I found a rare spiritual mystic @Satya_Speaks

I was listening to your videos last night and I haven't been moved the way I think since I first encountered ooso I think you have a very special message I think you a very special way of delivering it and I'm glad I can bring it to more people in some form or shape it's all blessing of worship uh my first question is do you identify as a spiritual Mystic or what is the what how should people conceptualize Satya I call this process Cosmic human which includes spiritual and material I don't make choices because life is

not making choices about upper chakra or lower chakra it's part of one Spectrum seven colors which is Krishna out of sun which is Ram one whole H so I think the problem is by making choices that spiritual or not spiritual you know so point is that you deal with what is in front of you not what you should be what you can be what is in front of because that is the hookum the will of Life H this is the will of life and this includes everything you make a choice you are on Maya Journey

you're lost so as soon as I make a choice I am no longer a cosmic human and I'm now entertaining Maya too hard you got into the Kaluga the Mind World of Tomorrow a linear movement of time H there is is no time happening there's only this happening like ocean you know wave comes and you see wave comes and goes you say a wave a one wave came and one wave left for you that is a counting of time but whereas if you look at it as a ocean there's nothing coming and going it's all

one movement right so experiencing life from that point of view is what state of cosmic human or let's say enlightened state that is what it appears but for us Enlightenment is Duality with what we are now Enlightenment is a different stage that we are in as opposed to where we are now stage whereas this you see in Zen they say Beyond Enlightenment huh bu when when you have a thorn into your foot of let's say desires you take another Thorn which is called meditation spiritual you take it out then you throw away both now you

are with the life as it is H not making not judging any energy because life is not judging anything we are judging we are judging sexuality we are judging emotions people have depressions because they repress their anger I tell you very beautiful solution for depression make the person very very angry his depression will disappear because energy is crushed in you make it explode depression is gone so that's the you know till you see you have to attack your problems not psychologically but energetically H say more say more about that for for example meditation which I

prescribed to people youngsters and hundreds are getting benefit by it they say I have this problem that I just start to do gibberish and shaking meditation shake your body there's one guy in Indonesia he cured people's cancer just by shaking eight hours a day because you're activating your shti which is blocked by the psychologies and the minds and pressures of life you stop flowing so he said don't work on that psychologically just shake your body so first step you shake that is dur the core energy Kini the first two chakras you activate them you'll feel

going mad then Second Step Lakshmi you express and dance it's a shy go wisdom going on then third step you sit absolutely still energy has risen and expressed now it will enter into the third first is ITA Shi second is Kash Shakti and third when you sit down is the Gan Shi you have to start from the root you cannot have FL flowers out there so this is a cycle within us so when you approach problem we try to approach it psychologically whole conditioning is counseling and this and that you are not looking at from

energy angle your energy is stagnant it needs to move whatever you're feeling is a stink rising out of your stagnant water once it's become a river your problem will disappear right because you need to flow right right right right right right why you're suffering something stops you you cannot flow anymore right huh I understand so exactly right so energetically dealing with things and energy dealing is much easy than psychologically trying to understand some truth and Consciousness and all that dealing with your life through intellect thoughts problems and solutions is much more difficult than dealing with

it through energy movement yes and that energy movement happens for instance in your worldview with me shaking first then dancing and then sitting down and that creates the subtle flow of energy that allows my life to go on easier is that what I'm understanding what is the intent of your teaching like are we trying to make I'm coming from the school of thought where I have a inherent sense of disgust for anybody who says I want to meditate for getting more Focus because you've taken meditation something as pure as meditation and made it about your

capitalist greedy Pursuit right I will get good grades I will um I've often spoken about vasna as something I've done I met sometime somebody who was there because they had an interview after that and they were preparing for it and I said you've taken something very Cosmic and reduced it to something very Atomic and very selfish and I don't think the intended effect will happen at that point so what is the intent of what you're teaching is it to make my life easier or is to make you flower as you are designed by life and

what happens if I flower that way means all your potential you're carrying your unexpressed energies will Express as a child we are told to become like that become that become an engineer become this but nobody's looking at a child what potential he or she is carrying and support that to grow we didn't come here to get enlightened right we came here to by the design of life to express the celebration the creativity of Life H and we are not allowed that you know yesterday we were talking that when you have no tension for few days

you start to feel guilty agreed why am so much having fun I should be stressed out right about then you feel Justified to live the life and opposite is that this is a celebration look at Shiva nataraj he's dancing this and we are making it an efficient work so what they do is they take a dancing aspect of spirituality which is pure celebration no ulterior motive you are just like to be here that's what love is I love to be with you that's all not get married or go to bed I just like to sit

in your company that's what essentially meditation is I like to sit with this life then out of that abundance of energy focus is spontaneous but you're not doing sitting to get a focus so you can be efficient so you are misusing higher energy for lower and it is a big curse you will see all the great musicians they have very disaster lives in the end because they start to sell the sarasti it is free sun is free water is free but we are selling what is coming abundantly out of us so hence you cannot form

a system which is sharing system because we want to what is the basic Criterion of any child in today's time whether you can make money only then you are right person otherwise you are not okay something is wrong with you something is wrong with you you need correction and this what child keeps on thinking I can't make money hence I am useless but whereas life's design is each human being is its best creation it's experiment with new design and it has to come to its flowering as it is it doesn't mean you will become less

efficient in material then you actually you will bring Prosperity there but we are told to gather energies making money is what people have billions and some people on Earth are dying hungry so something has gone wrong sadur gave beautiful example that if we see a monkey in a jungle Gathering bananas we will study him that what's wrong with him why he's Gathering bananas that's so interesting we are not checking our human beings billions dollars you know 100 billion 200 billion and there are people dying of hunger people don't have any enough to eat to live

so this is imbalance it imbalance has started because we became efficiency oriented whereas life is creativity and prosp erity oriented when you are creative efficiency comes naturally you see a tree is not being efficient it is being itself and giving out mangoes and apples and hence it makes Prosperity happen I see what you mean Einstein came not out of efficiency with his inventions he came out of his genius flowering right sure so if we have enough human beings functioning out of their nature from the swadharma right from their natural flow will create much more Prosperity

right now every genius is taken by corporate to use into their system into their Excel sheet filling machines you think people are only inventing science today there are people who are inventing who have many many great ideas around the world and they have no takers because nobody gives those things value which can bring Prosperity right so there should be separate funds for you see we are supporting sick humans we are supporting poor humans donations what about donations about genius humans who need help to make earth better right right right right that's what I'm saying right

so we have to support a child's basic design not what I think he should be what I understand from what you're saying is the way the modern world Works probably even predates the modern world is a collective social Neurosis of sorts where people have their own addictions or their afflictions or their or their disaffections they like or dislike and then they've taken to that like and dislike made it into tradition and ritual in a way where like if a child cannot make money for instance where money is an affection then the child's not worth it

the child registers that passes it on to the next Generation so on and so forth and that sort of led to largely a life of efficiency but not a life of Celebration yes and a dance is much better than an efficient way of operating through your environment in whatever robotic capacity we can imagine um I also was very curious about your point where you said um musicians will have generally have a bad end because they start to sell the Saraswati is that to say that creativity must not be commercialized you see in olden times for

example they were not going to sing because they will get money for example there's a story you know that Akbar told Tansen that you know that I haven't seen any better musician than you and T is said I nothing my Guru haridas is amazing he said bring him but he said he never comes and plays in courts how I can hear him he said we'll go in the morning sometimes he wakes up in the morning and starts to play Vina so they waited two three days and one day he played and when they're coming back

Akbar is quiet Tansen asked me what do you think he said you were right you are nothing you see art is a natural spontaneous flow of the cosmic energy but on top top of it is hting our mind which is trying to commercialize it that is the sin so of course you see you asking me something that it shouldn't be or should it be notice most what is happening with singers look at the all the western singers when they start they're great and all then they die overdoses and all that because for example Kumar gandhar

had a throat cancer he was a child genius so this energy has has to be honored there should be systems which will support these kind of people to develop their art not they have to develop art to make money sure sure sure sure sure that's the because it's something Divine it should be for free right it should be shared you know even when I make painting I if we need money we say you give donation for this painting right rather than a price for I I set a price for it you right right right right

right because when you are doing anything for sale of it you're no more doing it you're doing it for the sale of it for right right right and the whole point of spirituality of Love of Tantra of art is when you're completely engrossed with the process H that engross is biti is meditation is creativity right because dancing is not some efficiency to be paid for you sure right it's a celebration of your energy right um if you had to summarize your philosophy what what would it be or your idea as many humans as many philosophies

you need for them right because each person will need a different approach towards life so does it have to do with a form of unique self- expression is that at the end right and that has to be achieved through practices that has to be yes you have to figure out for as I told you that we have basically three expressions like what they call tripura sundari the Shri Lita one is body Castle second is the energy Castle third is the Mind Castle so each person has some dominance you know so working on all our three

energies but today's culture we working only with the mind and the memory we do not have emotional intelligence that my anger is not bad my what whatever I feel is not bad it's a energy to be expressed I'm not saying get angry at people when anger is there deal with it express it don't judge it because energy is creativity and prosperity if it is stuck into your sexuality if it is stuck into your emotionality or if it's stuck into the mind you cannot be prosperous you will be only stealing money which today's business is I

do not do business to you to benefit you as a human I want to get money out of you and what I use fear and greed either give you greed or a fear that's how I will make a business but if my true intention is to benefit you because I'm feeling great I have created this I want you to have it that is lakshi it seems like the outcome can be the same but the intent of it matters that's something to the effect of what you're saying yes right like with what emotion I came up

with this idea myself in my own private musings I called it the theory of ingredients this is just privately for me and what I meant was what you give in order to get is what you will feel after you get so if I walk the Journey of let's say from common paralin material success if I walk the journey joyfully after I have achieved I also feel Joy but if I've stressed all the way to the top then even after getting there I will still continue to feel so it's almost like if I give love to

people I will automatically received and um in that way it changed the way I looked at the process of it yeah and so intent is important that's what you're saying because the action itself is neutral intention you see for example I take a hammer and break the rock you can call it violent but then I create a om and RAM out of it my intention is to give form not to destroy a form violence is violence when you destroy just to destroy but when Krishna cuts a head of a shishupal he's releasing him he's not

cutting his head to destroy him he's stopping his karma maow so he can grow further H so when like if somebody is going to kill 10 of your friends and holding a gun and you have option to shoot him now you will follow nonviolence or you will use violence to protect 10 lives well I think it's a very good example because my one of the points at which I don't know how to make sense of spirituality is that you can say we are all one we are the waves of an ocean and therefore an ocean

but if one wave is holding a knife to the other waves Thro then there is no one then you are you and I am I there's a separation immediately as soon as it's about the body as soon as about health right so um in that way like I think it's a brilliant example but keep going tell me more first thing what Arjun says in Gita and Krishna answers him right puita finishes in the first chapter only but Arjun doesn't get it he said that we keep on coming and we keep on going we are always

here nobody gets killed nobody kills that's the point you should remember nobody gets killed and nobody kills it's the process you know h a form is destroyed nothing is destroyed it comes again but we have made laws and we kill for our greed etc etc that you break the law of energy otherwise life is killing you think right now hundreds of people are dying right now right and hundreds are baby taking birth right so which we will say is the life it's both huh whereas life itself is eternal so this is one of the why

Indian spirituality we made it very moralistic otherwise it's dangerous man you understand what I'm saying kind of you cannot be black or white you have to be gray right that's why Krishna is not understood we only worship His Gita aspect or Kana aspect but he where he was politicians where he was using strategies to defeat others it's all part of the game you think that Mar BR and Godfather is an evil person no he's playing the character and he's playing it beautifully mhm so it's about again aore aspect nothing is right or wrong what needs

to be done in a given moment if you are playing politics I play politics back I don't play Holy there because you don't deserve my Holiness right because you're playing politics so I counter it with politics right if you're are being open and loving to me I also become open and loving so you see you are not making Judgment of any color fair fair fair I understand so I'm approaching life with a general lack of social morality the way the world has colored things I'm ignoring that and I'm engaging with it completely in this moment

and what that means is if you are being violent towards me I cannot respond in non nonviolence which I think is the error that gandhian ethics made in this country budhism and Buddhism for that matter it became a Continuum where we said listen and that's never a good solution you were saying the krishn ways if if I'm being met with violence as the us I have to respond in violence because allowing a violence on yourself is also violence because you're allowing somebody to violate you your first responsibility unlike Gandhi you don't give me something I'll

start to go on Fast and kill myself that's not nonviolence that is masochism so whereas you have to protect this life you are entitled and given responsibility by life you have to protect what design is given to you and you have to use all your colors wisdom martial power power of love everything to work around that castle on that vasu it's not you only basically it's the life itself which uses all its things to further create life but what we do is that we start to judge destruction people can destroy you it's okay but if

you destroy then they will say you are doing a wrong thing so this has to be understood but another aspect is you have to be very clear with your intention are you coming out out of even with violence are you coming out of aggression or are you coming out of need of situation in martial art it teach you can you generate a punch without any emotional aggression and that punch is so powerful because coming with one total energy but when you're emotional your energy is divided between the emotion and the action yeah but when you

are just pure energy and attack now it's not a aggression it's a counter to the aggression with pure energy so you are not aggressive in the psychology but in your action you're detering a violence in Sikhism they say n nare right huh they protected India and they were devotees and their one practice was chanting home and when you are creative when you are singer you're also a good warrior right you're not fighting to control others but protect others protect life that is going to happen in future because people are going to become independent in their

taking care because morality is keeping people manipulated all the time H you judge your aggression you judge every aspect of all times and if you become very sensitive to your own perception like we were discussing I learned that through the silence method of vas you realize it's everything from the way you wake up to the way you brush your teeth you have small judgments attached to everything that stop you from experiencing the said thing at all I remember the first time I was in vasna there was a moment in five or six days where I

looked at the grass and I finally saw grass and I was 25 years of age when I first time I saw a blade of grass properly because what generally happens is I look at the grass and I have a picture of grass I have a concept of grass and that gets imputed onto the grass and I look at the concept never the grass itself I went to the teacher running I said listen I don't know why I'm seeing in high definition MH I like I I can see the drops on a grass blade and the

teacher said now you are finally seeing and it took me 3 days to just wrap my head around that idea that most of us walk in a low resolution like oh the wall okay crass like we just walk like this all the time 95% what we call living is nothing but thoughts only 5% will live in 70 years rest just ideas about things and for example the way you saw the grass that's is exactly the point when you look at the judgments like that also they dissolve because when I somebody is bad I have a

emotional content with it I have a judgment and a story but when I just look at it it's just a thought it dissolves then you can look at a person as they are similarly with your anger you just have firsthand experience what is anger do you know why we like anger why you get angry right sometimes sometimes but sometimes you must have gotten angry sure sure yeah yeah isn't it a juicy space right even sadness is so juicy yeah so juicy that's the point right that juice is a flow of energy if you don't judge

there is so such a spectrum of color into your emotions and those needs to be expressed and lived best artwor came when people artists were going through a trauma or a suffering because your energy gets concentrated in sadness and you can have insights when you're happy you will never get insights yeah yeah yeah happiness is a numb State when you are in pain you know why we are suffering in pain because our mind cannot think or do anything else it's only focused on pain right that concentration is killing you not the pain your psychology wants

some drama some other distraction but you are 3 hours just there it is actually this is the true process of kini meditation when you really focus on something put your whole energy you start to dissolve it but we do not stay with our inner traumas long enough because we afraid of if you just keep on feeling it you will say when shaki comes in front of Shiva she starts to unfold her forms that's what healing is when man is looking at a woman without any judgment without any ideas without any pornography she start to unfold

her feminine aspect to her so every thing in an energy is feminine aspect which we judged and it's blocked if you just be with her she starts to reveal herself that Revelation is what sidhi is new insight is interesting so it is about what I am teaching is direct participation with this right if you have anger don't ask me what to do with anger feel it live it um there's this very interesting thing I heard in an Oso lecture where he said if you are about to cry become crying itself and the crying will disappear

if you're about if you're angry become anger and I never understood what it kind of means what does it mean to become anger itself and the anger does not have that impact on you becoming anger means when anger is there if you do not have judgment a words saying oh I am angry I shouldn't be angry you have become two one is anger energy and one is the thinking energy but point is when your anger anger because whole point is anger is good or bad or emotion is right and wrong because you judge it otherwise

it's pure energy for example there's one technique Shiva says when in Rage freeze stop do not move you're full of Rage just stop and it will take some time but you will see rage is there and you're not moving at all the whole rage will become love after 15 minutes same shiuh you didn't give a usual way out that's what is in Tantra is saying you don't ejaculate your energy you just be with it it starts to go inwards and upwards because energy is a movement so your judgments are freezing them inside you if you

don't judge energy is very liquid if it doesn't find exact outside it will move in become your meditation become your Insight right become your wisdom but your judgment makes you dump right if you are with the situation just feel the situation think of situation but no judgment you will start to have insights because you're going to Corners which you never looked because of your judgment I say this is grass I stop looking at it when I look I see insect is moving there are other plantations also there's so much details people who are geniuses they

know details more than us that's all right right right right so how to know detail be there present looking at every detail look at Krishna morti say very beautiful technique which is very easy to do he said go to a Garden look at everything in the garden each detail of the leaves branches insects moving and then after half an hour close your eyes now look at your mind like a garden thought this thought came that thought came suddenly you are separated now you're seeing mind as an instrument otherwise when thought comes you think it's me

and you attach yourself to it and ride it to the end you act upon it you push it away or something and it becomes more this is true Vasa just looking not choosing breath and then saying oh it's a negative feeling I'll let it dissolve no you don't say anything you see second method which is not practiced and talked a lot it's a technique in Vian bantra which says Krishna like this is krishna's Method include everything means I am the body I am the thought I am the emotions I am the confusion I am the

sadness once you don't say I'm not sadness or I'm not the body when you become one with it Duality disappears whole suffering is of The Duality when anger comes you become one with you don't judge you will see it comes like a wave and settles right right right right right you don't have to look for the person to release it on sure sure sure there's something very interesting I heard from you uh in one of your videos and it kind of I mean it was only last night so I'm assuming I don't know how long

it last but it's made my life at least 10% better only one sentence which was when you're doing something you will notice there is always a contradicting energy also that you're trying to produce I'm doing this but maybe I should not and then if you just drop the contradiction then doing it becomes easier and your life becomes more Blissful am I understanding this properly yes you understood it perfectly right and it's it's constantly happening should I say this but I should not right like should I do this but I should not something that is the

secret man it's as simple as that you become me action when you're sitting just sit when you're drinking just drink right you will become Cosmic movement and that Cosmic movement is creative is love is wisdom I learned about you from a video that went very viral I'm sure you know the one that I'm talking first one you are not looking at it it's enjoying the show we're not enjoying the show if you say I love this to this empty vast Cosmos you think there will be no response usually people use this logic to say the

contrary that there will be no response m but we never try you till you don't stop complaining it won't show you her face you have to say I am willing to see it's a dare man inviting life to interact with you directly be ready to go crazy because socially you will be called crazy because you could start talking on the way on the road people think you're imagining but you're not it's the true most conversation you're having with life whatever you say think every particle of Life vibrates we are that impactful and we don't know

that that's what bti is I exist right and I don't exist alone I have a wisdom I have a mind I have a heart that means I am the blueprint of something else otherwise I cannot pop out of nothingness with heart and mind and everything so there must be a totality from which I've have come and you are connecting with it but what happens when you say I love you to the cosmos like how does your life change because I feel I I I'll give you a little more context on this I was driving with

a friend of mine and I was mentioning that I'm going to be speaking to you and I played this video and they non-indian so they understand English better and they understood this and I said I don't know it feels right but I don't know how that there is something to this idea of saying I love you to the cosmos that would change the way my life operates but I can't figure out what it is so what is it like Krishna says in G somewhere in the beginning three four chapter howsoever you perceive me I'll appear

to you like that and this is also proved into the this physics Laboratories and all that that the electrons neutrons whatever you call them they reflect whatsoever is in front of them they start to become like that if you say life is accidental your life will become accidental if you say life is beautiful life will become beautiful for you because there is not one Cosmos there are 7 billion Cosmos is going on that's the creativity of Life So when you say I love this love reflects back and that is the change which happens to you

because you only receive what it's life is an echo Point let's say right you say you'll say somebody saying you say beautiful and you say beautiful so that's what it is you know because it's you only there's a martial arts I was this guy took out the video because he said I don't want to propagate it he was it's a special method of nonviolent martial arts this guy goes to hit him with a stick and this guy is completely nonresistance threatening when hit goes stick goes there to him and it strikes him you understand Echo

if you somebody's enlightened you give them a gal and there's nobody there now your G will return like like what you know Boomerang right right right right comes back to you so whatever you are vibrating out it will reflect back to you so we vibrating worries and fears we are creating them because you're a Brahma you are a Creator each thought is forming you but if you say I love you you have given birth to yourself in a new Cosmos where everything is loving you back hm I still have some like you have to ask

it more technically than I can answer you because I right now I can explain you as much I can explain depends on your question nah that's fine no I mean what I'm saying is I I do understand this idea that if I hand generosity out generosity will find me someone else will be further generous to me it will almost be that I attract that kind of energy right like um if I go out and I look for beauty Beauty will or not even look for beauty but appreciate the world for its beauty more Beauty will

appear to me it's almost like my eyes and my body and my mind are rewired to approach that system better and so I almost felt like if I go out and saying that I love whatever is happening more Love Will Find me yes and and my life the probably the dominant emotion of my life is going to be love as opposed to for most people it is stress or worry or something of that nature right have I understood this properly yes yes beautiful okay another thing I would like to add is that that we never

notice appreciation is the deepest point appreciation and gratitude look your breath is going by itself your heart is beating by itself your food digest by itself sun is giving you energy and you feel not cared something must be wrong with us once you feel this first time you feel what mother is 24/7 without a pause it's constantly maintaining you once you start to feel this maintaining tears will come to your eyes you will start to dance your fear will disappear because you are in the lap of the mother you are into lap of this present

moment but it's not a philosophy it has to be felt it has to be seen but nobody is really in the present otherwise present is not just a gap between past and future present is a living being like your woman is a living being but she has become your wife or something other that living being is Cosmic so once you're in the present you start to feel this movement of energy which we call love the undivided flow of energy is love sure when you are not judging energy whatever you do is love then not love

the emotional romantic love we talk about or ethical kind of love love I love thee and whatever right the whole because love means heart chakra heart chakra me manifestation chakra sky is above Earth is down they meet male female meet and light is created this is tripura suar the present it's by nature is is called Amit it's Eternal H have you ever seen any moment when you were not in the moment no it's impossible always on it's always on and if still we doubt we wonder what is eternal we wonder what is god wow that's

beautiful this but we're not looking if you look you don't have to say I love you that very appreciation Life Starts to appreciate you back so it's being there right being with yourself first right only then you can be with somebody else so this point is very important that appreciation and participation forget about Enlightenment forget about material success these two things will make you bloom in every angle because Life whom you think materiality belongs to humans no it belongs to life only and who are you life who does spirituality Belong To You enlightened people no

to life so these are your two wings or root and the flower once you're present you will see that you are extended upward and downward that's what the symbolic meaning of danush ban when you hold the bow one is spiritual other is material you hold on to spiritual you can't shoot arrows no you hold on to material you can't shoot arrows but the right tension too much tension it will break break too much loose it will not shoot balance tension you can shoot so don't make a choice spiritual material stay there h both are there

any emotion comes don't say I don't want it or I want it be with it you will see that energy becomes yours what you're fighting your anger you're saying wrong you are handicapping Yourself by cutting your own energy this is anger H sure I say how to get rid of it I cut my hand or I just relax it's my power only right so that's what spirituality does to you all your energy distorted and stuck in different mindsets and emotions you withraw your energy back it becomes your power that's how you become powerful when you

stop wasting into blockages into unnecessary thoughts that gathered energy creativity love prosperity you cannot solve it with psychology it's not possible I was seeing this interview this guy was asking people in New York on the road all psychiatrist have you healed anybody everybody's going uh right I've seen that I've seen that there is much to say about I mean I think being able to talk about your emotions is probably one fractional sometimes maybe more than a fractional part of solving the problem because at first you must have to deal with the realization that there is

a problem right there might be this pain in the darkness you might have a thorn in your foot but you cannot look at the foot and you cannot identify the thorn and for that matter speaking to somebody you pay you know to understand there there might be sense to it we do it between friends we do it with family but to assume that either that is the solution or for that matter Psychiatry which is administ mathematically calculated medicines to a person's brain not his mind which are two completely different unsto phenomenas um so I think

the way science approaches the mind is completely deficient as a matter of fact I studied psychology uh at one of the world's best universities I was privileged in that way and I remember just going through those classes even as a 25 26 year old being they got they got it wrong the minute you start to tell me I'm seven happy what the hell does seven happy mean of 1 to 10 how happy are you I don't know I don't know what is your 10 what is my 10 I like and not just that there's there's

several issues in the study of psychology for instance it studies Behavior not thought you cannot study thought yeah and so I've always found that art literature metaphor spirituality religion is a way better way to understand how the mind works then psychology maybe psychoanalysis is interesting but that's that's what I come come to find um the other thing I know from certain experience with spirituality is that you can say all of this theoretical stuff these theoretical stuff these thoughts are almost like they're like alcohol they get you high a little bit and if you were to

truly be high then you would move on to the practice if you enjoy that one sip once in a while you would come listen to these thoughts get a little intoxicated and then come back that's mostly how gurus are used yeah yeah and that is mostly what our population is used to it's that small little hit and then I can move 10 days and then come back for it um and so I I I get all these thoughts I have a sense of them but there are access points to it meditation is famously or the

different forms of meditations are uh many different access points and you recommend a lot of meditations there very there's a different set of meditations you talk about can you tell me a little bit about the meditations I always start with people to work on their body first because that is a root no need to talk about your branches and flowers and mind and all that first unpollute your energy on the body level move a lot work with body shake your body express your body dancing and everything 50% of your problems will disappear from there only

from dancing from dancing from physically expressing H like I was telling these guys that I got saved from my social Darkness I started to learn martial arts and painting H I survived that because my energy was Finding its expression I would create I will punch and everything shti needed to flow not I problem needed to be solved you know what somebody is doing when they're talking about it the problem they want their energy to flow but they intellectualize it and make it flow but actual energy did not flow hence it can't help you we are

energy beings we are not thought beings so that is the first realization I want people to have see yourself as electric being right now we're talking it's happening purely in the now thoughts are secondary Shadows otherwise this present movement this is what we call Hanuman this pure Eternal present going on Amit vikay means Eternal action going on by itself so that is what so for that you use your body you use martial arts you use creativity you use taii because there is a martial arts for Yang movement aggressive taii is Yin movement so you have

to know both your movements how to be rudra how to be bhadra how to be hard how to be soft so Kini meditation you shake which is very rudra dancing is balance and sitting still is very badra badra so till you do not know the extremes of your being you cannot do any work in between people just work only with bhadra when it comes to rudra they close their eyes so that dark aspect overtakes you that's what our dark side is Shadow side is Shadow yes you know so it's working essentially with the energy and

of course with the other techniques slowly then you go Roots wise up from the physical aspect you work with the energy your sensuality your sexuality have no judgments look at it in a sacred way even relate with a woman more from a sacred aspect see her like a goddess not some girl some idea then third is thoughts creative thought not a repeated thought then dialogue from the heart then who you are throat five elements but basic trouble is with the first three chakras physically we are blocked sensually energetically pleasure wise we are blocked thought wise

we're crammed with too much internet and thoughts agree now you expect self-realization forget about it I don't even expect peace at that point self-realization is still a far stretch right but we are not being practical you know that you have to first oil your Machinery you have to work with the body and you start to get joy out of it then that Joy is the point not Enlightenment not Liberation that Joy of movement why you think this is going on you think it's some efficiency it's a abundance and joy of energy which is forming Mountain

rocks Galaxy GES and galaxies are taking birth and once you acknowledge that joy and bring that joy to your life you become the Brahma you are the Brahma but it's not a concept it's the way you move that's why was saying in taii you move we have three movements you know in us any given moment mental movement this mind I want to pick a cup right then there's emotional movement that I like something I'm going for it emotional but at the same time it's a cosmic movement also nothing is your personal how to come from

the mental movement to the cosmic movement in you H that is the swadharma aspect so that can be experienced from head you shift to your Naval Center the Primal animal into you and we judge that animal yeah I think all of society is a moral super structure to do away with that animal right um look at a no sure he's touching first 3 years is in Bliss he's just feeling from the navl all enlightened person people become Naval centered all the people in darkness are mind centered everything is a thought a concept but here in

your belly Hara which martial arts use which is your intuition Center there you're connected with a cosmic database you just know what is right thing to do you don't need justification right and that's the point of it there is a the juice of it there is a point in my life where I was very anxious as they say it um lot of worry lot of stress lot of thinking lot of fear all of these things happening and I had a friend who said PR her she said something along the lines of you don't act from

your Intuition or instinct or something of that nature and in that moment I was like I don't even know how to access my intuition like I know what you're saying I have previously been able to do that now I think I'm somewhat gaining my intuition but for a long enough period of time I didn't know what my Intuition or my instinct was and I feel like you coming at something similar about the naval am I like yeah so what is happening there like why am I not able to access my intuition and how what does

that have to do with my Naval repression of sensuality sexuality disconnects you from intuition and sexuality does go down at that time at least the base Act of sexuality when you're that stressed and whatever you know it's common knowledge because then that is a way to release it when you're in stress right your Shakti has no other way so you want to release it release the tension but point is if you are disconnected from your sensuality you cannot stay connected with your navl Center you will come somewhere here up there even this is blocked because

emotional repression so your this diaphragm is blocked so you don't breathe you breathe up only right right right that's why there is a acti dysfunction happening because you're not breathing till the end in theism they say you should breathe till the foot thumb it should go all the way down but our breath stays up here how does it go all the way down Prana not the air man huh okay your whole body breathe you know that if I paint your body with oil paint you will die within 2 minutes because every cell breathes in The

Prana and breathes out The Prana so your whole body should breathe in then you will feel I am the cosmos Cosmos is breathing in breathing out through me that is the experience of this Naval Center you are not separate this is the mother Center you're connected with the cosmic network from here right right right and that is what your swadharma is this design you are aware as an instinct that what you are supposed to do in life but that is repressed to make animal adult slave in the society well said right right right so the

whole process if you look at it in detail we are being trained to become slaves all education system everything is saying be nice to others be obedient means what you say matters what I feel does not matter H so we are disconnected so there's one technique which works very powerfully that this circulation of spine and round you'll start to get centered into no you have to do it slowly you do it very very slowly and feel where the movement is coming from it is coming from the base if you keep on doing with awareness you

will get centered there it will take a week then you will feel you are different animal sitting in the room because your whole attention has moved from the mind to the naval very interesting and also you will feel sexuality but if you don't have a judgment or want to ejaculate and release that is your power Gathering you see Samurai has a big bellies not because they're fat your energy starts to gather they would judge somebody's wisdom in Japan through their how big their belly is because they're carrying that they're not here huge Heads This is

no head at all head doesn't exist belly exist there you are a vital charismatic energy being very interesting for example if you are doing taii kind of thing and in the belly you'll see females are getting attracted to you just automatically just automatically that's a secret many guys will say yes's connect because this is I see guys talking to be here feel her vibration right right this very childish you're not looking you're not feeling what is sitting but when you are here you sense but people get uncomfortable because if I can feel you you can't

hide from me I spot on if you can make eye contact there is no hiding there is no hiding yes and if you're seeing from belly not just looking and hear and you're just seeing I just know what's going on and that's why we are avoiding any kind of energy connection energy you touch as I said in one video that why you only time when Rebellion happen in society is when couples fall in love they connect with their energy though no though don't give a about anything social they say I don't care I will die

for her where that is coming from you first time become aware of a different Joy now you want to don't want to let it go yes marriage will kill it that is different you killed it but that energy is what courage is huh a warrior who lives there he is not afraid of dying because he know this energy the joy of it is so amazing and this Center protects us also you know and animals live from this Center if I am connected here you come to talk to me I know whether I'm going to like

you or not not by the Judgment just my system will say nuh M right another is smell if I don't like your smell it won't work nothing will work between us everybody because smell is related with the body your first introduction of your chemical wisdom is through the smell if my nose does not like your smell means something in your system frequency it won't work in Africa uh there are some marriages Happening by smelling each other H the smell you like the best is the one you marry there is science to that yes mhm so

that science is hidden from us everybody's perfumed then you feel betrayed once you marry then oh she smells no no marriage is not going to work right so the the research is that you are able to tell your immunological um like how well you would go immunologically when you try to make babies buy the smell and this is an ancient technology available to us but the scents have actually hidden it from everyone it's a real thing yes I tell youngsters that you know when you want to get into a relation tell her not to take

show tell him not to take shower for two days then meet then smell each other and now being more visual send me your picture when you wake up in the morning right see you I want to see that face and smell then I'll decide now you're being very practical you know right right right right this is most practical thing then you tell us whether you like or not you know right that should be the thing that relationships fall apart at their lowest and so you must be prepared for the worst like when it is kind

of okay or good there will not be a falling out as such it will not destroy the relationship but it is when you wake up in the morning when you look your ugliest that the other person will be turned off or when you haven't showered in 3 days and smell the worst that the other person will be turned off and uh so my very trivial advice to people who ask me about relationships is make sure you know how you fight because that is the worst moment you are having in some way right how ugly that

gets will determine the future of your relationship you see for as I say to people which is aor way which is more like organic way I have to if I'm in a relation with you I have to allow you to hate me also I have to allow you to angry with me also because you are a whole rainbow of emotion I welcome all aspects of you only then love will sustain and maintain but we say you can't get angry with me you can't say this you can't be irritated then I am being tamed into a

nice guy all the time if I can't get angry my energy needs an expression so other is available for that and not judging it I will feel more love because I can flow right I remember once I had a big breakup fight with my girlfriend and we fought with each other and she slapped I slapped and everything I thought it was over but that very evening we fell in love again because two years of garbage gathered released into slapping each other and get I'm not propagating slap just talking about that right today I don't feel

like talking to you it doesn't mean relation is ending I need to go away this should be accepted and allowed because coming together means next clap will come when both hands are away right so it should be Breathe In Breathe Out be together be away sometimes I don't like you it's okay but we start to doubt or why I'm not feeling love is it ending right so you see energy expression same is about that in relations that if I am attracted to a woman that means I am a human animal which will attract other women

also I shouldn't be told I'm not saying go and sleep I shouldn't be told don't feel that right right right whom you're trying to deceive he must be feeling she must be feeling accept it right only then she's alive and expanding that's why she will love for you but if you ask her to shrink and open only with me that's not possible POS and therefore nobility is possible that I have all these females I'm attracted to but I reserve my intimacy for you the choice of reserving my intimacy for you that nobility I think comes

from the base that yes there are options there are many people I cannot blind myself to the idea that I'm not attracted to many people or she's not attracted to many people am I understanding yes and there is a science behind why to maintain one relation also that whenever we have physical intimacy with somebody there is exchange of karmic patterns also if you're sleeping with too many partners your whole system gets confused you start to live other people's karmas it's not hunky dory happy thing I around and I'm fine no your whole system is being

corrupted because the electric exchange sir and with that I am taking in your personality haven't you seen certain company within 2 three days you start to behave differently what is happening exchange of karma so multiple relations you start to live other people's karmas into your system so once you understand this then you will choose one partner but you will give out a fragrance that will attract you respect that be friends but physically you have to be kind of having your own Durga the your own fort nobody else should enter but that I can maintain if

I'm allowed to walk around also not to feel suffocated by the will or jealousy of one person right that way the Friendship has to be that this is another human being who decided to be with me so has as many friends you know for example your personality need many kind of Expressions one woman or one man is not enough psychologically I mean sure with some people you feel gel certain talks you cannot talk with your boyfriend or girlfriend talk with them Express with them so you're knowing all your colors right that brings in your right

rainbow of what love is you know it's a rainbow you know heart also has seven chakras the heart itself has seven chakras because it's expression of seven energies in us and those energies are all seven CH okay okay fair fair fair take I understand so as a sort of litmus test whenever I engage in conversations that have anything to do with for that matter of philosophy spirituality the body Etc I ask or I aim to ask about sex right and well we were discussing earlier about how love is not understood as love it is understood

as this modern manifestation of romantic love almost as if Romeo Juliet extracted is love love and all other forms of Love Are whatever like you people don't necessarily understand similarly I think sex is distorted as well I think uh the questions around sex people have many opinions what is the position of sex in society what is the position of sex in someone's personal life how must one understand sex and sexuality you see we have to go to the childhood first that once a child masturbates he's feeling guilty and wrong in the beginning he's not he's

just enjoying his Shi then parents see it they say what are you doing so first trauma happens with your own pleasure and feel of the body and there you are corrupted now whenever you will engage into that you will have in the background this thing I'm not doing something right or opposite has happened to the west from repression to they went to overindulgence that is still a repression expressed in overe expression whole point what we call Dura Kini Shakti is the sexual energy which has capacity to create New Life sure how that can be wrong

or bad but we are trained and because male female interaction is controlled and uh made part of social this thing we have disconnected from the pure energy of it feel of it for example I tell youngsters that you cannot stop masturbating but at least do not pollute your energy during masturbation do not feel guilty about it do not use pornography H just enjoy the feel all over your body how it's alive and vibrating in that because if I'm carrying certain Dark Energy pornographic energies when I will have sex with a woman I will project all

those energies into her and alter her energy also that is the pollution but if I have a very good connection with with my energy then you start to preserve it also because this energy becomes your Genius becomes your creativity becomes your Prosperity only one energy is there the shaki and Shiva that's what nandi represents muladhara Shiva is riding it means awareness its vehicle is basic kamja the sexual force that sexual force is the efficiency the creativity of everything so we the strategy of society is if your energy becomes contradictory within you will become a weaker

person you'll be easier to control if you are a good connection with your energy with your sexuality you will not compromise you know yourself as a shaki as a energy not as a psychology which is about right and wrong good and bad so if we want a new health healthy Humanity we have to teach people people have to learn about their sexuality completely free from any outer pressure right it is just energy which is giving you Joy and you're feeling oh I need to another is ejaculation psychology Tantra is saying to you that enjoy the

circulation of energy it doesn't want to really ejaculate when you are sharing with the woman she receives and gives you energy back this circulation start to and liven and expanding your aura you both become very powerful in Tantra ejaculation is allowed only when you want to give birth to a baby otherwise you circulate energy so a couple when they go without ejaculation for example they can keep on feeling this attraction all the time right that'll be so amazing oh right but how do you st like two three days you're saying okay don't show me your

face right real real but this Electric feel will make you very powerful you know there were couples in India 100 thousand years back or something they used to live in one robe naked and uh Indians killed them shunned them out of the tantrics were destroyed because they were approaching Shakti directly without any social good right wrong they would interact with each other through energy but our our psychology is the more ambitious a person is more he will suffer from premature ejaculation because you want to reach goals you do not know how to just feel and

enjoy the energy and circulate it same is with anger same is with anything any pain comes you want oh this is happening that is happening but if you just be with it and feel the vibration of it you are learning a sustaining power of containing power that contain in power is what becomes your prosperity and intelligence so essentially the basic flaw lies in our approach towards sexuality and our own body also right so we see sexuality as this isolated Act of animalist sex when in fact it is the combined energy of our body and that

is where the flow of energy sort of begins it's the flow that allows us to create which is what makes us so unique and so first we need a reimagination of what Sexual Energy is and it as that on a personal front if you are a man or a woman who is ejaculating do not pollute with pornography cuz that pollutes further down the line yes right and how much sex should a person be having is there how should one approach sex in their personal life you see if you look at sex what is the essential

Drive essential drive is not the sex we know it's longing to create huh if you want to understand I gave this example on my talk if you want to understand what male psychology take a deep breath in and hold it this Longing To Breathe Out is the male sexuality and female sexuality breathe out and hold your breath longing to take in is the female sexuality but what this circulation of energy it has ability to create so Osho said that if you want to really go beyond sexuality you have to become super creative in your life

because when I'm having sex with a woman it's not about the sensation and the idea of pornography my energy is now creating going to create a baby but it's another thing quom comes in between or whatever right but otherwise it's a drive essentially is to create so if you understand let's not call it sexuality but creativity then you will see Dimensions open up if you start to dance if you create more think of projects and multip expand your energy your drive for sexuality psychological sexuality will disappear when body needs like for example Tantra technique says

that Shiva says stay in the beginning don't go for orgasm just keep on for playing with each other after 1 hour you will feel satisfied but if you you have psychology is not into how to release it then your energy will circulate all over your body you'll be healthier and more vibrant but what we do is we keep our energies on the muladhara our other chakras are not open we are blocked emotionally blocked but once Sexual Energy starts to move inside you it starts to circulate through your whole system many things will come up also

it's like a healing so that circulation because the whole river path is blocked psychologically sensually judgments so you are kind of looking to release the stress because creativity is a power it can feel like a stress also but if you know how to like uh one meditation whicho said that first dance together right then sit down do humming together so you start to feel other as a energy being then start to touch you will feel a different phenomena all together otherwise two minds are coming and using their body to create a friction and release energies

this is what we call sex it's not sex it's masturbation using the other's body yeah you don't extend out and enter other and circulate the other into you I I I kind of follow um and if I were to access my Sexual Energy in this way or for that matter if I were to realize that energy and sexuality have so much to do with each other your preferred way like you mentioned earlier was first starting with a little bit of shaking then this free flow dancing am I is there a specific way to this shaking

or dancing I'm the reason I'm asking this question is let's say if somebody was to start today and they were to start with this meditation that you gave me which is first shaking then dancing is there a specific way in which I'm doing this practical aspect of things yeah there is a whole technique with it there are four music steps first 15 15 15 15 first 15 15 minutes you shake your body in in a specific way or just randomly like this no you have to shake from your legs whole body you have to shake

te so you have to shake very aggressively so all all the stored energies into your muscular system will start to open up heat up then you will feel many things coming up you'll feel very aggressive you will feel you want to scream and shout so just keep on shaking and once energy is awake then next step you bring it to the expression because energy wants expression not want ejaculation m so you start to dance and express it will open your creativity and once you have expressed third step you sit down become absolutely still now energy

body is still your energy is moving inside it starts to open other channels and it activates your third ey the wisdom you settle into Gan sh itcha shti is the shaking Awakening your Basic Energy K shaki is the dancing and sitting still is the Gan shaki these three if you become fluid and flowing it will take one month two months then you will notice your whole personality is changing yes you have to be watch out you may become volatile with other people before you are nice and repressing then you will not take any right so

that has to be considered right it's okay to be an when it's for your health right sure otherwise you go home and about person for months you imagine I could have said that yeah right that mind is much worse than just saying listen I do not like this please do not say it you'll not feel angry but you let him say and then you go home and mind about it for two months right what is just so this shaking will break the blockages of energy into your uh Meridian system that's what Ganesh Mantra does if

you chant Ganesh Mantra it will open all the Meridian points that's why Ganesh Mantra is used before and any sad first your energy system has to be flowing smoothly and I tell you if you do all this then you do vipasana you will see a very different beautiful experience because in a deep way viasa is also a bti to be with this and let the Beloved move you just watch and listen isn't that bii isn't that being with somebody just enjoying the company but we with person watching going Beyond Maya we have made it in

efficiency otherwise just be with and injoy joy that is biti right right right right right right I've also found in fact my understanding of Love Is Love is consequential and unavoidable to Silence with enough silence you are automatically filled with love like the experience of leaving vipasana or for that matter talking for the first time after your tremendous you are just filled with so much love for the cosmos you know why was that why un nondual energy in you which becomes love sure when you're watching slowly slowly you're withdrawing from your judgments now you're pure

energy and by Nature pure energy is lxmi the love H is constantly expanding and expanding and expanding that's why they said I am infinite not some thought right you actually feel you're plugged in everywhere right but you have to be present and energy in a non du State undivided energy we get divided by our thoughts so essentially this Kini process is to experience yourself as shaki sure as pure energy and we have fears with that because there you will encounter your animal I have actually heard I want to come to Kundalini um I have actually

heard a lot about this which is to the effect that after my last vasna experience I was mentioning before it was extremely loud like it was almost I couldn't do it again for a while I was like I don't want to meditate the s stions I felt on my body were overwhelming I was telling you fear of a magnitude where even with all the wisdom of being with the fear I could not be with the fear and once I got out and I had access to resources at this point I hadn't looked into Kundalini something

came across me which was talking about Kundalini and I started wondering if and you know how they talk about Kundalini on the Internet it's almost a gimmick your Kundalini the serpent is rising the serpent is rising and if it rises before you will lose your mind and there's all this fear built around Kundalini I think my feel was that the way people talk about Kundalini is almost like a comic book version of an encyclopedia right and so help me understand what is Kundalini and is it really the fear-based ecosystem around Kundalini is that true you

read so many accounts of people on Reddit and Twitter saying boss I lost my mind I hear voices I can travel through things and that is because my Kundalini awoke before it was supposed to is that what is this you see we have three layers of energy superficial layer then emotional then the cosmic layer within us you know so what we call kini is the dormant force in us which is resting at the base of our spine right so without Kini you can't even lift your hand so Kini is all there so when we doing

shaking so there are two type of methods one is yogic Method where you use specific breathing and specific techniques to make your energy go up there you need a guru and right techniques otherwise it can go wrong it can go wrong yes but what I am prescribing what I'm am sharing is it's a spontaneous way of Kini you first activate your energy because Yogi is not going to express and dance so he has to know the right techniques right methods right mantras to keep on channeling it rightly if you make a little mistake it will

burn you because you have played with the nature you see all joking methods are unnatural by the way they're not spontaneous you're forcing something to come up right you were using sounds for vibrations and that vibrations are producing right but you can still use the vibrations but without making any business with life you understand what I'm saying if I'm seeing a do this then I'll get this Powers now you are in wrong State of Mind there life will do a deal with you also it will if you make a mistake life will cut you out

it will cancel you out you will not get any loan any right right right but when you are doing just to participate with life that's what I am sharing shaking means your intention is to remove the blockages from your shaki when shaki start to move you give it an expression so this is like testing that K drop by drop it slowly starts to activate all your chakras in a SP ous way each chakra what whatever it is supposed to live you give it an expression but Yogi is avoiding first two then with this also everything

is attachment and thoughts are problem so of course that is fine you go through that this is fire method fire means dropping everything unuseful and becoming pure other is a water method which is DSM taii and Tantra the Where You Are are containing your water and water starts to rise opens your chakras it's more spontaneous way you're not forcing but you are gathering H in that Gathering so with shaking you first release the blockages Energy starts to flow you give it an expression so your system becomes smooth then after that then now you are qualified

to do meditations now when you will sit for meditation energy will spontaneously move to the third eye to whichever chakra you doing meditation with it starts to flow through that that flow is like a s kind of s yog you know right effortless for example DSM does not work on cleaning but they say don't resist thing when you don't resist thing your energy starts together you are losing energy only by fighting with things gusa why why there is anger why there is this why there is thought if thought is there you don't say anything okay

so you're conserving that conserved Energy starts to open up and starts to rise higher and you will not have a problem with that because you're not pushing you're not putting it on fire with some LSD with some iasa or with some pranayam techniques and focusing on third eye without having any Roots you will go crazy what you are giving out to me is your energy flowing out through me to you but if you really focus then it will start to activate your kin also H so um shaking will activate that energy dancing will give it

form yeah that is Durga shaking dancing is lxmi expression expression and is there a specific way I'm dancing no allow the body you have to give permission to Shakti to flow not to control your woman how she wants to make forms this will multiply your wisdom because what is idiot is his wisdom moves only in few channels but his genius is goes everywhere try this with your body allow your body to make forms for one month you you were thinking you're breaking boxes right breaking out of boxes into your head because you are doing different

movements through the body is the mother Center whatever you do with this it will change your psychology also I have a friend a very close friend actually uh very spiritually inclined in certain ways um and he had a moment I think about three or four years ago he mentions it was his one moment he was dancing and suddenly he either decided to or it spontaneously he lost control of his body and since then he can like he spontaneously gets into a dance which is very weird to look at it does not look like any dance

anywhere in the world but it is so natural and flowy that there is a Grace to it that you cannot ignore I have seen people walk across Halls to say how are you doing this and he doesn't truly understand and he calls it his flow he says this is my flow and it unlocked one day in Tantra they call it mahamudra he has somehow tapped into the cosmic movement within he's very effortless in his way of being as well because it's moving effortlessly and if you allow that's the whole point of Kini and dancing a

point will come when you li amazing things are coming out of you not only that you will start to Amazing Ideas also coming out of box because you are now in beat with the present which is constantly expanding and changing otherwise we are living a life in beat with our past we want to repeat it right this is fresh and new and in dancing you connect with the if you really totally dance don't hold back first your mind will get released then emotions will get released and the third step Cosmic will take over H and

there's a fear involved there that's why people are afraid to go there what is a fear fear is of losing control man every losing control not your mind your mind has been expressed through dance you cannot go crazy with dancing you can go crazy with doing sitting meditation and some technique because unexpressed energy will explode in your pressure cooker MH but in expression the in spirituality or in any relation any which can give you beyond experience we control because you can lose control you your mind will say I cannot control this it just comes and

flows through me and mind wants to control it make it a commodity to use right make it a box to I can identify this right and that's what surrender means I leave it to you this is the actual experience it gives you a choice here I am can you let go you know I often joke with him I say you are he's he's a male friend of mine I say you're almost like a woman and it's a joke between us but what I'm really trying to say is you're very tabbed into your female because you

flow you surrender like life does not inhibit him in the same way it inhibits me you know I'm like why you upset I have to meet this guy bring I will make sure he watches this podcast because I know he will connect with your message when I heard of you saying that you you must dance without being interrupted by your mind I was reminded of him the third step you say sit silently because then will move up don't move at all because this is creating a blank page of the body because you see we always

moving always doing something so your sh is always extrovert engaged but when you become absolute still like a rock now energy has nowhere to go it starts to move in and open other channels you have activated danced now it will go into deeper channels so it is like kind of going into your roots inside and it will activate your wisdom aspect your heart aspect and then I lay down you lie down for 15 minutes you bring it to the back neutral because if you keep it here and get up and walk then this energy will

be in imbalance so it's a complete circle you start with oh sing your song and come back to home and when I'm sitting I should I sit with my spine there is a or you can keep standing also but still but don't move don't move because there you are allowing your SH now to move in sure people no that sh that K and whatever is energy right at that moment huh your mind is not allowing it you know this is one of my basic techniques if you can learn to practice to sit still every 15

minutes every day 15 minutes absolute like rock you will experience your body in a absolutely new way you'll feel such a power and after sitting half an hour absolutely still you will notice your movement as a charisma because your energy gathered now whatever you do it has a power very interesting have you seen ooso entering the Buddha Hall yeah that Charisma is gathered energy it's energy moving we are leaking we are flagging behind the things but once you in martial arts also this happen when you're sitting still and Gathering energy then your movement is so

powerful you're gathered energy and that gathered energy brings Prosperity brings love bring new ideas bring wisdom we are thinking intellectual knowledge will do that that is a fallacy that is a male controlled as you said your friend becomes feminine he's in the hand of Durga now it he has to allow it it's a very interesting transition because I've seen him before this happened and he was like any of us very regular after that everything from the way he keeps his hair to the way he dresses to the way he behaves completely changed into a very

feminine domain right he he's blessed man he's blessed in some ways I've always thought so you see spiritual you cannot categorize you see it is always unique to each individual it takes years to recognize that Enlightenment has happened because it's none of the things yeah yeah it's not extraordinary in any way it is you have become you will not even know you have changed right you know so that's how it works and this is the goal man for example there was Russian dancer he died crazy at young age you know he was a ballet dancer

ninski he would dance he would take a jump humanly impossible not only that he would come down slow and those Russian Catholic mind or whatever they thought devil takes over and he was also living in turmoil and he died young in India he would be worshipped Guru right Han right that's the truth you lose gravity when you are in absolute state of energy and joy gravity stop working on you you are now pure energy floating how you think Hanuman took flight yeah yeah right because no more gravity pulling you desire and everything is your gravity

some monks rise because your energy is now powerful Grace is pulling you up so there is a whole tantri matter of mahamudra in which you stand and allow your body to make forms and then there is a other methods for it is simple point is a point comes in this movement like in taii Masters just stand and allow their body to move this is allowing the cosmic movement to flow through you we always translate the cosmic energy into emotional or mental energy we never keep it Primal as it wants to flow that is the pure

power and pure genius in us and that is out of society no Society can control Fair um there's a question I want to ask you I'm not sure if we will end up keeping this in the Final Cut or not but I think it's a safe place to ask this question there's a controversial side to spirituality that has to do with substance you mentioned LSD and IAS earlier I'm sure you're a breast um what do you have to say about the Richard Albert method which he later became ramdas he later found meditation and such but

before that he was experimenting with LSD in the '70s right um a lot of people speak about mushrooms and that becoming an access point into realizing the nonuel what is your opinion on this kind of stuff you see they can give you a glimpse and you if you are using then keep it there don't make it a habit sure because sometimes when you start on spirituality you have no idea what you're going into if Guru is not around so sometimes to have substance used it can give you some picture okay it does exist something is

there there which is beyond me that can be good inspiration but it shouldn't become your dependence because what you are doing with drugs because I have to mention this because for many people to listen also whenever you are taking any drugs your windows are open many kind of energies and Spirits make Place into your body I have seen so many guys who are smoking half of them I know are possessed by different energies because they it's like having sex with too many people you're sitting with too many people smoking joints your system becomes very open

so many energies start to live through you you start to live other energies karmas through your body then it's not you want to smoke they want you to smoke so that you can feed with your Pana to their formations you understand what I'm saying roughly but yes I can make a sense and many people go crazy because your whole personality changes because you are trespassing you understand with drug abuse you are trespassing into a territory where in h in in San we go there with reverence that Davi I want to come please allow me here

you popping in a pill or a smoking a joint you're entering there Uninvited right so there around us there are many kind of energies present if you are not in the right company in devotion for example they say hang out with devotes only other people will infect your mind and everybody's infecting our mind and what to say about opening your mind open any kind of energy will start to reside into you and it takes 9 months to one year to clear that impact only then you oh my God I am still the same something in

you has come to a pause and it starts to live other people's energies so this is the danger around it that's why in India when Babas do they do a Puja of a plant they bow down to the plant and they talk to the plant and they evolve the consciousness of the plant they say that you will enter us and you will evolve through us then a special ceremony and chanting then they smoke but now you're sitting with every kind of idiot and you know up mind and you're smoking with them so your psyches mix

you become a crowd of energies and that's what uh possession is or ghost riding you somebody's else's intent Dead or Alive starts to ride your system this danger nobody talks about and many addicts they are not addicted because of the body they are addicted because of energy residing into them won't let them let go say more about that for example who are you you are just thoughts right sure if you do not know a center which is not a thought you will get you are constantly being possessed by internet by this car by that car

right that is a normal accepted level of possession so when you for example take a drug some energy enters you you may not take it again but that energy that ghost into you it is living its karmic patterns through your body system so it will force you to have it again you will feel this longing I want to have it man it's not you wanting it that energy in you want to have it you understand what I'm saying so you were sitting quietly and suddenly you saw an ad which is you have to have this

now you want to have it right it's possession it's possession so when you have that kind of mind and you're smoking many kind of Darker energies which we have many names andur rakas jaini dakini many levels of energy according to your makeup that kind of energies you will attract for example you can end up becoming feeling very sexual also you may want to smoke again and again because that energy inside you they need a Prana to live by so they found you they will use your Prana to replay their dream that's what ghost is who

is in a loop in a desires Loop and he's going on he's looking for similar bodies to enter where he can play his desire out right right right right right so that's why these things you have to be very careful when you take it's very dangerous I'm not talking only the moral ethical issues only on the level of spiritual level you become crowded with many other entities inside you and it take years to clear them they keep on controlling your life very interesting it doesn't come cheap this is a perspective I've never heard I mean

you generally hear about the social or for that matter moral dangers associated with or even Medical but even medical can't do if they don't treat this aspect as well that chant mantras and cleanse your system only then you'll be able to let go of the addiction mantras help letting go of the addiction because you're creating a new Fresh pric energy where it starts to burn the Lanka of the aous inside you it's a past right and only way to burn the past is bring the present light Hanuman ram ram ram or anything any present vibration

will burn the old formations I think uh at a certain point either when you in Delhi or I'm here back again I want to definitely talk to you about the many metaphors in the Hindu mythological ethos because I think that's a conversation itself that is one thing we were planning to do it also me and J and I think it'll be good idea you also come sure or you can do separately sure because I want to talk about these various what Kali means what Ganesha means what all these energies means in a contemporary psychological understandable

sense M exactly not some mythology out there and you can't relate not with the separate as the included for example Kali is electric current of the cosmos with negative positive and we are apps that's why Kali is the great mother understand we have made one with tongue it's just they're implying something she's standing on shiva's chest means this is a dreaming state of Shiva is dreaming Khali huh that's why she he's lying down eyes closed she her right foot is on his chest that's the dream world manifestation world you know 52 heads means letters 52

letters of Sanskrit her tongue out means she's all there it represents the second chakra for example so it's pure sensuality when you're feeling sensual or sexual you're experiencing your electric being you're experiencing the Khali interesting so more you go into Kali you're entering forgetting the computer and the fridge you're entering that which is running the system huh and once you get there you are into a master code of the cosmos that's what ramak Krishna was H he said to somebody which I mentioned in previous interview that he said that I love Krishna and Ram he

said yes Kali took that form once point is that Primal force is Vishnu is Shiva is everything it takes every form but in itself it's mystery so that Kali is the scary also because beyond your morality Duality it's just one force one electric Cosmos vibrating wow and that is a state of bliss wow once you connect there then small PL small electric CRTs shocks you will it's a joke right right right what is each addiction little electric shock right right right that's the point that's why spirituality freeze you not the typical spirituality connecting with the

live electric current of life right now right that's what I am sharing and trying to make people understand uh I also in my research did not come across much about your history and I'm curious what did you read or what did you experience that got you here because even if we look at just the symbolic interpretation of all these mythological sort of beings I don't know any book that will tell me that Kali is this ever-flowing Cosmic current you are saying it is that thought original did you read it did you discover it what happened

it's all there H if you're artistic enough and scientific enough and have been around in life enough when I came to rishikes I didn't have much idea about all but when I started to meditate here insights started to happen here gangai on the side of gangai when you meditate really consistently and doing some process you'll start to have insights because Common Sense man what I'm saying is not at all my it's common sense so all coded knowledge is there in mantras in mythologies but we do not know how to translate them into the psychological sense

agreed G Ganesha gum the root of the tongue is touching when you say gum right hands is related with muladhara ra is connected with the solar plexus ra is tip of the tongue it's a fire ra G Earth Kali total e seventh chakra so this you have to have kind of very interesting because these are also kind of Secrets also once you know this then you know that you know for example Hanuman is The Prana your breath is the Hanuman if you drop all the mythology and stories monkey God and all that what is why

present is ramdut this movement is saying there is a ram that's why we are moving that's what ramdut is essentially Hanuman and RAM are not two separate things the movement of ram hanu ram is Hanuman huh huh so this is Ram moving as Satya as prakar right that means the Hanuman huh very interesting I think this deserves a more detailed conversation but again this insight you're saying happened because you sat next to the ganga and meditated but of course I had a history then I because with those show also I studied read a lot of

philosophies Arts Sciences then once you are into right kind of environment all information starts to First looked like chaos then they start to become a mandala around you then you see okay it's all connected om first sound out of that for example if you do om you will become more like a monk because there's no tongue engaged So when you say Ram is a Vash of Mantra means Earth and the sky om has no no tongue no energy so you'll become more vagi but with ram you will stay in the middle so out of these

two movement came all the mantras what does it mean ra is the minimal movement of First Union so that's why the when Parvati asked that we cannot speak vishnu's thousand names so Shiva says you can just chant Ram is like chanting thousand names what means thousand names means this present movement chant this Ram this is everything how you think this Ram is happening whole Cosmos is engaged to make me speak this Ram so who is this which is saying ram ram only know I am Just an Illusion in between the day your shha happens to

this Ram which is moving you're are Hanuman you're now working at the order of the Now command of the now and out of this one movement all the complex movement of mantras so for example if you chant Ram it will guide you to which Mantra you need according to your system you will just come across it that's so interesting because this is Guru working with you now the guru the capital T capital G Guru the guru which is running the cosmos it knows exactly what you need but you have to tune with the now's music

it comes like a song not a logic M it comes in poetry not even poetry it comes as a Dun A Melody comes you just somehow want to flow there and that's that's why my singing helped I learned classical I learned painting martial arts I studied various SRAM stams then each word you see why they are saying this then you think about it a then you understand other things you know for example this is wisdom mudra water fire is the experience water is where the outside frequencies enter your blood this is the wisdom mudra means

no intellect direct experiencing is wisdom right so this is the clues are there MH and so this and you don't find okay tell me how you conceptualize ganga for that matter in this case because one could say this is no longer the ganga of several hundred years ago even several 10 years ago the modern situation of rishik is not that auspicious history that we thought it was right does that not like is the present reality not an interference in the inside that arrives from meditating next to the ganga for example no vibration dies in The

Cosmos everything continues so maybe this gangai G it may be its frequency you can't feel because of the crowd because of the rituals but the why ganga is powerful millions of people became enlightened on its banks they did meditations and practices so the whole gangaji Banks from himala till down is charged if you go in a right frequency you will catch that frequency but if you go to do a ritual and some you know loudspeaker thing it won't work you have to be there spend time there be quiet there you will notice you'll start to

notice many weird events happen but beautiful ones when you sit by gangaji not go for rafting yeah come on connecting with the animal connecting with the animal I call it connecting with the by the gangaji and sometimes scary sometimes beautiful but things happen right it sends you messages also there is a I think there's a very unique thing happening right now um and I'll put it very simply I think we are having the first or the second generation that is born in the screen world the world is now occupied by these rectangular objects of existential

dread and it's very different because you see when prri evolved into purush there was a friction and we discussed that friction nature nurture even up until now and because purush existed and the ability to imagine existed there was a dissonance between my lived experience as you saying the present moment RAM and this imagined and therefore there was this constant conflict that many spiritual teachers and Masters and gurus have tried to resolve through many methods of meditation and philosophies I think what is happening now is that between the X and the y- axis which is real

life and imaginary life there's a third which is the virtual life and I feel like what that is doing the way that is sucking Prana the speed at which it is distorting Prana out of our Lives is unprecedented yes unprecedented and it's you know even 15 years ago when I was in school it was a very trivial problem that parents would tell their kids listen beta why are you spending all your time on your laptop now my parents are spending all their time scrolling reels it is the most widespread disease we have in my view

in the spiritual world the most widespread it is everybody without exception I think the the biggest problem with going to jail or sitting in a flight is the common experience of not having a screen right and it's that exactly that bad and so I was just discussing also that we are introducing a z axis that is complicating everything by a factor of three not by by a multiple of three and in that I don't know what it looks like now that I contemplate having kids now that my siblings are having kids the number one concern

is how do we deal with this green epidemic because the virtual life runs faster than even the imaginary life in some cases right you can have had sex a million times in the virtual world through pornography yeah but you've never had it in real life and your imagination is all borrowed from the virtual life so it's not even organic imagination in that case and so I wonder how does one think about this it is you know worst of all addictions is one addiction which very rarely talked about is addiction of thought because when there is

a thought you exist as a thinker when there is no thought no story no drama you don't exist Krishna Muti said thinker is the thought there are two separate phenomenon so when I'm looking at a video on YouTube or anything I am existing because of the drama mhm the one who is enjoying but when you put it off you stop to exist right and that is scary huh till you not used to not exist just be quiet and different kind of presence exists you know that is one thing and I think the big blow which

is going to come this is my creative imagination sure of kki it will shut down the computers imagine what a swad will happen then self-examination people will go through suddenly you have nothing to project your mind on right and you're left with yourself right people panic worse than death when their phone is lost yeah doctor tell you have cancer you'll die in 6 months he'll say where's my phone I need to tweet about it right right right so you see that's that is how bad it is because continuation which gives to a drama to Your

Ego that is what it is based on mhm so till you do not taste your original Prana feel of Russ of you you will be needing this it is a kind of offshoot of our culture mhm it's a microcosm within yes artificial intelligence also is a microcos mind aspect of our fears it will overtake us as if you are not overtaken by your mind already you saying oh artificial intelligence will take us over no no no we are taken over anyway you know you are a slave of your mind already yeah now your mind Master

Slave right whom you are slave to you so that's that's how it works so this is kind of extreme of you know like our Kaluga this is exactly what defines Kaluga everybody Kaluga means living into a thought as reality everybody suffering is that nobody suffers from life people suffer from their own thoughts about life once this becomes clear the net of Maya cancels youe it's all me you know why some people die because of Enlightenment when you realize that it was always me making stories telling myself nobody ever hurt me nobody did anything there's no

birth no it's all me that is Cavalia coming realizing that the I am the projection light in the projection room there is nothing going on on the screen that is where you realize that you are giving energy to a thought thought that's why it is becoming real yeah right right right right right I am giving energy to the internet that's why it becomes my world you can withdraw any time and deal with the addiction withdrawals yes yeah that suffering if you go through intentionally then you don't need any other sad whole sad is makes you

go through suffering intentionally right you can use that addiction as a method of Liberation right because when you start giving it up and the suffering is f but be ready you will go through some deep yeah deep C you will see oh I'm nothing I need something it will burn you inside and if you can stay with that burning you will notice that that burning what tapa means everybody wants to change but nobody's willing to burn any change comes through burning what suffering does to you it starts to burn you that's why we call it

suffering it's changing you when you really go through a suffering deeply you will see after one week you are different different person with fresh like a child you feel ready for life why because it took away your garbage it burns your garbage all your arrogance disappeared you realiz with this pain I was like a mouse you lose your ego you become humble again you become Pure Energy again and that is the state of B what we call Shiva the innocent one like a if you want to experience Shiva look at Children's eyes that is Shiva

looking right back at you you you don't need to find Shiva you know just look around right it's looking back at you um I have only two more questions uh one of them is what are you doing here and where can someone find you if they had to from this conversation best way to connect is on the telegram and uh please do not uh let it known that where I am because I'm keeping it kind of private right because unnecessary people comes so what I'm doing here is he kind of more like um creating a

space here where I am asking people to do creativity meditation being in Jungle learning a new organic lifestyle which is neither material or spiritual it's like embracing your energy and letting it express that's what we need because mostly people go into spirituality to escape something we go into any kind of pleasure to escape something here it is more about becoming creative and more participating with life it's a mixture of devotion in a contemporary sense not in a traditional H harma H har Krishna like uh brand kind of bti no for me bti is totally engaging

with what you're doing that's the greatest worship you can do sure and other is using your meditation as well using your creativity as well so you can be prosperous on the physical level healthy on emotional level and clear on the Mind level that is a u m that's what om means Body Energy mind one organic unit okay fair so telegram is the best way to sort of get in touch and there are YouTube videos and everything and then I don't know where I am myself so it works out that I cannot tell anybody there are

uh my last question and it's generally sort of an epilogue but is there any question or suggestion you have for me for you yes I think you're doing a great work because you are bringing out uh what only one thing which I feel with this podcast that not yours in general they're talking too high funder stuff 10 mahavidyas and this and that give Clues to normal humans if they listen to a podcast they have something to use and take home with it cuz that is where you can benefit you know otherwise I see many many

podcasts there some great Baba is talking about great Powers talk something practical and real which I feel you know this is this was my concern also when I asked J to connect with you that let's talk something which is more so I'm happy how it happened I'm glad because it gives you some clarity I need some clarity I do not want to know what are the D MAV vidas what I will do with them and who will tell me the process right these are making deals with life you know whereas you tell me how to

live this life how I can use my tools rightly I'm teaching people here how to use their five tools which are there of wisdom Body Energy mind dialogue and the self we try to be very careful of that because if entertainment is a distraction from the self spiritual entertainment is the Last Frontier it's the most complicated Frontier that's when you can get into all this mumbo jumbo philosophical stuff which you know it works as bait it gets you interested it gets you flowing words are very they're like the alcohol that gets right I call it

spiritual pornography right right I call it spiritual entertainment but pornography is much more radical um and it's very complicated because then you are filled with all these thoughts that interrupt the basic flow of the process of knowing yourself right you've tokenized the act of understanding and made it into well possible Commodities tradable ideas right and biggest hindrance which I have experienced personally also the ideas versus is the actual experience right when actual happens you don't recognize and it doesn't fit with your idea so you and not only that when you experience something now it has

become your idea now you want it to repeat but each time when it happens it is so unique your mind is Left Behind so that is the one of the biggest danger like Oso said that most person most uh person who is most in the darkness is Pandit who have lots of knowledge but no actual experience right you see sweet taste is something else than the word sweet right if you can remember this then you will know that actual experience of spiritual is very different from the word from the word yes but we live into

the we want to experience words through spirituality right but it will not happen it will cancel all your words words are the ultimate condoms when it comes to the experience yes exactly no baby's born no baby's born no creation happened and you never feel never feel you're always guarded by the word right um and I don't know when I thought of this but I think it's very true words are condoms in that way condom yeah well thank you so much for your time this has been incredible thank me too