Anthony T. Browder -- Correcting the Historical Record: OURstory vs. HIStory

greetings and welcome to the movement with kevin shockley and kofi lin isles thank you for joining us this show highlights the most important voices in the current black movement for social justice this is a chance for us to learn from the most insightful and impactful leaders in the community today we are here with mr anthony t browder who is an author book publisher cultural historian and artist and an educational consultant mr browder has lectured extensively around the world he's a graduate of howard university he has been described as a critically important leader of the community

and he is celebrated for his groundbreaking work surrounding ancient kemet or ancient egypt mr browder welcome to the movement and thank you for having us in your home today it's a pleasure to be with you today all right mr browder the first question for you is not so much about your work as it is your legacy you are one of the most well-known african-american cultural historians of our time and within black communities worldwide you are one of the most respected authors and thinkers could you tell us a little bit about what that's like for you

so first of all what is that like for you and what is it like to know that sometime down the line way down the line you're going to leave a powerful legacy and be recorded in history and also what's it like to do such challenging work well i can say that the work that i'm doing is a continuation of the work of those scholars that preceded me i was quite fortunate in the 80s to meet and have relationships with some of the most significant scholars of that time dr josephine yuccanon acg hilliard naeem akbar wade

nobles francis chris welsing dr patricia newton john g jackson john henry clark these were my heroes and sheroes and i was blessed to have a personal relationship with them as well as a business relationship with them and i model much of what i do now is based on the life lessons that i learned when i was in their space and so to be able to continue their work is part of what this work is all about i remember john henry clark saying years ago that this work is not work it's a priesthood and one must

be dedicated to the mission which is to restore the memory of african people so now that many of those elders are now ancestors and i've ascended into the role of an elder then i see myself as playing the same role for young folk as dr ben dr clark and others play for me it's my responsibility to keep the door open it's my responsibility to inspire them and let them know that this is not a rat race this is a relay race the baton has been passed to me i'm going to run as far as i

can with it then i will pass it on to those who are coming behind me at this point in my life i am focusing my attention on legacy building i'm working specifically with young folk primarily young folk who are in their 30s and 40s who have been around me for a while who i am handing off pieces of my business to so i've got a team of people who've been with me during the egypt only potomac field trips for 15 years so i'm handing that business off to them my daughter has been with me doing

this work since she was four or five years old she just turned 38 and so i'm priming my daughter to continue the work that i'm doing uh in egypt we just published our third book together and i like to think that what what i'm doing is pouring myself into these souls so that they would do the same for the young people who will approach them when they're in their 40s 50s and 60s and that's how we make progress and ultimately achieve mental victory powerful answer let me ask you this and i know that you are

a humble man and so and i can tell by the way you answered that question but i am curious what is it like to be in that position what is that like for you this is all i know and i'm doing what i'm supposed to be doing i i have come to embrace the fact that this is my life's mission you know dr francis chris wilson said that everyone has has a cosmic excitement and i know that this is my assignment to do the work to do the research and to share this information with those

with the greatest need to know and this is all i know so if i were doing less than that i would be dissatisfied but considering the fact that i am on point i am on mission i'm comfortable with that this show is about the movement the movement that we see in black america today the response that black people are having in society to things that are happening to them what i wanted to ask you about is in that the piece about identity as one of the major leaders who provides alternative images for black people in

terms of who they are who are we that's the first thing who are we and uh what does egypt or kemet have to do with who we are i'll start with those two well we are the byproduct of 400 years of an intentional effort to destroy us to erase our memory to separate us from the land of our ancestors and to make us believe that we are less than i truly than we truly are it's a miracle that we're still alive it's a greater miracle that some of us have our minds intact and are striving

to awaken brothers and sisters who are searching for the light so that's a reality so this movement that you're referring to is not so much a movement as it is a cyclical process nothing to come stays and nothing that goes is lost so we're in a position now where we're in the process of remembering awakening and then allowing ourselves to be the vessels through which our ancestors would do their best work so these are concepts and ideas that are outside of the norm of traditional society but these are the concepts and ideas that have uh

maintained us whether we are conscious of it or not for the last 400 500 years within us is a power that is stronger than our oppressors ability to destroy us and once we understand uh the source of that power and tap into that power then we become everything that our oppressors were afraid of and that is the mission what would you say to someone who's wondering why so much focus on the african part of what we've done because i hear that all the time sure and that's somewhat understandable because not only are people of african

ancestry been miseducated but everybody on the planet has been miseducated so a person who has that consciousness i would direct them to the smithsonian museum of natural history there was an exhibit there in the david koch hall of human origins it was a 15 million exhibit that was established about seven or eight years ago and in that exhibit it says that uh a hundred thousand years ago africans were the only people on the planet except the smithsonian now david kocal of human origins yes that david cocker the koch brothers right so even the broken clock

is right twice a day right so david koch says in that exhibit that a hundred thousand years ago africans were the only people on the planet they go on to say that forty thousand sixty thousand years ago um a group of these africans living in east africa walked out of africa into eastern asia and populated eastern asia and then they go on to state that approximately 40 000 years ago another group of these same africans walked into western asia the land mass that we now call europe and populated europe so if you process just those

three pieces of information it says it reinforces the fact that humanity was born in africa the first homo sapien sapiens lived in africa and africa alone before they appeared anywhere else on the planet it speaks to the reality that there is no such thing as race race is a false construct that was created by races in order to confuse mankind there's there's only one race the human race which has its origins in africa so everyone on a genetic level everyone is of african ancestry whether they know it or not or whether they look like it

or not the further you move away from the equator the further you move away from the sun the lighter your skin becomes because of melanin and other factors contribute to the change of facial features so that's one very important reality you'll also find in the same museum on the opposite end of the david koch hall of human origins you'll find an exhibit on ancient africa and in this exhibit on ancient africa as soon as you walk into the exhibit it talks about the nile valley it talks about ancient cush and what they state is that

ancient cush the civilization of ancient kush rose around the same time as the civilization of ancient kemet but it lasted longer it lasted about 3000 years longer so when we talk about africa we're talking about the birthplace of humanity when we talk about africa specifically the now valley in the nile valley civilization includes civilization in uganda ethiopia cush sudan and kemet or egypt so it's a 4200 mile cultural highway and the culture migrated with the people from the south to the north and so the civilization that referred to as kemet or egypt is considered by

chancellor williams as ethiopia's oldest daughter right but we find in kemet the greatest evidence of what human beings have achieved when they're left to their own devices the beginning of architecture the beginning of government the beginning of agriculture the beginning of engineering science philosophy astronomy the beginning of all of those things that that indicates a civilized nation and a civilized people so africa is important because it's the birthplace of humanity culture and civilization that expanded from the nile valley south and west influencing dozens of countries on the continent that is the reason why europeans were

obsessed with coming to africa because africa was the source of knowledge culture and civilization and a thief only goes where there is something to steal if if i'm watching this and my question to you is are you saying that me as a black person as an african-american are you saying that my ancestors are ancient egyptians is that what you're saying here well part of what part of what i'm saying is uh everyone's ancestors come from africa and what we've been able to ascertain over the past four years now based on the research that we're doing

in in egypt excavations that we've been doing for the past 12 years in egypt we have come across evidence that shows a migration of africans from the nile to the niger we know that there were at least six migrations that led to the development of culture and civilization within ghana senegal gambia ivory coast nigeria and the last group of africans to migrate from the now to the niger with those africans who developed culture and civilization in mali they're known as the dogan it was those africans in west africa who were ultimately kidnapped and then brought

to the americas so that africans in the america in the diaspora are the descendants of west africans who were kidnapped who were the descendants of africans from east africa who migrated to west africa over a period of say a thousand years or so and in those cultures in ghanaian culture in senegalese culture in dogan culture they speak about their ancestors having migrated there from the nile so our job is to open the door so that more research can be done on this important aspect of of human migration in human history so that the generations who

come behind us will never ask that question you know and so sin in this time over over the past uh several decades since you and others have been sort of uncovering what's happening in our history in the nile valley and you've written your famous book now valid contributions to civilization since that's happened over time there's been some backlash and there have been some people who have written some things to sort of challenge these ideas i wanted to ask if you would take a quick look at this athens 2 400 years ago it's a compact place

only about a quarter of a million people live here there are fine baths theaters temples shopping arcades and gymnasiums it's warm for more than half the year this is also home to the world's first true and probably greatest philosopher plato so the world's first philosopher plato your reaction well it depends on which world you're talking about in the european world the greek world they can think that if they want to but in the world of reality the greeks learned philosophy from kemet the oldest philosophical texts were written in kemet before greece became a nation-state and

anyone who has studied the history of the greeks would know that you go where the knowledge is if you're thirsty for knowledge so the greeks were enamored with the history and culture and traditions of the nile valley so philosophy was about cultivating a deeper understanding of your soul and your soul's relationship to the life that you're living so everything within the history of chemic reinforced philosophical concepts and ideas that were never acknowledged as being african in origin but have served as the foundation for philosophical traditions as well as religious traditions and again anyone who does

a deep dive into the study of kemet as opposed to the study of egypt will begin to find that that is the source for the for the knowledge and wisdom that has been attributed to the greeks and romans and others and you mentioned earlier that we are in a process of remembering uh you're a memory recovery expert can you help us understand what that means and how your expertise can help black people well when we think about the fact that um you know our past has been erased and then the erasure has been forgotten we

go back to the comments that were made by henry berry esquire on the floor of the virginia house of delegates around 1834 this politician said to other white virginia politicians who also happened to be in slavers he said sir we have so far as possible closed every avenue through which light may enter the slaves mind if we could extinguish their capacity to see the light then they would be on the level of the beasts of the fields our work will be complete and we will be safe now what he was talking about is this intentional

process of miseducation erasing the historical and cultural memory of african people and then seeing to it that that job was complete so that they would be safe this was their life's work to erase our memory to erase our cultural hard drive and then to tell us that we were nothing to to even convince some of us that the lord and savior of the world jesus christ condemned us to death because we didn't have a soul so they could steal us they could rape us they could sell us they could lynch us and not violate any

of the so-called ten commandments because we were not human so which means to me that they were in fact the ones whose memories have been erased because they didn't know that they were africans they didn't know that they were abusing the mothers and fathers of culture and civilization so we've been dealing with a period for hundreds of years of the erasure of the erasure of the erasure and the only thing that would bring back a sense of my balance harmony and reciprocity is to begin to speak a truth that has been hidden a truth that

will transform the world a truth that will ignite something within the consciousness of everyone who upon hearing it will know that they were more than what they've been taught they're more than what they've been told and that by taking time to center yourself to study your history and your culture to cultivate relationships with others who are doing the same that then makes it possible for the best in you to begin to manifest itself in your memory to be restored and it makes me think about young people who are growing up in society and uh being

socialized to not understand who they are and one of the things that they learn early are stories about other cultural groups what's one story that all people should know well the most important story is humanity began in africa right all people are of african ancestry so it benefits everyone to want to get as close to the source of that knowledge as possible because it benefits everyone race is a false construct that was created by races in order to sow seas of confusion and division that benefits a small handful of people while the majority suffers so

i i believe that we're going through a profound period of change right now the earth is changing politics is changing the economic social and educational order of american society is changing and it will never be as it was before now change is inevitable and the question then is where are you going to be in this process of change are you going to be behind the change and never catch up are you going to be caught in the middle of the change and try to find which way to go or will you be ahead of the

curve because you understood what dr clark meant when he said that history is the clock that people use to tell their political and cultural time of day history is the compass that people use to find themselves on the map of human geography history follows cycles and once you understand the cyclical nature of history then it's simply a matter of understanding where you are in the cycle how you got here and to be able to forecast what that cycle is going to look like over the course of the next year five years ten years or century

and position yourself accordingly so that's the process that uh when people begin to understand how truly easy life is right life gives you what you request of it right life gives you what you give it and once you understand that everything that structures our world is based upon this ancient comedic philosophical principle known as my odd reciprocity that is the order of the millennium for every single millennium that human beings have lived on this planet and once you know these simple basic and fundamental truths then everything else becomes a walk in the park what are

the first steps if somebody watching this wants to learn about ma'at wants to better understand what you've shared what are some of the things they can do we're in this predicament not because of some fault of our own but because of the intentional efforts of our oppressors to deny us basic human rights if you read carter g wilson's masterpiece the miseducation of the negro we're in the position that we're in because of events that were set in motion over 100 years ago and have been repeatedly playing themselves out generation after generation after generation it was

illegal for enslaved africans in america to read or write why because the enslavers knew that if you could write about where you came from what your profession was what your cultural traditions were then you could pass that information on to your descendants and they would have a means of freeing their minds while their bodies were still enslaved but if you ban reading if you ban writing if you convince people that we are inferior then that puts a a psychological hold in the minds of most people it puts change on your mind so we're talking about

undoing years of psychological slavery and as um ac hilliard said psychological slavery or mental slavery is worse than physical slavery because such a person who is mentally enslaved can't see the shackles that are on their mind so one of the best things that a person of african descent can do is to read fall in love with books begin to read for all of your ancestors who are not given the privilege to read so read the books by our scholars read my books read what i refer to as forbidden knowledge there is a reason why my

books were banned from howard university there's a reason why some people in the district of columbia wanted to ban my books dr clark's books ac hilliar's books francis chris welsing's books because books are the passports to freedom to the freedom of the mind so anyone who is truly interested in wanting to become more engaged more in sync with the times has to begin by spending more time reading and less time on social media they have to begin to cultivate a relationship with their inner selves and their ancestors or as a brother said at a lecture

one time they have to get off of facebook and get their face in the book what is the problem with social media what what is the reason why you said that about not looking at social media as much and what kinds of issues do you see us having as a result of the social media phenomena i could reference my my dear friend who's now an ancestor dr patricia newton a psychiatrist who practiced in baltimore she talked about the fact that children particularly children young people who spend time on social media it rewires their brain and

that social media and this data has been acknowledged by other social scientists children specifically who are in the process of wiring their their their neurons right developing the infrastructure uh by which they will live the rest of their lives when you spend time on social media that limits the capacity for your mind to grow and expand as it had done for thousands of years and that there have been studies done to show that people's tendency particularly young people's tendency to pick up the phone every time it dings to check the email check messages it creates

a sensation in the in the body that is similar to the sensation that a crack addict has and there are psychologists who are now saying that these devices are addictive and studies have come out to show that the creation of these devices uh the look of the the the screens the music and all of these things uh were developed by experts at google and facebook in order to make you addictive to the to this device and the devices are used to sell you everything so we are programmed to be consumers like no other generations in

human history and as a result uh and we are social creatures by nature right but this device holding this device in our hands has separated us from positive interactions with other human beings so if you talk to young people today or if you just watch young people they're walking down the street looking to looking at the cell cellular devices they don't engage in meaningful conversations with them or when they talk to an adult they can't look you in the eye for more than two or three seconds so what will be the long-term implications of generations

growing up addicted to these digital devices and being strangers to human interactions how would that affect our our mental development our emotional development four or five generations from now so these are issues that that psychologists are beginning to look at seriously now and i would trust that parents adults who have children will begin to monitor and restrict their children's use of these cellular devices so the omission of truth about black history from social studies and other texts in schools is a big problem and is one of the reasons why african americans and others have lost

a lot of faith in the education system i have a two-part question about that one is there a significant or a significant enough movement to correct the problem of a lack of truthful black history in texts so is there enough of a movement and what current projects do you have going that are going to be important for youth and communities well personally i feel that there is not enough momentum to infuse african content into curriculum k through 12 at a minimum and one of the reasons why this momentum is not as strong as it needs

to be is is because adults in the communities aren't aware of what the children are being taught these adults don't even know history these adults who are the tax-paying citizens whose taxes are paying for the miseducation of every child in every classroom have a responsibility to know what is and what is not being taught and to insist that their tax dollars be used to educate the minds of every child in every classroom throughout america but we also know that education or miseducation is a billion dollar industry the writing and publishing of textbooks is a billion

dollar industry and a handful of states primarily texas and california determines the flavor of textbooks that are used in most school systems throughout the country so until we can begin to look at the economics of miseducation and begin to hold school systems and school officials accountable we're going to continue to get the same old same old miseducation on steroids but it doesn't have to be that way makes perfect sense and what kinds of things do you have going on well we've got a couple of projects going on we are in our 12th year of the

excavation and restoration of three cushite tombs three 20 700 year old tombs that we're excavating and restoring in egypt right now at this time and as a result of the 12 years that i've spent in this project the 14 years that this project has been going on we have enough data to literally rewrite the history of the cushite presence in chemin and the history of kemet and so that information is going to be coming out and it will be made available uh in to school systems all around the country and around the world we have

a project a cultural imperative program which is in place in about a dozen cities throughout the united states we're working specifically with high school students where they're reading essays selected essays from my first book from the browder file which will introduce them to specific aspects of african and african american history and culture so part of our job at this moment is to prepare our replacements to prepare the next generations and to expose them to what i refer to as forbidden knowledge information which has intentionally been withheld from students in classrooms throughout the united states and

around the world we have another very special project that should be um available to the public in late 2021 and that is the john henry clark enhanced history project that program is going to be installed on the second floor of the thurgood marshall center in washington dc where our offices are located that program is a outgrowth of my dissatisfaction with an aspect of the national museum of african american history and culture 60 of that incredible museum is underground is in the um david m rubenstein history halls 60 percent of the artifacts in that museum 60

of the history of african people in america is underground and it begins with a reenactment of the process of enslavement and so when i first went to the museum and stepped into this space i noticed that from an architectural standpoint the space was dark the exhibits were crammed together the passageways were small in order to force the people to come together to crawl together so that psychologically they would feel as though they were in a slave ship and then as they uh read the uh the the texts in the in the exhibitions and they saw

the horrors of the offer the horrors of the slave trade i saw grown men and women crying i i saw two elderly black men walking through the exhibit and i heard one say to the other you know i got to get out of here before i hurt some white person and what that meant to me was that these elders had never been exposed to the history of enslavement this knowledge is still not being taught today so that people who have no knowledge of of the process of enslavement will have a visceral reaction to this horrific

experience and so we have to move beyond the emotional response to this and understand that this process set in motion the birth of the united states of america this is the process which has made the united states of america the wealthiest nation in human history the wealth of america is built on the destruction of the indigenous people of this country and the enslavement of tens of millions of african people who are responsible for building this country and giving it a leg up on the rest of the world so you know america doesn't want to acknowledge

its greatest sin and until she does that she will suffer the consequences because karma is a mug right and you have to account for all the good and all the bad that you do in your life and in your existence and so when i began to look at when i became aware of how few of our people were aware of the horrors of enslavement and that there was no information in this incredible museum there was no information that talked about who we were before our world was turned upside down so my response to that was

to not complain but to gather the resources so that i can create an exhibition that would explain who we were before the offer so this is the john henry clark enhanced history project so we're enhancing the history that we're currently being taught using the model of john harry clark asa hilliard francis welsing and so many of our scholars whose books were banned right in most school systems uh this material consists of what i refer to as forbidden knowledge here in 2020 there is certain information that is not allowed to be taught in certain school systems

right now because of people's fear of how people of african ancestry specifically will respond to learning the horrors of what was done to us my suggestion is let's go back thousands of years before the my offer thousands of years before our world was turned upside down when we were in control of our destinies when we were when africa was the showcase to the world people from all around the planet strove in every way possible to come to the nile river valley to study the greatest examples of human achievement in the history of the world that's

fascinating it's so you know sometimes when i uh i'm reading your books and listening to you now and talking about the importance of our history and culture um i know the connection i think i know the connection between that and what's happening in the streets to black people now could you just help people understand why this is important information in the face of the things that are happening to black people now how does it help us to address police brutality how does that knowledge help us to address miseducation how does it help us to address

our issues with one another how does that knowledge help us to improve those situations so uh i want to quote one infamous person and one famous person the infamous person is james madison uh fourth president of the united states writer of the u.s constitution the third building of the library of congress is named in honor james madison and as you enter that building to the right to the left of the entrance is the quote by james madison madison says the knowledge will forever govern ignorance and the people who mean to be their own governors must

arm themselves with the power that knowledge gives so knowledge is power and whoever has knowledge and more specifically accurate knowledge of the world and the society in which they live will be able to move through that society with these and achieve the highest levels of success within that society now the famous person i want to quote is one of my famous favorite scholars john henry clark who said that all history is a current event we see the same things repeating themselves over and over and over again why are they repeating themselves because people have not

learned the lesson and you keep repeating the lesson until you learn the lesson and then you'll have a new lesson so all the lessons don't necessarily have to be bad issues with police brutality exist because the police force was created initially to catch runaway africans when they were enslaved that is the origin of the police police force they were part of the slave patrols and so police were designed to serve and protect to serve and protect whom the people with money to protect their businesses and their property and because of the fact shawshee mcintyre uh

wrote a book called the criminalization the criminalization of a race and so michelle alexander talked about the new jim crow so the data is there to support the fact that the legal system has created environments which result in certain people in certain environments being forced because of circumstances beyond their control to engage in criminal behavior they become what michelle alexander referred to refers to as the low-hanging fruit they are the ones the police force will constantly arrest so one of the things that it begs that people of african ancestry must begin to do is to

police ourselves and you police yourselves by beginning first by policing everybody in your household you teach your children how to be respectful you know there's been a lot of conversation about black parents having the conversation with their children but those conversations have been going on for generations and they need to be intensified now one of the reasons why they need to be intensified has to do with the advent of social media and the music which two generations of black folk have grown up listening to i refer to it as crap music i refer to it

as as pornography anytime you have young souls internalizing profanity internalizing violence and gratuitous sex that rewires their mind into normalizing abnormal behavior so who benefits from that the police officers who arrest these children the court systems who will try them and in the prison systems which are now privatized so what we're dealing with is a new form of slavery with the same old slave catchers holding black people under their thumb with their knees on our necks so this is the reality that we have been living with ever since we have been living in america cultivating

historical consciousness helps you put things into context and once you understand the cyclical nature of the violence that we have been subjected to then that gives any intelligent person the opportunity to begin to find a way to circumvent the violence and so what i trust will be the outcome of this extended period of police violence against black bodies what i trust would be an outcome is for us to begin to look at what we can do to change our minds to change our speech to change our behavior to change our action so that we can

change everything else and everybody else that we come in contact with that's the power that we have and when we know that we have that power we understand how to use it and when we use it effectively it changes everything around us i've heard some younger people say in reference to music is that every generation has a problem with the music that's behind them of course it does and that's a legitimate statement that's a legitimate statement because every generation brings something new to something old or sees something old through a different lens but in the

history of humanity there has never been a generation that has been as violent and as disrespectful as this current generation has been this is aberrant behavior this is a process of resocialization that has been brought about by internalizing pornography internalizing violence which has literally rewired their neural pathways such that they begin to believe that that is acceptable to young folks who say that i say okay let's wait 30 years from now until you have children and grandchildren and let's see what your position is on this subject then right so um again i think the issue

is understanding what music is music is a conduit of culture who profits from this pornographic music that too many of our children listen to who profits not the artists but the people who privatize the prisons the people who profit from poverty who profit from blindness they are the ones who make sure that this information is accessible to those who need it the least because of the outcomes that they know that will come from internalizing this toxin you don't find other people in other parts of the world internalizing this music and this behavior and subjecting their

own people to this pornography no conscious people would do it to themselves only the unconscious and so what we have to do with the unconscious we've got to make them conscious and we have to understand that not every person is capable of cultivating a consciousness some folk are too far going i'm just going to be real some folk are too far gone but everything that we do determines the trajectory of our lives whether we know it or not everything that we internalize now follow this process there's a saying that you are what you eat right

you eat healthy food you'll have a healthy disposition you eat junk food you'll have a junk disposition you'll you eat a lot of sugar you develop hypertension you eat other foods that are known to be carcinogenic then you may have various forms of cancer you are what you eat but you are also what you listen to huh you're also what you see everything that comes into your body affects you on a cellular level and either moves you closer to health happiness and prosperity or illness death and poverty so these are realities that we seriously have

to begin to start looking at because the science of epigenetics is now coming into our consciousness now epigenetics and that it used to be believed that the genetic change in a population occurs over a protracted period of time but through the science of epigenetics we now understand very clearly that the genetic composition of a people can be changed in one generation and again to quote my dear friend dr patricia newton the africans who got on the slave ships in africa were genetically different than the africans who were offloaded in america north america south america central

america and every island in the caribbean so that experience that horrific experience has changed us on a genetic level and we need to understand that so that we can be active participants in rewiring our neural pathways so that we can become the brilliant human beings that we were born to be and earlier you mentioned if people don't get it right they'll have to get it right in another lifetime our lifetime after that i want to talk to you about religion you once said if you look at the origins of judaism christianity and islam you will

see without a shadow of a doubt that they are rooted in ancient african spiritual traditions my question is why do you think so many black people practice the aforementioned religious traditions instead of an african spiritual tradition all right let's look at it this way all free people choose their relationship with divinity only slaves and conquer people take on the religions of their conquerors and enslavers that answers the question we're christians because we were enslaved by christians continental africans who are muslims are muslims because they were enslaved by muslims simple in the nile valley if you

are honest and sincere about the study of this history you will find the origins of the abrahamic faith you'll find the origins of judaism christianity and religion carved on the walls of temples and tombs that are thousands of years older than those religions so that information has been suppressed if people knew the truth about god about the concepts of god the concepts of the creator if they understood how this knowledge has been used to to mentally psychologically and spiritually enslave a people then they would begin to revisit their relationship with divinity and so what i

am encouraging people to do is to read and study because nobody has the right to impose their religious beliefs on anyone everyone has the right to believe what they want to believe but your belief should be and belief is the wrong word to use because a belief is the acceptance of something without proof what i'm suggesting is that people know that this creative force which some people call god some people call allah some people call but this creative force is real and it has always been present and it has always been accessible to men and

women when they eat properly when they think properly when they act properly and engage in rituals that strengthen their relationship with the unseen presence of divinity and you find the earliest examples of that and the oldest examples of that in the nile valley others came in took a piece of these spiritual traditions went home and created religions which were then used to either say that they were the chosen people because all three people choose their relationship with the creator or these newly created religions were used to determine who was an infidel or who didn't have

a soul and as a result of the pope saying that you didn't have a soul it now made it possible for roman catholics to violate at least five of the ten commandments can you tell us about a sar a set in hero who are they that's a story that i can spend an hour talking about but i'll condense it to three three minutes i saw hero is the foundational mythology of ancient chemic every culture every civilization is rooted in myths myths every religion is rooted in a mythology whether they acknowledge it or not so myths

have a way of transferring knowledge and information beyond time and space and beyond the limitations of personality so the foundational myth of ancient chemist the oldest documented civilization known to mankind is the story of a sar who came from the south cush particularly and actually within the ethiopian traditions they have an asarian story that preceded the comedic story by at least four to five thousand years but asar is a person who is responsible for uniting the two lands of kemet establishing the first nation state he is said to have have introduced agriculture the means by

which he can feed the people of his nation and spiritual traditions asara then married a beautiful african woman by the name of asset who was his co-region assar after he established nation of kimit then decided that he was going on a mission within the continent of africa to bring his knowledge to share his knowledge with others to lift them out of darkness and he left his queen a set to run their nation in his absence this act angered assad's brother seth who felt that he should have been left in charge seth ultimately murdered asar and

in one of the stories dismembered his body and and scattered it into shattered his body into 14 different pieces and scattered them throughout the land a set when searching for the missing parts of ahsar's body now let me give you some context this story is at least 6 000 years old there's a version of this story in ethiopia that is 10 000 years old so a set went searching for the missing parts of asar's body she found 13 of the 14 parts of azsara's body and she found each body part she washed it she anointed

it with oils and she literally laid his body parts on the table and a set literally remembered asar and then wrapped his body in bandages thus creating the first mummy in recorded history it took her 70 days to complete the process of finding assara's body and preparing his body for burial so 70 days became the time frame for the process of mummification in egypt for the next 3 000 years that's how important this myth is before set buried her husband she grieved as any wife agreed because she was about to bury the man that she

loved she also agreed because according to the story a set was a virgin she and her husband had never consummated their marriage vows so before asset buried her husband the spirit of her deceased husband asar came and impregnated her and then nine months later the virgin asset gave birth to her son heru who was born on a born of a virgin and born on the same day as his father asar that day corresponds to december the 25th heru was born with one specific mission and that was to restore his father's kingdom so if you travel

to kemet we do study tours every year to the nile valley and we show you this story uh carved in in temples and and in stone we can take you to the temple of abydos the oldest temple in kimit and show you the story of the spirit of asar impregnating his virgin wife asset we can take you to the temple of feyley that is dedicated to a set where you see images of a set giving birth to her child and then hiding this infant child among the bull rushes in in the adult region of the

nile valley uh i can take you to the temple of edfu the temple dedicated to hero where you can see the scenes of heru battling his uncle set defeating his uncle set and then reclaiming his father's throne so heru then becomes the legitimate heir to the throne of kemet and at the moment here reclaimed his father's throne then his father asar was resurrected from the dead and then took his place on the throne of judgment so here you have approximately 6 000 years ago 4 000 years before the birth of jesus a story of a

immaculate conception a virgin birth the son of god being born to avenge the murder of his father to restore his father's kingdom on earth and being the pathway through which the the souls who follow them will be able to find their place in heaven as they stand before a tsar on the day of judgment all of these concepts are african concepts that are documented thousands of years before the advent of judaism christianity and islam so when you know african history you can deconstruct african mythology that is embedded in the torah that is embedded in the

bible that is embedded in the quran and you can look at these great books with greater wisdom greater insight and get the true knowledge that is there waiting to be gleaned when studied and examined by a liberated mind so if we take what you've been teaching for so long and the culturally centered aspects of it and we begin to all of us follow the lead that you and the people who came before you have have the path that you wanted us to be on where does that leave us in 10 20 years from now what

does the future look like for us if we follow that lead in 2020 america is manifesting what malcolm x said in november of 1963 with the assassination uh when he was asked to respond to the assassination of john f kennedy he said chickens coming home to roost you can't go out into the world and commit evil without evil and violence visiting you you can't destabilize communities and nations without your community and your nation being destabilized so what we have witnessed in america since since may what we have witnessed is the longest sustained protest in american

history with more protesters in american history we've also seen uh similar protests with tens of millions of people all around the world why because of a visceral response to a white police officer choking the life out of george floyd now folk have heard black people complaining about violence complaining about abuse but through the advent of technology when it's used properly and that video image was transmitted all around the world and people felt the pain that african americans have been feeling for over 400 years and they understood that there is a need now for people to

stand up and say i've got to speak out against this abuse and so we're witnessing that now what does that mean on a larger scale why is it happening now i submit to you that one of the reasons why it's happening now and one of the reasons why a large percentage of those protesters are non-black you got brown people you've got red people you got yellow people you got white people out there protesting too why is that i submit to you that one of the reasons why it's happening is because of the advent of technology

you've got two generations now people all around the world listening to black music right watching black entertainers and wanting to be like them watching black panther and feeling proud about africa and african people you know watching black basketball players and tennis players and golfers and football players and baseball players and now seeing black people in a different light being able to relate to us on a different level so then this george floyd incident then kicks off something that has been dormant in people who've been internalizing black spiritual energy for decades and it moves them to

respond like human beings are supposed to respond wow anthony broader thank you so much for joining us on the movement my pleasure thank you for initiating the movement to world renowned scholar and researcher anthony browder thank you for joining us on the movement and to you our viewers remember to follow us on facebook at the movement with kevin and kofi and remember to join us next time on the movement you