CONFIRMATION. >> Dana: THANK YOU. GOOD TO SEE YOU.
>> Bill: SOME PEOPLE FELT HE WAS SMILING BIDEN. THE PRESIDENT SITTING DOWN WITH DONALD TRUMP AT THE HISTORIC HANDSHAKE WASN'T THE ONLY HEADLINE BUT BIDEN'S GRIN THAT CAPTURED ATTENTION ON SOCIAL MEDIA LEAVING MANY FOLKS TO SPECULATE WHY WAS HE SO HAPPY? VICE PRESIDENT TARGETED VICTORY MATT GORMAN AND SOME OF THE REACTION ONLINE WITH OUR PANEL.
BIDEN NEVER LOOKED HAPPIER. JOE BIDEN SHARES THE SAME SMILE THAT MOST OF AMERICA HAS RIGHT NOW. MATT, DID YOU SEE SOMETHING THERE?
>> I HAVE NOT SEEN HIM THAT HAPPY SINCE THE LAST DEBATE. I'M NOT TROLLING. IF YOU ARE KAMALA HARRIS WHAT ARE YOU THINKING NOW?
DO YOU SMILE WHEN YOU ARE NEXT TO SOMEONE YOU THINK WAS EVIL? EVERYTHING THEY SAID WAS A LIE. IT WAS INCREDIBLE.
I HAVE NOT SEEN BIDEN THAT HAPPY IN A LONG TIME. >> Bill: FELIPE, WHAT DID YOU SEE? >> I DON'T THINK THAT'S THE CASE.
DONALD TRUMP ALSO HAD SOME NASTY THINGS ABOUT JOE BIDEN AND KEPT THAT TO HIMSELF. LOOK, JADED AS I WANT TO BE I LIKED SEEING THAT. IT IS IMPORTANT AND GOOD THAT JOE BIDEN OFFERED, WHICH DONALD TRUMP DID NOT DO IN 2020.
IT IS GOOD THAT DONALD TRUMP ACCEPTED AND IT IS NOT JUST A RITUAL. I HAVE TO SAY I THINK IF IT HAD BEEN A COUPLE HOURS LATER AND THE MATT GAETZ NEWS BROKE I DON'T KNOW IF THE GRIN WOULD HAVE BEEN AS WIDE. I THINK THEY MET FOR TWO HOURS.
THAT'S THE REALLY IMPORTANT PART. THE ONE THING I WOULD SAY IS I HOPE THAT THE PRESIDENT-ELECT TOOK TO HEART SOME OF WHAT JOE BIDEN SAID EVEN IF HE DISAGREES WITH IT. IF YOU REMEMBER, PRESIDENT OBAMA TOLD PRESIDENT-ELECT TRUMP TO WATCH OUT FOR MIKE FLYNN AND IT TURNED OUT THAT MIKE FLYNN WAS FIRED 23 DAYS AFTER THE ELECTION STARTED AND ENDED UP BEING FOUND GUILTY AND NEEDING A PARDON.
IT IS WORK THAT IS GETTING DONE. AS FAR AS THE GRIN, I'M GLAD THAT THEY BOTH COULD PUT IT ASIDE AND SAY THE RIGHT WORDS, I REALLY AM. >> Bill: ONE OTHER THING.
A QUESTION ABOUT WHY SHE DIDN'T DO THE ROGAN INTERVIEW. HE FINE LE ANSWERED IT. PLAY THE CLIP FROM HIS EXPLANATION.
>> THEY HAD -- I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY CONVERSATIONS WITH MY FOLKS BUT MULTIPLE CONVERSATIONS GIVING DIFFERENT DATES, DIFFERENT TIMES, DIFFERENT THIS AND THAT. WE KNEW SHE WOULD BE IN TEXAS SO I SAID OPEN INVITATION. THEY HAD REQUIREMENTS ON THINGS SHE DIDN'T WANT TO TALK ABOUT.
SHE DIDN'T WANT TO TALK ABOUT MARIJUANA LEGALIZATION. THAT WAS ILL HAIROUS, BECAUSE OF HER PROSECUTING RECORD. SHE PUT A LOT OF PEOPLE IN JAIL FOR WEED.
>> Bill: YOU HAD THAT AND THIS FROM ONE SPOKESMAN. A BACKLASH FROM OUR PROGRESSIVE STAFF THAT DIDN'T WANT HER TO BE ON BECAUSE OF POSSIBLE BACKLASH. >> YOU ARE WORRIED ABOUT YOUR STAFF'S FEELINGS AND NOT GETTING IN FRONT OF TENS OF MILLIONS OF VOTERS MORE THAN WATCHING THE EVENING NEWS EVEN.
ROGAN IS A SYMPTOM OF A LARGER CAUSE. I DON'T THINK DOING ROGAN WOULD WIN HER THE ELECTION BUT IT SPOKE TO A MINDSET OF PLAYING IT SAFE. KEEPING HER FROM A LOT OF INTERVIEWS FOR MOST OF THE CAMPAIGN AND NOT TAKING RISKS AND SAYING LET'S FIGURE OUT THREE THINGS THAT WE CAN SEPARATE OURSELVES FROM THE UNPOPULAR PRESIDENT IN OUR PARTY.
LET'S CATER TO THIS INTEREST IDENTITY GROUP AND THAT INTEREST IDENTITY GROUP INSTEAD TRYING TO WIN VOTERS BROADLY. ROGAN DIDN'T LOSE THE ELECTION BUT A MINDSET THAT INFORMED ALL THAT THAT DID. >> Bill: MY FEELING IS ANY TIME YOU PUT CONDITIONS ON AN INTERVIEW, IT IS PROBABLY NOT GOING TO HAPPEN OR NOT GO WELL.
THIS OTHER COMMENT ABOUT PROGRESSIVE STAFF MEMBERS BEING CONCERNED ABOUT IT. THERE MIGHT BE SOME TRUTH IN THAT ABOUT THE INFIGHTING WITHIN THE CAMPAIGN. >> YOU JUST TEED UP A SOFTBALL RIGHT DOWN THE MIDDLE.
PRESIDENT TRUMP GAVE PRE-CONDITIONS TO THE INTERVIEW WITH NATIONAL ASSOCIATION OF BLACK JOURNALISTS. HE DIDN'T WANT TO BE FACT CHECKED AND DID THE SAME THING IN TERMS OF TRYING TO WORK THE REPS, WHICH HE IS VERY GOOD AT ON THE DEBATES. THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IS ROGUE AN SAID SHE SAID OKAY.
I DON'T HAVE INSIDE INFORMATION HERE. I WOULD SAY THAT THE IDEA THAT SHE DIDN'T GO INTO I WON'T SAY THE LION'S DEN BUT THE FOX'S DEN IS CRAZY. SHE SAT WITH BRET BAIER MORE THAN PRESIDENT TRUMP DID THE OTHER WAY AROUND.
AND I THINK JUST -- I DON'T KNOW WHETHER OR NOT THE LEFT OR THE PROGRESSIVES DID OR DIDN'T. I'M CERTAINLY NOT GOING TO DEFEND ANYONE ON THE INSIDE WHO MIGHT HAVE SAID THAT'S TOO SOMETHING. THE ONE THING I WILL SAY I'M SURE THERE WAS DISCOMFORT WITH SOME OF THE PEOPLE THAT HE HAS HAD ON HIS SHOW INCLUDING ALEX JONES IN TERMS OF NOT PUSHING BACK HARD ENOUGH.
SO I DON'T THINK IT'S THAT SIMPLE.
