what else about money do you feel like people are missing when it comes to manifesting in the Law of Attraction money [Music] is