Joe Rogan Experience #2187 - Adam Sandler

Joe Rogan podcast check it out The Joe Rogan Experience Train by day Joe Rogan podcast by night all day hello Hey Joe good to see you buddy I'm so happy to be here buddy thanks for I'm happy to have you here I I I was excited to see you we know each other a long time and uh and um I I was excited to come to Austin of course we were just talking about how zookeeper was 14 years go I that's shocking how how I I know I hate that [ __ ] flies by man

it's terrible it's terrible it's that that was a fun time though that KJ was so excited that was very fun that was very fun I you and KJ with sussy yeah right that's how you guys that's oh you guys I've known Kevin for 30 something years known him forever you it's funny because even your stand up I watched your stand up the other night you guys remind me of each other there's something something you you take your time on stage you set it up you say your [ __ ] and you live in it like

it's it's it's it's it's not the same but that you guys you can tell you guys are buddies there's something about it that's that's feel like a everybody feels like I [ __ ] I would hang out with that guy it's cool but but uh did you and KJ start standup together or well we didn't start together exactly I started in Boston he started in New York but I met him when I was like I guess two years in about two years in where where did you guys meet in New York at the strip or

something I think we met at East Side East Side I don't think I did that that's downtown no East Side comedy club was on uh Long Island oh oh oh yeah that I used to go there that was in like hunt great that was a great club that was Richie manini's place that's right that's manini but now that's a funny bastard yeah he's a funny dude I I I first one of the first comedy clubs I watched I think I saw Carol leafer at the East Side Comedy Club my sister lived in Huntington and and

uh she said do you want to go see a it wasn't my first but it was like first couple she said do you want to see a comedian at there's a club around here I said yeah yeah and I sat in the back I I think it I think I might have been like 15 or something 16 and I and I saw uh Carol leafer kill for like an hour I think that was exciting that that club was rocking yeah it's gone though right just are there good clubs on Long Island now like what's that

oh well sheez man I don't know what's happen there was always Governors that always existed yes I remember there was a few bars that were comedy clubs that I used to do there I just don't remember the names right now but back in the day when I was young I would go out to the island Governor I don't think I got on there much maybe a couple times when I was young that was kind of a rocking Club oh yeah steo wasn't Ste you remember steo no I know steo the jackassy jackass know there was

another guy sto was a funny comic and uh John Malone you remember M yeah I remember he was kind of huge out there he used to be a cop right I think so yeah I think so he was I remember Mal roon was by far him and Kevin meany were the two guys you didn't want to go after I remember [ __ ] would just destroy a room he was so loose and would dominate the room and and then they bring you up and you're like oh goodness gracious I saw Kevin meanie once at catch

rising star in in Cambridge MH and it was Insanity it was when he was at his Peak absolute Peak I wasn't even thinking about doing comedy then I was just a comedy fan and I went with a friend of mine from high school I think we were both like 18 and we went we saw him just [ __ ] destroy for an hour to the point where I got out of there it was like I had an ab workout I was in pain yes yes I was like Jesus Christ was he was so in the

groove like everything he did was funny I I man and I've never in my life killed this hard as Kevin M I mean there's nobody can kill that I remember me and rock would be on the side at catch a rising star watching me meanie do whatever he did and you were just like yeah I don't think I can get laughs that loud it [ __ ] blew out the room on fire it was on fire but it was it was weird it's like it didn't sustain like he later in his career for whatever reason

it just the whatever he had for those few years like in the 80s and the early 90s it didn't keep going for some strange reason he kept doing standup but something was missing I don't know what it was did he he he I know he killed on The Tonight Show with Carson I'm I'm sure he and destroyed and did all I I don't know what he wanted I don't know what what the next thing he wanted I just remember maybe didn't he do a TV show Uncle Buck yeah but that was not that good you

know that was the John Candy movie that they turned into a television show and I I think you know there was always the thing that he was in the closet and then he came out of the closet and then it was kind of like right before he died I'll tell you I did I I did a Boston Club comedy connection when I was 17 I ate it I came off State I mean I bombed him my dad was there watching it was a terrible feeling and uh and um even the uh MC who I don't

remember when I came off stage after eating it I'm walking you know that awful feeling of walking through the crowd and they're all looking at you like Jesus dude and and then the [ __ ] MC stopped me he goes Adam Adam I turn around you know with your head spinning and [ __ ] I go you know I look at the guy he goes Class Clown I go I nod my head like yeah yes he goes maybe stick with that place laughing there I go okay you know I [ __ ] walked off and

then I went into the dressing room because I was wanted to hide and meanie meanie you funny kid blah blah blah said some nice [ __ ] to me I always remembered oh that Kevin me [ __ ] good dude man he he was Lifting me up yeah some encouragement from a a real comedian when you're just starting out can go all long way cuz it's so in the beginning it's so shaky you don't know if it's going to work out like what am I oh you feel you go home at night head spinning what

am I doing to myself why am I doing this yes yes it's [ __ ] insane it truly is the sickest feeling and then there's the days or nights you go on stage and your [ __ ] you're not doing good the CRA you're eating it but you have a confidence and you're like I'm pretty good at this even though I'm [ __ ] eating it right I I feel pretty good right now you feel like this is I'm GNA figure this out right right exactly I'm going to figure it out yeah your movies kept

my family saying through the beginning of the pandemic we went on an Adam Sandler run where like we watched basically every we the only one we didn't watch is Little Nikki we didn't for whatever reason we never got to that one because we we watched other ones like two or we I watched the Zohan I might have just seen the Zohan 20 times I [ __ ] love that movie thank yeah yeah such a funny movie why didn't you ever do a second one that's [ __ ] always talked about it I mean dude the

the it's a no-brainer be a little tough right now right we'd have to wait a minute put that one on the shelf for a little bit we had to put that one on the Shelf a bunch of times when we were about to do it cuz [ __ ] would go on we'd be like maybe it's a tough time to do it right now and then we just we got it we did it we we the intention was good to try to say let's try to get some peace out there uh but um and then

another part of it is I'll never [ __ ] be in that shape again I I don't think I could ever do that and then uh get hire a trainer get a i but I can't stick with it buddy you are doing great how the [ __ ] are you eating so good and hitting it so hard I I'm like you know I used to [ __ ] take working out so serious when I was in maybe up to like 25 26 and now I can't [ __ ] do it I I play hoop then

I eat and I every even while every time I'm eating I'm going what are you doing man you don't need to do this I can't stop just got a little bit of thickness all over yeah it's something that just you you have to stay on the horse you can't back off at all if you back especially as you get older you back off at all you just start what is this you start feeling this thing my God I know I have a new I know Budd this episode is brought to you by zip recruiter being

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free again that's zip recruiter com/ Rogan zip recruiter the smartest way to hire well you [ __ ] walk in now and I go Jesus that'd be fun to look like that I always [ __ ] wanted to be I had I had no [ __ ] when I was 18 to 203 I hit it so hard I never looked like you I never was jacked you look good during the Zohan pretty good really good pretty [ __ ] good for me that was that was as good as I can get and I had I

naturally had a little something going on when I was real like the the College Years but that now it's [ __ ] rough my kids go what my daughter one daughter say he's always saying dad get the trainer from the Zohan why would you ever give that up why would you want why did you stop I was like ah it's a lot of work yeah but didn't you like the way you felt yeah yeah well you should do that get that feeling back and stuff like that but I just can't jump in there well she

sounds like a good coach she's good yeah she's she's saying the right saying the right say the right stuff she's right everything she says she's I I have a a thought where I I it's I don't promise or I go let me think about that that's a good idea the whole thing is just not overdoing it in the beginning starting slow where it's maintainable and then slowly build up that's the key so you give yourself new goals what when well I never stop but I mean when you get started yeah and the be the thing

is like people try to go too hard like oh my God I'm out of shape I'm going to run [ __ ] 10 miles and I'm going to lift weights and I'm going do then you're too tired and then you're so [ __ ] sore in the morning like I can't keep this up the whole key is just give your body enough where it's it's pushing it but it's not exhausted you're not breaking your body down you're just strengthening it slowly you got to get sick the same way or you got to get better the

same way you got sick right you got sick over time over time eating food [ __ ] up and then you got to get better that way over time slowly start to morph your body back into a good good condition that's good everybody tries to go too hard they try to go too CRA they do something unsustainable exit you get excited to get it going again and then and then you get injured you break yourself down you hurt your knees or hurt your back it's it's too much terar or something yeah the key is just

not do too much just do enough and just cut back on you say I'm G to only have two cheat days a week two days a week I'm going to eat whatever the [ __ ] I want five days a week I'm G to eat clean and then break it down to six days a week I'm going to eat clean one day a week I'm going to [ __ ] off yeah yeah yeah if you could go one day week just [ __ ] off you can get a lot done that's amazing and the [

__ ] off day is from start to finish you can do whatever you want [ __ ] you want one day that's and then the other days the the good days what what do you like do you eat a breakfast and all that [ __ ] yeah sure yeah yeah I I skipped breakfast lately that's my new move the last year like intermittent fasting I guess so but I'm supposed to [ __ ] you know lock in on eight hours or six hours and I always say I do one to nine say then around [

__ ] 10 I go let me have some grapes and then I go I think I'm not supposed to have grapes and then I go a few grapes and then it opens up to some other [ __ ] grapes aren't the problem The Grapes lead to some bad [ __ ] grapes lead to waffles [ __ ] Skinny Cow this new that's the new thing Skinny Cow ice cream sandwiches in the house started a little problem for me what are Skinny Cow they're supposed to be a little better for you cuz the calories aren't awful

I think it's like 130 so I go 130 usually they [ __ ] like 3:30 so then I eat two two of them I go still under that 3:30 then I go if I have a third it's still in the threes so I eat a third and then I [ __ ] go I got to stop man yeah if you want you really want to be serious about think just hire somebody you got money I got the best guy the guy who did me for the Zohan and he's I love him it's just I see

him and I love him so much that I go let's keep this a friendship let's keep I don't want to I play so much basketball though that keeps me okay it doesn't want me to take my I don't want to take my shirt off but I don't how often do you play maybe four or five a week where I I get out there and run great that's pretty good that's very good that's very that's a key if you could do something that you really enjoy doing yes you know if you something that keeps you active

that you enjoy that that makes it so much easier cuz you're playing a game so you're getting fit but you're in the middle of a game that you don't you don't hate that at all that is the best I think that's the only thing I got that you you you you fight that that's [ __ ] fun right martial arts are fun yeah martial arts are fun K KJ always fought I never even thought one time KJ we left a hotel and he I think he just came from fighting with one of the guys who

were teaching him some [ __ ] and he uh was so riled up from it put me in some [ __ ] crazy hold out of nowhere we were walk we were going to dinner all a sudden he came at me I was like holy [ __ ] and he [ __ ] grabbed me Twisted me around had me in some weird hold I oh okay he's just letting me know he can destroy me but uh but I remember just going yeah that's that's [ __ ] something I should get into man but I just

can't I'm not flexible at all you you're very flexible yeah that helps well I started stretching before I hit puberty that's the big thing or during puberty really so it's like while your body's thickening you know you're you're stretching that makes a giant difference never I by the way KJ with being flexible is very odd he can put the hands on he's [ __ ] weirdly he's a very athletic guy he just eats like a [ __ ] Army he does get excited he I Sometimes When We Were Young I'd say tell me your McDonald's

order and he'd be like okay three4 Pounders three Big M whatever the [ __ ] it was hard it was his McDonald order is insane Kevin go hard but like he also when he was on the podcast told me fasted once for how many days you fast for 60 something or yeah some insane amount of it was like 40 days or something crazy yeah yeah Mania something insane and then I think he ate a a sandwich and it really hurt hurt hurt sure your stomach's probably like what the [ __ ] is going on my

God he's a mad man with that fasting yeah well he's a he's an intense dude you know he's just intense with eating too but if you ever watch him hit the MS every watch him hit pads he can [ __ ] strike yes I know kind of shocking people that don't know him you see him crack mths and you're like Jesus Christ holy [ __ ] he is he's [ __ ] legit and he and he can roll around good too oh yeah when he was getting ready for here comes the boom yeah like you

know when he was training with Mark de grat I was like God damn dude he was cracking those PS I know I know he did let me know in that one thing he did to me that you know who did that to me too Farley Farley we were in the hallway on at Saturday Night Live out of nowhere oh no we were were at a [ __ ] hotel and he came at me real fast put me grabbed me put me in some [ __ ] pulled hard I felt every part of my body cracked

and then uh then Farley laughed and just like with Kevin they kind of looked at you like I could [ __ ] you up if if I wanted to prob was a big dude too he was a big boy he was like maybe 5'8 five not he was like 5'8 wide too he was wide yeah [ __ ] athlete though moved nice well when he moved around on stage you know when he moved around SNL he [ __ ] that was part of the thing was he was so explosive like part of the funny in

him was this [ __ ] insane when he he had this explosion inside of him they could get out I only met him once you did meet him yeah I met him on the set of news radio and he was in the middle the throws of addiction so he was he was gray like wet cardboard it was weird it was weird being around him he just looked sweaty like hey how you doing I was like hey what's up was there to see Phil or he was there to see Andy Dick and Andy Dick were hanging

out and I think they were both off the rails they were having fun they're having a good time yeah yeah yeah yeah [ __ ] uh that sucks I hate it well he was yeah that's horrible he that was a good time of life though huh that news radio [ __ ] oh yeah that was a lot of fun it was spade and and uh and and Phil and no Spade wasn't on that Spade was on that other show just shoot me he was a but I thought he did a couple of couple I think

he did yeah he definitely did but you know a lot of people people did you know yeah yeah a lot of people did was that your first big uh that was the first big thing I did a small sitcom that nobody watched before that called Hardball Hardball what what was it about it was a baseball show on Fox last like five or six episodes what were you on that I was a baseball player oh that did you play baseball I did in high school oh yeah a little bit until I started doing martial arts Ball

Sports gotcha gotta that's cool man I want me to tell you my martial arts uh it's not that big of a deal but I grew up in Manchester New Hampshire and uh a lot of guys were tough you know fought and [ __ ] fights would happen and then I had the idea I drove by downtown I saw this guy I can't remember his name Mick something and I [ __ ] saw kickboxing I was like let me take kickboxing just in case I can [ __ ] somebody up because I that'd be fun to

have that secret weapon of kickboxing and you know all of a sudden be able to kick someone in the face that'd be great and so I talked my buddy into it or maybe he talked me into it but I think anyways we both go and [ __ ] like 15 guys in there from school all all already doing it already advanced and I was like all this did was make me realize these guys can kick the [ __ ] out of me I thought guys I could take I was going oh [ __ ] that

guy can crush me too I had no idea and but I would I I'm never flexible so I I just I think I quit after like four or five sessions flexibility is something that everybody can gain it's just you just have to go through the process flexibility is not something like you know there's like certain amount of explosiveness and athleticism that some people just don't possess and it take a long time to get there but flexibility is something that you just have to work at I've seen very inflexible people become flexible yeah yeah what what

ju just by doing it every day doing it every day and just sticking to a routine you just got to force yourself past the pain you know I'm just nervous it's hamstrings are going to pop this so [ __ ] tight you know what you get you ever see one of those things where you it's like a a strap and you you put your foot into it like pull back like those things are great yeah I know just take a yoga class yeah I know I know go to hot yoga that's a cheat coat it's

a good one gets real hot in there you get a lot looser yeah that's good that's good no my my wife's good at that [ __ ] the hope my whole my daughters do it I just [ __ ] um it hurts my lower back and my hamster so much that I end up just going all right I get up and do a fake water break and just stare at so how was uh working on the special I saw you in Vegas I saw you st very funny man very funny I really enjoyed it I

appreciate it man I I I had uh had a great time making the special I had a great I have a great time on the road I can't believe it you know I [ __ ] quit doing stand up for you know like 20 years or something what made you want to get back uh I think I was doing grown-ups and uh Rock and Spade and Schneider and KJ were always talking about uh next weekend I'm going to Niagara Falls and I'd be like these guys are all [ __ ] having fun on the road

and and I and I and then I think appow was doing a Carnegie haul he was hosting something and he said you want to uh do some standup again and I just go yeah yeah let me do that and I I did it just to make sure that I [ __ ] put together 15 minutes or something that got me back into it and did you just piece it together by doing small sets or did you how did you write I was I was I I think maybe I did a couple of improvs or something

that maybe maybe I went to The Improv a couple times but mostly from doing Letterman I used to do Letterman and do do two segments so I'd [ __ ] sit down with my buddies write jokes and just go out there with jokes and kind of trusted that yeah that's a good joke and I think I started doing that with standup too just going ah this is pretty good let me just do it and then like when did you start booking gigs I did same [ __ ] I called the guy this this this great

guy whose daughter was going to school with mine he would talk about booking acts and [ __ ] I said I I was thinking of doing standup again you want to book me some shows and then he just booked like a 10 City tour for me and I said all right I better [ __ ] put an hour together for this wow so how did what how' you put the hour together did you go to the Improv did you go to the store where'd you go improv a couple times at the store improv uh I

would drive out of town you know the valley uh maybe like the haha that kind of [ __ ] yes yes anybody Flappers exactly flappers flappers good spot to try [ __ ] out yeah um yeah I just did a bunch of maybe I went down to that Comedy and Magic Club is that still yes I did I did sure Beach that's a great Club a good yes exactly except I remember growing up I would always see Leno and uh Joe uh is it Joe not not is it broen what was what was Jimmy broen

Jimmy broen yeah the booker yeah the book but he did stand he did stand up and they were so clean and they would [ __ ] annihilate and I always felt self-conscious in I place for how filthy I was I like these people don't want to see this well the comedy magic club is like the cleanest Club in the country that right right yeah yeah Jimmy Miller used to book it did he I think so okay yeah app used to always go there yeah it's a that's a great little Club that's a good club so

I forced myself to get a good out now I got I mean when I when I was on the road the last tour I was I have so many you know I have so much [ __ ] that steps on other [ __ ] so I can't really do it all right cuz I already said this so that this joke doesn't make any sense now so but I was [ __ ] doing two hour shows and it wasn't that big of a deal wow can you believe that I cuz I remember struggling to do an

hour of my whole standup life I'd be like my God how [ __ ] the crowd's so bored with me now I can't come up with new moves you know but now got enough [ __ ] keep them rocking so how long have you been steady doing standup again now I think like seven years wow must feel good though right to get back into like a real flow like a real headliner flow again go oh yeah I missed this I did miss it I didn't even know the most fun absolutely you you you [ __

] were loose that was you set yourself up to do a live [ __ ] special I don't think I could handle that man my head be spinning way too much man but I had to over prepare you yeah yeah but you you didn't have you didn't have any pauses you just boom boom boom boom boom you how long were you doing that set well I did well you know because I have my own club that helps a lot right so I was doing two shows a night Tuesday Wednesday and Thursday so I was doing

six hours of standup a week which is a lot yeah yeah and then I was doing podcasts and all the other UFC stuff that I do so a lot of work right that got to be too much so then I knocked it down to three sets a week three headliner sets a week and then I would do a bunch of short sets you know that bottom of the barrel show that I told that my friend Brian Simpson host that shows the best it's it's like a premise Factory because you have this whiskey barrel on stage

it's filled with notes from the crowd it's all just different ridiculous ideas for premises and you reach your hand in you pull one out and it's just you know frogs are gay like whatever it is and you just start ranting about and you try to come up with bits and you know every now and then one you you get one or two every set that you write it down you're like this could be something that's amazing and a couple of them made it onto the special that's incredible cuz it's like they it's a premise Factory

absolutely so I had I had a lot of I was getting ready to do a special in um I was going to do one in August of 2020 but then you know obviously in March everything shut down and I didn't do stand up for eight months and it was just and and then I thought about it I was like you know what I just feel like just working on my material now I just feel like just working on standup and not not even thinking about the special yeah yeah yeah that's a great feeling well it's

just I just wanted I was just enjoying working at the club owning the and then there's so many good guys at the club it was just such a [ __ ] hot spot there's so many people there's Shane killis and Mark Norman and Ari shaffir and [ __ ] Brian Simpson and Tony hinchcliff it's just like every night was murderer row and we were all just cooking together that's big and then when Netflix said they want to do a live special with me at first I was like [ __ ] that I don't want to

do that and I said no I told my manager I was like no I I called her on the phone like why I don't want to do that yeah and then I was driving home like why are you scared to do that you [ __ ] [ __ ] and I was like as I was driving home I was like thinking and then I when I got home I called her back I go don't say no yet I go let me think about it wow yeah yeah yeah I've had that feelings yeah and then the

next day I said all right I'm going to do it and she's like you sure I go yeah yeah I'm do it cuz I'm scared of it that's ballsy man I was [ __ ] terrified of it of course I I I I'm I'm I'm scared thinking about doing I would I would never [ __ ] do it but but uh you killed it you killed it you were loose you were rolling you CR well I did that set in order for 3 weeks straight right so I had it locked in for 3 weeks I

didn't do any no which I always [ __ ] around it there was no [ __ ] around no deviation for three weeks you were you were steady exactly I also wrote all the bits out by hand I wrote them all out even the ones I already knew I wrote them all out I wrote all the transitions out I listen to recordings I watch videos big I beat myself into the ground I overprepared right right right so that when I got up there there was no what is next what is next there was no thought

about you didn't have a uh beat cheat somewhere just in case you got lost that's [ __ ] balls I would never be able to do that but I wanted to cheat like a regular show if I had a Regular Show I wouldn't have a cheat sheat oh I [ __ ] I never did when I was young but now I I need [ __ ] a word I need to look somewhere and see the word what do you like put like index cards on the on the stage no on a monitor I just down

and go you know it says like you know just just one word popcorn and then I'm ready because My head goes to space I get Spacey as I got older when I was young I was prepared and b boom and I did my [ __ ] and but I think it helps me kind of relax a little bit just knowing that if I'm lost look down and see a word and go yeah yeah yeah do that next bill Mah brings like one of them conductor [ __ ] things on stage where you know like they

have like where you put the news the music rather he has that and he just has his ideas written out on that so you could just look down at it I get addicted to that a little too much sometimes I you Largo in uh La I go up there the flanny runs that place and he lets me go on and and uh and try [ __ ] out and I have a music stand and I [ __ ] I'll be at work all day working on movies and then like 10 minutes left to go I

go oh yeah yeah yeah let me [ __ ] I got a couple guys in the office who help write jokes with me and I go let me try this this and this and I just put the sheet down go on stage try [ __ ] out out trying new [ __ ] out nothing better than a new joke yeah it's very exciting that's the best if it's working usually does work too cuz you're enthusiastic about it and if you really have thought about it and prepared for it it's like a new thing for you

so it's like exciting new toy yeah yeah yes yes you can't wait to get to that or open with it or whatever the [ __ ] it is when you do movies do do you just come up with a premise first like when you decide to do a film like if you decide to do Happy Gilmore how do you how do you like make your movies how do you start that's I mean that was just lucky premise um Billy Madison I remember I thought oh this could be great a guy who a grown up who

does elementary school again and that's a great idea of being I get to be goofy get to bully these little kids then all of a sudden connect with these kids and have fun growing up again so but part of my head was like well Rodney did back to school already so everyone's going to say I just ripped off back to school Rodney went back to college how the [ __ ] do we kind of do it a step away from that and I call my buddy hurle who I went to college with and he writes

all the movies with me or or he he's just a he's just a great funny man and I I've written almost everything with him and uh if he goes oh that's good then we usually go from there and we try to fill it out after that same thing with Happ Gilmore Wedding Singer Bobby bu all that [ __ ] we were just like came up with a couple of lines of what we thought as a interesting idea and then see if we can fill it out it's so funny because your films get loved by the

public and hated by critics it's so hilarious like you are the Le like whatever the Rotten Tomatoes critic score is for your films means zero it means nothing it's only the audience is what counts that's all we thought about yeah cuz your films are all so fun and so silly and so in my opinion so underappreciated thank you man because like this is one of the things I thought about during Co like we watched it every night we we watched like every film that you made while everything was locked down amazing I love that thank

you thank you yeah my [ __ ] I don't know man we lucked out we we we we worked our asses off like you're working your ass off now like this is this is took it very serious but you caught like a silly Groove that I don't think anybody else has that silly Groove like you do like you caught that Groove with so many movies man yeah yeah yeah we did I mean when I first started Jim Cary was crushing Stiller Mike Myers uh a lot of a lot of Goofy movies were getting made and

I certainly [ __ ] love doing them and I love being on set making those kind of movies I love [ __ ] editing that [ __ ] making thinking about kids laughing I always love that thinking of college kids throwing you know throwing a tape in sitting down watching together we we that that was on our mind when we did it when you first started out did you want to be a comic did you want to be a stand-up comic or did you always think that you wanted to do films I think I wanted

to get into the movies I was [ __ ] nuts cocky as [ __ ] in my own weird way I think a big thing that happened to me was I told my friends in high school I was going to be [ __ ] big and uh I didn't so you had to I had to do it I told the boys I was like going to be [ __ ] great and then when I would check in with them I remember being on payones calling after even eating it at catcher Rising Star I call him

up [ __ ] did good tonight B yeah I go yeah I said what' you say I said this Joe [ __ ] killed meanwhile I [ __ ] ate it every time so you're faking it until you I but I I dug a hole for myself like I'm doing great Robin Williams said I was fantastic Robin Williams I remember one night saw me eat it I was just like oh man I ate it in front of Robin Williams but I changed the story of like yeah he liked that [ __ ] there's something that

could be very valuable about being delusional and being young yes very delusional so stupid man I uh did this uh Thing Once uh do you know Owen Smith who the hell is hilarious hilarious comedian in LA he had this uh he's one of the best Comics alive but he spends a lot of time writing and doing shows unfortunately which I think he should be headlining Arenas he was just at my club a few months back I saw him he's [ __ ] he's a monster the point is Owen had this show that he was doing

for a while where it would you'd find your oldest notebooks uhuh and uh sit down with him and go over your oldest jokes and it was so bad they were so it was like a 1991 joke book yeah yeah yeah I keep them all and I was going through we were reading and I was like it's so bad I had him like built in Heckler lines that I wrote that were terrible and this guy was saying this to me and that like oh that's so funny if I had to go back there and like give

myself advice I would say you got to quit you're terrible at this oh my God don't do this what are you doing man sound atrocious you're not going to make it you don't have it same thing there's no way but I [ __ ] thought I was is [ __ ] phenomenal but I would look at at the crowd not laughing going these [ __ ] are these guys [ __ ] nuts they don't see how great this [ __ ] is but when I it's almost like I was with my [ __ ] giant

afro and my father would be at the table and be like you need a haircut I'd be like what are you talking about man he'd be like you think you look good I'd be like I look great he'd be like you don't just so you know you don't look great I'd be like you're what you are so off on that day it's funny delusional thinking can sometimes you to the like once you develop some skill that delusional is like a little Guardian that like keeps you protected while you actually develop Talent F and that goes

away cuz I I'm more nervous now well I had that [ __ ] fear as a comedian my head would spin when I Colin Quinn he had a a club The Paper Moon in the in the was the Paper Moon around when you when you were growing up it was like uh the Boston Comedy Club small place like that I think that that became Paper Moon became the bosson oh the same Club yes I think it was downstairs that one [ __ ] so [ __ ] Colin liked me he used to get me on

stage I was going to college around there and I all day long would be practicing on the elevator in my dorm I'd be going blah blah saying the [ __ ] right when KH would bring me up my [ __ ] head would spin I'd forget where I was not Mak any sense I would say two jokes and then I'd be like oh my God I don't I don't know what's coming next and I had that going for a while but I still would go home at night and go [ __ ] I'm going to

be so [ __ ] good at this I don't know what it was psycho psycho it's youthful delusion yeah yeah and it's also your central lobe is not fully formed yet you don't even understand the world you're just you're a little meat puppet my God yeah yeah but that's how you make it that's how you make it in kind of everything like you you're delusional you know yes yes if you really believe in yourself that counts for a lot up to a point because there's people that still believe in themselves they've been doing open mics

for 20 years right nobody's stepped in to say hey this is never right right right going to happen you have to have a spark there's got to be a little something in there and then you could build that little something into something special that's right that's right same thing in in sports guys who oh yeah keep going and keep trying out and keep doing something that but some some people break through it it's yeah it's interesting man I definitely had an amazing time as a young youngster I had a couple of people that I locked

in with we were buddies we all had that same thing of like I'm good I'm good even though it wasn't that good yet yeah yeah I came up with Greg Fitz Simmons Greg and I were we're both like confused and wondering if we're ever going to make it and just you know we do a lot of Road gigs together and we were hoping but it the the whole idea was only just to like one day you'd be a professional that was the goal not really have any kind of a career career but just like one

day to make a living telling jokes that was the dream yeah like you couldn't even imagine like almost I would see guys that were actual Pros when I had a bunch of like day jobs doing construction driving limos oh yeah I did everything oh got and so then I would do these nighttime gigs and I'd meet the real pros the guys who just made a living doing comedy I'm like what must that be like yes they saunter in it 9:00 night my God yeah they've been playing golf all day laughing the Kevin knox's and all

those guys yeah yeah and I just like they were like Heroes like you're the you actually made it [ __ ] outside of the system completely all you do is tell jokes and people love you and they come to see you and the same jokes a lot of the guys they were just like that's my ACT I ain't [ __ ] Boston yeah they never did television so those guys had and people wanted to go see those same jokes again which is crazy yes yes like Steve Sweeney did you ever see Sweeney when he was

in his absolute best biggest destruction too yeah oh my God Steve Sweeney in his prime would light up a room in a and with Boston accent and Boston material you couldn't follow him no no no he he was a monster I think he went on the very first night I went on at stitches that was the first place my brother brought me to stitches he was going to be you he got me one of those five minute open mics that was the first place I ever did too stitches yeah wow man how'd you do I

got a couple of Chuckles yeah did it's like enough to where I was like maybe 21 21 yeah yeah I was like maybe maybe something there the second time I got some laughs second time was like less less nervous wow and like I had listened to my I had a little tape recorder that I brought with me I recorded it oh man how about that humiliation of the silence on the record terrible also made me realize like what was wrong like you know just cuz I was studying it like kind of the way I study

martial arts like if you you would watch films of fights and then I would you know go oh there was a little bit of a timing problem there and this I could have done this I could have done that and so with my second time I did stand up I had the the humiliation of listening to the first cassette so I listen to that I was like let me tighten this up and maybe this could be a little better oh my God tightening a little more there but I got some laughs the second time which

was like crazy I was like wow I might be able to do this [ __ ] man both that stitches yeah and then I think I bombed the third time and that was the first real bomb and I was like punch in the face [ __ ] scary yes but every time I bombed I feel like it taught me something and then I would get better [ __ ] I ate it last year last summer I went up to the comic strip and [ __ ] ate it for 10 straight minutes I oh [ __

] I forgot about that forgot about that punch in the face that is a roughy I ran into you at the airport and you were telling me you just did some [ __ ] horrific corporate event I ate it there too oh that was I mean if I listen to the tape I'd say you were okay but oh was humiliating yeah I you had just gotten done with it when I ran into so I was Shell Shocked I remember seeing you and your wife yeah yeah yeah I had that [ __ ] glazed look those

corporate gigs are so Ron White just ate it at one recently he goes I don't know why the [ __ ] I agree to do that they just said no and they said more and I said No and then they came up with a number I was like all right holy [ __ ] buddy same [ __ ] story for me those are death I I don't think I those things are death because the people that are there they're working with all these people so they're all like kind of tight yeah they got [ __

] going on yeah yeah and they're not really thinking about the comedy show they're thinking about this is like a social environment with all the people they're working their way up the corporate ladder and they're concentrating on all their [ __ ] and they're also they can't laugh at anything inappropriate like I saw Mike over there laughing at all those sexist jokes Mike's a real piece of [ __ ] it's true man that's good I I'm I swear to God I felt bad for them I was like Jesus they paid me so much I [

__ ] feel terrible I didn't kill for but but uh it happened yeah hinchcliff just did one recently too said the same thing I'm like that's why I don't do those they it's not do comedy where people come to see comedy and that's it don't get hired for a birthday party get the [ __ ] out of here with that it was the only [ __ ] reason I did it was Paul McCartney did it the year before so they go well they don't do this much I went Paul M well [ __ ] I'm

doing that [ __ ] yeah but Paul McCartney can just play his songs I know man you know and like his songs are great they're Classics he's not going to he's not going to miss he's just going to play the and if they don't don't respond that's on them yeah it's like you [ __ ] nuts you didn't ban on the runch the [ __ ] is wrong with you people I know man that's good yeah you know like musicians they could always just get into their song oh [ __ ] close their eyes they

don't need nothing they don't look around yeah they don't need you we're [ __ ] looking out at everybody that [ __ ] dude's not loving it God damn it I know we rely so much on other people's response but the moments I don't those are the ones I was saying to you Joe and I I've I've eaten it before but still felt I did good because I [ __ ] remained kind of confident and and believing in my [ __ ] still but the ones where I look out I see them hating me and

I go yeah why am I here man this is that's a bad feeling it's a terrible feeling I say bombing on stage is like sucking a thousand dicks in front of your mother but the problem is it's probably worse than that because somewhere out there there's probably a guy who wouldn't mind sucking a thousand dicks in front of his mom you know he'd be like look at me Mom we give you [ __ ] you made me 99 let's go my mother would 100% at the end say you could have done it better yeah you

could have sucked them harder why did you stop on that one man he wanted to explode in your face and you you stop I feel bad you should call him and tell him you'll suck his dickly but uh yeah yeah I'm with you buddy yeah stand up stand Up's the best it's it's a crazy thing and then no one can teach you how to do it either you have to figure it out yourself cuz your way of doing it is different than my way of doing it my way is different than Kevin's way Kevin's way

is different than [ __ ] Seinfeld's way everybody's got a different way of doing it absolutely and nobody can teach you how to do it you can learn some things yes from watching other people you can learn some things from oh man yeah but how about when somebody [ __ ] great watches you and says hey you know what you could say here and gives you a great line you're like oh my God thank you that's huge that what a feeling you just made my okay thing into a [ __ ] one I'm excited to

do oh yeah yeah yeah yeah there's been a couple of bits that I've had that I got a tag from a friend and just like pops it up oh you're like how did I ever do it without that [ __ ] life yeah sometimes like a fresh eye you know that's one of the things that I always admired about how Chris Rock used to do it because Chris Rock would go on stage he'd work his stuff out and then he have a bunch of guys that he would hire to sit in the back of the

room and kind of workshop with them I got I do I do similar stuff I have these young guys who are [ __ ] way funnier at writing than me only cuz I'm [ __ ] tired I'm tired I walk into the office and I'm like I thought of this funny thing last night maybe something there I'll say it to them and they'll go oh yeah and they [ __ ] write something interesting and and we come up with something together eventually well you're used to co collaborating when you do films right yes yes I

always do that always got a bunch of guys that that help me out throughout the whole movie yeah that's such a good process yes because you know one mind is great but a bunch of Minds together in different perspectives people are going to see things from an angle that you're not going to see yes that's exciting same [ __ ] same [ __ ] somebody comes up with a great thing to do in a scene or a line or uh uh maybe you can be doing this at the same time an action whatever the [

__ ] it is I mean me and herle when we write these things we we we think a lot what it's going to look like what what what the what going on and you seene what the jokes are that kind of [ __ ] but on the day you definitely having a couple of buddies around making it better is the way to go well you always have a very tight ship too like doing uh zookeeper with you and like and and talking with Kevin like you work with the same people pretty much every film yeah

which is really huge yeah that's good because it's always you have a very family environment like it's all family everybody's fun they're all everybody likes working together no one's an [ __ ] it's an easy it's an easy gig in that sense that like you know you're going to come to work yeah yeah everybody's having fun ke Kevin's Kevin got that going you got that going yeah you have to have that that's gigantic you got you got like a lot of great standup friends all right when you do the road you you just bring your

guys with you when you guys like how many of you go up on stage when you take gigs on the road if I do a gig I bring usually one guy who's a beginner and then two guys who are Headliners and and and who how much time does everybody do it depends like uh this when I did the live special I brought this kid Ari Maddie who's hilarious yeah Ari did 10 minutes well he did 15 minutes the first night but on the live night he did 10 minutes so 10 minutes to warm the crowd

up and then he brings on Ron White Ron White murdered for 15 and then he brings on Tony Tony murders for 15 and then I go on after that W you're [ __ ] tough to do that to yourself put on big Heavy Hitters because that can that can get you in a hole sometimes too people crushing if as long as you're having fun it doesn't cuz audien is having a good time though My Philosophy is I I don't want bad comedians to going in front of me I want people to kill so that when

I go on stage everyone's having a great time they don't ever feel like oh they me that one guy for 20 minutes oh my god when was he going to get off stage cuz there's some comedians that like to do that they like to bring in terrible acts so they look like a hero no that's bad that's bad that's bad a for your audience bad for your own brain you just [ __ ] just you're getting lazy doing you're getting lazy it's it's a soft way to approach it so like when I do shows at

the club sometimes I'm going on stage an hour and a half into the show and it's like Brian Simpson Shane Gillis Mark Norman it's like killer after killer are going up and then I'm going up late so you got it's like running with weights on like you you got to like come out of the gate hot you know I dude I REM when I first came back to stand up I was bringing all my buddies with me and they were killing so it was good crowds so everybody would stay up you know everyone's like I

know I was going to do 15 let me do 25 and so by the time I got up there I was following like six or seven guys murdering and it was [ __ ] two hours in and then I was supposed to do an hour and a half of that I'd be like [ __ ] I got to figure this out man I'm not I mean I'll cut that's too much that's too much you wear the audience out yeah yeah yeah I feel like when a show gets over two hours two and a half hours

it's like I don't want to see a three-hour movie no you if if I'm going to watch a three-hour movie I'm going to be at home okay where I can pause if I have to take a leak go have some popcorn I want to like for 3 hours sitting in some Auditorium somewhere watching a show that's a lot it's got to be a banger of a show you're so engaged where you walk out you're like Wow have it that feeling when you know holy [ __ ] this Arena I'm losing him for about five minutes

let me [ __ ] get him get him back how about that when you see people who started the show off with like yeah and then they're kind of like tuned out going what is happening right now yeah people only have a certain amount of attention span yeah yeah you know that's why I admire bands that still like I saw Guns and Roses in grease yeah and they do three hours new [ __ ] or just no all the classics all the classics you know Welcome to the Jungle Sweet Child of Mine they [ __

] go hard for 3 hours those guys are 100 years old they're still killing he singing three hours a ripping it for three hours [ __ ] yes same with the stones I saw the stones a couple years ago at Kota the Circuit of the americaas here in town and it was insane mck Jagger's a thousand years old and [ __ ] moving but your lip baby yeah yeah still [ __ ] Dan all that energy yes funny they do like stones do two a week or something yeah that's a really funny [ __ ]

cuz when we go on the road it's like five or six that's the way to do it though when you're 80 yes yes you know you need recovery and also Mick Jagger works out every single day he has two trailers filled with gym equipment wow yeah yeah two of the trailers when they travel with the Stones it's just MC Jagger's gym equipment what a [ __ ] stud a light little body that guy looks like he weighs 120 or some [ __ ] like 120 he's ripped still 80 years old got a sixpack got the

arms ready [ __ ] ready to go and still has his pipes still can sing yeah oh yeah and Keith Richard could still play it was incredible watching them live was I couldn't even believe they were there it was one of those things where like I was almost like I was I felt like I was on drugs I was like am I really seeing the Rolling Stones are they actually there like I could throw a rock and I could hit MC Jagger with a rock he's right there my goodness I know and then how exciting

when Keith and Ron look at each other and laugh like they laugh together [ __ ] that was they're still enjoying it like and when we were kids there were no old rock stars right yeah yeah that's right right yeah yeah they didn't they didn't Elvis right yeah yeah you know he died in the 70s right so he was already dead wow man wow and so when we were kids we thought of rock stars as like Van Halen young wild people on stage jumping around that's a young man's gang no one ever anticipated 80-year-old rock

stars singing rock and roll in their 80s no doubt no doubt by the way I heard David Lee on your show yeah he's been on a couple times man I mean that band to me when I was in high school I think I was in ninth grade the first time I [ __ ] heard him I was into Sabbath my brother got me into Sabbath and then I heard I was walking up to a [ __ ] party I was like one of my first house keg parties and Van Halen was blaring over somebody's Pioneer

system and it was [ __ ] like ain't talking about love but some [ __ ] I remember just going what this is the greatest [ __ ] I've ever oh yeah they were the kings in the 80s dude they were the Kings when I was in high school everybody knew how to make that Van Halen logo on your notebook yeah yeah the notebook it was either VH Queen ACDC zeppin ACDC yeah yeah they were the Kings they were the Kings yeah but you know we never thought like we never thought they'd be still doing

it no that's right right and and then then you'd see Van Halen the last few years uh live and you'd [ __ ] be still as excited he still look smooth as [ __ ] I saw with David Lee Roth maybe four or five years ago he's he's such a character man you know he doesn't have a phone he doesn't he doesn't even keep money on him I went to dinner with him and he has a lady that drops him off with me and like she's like his Handler and she says uh I have her

number she has my number like call me if anything goes wrong you know and and just you're hanging out with David Lee Roth having dinner with him I love I love him talking about fighting with you and and because you loved him throwing those crazy roundhouse kicks oh yeah he was a real martial artist yeah yeah he used to train with Benny oritz that's right yeah yeah yeah he's he used to do those things on stage we' do like a jumping split kick in the middle of the air unbelievable look at him yeah he's a

real athlete man yeah yeah absolutely he's a stud [ __ ] sweet dick on him right there but they look at picture of his got his pants hanging down yeah just just enough show a little hit is that showing some dick rot he's a character man still to this day he's out to lunch man he'll say say some interesting [ __ ] he's smart knows knows his [ __ ] whatever he's into he's he's deep into it that guy moved to Japan to train Kendo which is a sword fighting art right right right just him

and his dog lived in apartment in Japan [ __ ] for like years man just trained Kendo I [ __ ] anytime you heard that they weren't getting along you were just like they what yeah [ __ ] you know how that goes though yeah oh anytime you would four [ __ ] people too much shit's going to go wrong yeah especially those Egos and the bands and then girlfriends don't like that guy and then right right yeah that [ __ ] happens like Valerie burelli apparently didn't get along with Roth and okay yeah yeah

that's going to that's going to be painful this how it goes it's hard for band to stick together you know I think that's way harder I remember you too would always be uh in interviews talk about how cool it is that they're still a rock band together four of them loving each other if you can get a band that enjoys each other's company that's a [ __ ] tremendous tremendous asset because so many bands like I was just reading today that um Pete Townsen doesn't talk to the rest of the guys in the who he

doesn't talk to Roger dalry they don't talk to each other wow wow like how that's funny man I just saw them I just saw the who had a a benefit and they [ __ ] destroy it was do tre's benefit and he he brought the who on there and I think drummer was maybe Ringo's kid and and uh if I remember or or it's either Ringo's kid or John Bonham's kid or anyways it was great but Pete and Roger were funny as [ __ ] ragging on each other and saying quick little insults and it

was like massive laughs like a comedian but then they'd [ __ ] have those hits that just take your whole body over and it was great yeah I don't know where they stand now or why they stand that way but I was just reading an article this morning yeah oh yeah that they don't talk to each other makes sense these guy aot like I remember hearing Sabbath on tour would [ __ ] all show up in different planes I don't know if any of is true but you're like [ __ ] Tony yomi and O

don't [ __ ] hang out the whole time like well there's always a problem in a band where the lead singer becomes the number one guy and everybody else is kind of secondary you know yeah yeah that's gonna make you piss the band's called Van Halen but the main guy's David Lee Roth right right right that's the guy everybody want ain't talking about love you know badass yeah oh my God Hot for Teacher he was the man and so like I could see how Egos and feathers would get ruffled and then the girlfriend on the

side like you know the F's name Hal it's not name be R yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah definitely definitely that's [ __ ] that guy [ __ ] that guy and then you got to stand behind it he's got all the groupies and yeah man well but they had some him and Eddie both had the uh um different people would talk about who's the greatest it'd be like David Lee Roth was just the smoothest and funniest and [ __ ] one of the greatest front men of all time [ __ ] it he was like

a standup just dominated the crowd just like I think there was some tape going around with remember remember some [ __ ] just like that's okay man because after the show I'm GNA [ __ ] your girlfriend I don't know maybe that was David L Roth or somebody else but as a kid you were like oh my God [ __ ] what that was the coolest [ __ ] ever but then I remember uh Eddie Van Halen when the when jump came out the video and seeing him smile and throw down that [ __ ]

lead and he were just like is that the coolest [ __ ] on the planet with like overalls no shirt over I went with [ __ ] no shirt overalls move one time really didn't go overage didn't get the respect not as a stand up but thought I was going to get more respect but I was on stage at a battle of the bands I was I used to sing and play guitar in a band and I went my I think my mom tie-dyed my overalls and [ __ ] and I was like I'm going

to do it I'm going and I showed up and people making too much eye contact with me not wanting to look down at the [ __ ] uh overalls it's a bold Choice it was a it was one I couldn't make now one of the funniest choices is what what if you look back at like the the metal days like you look you look back at like all the guys who dressed up like gay bikers right right right from Judi priest Jud PR it's Rob howford tricked everybody into dressing like a gay biker yeah yeah

yeah because he was gay I loved it yes so he's like leather pants and the [ __ ] leather biker helmet on with shirt and all these guys started dressing like that they didn't even understand they had been tricked into dressing like a gay biker yeah yeah I love that man that's a great woman I saw I saw them at [ __ ] Radio City with Iron Maiden really that was a biggie wow I was up in the balcony screaming screaming I want to dress like you now it was it was yeah yeah yeah I

mean come on dude [ __ ] the Helen they were nasty they were nasty that's a tough looking guy another thing coming look at him there with this [ __ ] crazy outfits yeah it's just so funny all the different styles of bands that existed oh man I had [ __ ] pleather pants I wore fake leather pants for a bit I I didn't know my body wasn't great so I was like you throw that [ __ ] on you look like a rockstar then I'd [ __ ] see the pictures that my mom took

of me after I looked back me like how the [ __ ] did you let me out wearing that [ __ ] it never fit just right I never had the body for like I would walk into a clothing store growing up there was a play you know Sarah Silverman the comedian sure yeah I know Sarah she's she grew up in in same town as me and her parents had a uh a store called Junior Deb I believe and it was downtown they sold Levi jeans and all this [ __ ] and I remember just

going okay I'm going to get some cool ass Levis go to school look like a badass and I remember uh when I would see when I saw a three-way mirror I was like these aren't fitting me like I thought you know they don't look I don't look as cool in my Levis as I thought I was you had an idea of your image I want I wanted I saw other people wearing that [ __ ] going all right I'm going to dress like that guy but it didn't reflect the same when I had it on

again youthful delusion delusion yeah did you want to be in a band before you wanted to be a comic MH one of that for sure what kind of music did you guys sing uh we did a lot of arrol Smith a lot of Van Halen a lot of Sabbath Zeppelin Aros Smith just cancelled their tour I know I know I guess Stephen Tyler you know he had that neck injury where he he fell and and broke one of the bones in his neck and apparently he just can't sing open his mouth to sing well they

were planning on doing a thing with the black crows and um wow yeah and they just for whatever reason you know decided to put the tour out and get get going and then he started and he was like I can't do it anymore done was painful man because the guy's whole life was that and by the way [ __ ] did you like arrol Smith growing up love them they were the the bad boys that every tune was nasty that [ __ ] was the nastiest push that microphone up to your face there sorry bro

and and uh yeah they they I loved um my band played literally like 10 10 Arrow Smith Tunes we'd always [ __ ] play kind of cool ones not not the massive hits but the whatever the mamin and the walking the dog and kind of cool [ __ ] like that well we both grew up in New England and they were the Kings they were the kings of new Eng they were the Kings yes yes that was they were the [ __ ] look at that yeah a [ __ ] yeah Joe per yeah bcn

yeah bcn a uh what was the kind of alternative he was the [ __ ] man could hit every [ __ ] know how about the fact that I read something that yeah he's a cool bastard and I met him and they're all great guys Joe Perry he's a great guy too [ __ ] best that's a New England accent too on Joe Perry Oh yeah it's funny to hear the boys talk I think somebody lived in New Hampshire maybe Stephen Tyler lived in New Hampshire because I that's that's where I grew up and they

they definitely uh they owned New Hampshire well they were the kings of Boston like they they were [ __ ] gigantic I remember the controversy when they did that du they did that song with Run DMC when they did Walk This Way what the [ __ ] I know everybody's like what's going on that don't make no sense I know meanwhile that's a [ __ ] great song that when [ __ ] Aros Smith came back like they became the Kings again exactly that was their big comeback song they're kind of faded for a while

then walked this way came along and it's like young people started getting into them again absolutely yeah it's funny how bands like they get you know like generational right even though they're great like Ah that's the people that listened in the 70s [ __ ] those people you know now we listen to this and then all it takes is one thing and then people start going through the catalog and like Jesus Christ guys are incredible [ __ ] same I was doing uh [ __ ] who the [ __ ] was I listen I I

play a lot of the old [ __ ] for my kids and then all of a sudden you just go wow they had so many bangers bangers yeah yeah especially the young drug taking days the wild the first three the first three albums kind of [ __ ] like Zeppelin too yeah oh yeah yeah yeah that I mean it's a different world yeah every comic wants to be a rock star and I think most rock stars want to be Comics yeah there's there's some of that too there there something about the freedom of Comedy that

they appreciate yes you don't have a band you don't need anybody all you need is a microphone you don't have sound guys you don't have anybody can you believe that yeah that's my biggest mistake is I I [ __ ] use music in my act so I got to I my piano player Dan bullah he's the best I love having him being together on the road looking back and we we laugh together that's the greatest part but the the back in the day when I just had a mic and didn't have to show up with

[ __ ] and you that really is makes a life oh it's amazing yeah you know when I would do these uh big places like the TD Garden like one of the things that would strike me is like we're just showing up there's no trucks there's no it's just a stage right and me and three of my buddies and that's it and 16,000 people and but bands play here and they have [ __ ] trucks and [ __ ] all these people have to break down the stage they're there all the [ __ ] pyrot

Technics and all the crazy [ __ ] these guys have right right I know I know we we're cool we're cool we did good we chose the right career for us for us yeah yeah yeah until you watch a rock band you go man they're kicking our ass man it's definitely something different Rock I mean rock is kind of like a drug there's something about going to see a band that's that's really good it's like you're your the music hits your body yeah it overwhelms you yeah like a drug yeah yeah yeah for sure the

right tune yeah [ __ ] you up so I agree who who would who would like some of your first concerts as a kid in B first concert I saw was Jay gu's Band you did yeah that's with Peter Wolf and [ __ ] that that's as cool as it get days Errol Smith and Jay GS can battle for the K Boston back then Jay GS was the [ __ ] man when I was in high school yeah see him I saw George Thor good there you go Johnny Winter yeah I saw a bunch of

bands where did you see him in in I don't remember I wish I could remember wer Wester uh sure wer Coliseum Centrum yeah yeah the is that what it was theum I so yeah then I got a job when I was 19 I worked at Great Woods you did yeah [ __ ] I played there what a feeling that was because we saw so many shows growing up I saw a lot of comics there too when I I I saw some Comics there when I got paid and then some Comics there I paid to see

them right like I saw kenneson there I paid to see Ken did that's cool man yeah that was that was I saw Cosby there I saw I saw Rodney there when I was working Rodney was backstage naked with a uh bathrobe on yeah yeah that's a big Rodney that was the Rodney days where the bathrobe days okay yeah yeah he would go on stage with a bathrobe just to make him feel comfortable he just was completely naked with a bathrobe on just murdering oh the best the I mean Mur and this was before I'd even

thought about doing standup I was 19 [ __ ] man but I got to see uh you saw kenison was he Kennison always dressed badass like a rockar yeah he [ __ ] had the big long leather coat on and a beret and yeah I that that was just after ID heard about kenison too yeah I had heard about Kennis from a girl that I was working with I was working at uh besides doing the security guard work I was working at the Boston Athletic Club in South Boston wow yeah so I was a still

there right yeah I think so I think they got a [ __ ] basketball court there yeah they got basketball there was a lot of racket ball there a lot of people I met Bobby or there you did that's cool I had to help Bobby or because Bobby or had had like [ __ ] 150 knee surgeres right his knees were destroyed and youd have to help him get on the Versa climber machine oh my goodness Bobby's knees didn't bend right Bobby's knees bended like this much he had like 12 in of movement in his

in his knees and so you'd have to like kind of help them get on the Versa climber machine wow I mean one of the greatest athletes of all time you watch them play racketball and you just kind of fall over because you know back they put it all out there yeah also the knee surgeries back then were archaic they were so primitive they just Ed Staples and [ __ ] screws you see a certain age you see different scars on G oh his knees that's Bobby's knees oh yeah his knees are destroyed that sucks man

man what a hero what a stud always loved them he had 20 knee surgeries [ __ ] insane was that your team the Bruins I didn't really watch sports you didn't oh yeah you didn't no once I got into martial arts I really didn't care about any sports it's pretty cool man that you you didn't cuz I know that's that's the biggest sport town oh it was a huge sport Town everybody called me a [ __ ] cuz I didn't know anything about football basketball baseball I didn't care yeah that's pretty good that you had

your own thought process going I would join join right in with trying to make the other kids like me dropping something well when I was 15 I just became obsessed with martial arts I didn't care about anything else I literally didn't care about anything else I'd watch basketball I'd be like this is nonsense who cares if that ball goes in that hole [ __ ] mean anything to my dad always told me to do that [ __ ] he'd be like do martial arts do martial arts and I like I said I went to this

guy's like I wish I knew his name name and uh I did that and then I think I a little earlier in life I tried it out but I I just my body man I I wasn't meant for it it's not for everybody no it's good though but that's like everything in life there things that are not for you yeah you just got to find the thing that is for you yeah I found a few and that's all I do hoop comedy that's it perfect all you need for happy life yeah I guess so so

this girl I used to work with she was like a volleyball player and she was really hilarious and she was uh she was working at the front desk and she was like oh my God I saw this guy this is 1986 is when Kennison had his HBO special and she told me about it she's like there's this guy and his name is Sam Kennison and she she she know that bit he did about homosexual necro necrophiliacs paying money to spend a few hours undisturbed with the freshest male corpses remember that bit I I kind of

yeah so she told me about this bit in the we're hanging out in the parking lot of the Boston Athletic Club and this girl is lying down on her stomach on the ground and she's like oh oh me life keeps [ __ ] in the ass even after you're dead it never ends and I was laughing so hard yeah and I remember like this girl just her doing kennison's bit made me go to the video store to get a VHS of of Kennison special cuz the first time I saw it it came out on video

and then I watched it I was like oh my God and that was like the first seed in my head where I was like okay this is comedy too cuz I didn't know that was comedy I thought comedy was like something I really liked but it was so different than me it was nothing that I would ever do it was just different it was like I didn't see myself that way but I saw that guy I'm like that guy's a [ __ ] animal yeah yeah tough as [ __ ] yeah this is a different

kind of comedy and that was like the first seeds in my head that I had of doing comedy yeah that's amazing and then I got to see him live at at greatwoods but I saw Bon Joy there I saw [ __ ] I saw everybody I I quit uh the night uh Neil Young was there and they had a riot really yeah in New England huh well the the the uh the lawn you know how Mansfield greatwoods has that lawn out there it was cold out and people were starting fires on the lawn and so

they were like starting these little bonfires and you know we had to break up the fires and then brawl started breaking out and uh I always knew that this job was like you know what did you get paid like 20 bucks an hour I'm not going to fight somebody for 20 bucks an hour this is crazy so I always carried a hoodie with me and so I had my security shirt and then as soon as [ __ ] would go south I put the hoodie on like I'm out of here and that's what I did

that night I quit oh yeah yeah I quit the night that's funny man yeah [ __ ] yeah C 20 bucks to get in a full-on brawl yeah there was brawls breaking out left and right the first night I was there I watched one of the security guys beat this guy with a a walkie-talkie and I was like Jesus what did I sign up for this a crazy job so cuz some guy had stole one of the golf carts and there was this dude named alicat who uh was the head of security there and alicat

tackled this guy and he's beating him in the head with the walkie-talkie wow man and I was like whoa okay what did I sign up for did you did you uh get in uh fights after you learn your [ __ ] like no that's cool no no and I avoided them all I'm not interested in fight I would like fights where they were planned you know like meeting a guy in you mean like tournaments and stuff kickboxing matches I do a lot of those but those to me made sense like fighting on the street it's

like no like people have guns people have knes this is [ __ ] stupid I was always nervous like I'm not I don't never felt like you get in a fight with someone and someone hits you in the back of the head with a bat also if you fight someone it's that's never the end like they're going to go get their cousins they're going to get their brother they're going to try to find you when you're alone like that's true you don't want that kind of problem in your life just move on oh it's s

so easy to just take take whatever they're throwing at you with like that's supposed to start the fight just being going yeah okay that that makes sense you're right I am a piece of [ __ ] I'm G to get I'm better get out of here now well it all means nothing someone says it only means something to you if you believe them yes you know someone says you're a [ __ ] you're like okay like what does that mean this doesn't mean anything you're just saying words until you try to hit me this is

nonsense it's like oh you have a bad opinion of me oh that's okay like I don't really care like I and also I was tired all the time cuz I was training like six seven days a week so I was like I don't want to be involved in this stupid [ __ ] right yeah I already worked out today I can't fight you also I was very aware of the consequences of violence I'd seen by the time I was 21 years old I'd probably seen 40 or 50 people get knocked unconscious right at least what

a terrible sight that is a lot more than that I see so many people snore you know it's just on the ground twitching and snoring SE so much that I grew up with that so it's like to me I was like I don't want none of that in my life I don't want to have anything to do with thish especially outside of fighting yeah concrete floors and [ __ ] head hit in the ground yeah oh yeah KJ worked with a guy in Long Island when KJ was a bouncer right and this guy killed a

guy he he punched a guy and the guy fell hit his head and died yeah yeah now the guy has to go to jail now you you're working as a bouncer just like I was working as a body is a a security guard in Great Woods like you could have got in a fight hit someone now you're in jail yeah and you're like for what holy [ __ ] man uh uh that's that's so cool you worked at greatwoods though that's like the what a destination to go to and see so many great [ __

] bands and I you know it's funny you said Kennison I used to be on MTV when I was young and we'd go to Daytona Beach you you were on remote control I was on remote control Quinn Quinn got me on there and and it was the best but we went to spring break Daytona Beach and kenison was at the height and I went to it was the first guy I saw at an arena kenderson and and some other bad boys though and some guys I forget their names but they open probably car leau yeah

yeah carabo right and a couple other guys they all kind of really funny tough Bast Outlaws of ComEd it that's right that's what it was and I saw kenison destroy uh and that it was it was like I saw Rodney at a theater in Florida where it felt like [ __ ] holy [ __ ] this is a rock show cuz it was bam B nuts Rodney rapid fire like a machine gun the best Rodney would crush for like eight minutes and then go I know a lot of [ __ ] jokes baby and they

go you know that was so cool man but kenison too just took over you I saw him in the moment it was it was amazing yeah I got to see Kennison decline too I got to see the decline cuz I saw him a couple of times live and the last time I saw him live it was in New Hampshire and there was not that many people there I drove to this theater with this girl that I was dating I was probably 20 at the time again it was before I did comedy and he was just

it was already like boozing heavy yeah and it wasn't as good you know right he was cuz he peaked in ' 86 I feel like the kenison from ' 86 is probably one of the greatest comedians at ever lived if not the best he was a monster he was a Monster yeah but the guy was doing blow and drinking and hanging out with rock stars and just partying and he his brother wrote about it did you ever read his brother's book uhuh Brother Sam right bill it's a great book yeah it's a great book if

you're a fan of standup I tell anybody go buy that book because it's a great book and Bill said that you could see the drop off in Sam's material because he just stopped writing he wasn't hungry anymore he had made it instead you know cuz there's this like there's this hunger inside of him to make it as a comedian and that's what led him to be outrageous and do all those jokes about like the starving kids in Africa and all these different jokes he did that were just so outrageous and that preacher voice and that

[ __ ] powerful delivery but then when he made it man he got real fat and just just drinking every night started wearing the bandana bandana days the Rockstar days it just dropped off it wasn't the same it was like a caricature of Kenn that's funny it's just happens it happens that when you're drinking or doing whatever the [ __ ] it was I I got Coke yeah sure I think that's the that's the one that really like well that makes you not think straight you definitely all over the place you [ __ ] can't

you can't stay steady with a thought yeah and uh but I I remember I met him a couple times Paulie sure was very tight with him yeah and I knew Paulie and I hung out with kenerson a couple times but uh but I saw him at the Improv the last time I saw him and he had he was a little little he was so sweet like he was so nice to me and he remembered that we hung a little bit you know I was a young [ __ ] dummy and he was nice to me

and uh he had that that kind of glazed had a few too many yeah in the eyes but he was just he definitely was when he walked into the [ __ ] improv that night every comedian was like well holy [ __ ] there he is the [ __ ] man you know it was cool he changed comedy he really did cuz there was no comedy like that before Kennison came around he was a different kind of Comedy MH it's like all of a sudden comedy was like you could yell you know oh my God

that was the biggest Force he was just like and the preacher's voice that thing that he had a where he had that Charisma of being this Tent Revival preacher yes yes when he would talk quiet oh well then all a sudden blast [ __ ] yes oh my God and he was a legend at the store you know when I got to the the store goes through these eras right and when I got to the store it was 94 and the Kennis and era had ended he died and then there was this big drop off

like the store was kind of vacant when I got there in 94 it was weird like the shows would be half empty and uhhuh yeah yeah they were having problems for B yeah but they all had these stories all the guys like har Pete and the guys that were still around they' all have these stories about when kenneson was there he would perform at midnight and around 11:30 all these rock stars would start showing up and movie stars and they would all go there to see kenon so he had the midnight spot [ __ ]

cool and they would all go and I remember thinking imagine people come to The Comedy Store just to see you that must be so insane [ __ ] cool as [ __ ] oh it was the coolest because it was all just Word of Mouth everybody this is like 84 before hepped everybody just knew about him I I rock rock I I I remember Chris was in Vegas and I went to see him with Nicholson and Jim Brooks wow and we were sitting there and [ __ ] Nicholson was laughing his ass off and I

had that thought you just had I was just going [ __ ] rock is so cool that people [ __ ] fly an hour like where is he let me go see them they sit back and laugh and I [ __ ] just going [ __ ] rock you really are [ __ ] stud man oh yeah the bring the pain days bigger and Blacker and bring the pain to the greatest specials of all time unbelievable flawless flawless yeah yeah he's a badass I I talked to rock yesterday just for like 10 minutes or something

and we got really excited about standup again I go you you're right and he goes I kind of am I kind like he can't stop when he was doing his tour he's like I need a break blah blah blah he just did like a [ __ ] year on the road or some [ __ ] and then he's right back to like got some ideas got some yeah I think that's a good way to do it take a little break and just refresh your mind so you're not running stale you know cuz he did a

live special too his live special was [ __ ] I loved it it was also like the buildup because of getting slapped by Will Smith and all that crazy [ __ ] yeah I think that was like the best thing that ever happened to him because then it became like wild again like his it was like outrageous like it was like the rock of old it that that night was like watching a [ __ ] Super Bowl you were just like what what's it's a live event holy [ __ ] what the [ __ ]

and then he was a badass and I think he had some white [ __ ] on and he looked cool as [ __ ] and you were waiting for him to talk about it and then he got to it and he got [ __ ] excited well he didn't talk about it for a while on stage like he would tell people if you think I'm going to talk about it I'm not yeah he wanted to be ready and wanted to really think about what he was going to say and how to say that's cuz of

where we are in life where anything you say is [ __ ] on the internet the next day so he like I got to be careful and not blow this [ __ ] up and also ruin the bits cuz people would just tell the bits and then it wasn't even ready yet yeah exactly cuz if you have a lifechanging event like getting slapped at the Oscars in this most Preposterous scenario the whole thing was Preposterous yeah I think for him it was also a wakeup call like hey these [ __ ] don't really care about

me in that moment yeah yeah they didn't protect me nobody stopped it he went back and sat down and then he got an award afterwards and got a standing ovation what the [ __ ] is going on here was [ __ ] weird yeah because you want you always want to be that guy who's hosting the Oscar and who's starring in the big movies and that's what everybody wanted everybody wanted to be the big movie star but then you realize like well these people are [ __ ] you know like what did you do how

did you set this up how come nobody t L him that was a [ __ ] weird moment yeah it like a guy just showing his ass like you just pulled your pants down showed the world your ass like why did you do that he probably does he probably wakes up in the middle of the night going why did I do that that whole thing would sucks yes yes Beyond it was almost like a guy who doesn't know how normal people act thinking this is what you're supposed to do go smack that guy it got

it became [ __ ] just just went to a place that he couldn't get out of yeah and started it and and still there he's still there in everybody's mind when you see Will Smith oh he slapped Chris Rock that's like IMM not I Am Legend not Mohamad Ali not insanely good movies guy's an incredible actor absolutely he's been in so many Banger movies he's a [ __ ] Blockbuster movie star and people see him they go oh he slapped Chris Rock [ __ ] that guy [ __ ] sucks it's godamn damn it sucks

man and [ __ ] uh yeah it's it follows you around it sucks but uh but my man uh Rock and the the kenison like and the that [ __ ] when you when you spread it happens like once every [ __ ] eight years or something where somebody becomes this [ __ ] yeah that every now and then someone pops through and it elevates all of us yes everybody that gets to see it they go oh my God I want to be better I want to write more yeah when nice to see Chris at

the store yeah whenever Chris would come in um and he do a set I would watch and I'd be like oh my God I remember one time I was [ __ ] in the back of the room and this comic stood in front like while I was watching Chris he's like dude I got to get on your podcast I'm like you got to get the [ __ ] away from me I'm watching Chris Rock why are you watching Chris Rock he's one of the greats and he's on stage right now and you're talking to me

holy [ __ ] get the [ __ ] out of here that's so funny man that guy never been on my podcast this day like get out of here you ruined a moment get the [ __ ] out out of here dude is he he rock is NE never wasted a [ __ ] minute on stage always trying [ __ ] out always was either notebook or just trying to remember or whatever never [ __ ] got uh tense with the crowd just was like they're not liking this but I'm liking it so I'm going

to keep going well he would do this thing where he would go on stage and he would just have raw premises and he was so comfortable with total silence yes yes where it wasn't going well and then he would Catch Fire and then start killing yeah man and then they like oh it is Chris Rock and then it would go right back he was like using them as like a sounding board and he would tell them like I'm I'm practicing you know the same I remember one time he went on somebody [ __ ] killed

and he went on and the first thing he said hold on relax it ain't going to be that funny right right right told him it's not going to be that fun Cal down exactly I'm working on some [ __ ] but that's how you develop a a monster hour you have to start off with building a structure get a foundation yeah you [ __ ] even your first night of the Tour by the last night you go now that's my act now the friends who saw you the first two nights you're like [ __ ]

I wish you would have seen me [ __ ] right couple weeks later I had I figured out that bit yeah you don't want anybody to see you when you're doing a workout set like get the [ __ ] out of here oh man this is a workout set like this could be terrible this could end bad especially when a buddy sees you eat it like that what a feeling yeah there's no Dismount here yeah yeah it's like it's interesting how those guys like like a guy like rock or Kennison or Louie or anybody who's

just like really killing it yeah it elevates everybody around you yeah everybody everybody gets a little better because of that because he get AB I I I think Rock was on stage and just killed one time and I remember John Stewart who was probably 24 at the time I I think I was like 18 or or 20 or whatever our age differences John Ste goes I I don't want I I quit I don't want like he's just like God damn that's good man well you know that's what Eric Clapton said when he saw jimmi Hendricks

yeah he saw Jimmy Hendricks he's like what am I doing [ __ ] am I doing feel like a after you see that great [ __ ] yeah well especially a guy like Hendrick that comes along and he's doing something completely different than everybody else everybody else is playing guitar they're all great and then all a sudden this guy comes on goodness I know oh that was a nasty one yeah when I work with uh Phil Hartman he told me a story when he was 18 years old he worked at the whiskey and um he

his his job was they they had those stage monitors and the sometimes the stage monitors the the the artist would accidentally kick them and they would go into the crowd so his job was to because they were a the you ever been to Whiskey small stage right not that big and so when he would he'd have to stand there like to be prepared to like catch the speaker uhhuh and hrx yeah was right there like where you are to me Hendrick was and he was 18 years old and he go dude it was insane so

fun he goes I was cuz Phil could play a little guitar too but he was watching he's like I'm watching literally the greatest guitarist of all time and he's 3 feet away from me that's [ __ ] cool man insane and then Phil did all the the album covers and [ __ ] remember you used to do the I have one of them out here framed yeah man one of his album covers he did a bunch he a great artist he was a very interesting guy oh yeah yeah he so many different things and he

he studied so he made me feel like such a fraud cuz he would study his lines and he would have like little Post-it tabs little different colored ones for different scenes and he have notes and all these different things and he he would like prepare for him they be preparing the mirror like I was like God no he was the pro for sure such a pro with everything I know man like when we were doing the show he was getting his pilot's license so like every day in between scenes he' be like reading these Pilots

manuals he was just like so dedicated to something yeah yeah I lived in the same uh apartment building when I was on snls Phil oh wow so I'd see we'd go up on the elevators together and talk about [ __ ] I was you know of course he was older so you were just excited that he'd be talking to you yeah he was a cool [ __ ] yeah I remember remember the first day on the set of news radio like I couldn't even believe he was really there yes I was like looking over across

the table you know doing the table read and I'm like how did I get on this [ __ ] show I didn't I had zero acting like I did this one how did you get it it's the craziest Story the whole thing's crazy I did MTV half hour Comedy Hour right you do like whatever five seven minutes who was the host Joiner yeah Mario Joiner so uh I did MTV half hour Comedy Hour I got a development deal out of nowhere for MTV was offering me a development deal and then my manager started saying it

was very little money it was like 500 bucks and were going to lock me up for like three years it was crazy low money it was so stupid but you would join but I was like thinking about do want me let's do it yeah I was thinking about do it because this is like after remote control and they made Dennis ly famous they had decided they were going to lock people up to Deals now because ly got famous off that then he took off and then kind of went away from MTV I see yeah yeah

so they had decided that they were going to lock up town so if I did this pilot if the pilot got picked up I would have been there so my manager said he he said I have an idea and so he decided to send my MTV tape out to all these Studios and say this guy's about to sign a a development deal for for MTV locked up but he's still Avail so then I started getting all these phone like people would call my apartment I was at home like hello and like hi this is baa

ba from Universal you know we want to get you on a plane right now to Los Angeles I was like what so I called my manager I called Susy and I was like hey dude these [ __ ] people are calling my apartment he goes don't answer your phone he goes go to the pool hall don't answer the phone and he goes just leave it all to me and so within like three weeks I had this crazy deal for like $150,000 which is the most money I'd ever even heard of in my life and all

of a sudden I was in Hollywood like out of nowhere with like CBS it was with Disney with did oh wow which is crazy cuz I was filthy yeah yeah but they would and all a sudden I have a deal with and I'm onck for that much and so I had to get acting lessons so I took a few acting lessons I hated it I was like this is gross yeah yeah yeah and then but I knew how to just pretend I'm like I pretend on stage I just pretend like sitcom acting is pretty easy

right and so all of a sudden I'm on this sitcom it gets canceled and I'm like oh I was thinking about moving back to New York but I was like I hated La I hated being around actors you couldn't joke around with them they were all so sensitive everyone was on pills they were all on anti like get me out of here I can't deal with I want to go back to comics and so I was ready to move back to New York and but I had got this [ __ ] apartment I thought that

the sitcom was going to go so I got a lease on this beautiful apartment in North Hollywood I had a loft and a pool table I thought I was balling you know I was making like 20 grand a week I was like this is amazing [ __ ] big crazy I I was like I'm rich so I got this apartment I'm like well I have this apartment I can't just leave the apartment what the [ __ ] do I do and so then I got another development deal and then so I I'd gone I on

two auditions in my entire life one of them was Hardball got that show the other one was news radio I got that show that's [ __ ] CRA made no sense made no sense and all a sudden I'm sitting there and I'm sitting across from Phil Hartman I'm like this is crazy that's a biggie I just not I had full show [ __ ] kept going for for a while news radio was big no it wasn't it wasn't I thought it was isn't that real grade yeah it wasn't big until after it was canceled oh

I see and then it went into syndication how many years did is years that's pretty good yeah but it became got really big in syndication see four years or I think we did five years we did a like 98 shows which is who who else was on I forget all a uh Mora Tierney she was right right Dave Foley amazing Andy Dick um and that's how I met Farley through Andy and then um uh Candy Alexander she was awesome Vicky Lewis he was Steven root amazing all right so it was a great cast and I

you know I felt like a fraud I was like all these people have like background and theater in films movies and TV shows and I was like dirty fil made everybody feel that way every everybody was kind of like well he's he's he's the next level but oh he was the next level and he was so good him and Stephen Ru was so good too he was the only one that wasn't even himself everybody else was just being a version of well step root and you know he was a different human yeah like he was

a sweet normal guy and then he would play Jimmy James and he would just fall into this character like he had a charact just like when he was in office space yeah unbelievable yeah so it was he's worship too yeah bizarre being on that show cuz I was 26 27 when I was on the show and I was sitting big money wow but it was also confusing I felt like such an impostor was like someone's going to figure out that I don't belong here I'm going have to go get a job that's nice though that's

a good that's a good person to be feeling like that I think I was a cocky [ __ ] who was like yeah baby they figured it out I'm here but I literally didn't get [ __ ] growing up I I audition for [ __ ] and never got nobody liked me every audition they were just like I would talk to my agent after and be like you know nervously asking what they say what they say you know and then they'd have to be well they uh did you read the sides before I'd be like

what do you mean that's what they said of course I read the sides they were like they thought you didn't know it that well I go what I fck I thought I knew it real well they didn't like it they think that you're they would use words to kind of be gentle with me but just say you're not you're not ready yet well it's funny how you have confidence when you're young and you really do think that you're ready like I remember thinking that like at Open Mic nights like you see someone on stage and

they were bomb like God I wish I could go up there that was terrible yeah how would a bomb too yeah of course yes or watching another actor and you go uh when you were young and you see someone your age on a show you'd be like what's with the what I could [ __ ] Crush that [ __ ] and then you realize looking back oh that guy was pretty [ __ ] good yeah well news radio was fortunate cuz I got to play like a more [ __ ] version of myself it was

like basically like into a lot of conspiracy theories and Weir and delusional it was like a version of me the the writers are very they know that they were I see figured me out after a while and started writing stuff in you know I talk to him about [ __ ] UFO project W top secret [ __ ] and then they put all that kind of stuff in the script I was into stupid things was fasc you got into that [ __ ] real young oh yeah yeah yeah I was I alone in your head

or just some you had somebody who brought it up to you and you started going with that well with conspiracies I A friend of mine who was in a band gave me a book once when I was on the road and it was a book called best evidence by this guy David lton it's all about the Kennedy assassination he's like you got to read this the government killed Kennedy I what remember reading this book going what the [ __ ] I read this book it was just really funny and uh I went on stage after

I read it and bombed uhhuh and and and I I apologized to the club owner I was like look man I'm funnier than that I I read this [ __ ] my mind wasn't right and they're like don't read it tomorrow I I promise I'm not going to read it tomorrow tomorrow night I killed and I killed the next night was because I put the book down I said you got to be I didn't I didn't bomb terrible but it was flat it was n good I was in a weird head space I was like

Jesus Christ they killed the president yeah I was like this is nuts that's funny man wow it [ __ ] you up it [ __ ] me up and then it got me down this conspiracy spiral so I started questioning things like what else don't I know wow and I started reading about all kinds of different things that I didn't know that's [ __ ] amazing man I read this book called The Strange death of Vince Foster it's all Vince Foster a guy who worked with Clinton who got murdered and ver they said it was

a suicide he had the gun in his hand there was less bu less blood at the crime crime scene that was missing from his body it seemed like his body had been transported to the crime scene wow yeah I was like Jesus Christ those things will [ __ ] you up fascinating [ __ ] if you get involved in reading books like that and you get your head gets filled with that kind of [ __ ] you know Quinn was like that too Quinn Quinn read a lot of [ __ ] and he would tell

me to read stuff and uh I remember he knew a lot about uh uh crazy Mass murderers and [ __ ] and I would start going what happened and he would tell me these things and I remember telling my dad some of the [ __ ] Quin Quinn told me about I don't remember who but I'd be like and then this guy blah blah blah and Ted Bundy and this and that and my father started getting like is my son a [ __ ] murder why is he talking so much about murder or so much

Joey Diaz gave me this book called Murder machine once and it's about Roy Deo do you know who Roy Deo was he was a serial killer who worked for the mob uh and he he would kill people like they had a bar downstairs and they had an apartment upstairs he would kill people and then caught them up in the bathtub upstairs and just killed a bunch of [ __ ] people it's a horrific book and I remember reading that going Jesus [ __ ] just knowing that there's people like that out there ter oh my

God and you just get in the wrong [ __ ] place at the wrong wrong guy shows up at your house oh boy oh boy yeah I was just like those things are terrible to read before you go on stage though [ __ ] your brain up that's so funny that you ate it because of that book man oh yeah I've eaten it a couple times cuz I did the wrong thing before I went on stage one time I had a gig in New Jersey and it was a college and uh I had it was

a weird place to get to it was back in the day before navigation so they would give you the the directions over the phone like go to 405 get off this exit so they give me the directions and I get the I leave early cuz they tell me it's really hard to get to and I get there about a half hour early but it was hard to get I was like Jesus Christ This Place hard to fine yeah and I was working with JB smooth uhhuh wow and uh JB was supposed to open and I

was supposed to close and they said JB's not here yet so why don't you just uh relax in the the recck room and and sit down and and we'll tell you when the show's going to start so I sit down and I'm I'm watching this documentary on the Malibu fires uhhuh and it's all these people like people lost their family lost their house house is a burn this little kid walking around looking for his dog Rusty where are you Rusty oh [ __ ] yelling for their dog your dog's dead right and there was this

fireman who was just weeping and crying because the people in this community lost his house and then they come in the green room they go look JB's not here yet so we're going to have you open up and hopefully when you get off stage he's going to go up like okay and I'm in the [ __ ] word I'm crying I was lit crying watching this thing about these people losing everything in these fires it was horrific and I went stage just ate [ __ ] that's terrible and then finally JB shows up and he

showed up and he went on after me and murdered cuz he he was loose and happy rela he came in the right mood didn't watch that [ __ ] and he's a killer anyway he's very funny anyway and I remember thinking God you can't do that and I was with my girlfriend at the time and she was like so disappointed in me like wow she seen you kill before yeah she knew I was funny like was wrong with you I go watch that [ __ ] thing I have similar it's not from watching something or

or I have moments where I'm driving to club and I'm in this [ __ ] mood where I'm going oh my God I ain't going to [ __ ] destroy tonight I have such a like the last two hours been in the right mood maybe some [ __ ] song comes on I'm like oh [ __ ] that [ __ ] me up a little bit that song and then I walk in then I'm in this [ __ ] weird mood I'm a little down I get on stage all of a sudden I let the

crowd own me I'm like what the [ __ ] happened I was so ready to kill tonight and I [ __ ] turned into yeah you're in the car just yesterday morning they let me know you were gone a good one no oh no oh yeah man Suzanne the plans they may put in into why am I here you get sad you can't get sad before you go on stage you got to protect your mind my [ __ ] my wife helps me out sometimes when she sees my head spinning before I go up she

goes they're here to see you they're here to see you that's good they like you you don't have to worry so much i' be like oh yeah yeah yeah yeah okay they're already they're here for the good time yeah fck then you know they're not testing you go have some fun with them I go yeah no no no you're right you're right and then I go [ __ ] let me go on happy cuz the times I go on [ __ ] up and be like this guy's gonna like me or am I gonna have

to fight I'm like I I've have [ __ ] up over that's why to me one of the things I've realized early on is take people on the road with you cuz in the early days when I was headlining and they would have like a local middle act and a local opener and sometimes it'd be fun that's right and sometimes it' be terrible sometimes guy would be a douchebag yeah they like why are you [ __ ] closing exactly and they would step on your material like they'd see your first night and then they cover

the same subject you have to argue with them why hey man you do you're doing one of my [ __ ] bits no man I've been doing that bit like [ __ ] you like there was like a lot of sabotage going on and it just wasn't fun cuz then you'd be stuck in this town you didn't know anybody there he watching TV go to the movies byself condo yeah yeah depressing and so I realized like if you could go on the road with funny people you're going to have fun it's good for them cuz

they get a gig so I just have to pay the opening act and I'd have to pay for their airfare and I would make less money but I would have more fun I was like more fun is more important than anything absolutely and it's more important for the show too you go up in the right frame always and I know that the comics in front of me are going to be really good yeah so it's going to be a good show yeah I want the audience to have fun but I want to have fun too

so then it was a party then I'd be on the road Jo Diaz and we'd be having a party everywhere we go we'd be just having fun and it became family it was like we wherever we were it didn't matter if we were in Ohio or New Jersey it was us daytime's fun have dinner together then go [ __ ] do your [ __ ] then stay up all night yeah I knowly but Joey was such a wild card that it this is back in the the Joey the cocaine days this is Coco Joey Coco

yeah yeah so I used to I brought a second opening act in case Jo didn't show up wow yeah yeah yeah yeah that makes some sense because some sometimes I didn't want to tell him he couldn't do the gigs hey you're not reliable cuz I loved him and I love being like the times that he's there are so magic I want to make sure that he knows he's always got a gig so I book him and then sometimes I'd book him and we do Friday and Saturday yeah and then I'd call him on Sunday I

go hey the show is 7 o'cl I'm going back home what are you talking about you know I don't do Sundays like what are you talking about you don't do Sundays I told you Joe Rogan I don't do Sundays you don't do you never told me BR that on we have a show in an hour and so having a third opening act would or a second opening act you got to do longer yeah well it would be like I'd bring Ari so if it was me and Ari shafir is like okay Ari does 25 minutes

and then I'll do an hour and 15 or whatever and we got a great show yeah man and if Joey shows up okay ground now we got a three man show perfect I love that so I I scheduled it just so you know we' always have some sort of a fail safe yeah it's [ __ ] way more fun like when I won won't go out with the the gang good Lord we have a good time man yeah you're having fun it's [ __ ] and you write [ __ ] you want cuz you want

to make them laugh exactly instead of doing the same [ __ ] [ __ ] over and over you're just like hey yeah I'm G to try some new [ __ ] out tonight and then your buddies come out and watch you and it's exciting and you watch them and you got to tag for them and you having a Time steal their [ __ ] yeah but you're you're having a good time everyone's having a good time which to me was like way more important than making x amount of, more I'd rather give them that

money and then we all have fun that's that to me was the best I [ __ ] when I was real young I started at 17 and I had a car and I so I used to get booked a lot because I would drive the good guys you know right but I noticed that it was always three of us me and the two other [ __ ] guys who were good and they would have the best time together they [ __ ] think I suck but it was fine I was just getting to be with

the guys who were like 25 I was 17 18 they were 25 shooting the [ __ ] you know getting into trouble but going on stage and destroying but uh and then you'd see him [ __ ] hanging in the hotels and [ __ ] and and always having the best night and I'd be like yeah that seems like the way I was on my own still they would kind of be like that [ __ ] Adam guy he'll take us home but he's I don't I didn't think he was that funny but but [

__ ] learned from seeing these Superstar guys on the road [ __ ] have fun isn't it funny how sometimes times those guys always think of you as that guy they the relationships are the same exactly they still like hey what's up they're like I know you [ __ ] went on I remember when you sucked yes exactly is why you back to yeah you talked I'm I still let him own me these guys I'm like all right you did see me suck you're right well that's why you have to get out of your town

cuz they always remember you as an open mic care oh yeah yeah yeah like I didn't get any like headlining gigs in Boston wow where did you play you played stitches did you stitches Nick's commi stop connection connection what a room it was great room [ __ ] incredible the little one the little one was the best that tight low ceiling yeah yeah low ceiling that's the one seats yeah it was stuffed in there Bumper to Bumper it was packed every [ __ ] time yeah Play It Again Sams was that oh yeah yeah I

did play it against Sams that place was great what was the one that was a Chinese restaurant cowon sagus in sagus yeah well then the Ding Ho was the I wasn't there for that one I think that's the one I did that place went under a few years before I started uhhuh you know so by when I came around I had missed like the hey day of Boston com it was like 84 and I came around in ' 88 that's started got so they would always talk about the dingho and there was all these killers

like Lenny Clark all these guys from the dingho didn't [ __ ] with Lenny Clark a lot of Tony V ton some some of these guys you just couldn't [ __ ] you just would watch him go how the [ __ ] can I kill like that well those guys had again as you said they had the same act for like 15 years and that act was like hammered down like a samurai sword it was so tight like Don Gavin so tight you'd see his act like Jesus Christ this guy would murder [ __ ]

uh Tommy Sledge do you remember he he would pretended to be a uh private eye I backed off I moved on but he was funny as [ __ ] some of those guys some of those guys and some of those ladies man they murdered and and uh yeah did you ever see that documentary when standup stood out no France Salam made this great documentary about the Heyday of Boston comedy called when stand up stood out and it was all about the transition between these guys being these local Comics that were as good as anyone in

the world yeah and then Steven Wright becomes famous wow and then Steven Wright gets on The Tonight Show he becomes this world was it Letterman or tonight show that he first did I forget what it was but he be he becam huge and then they're all now everyone's like scrambling like what did we do like we didn't we didn't have an act that translated outside of Boston yeah that's that's true back then it was very Boston very very local Steven Wright definitely in my high school holy [ __ ] everybody knew every it was like

Rodney he was like right after Rodney you would repeat his jokes you couldn't believe it you and then everyone was like he's [ __ ] so smart I used to work at a fire hydrant Factory you couldn't park anywhere near the place yeah unbelievable ridiculous I think I tried to write like him in the beginning I think I as a standup did like 10 different guys I didn't know who I wanted I didn't know what was right I was doing like Bobcat kind of [ __ ] I do a character I I didn't know what

the [ __ ] but stepen Wright we'd always me and my buddy we' kind of try to write in that vein of a little weird and make you think and what a what a cool joke I don't [ __ ] know I also remember all those guys got popped by the IRS cuz they were yeah they all got popped cuz none of them were paying taxes they were all getting paid cash yeah yeah yeah and so they all got in trouble I remember working at Nicks comedy stop they offered you could get paid in cash

or in Coke yeah yeah I remember those days that's how Wild those those days were and so these guys were just animals they were all getting paid cash they were drinking and partying every night and they were headlining and there's one time during the Heyday where Nick's comedy had three rooms running simultaneously and they'd have two shows a night in each room so these guys would do six sets and they were making bank and they all had a deal like the way Nicks Nicks had them set up where they they were Nicks Comics exclusives so

they would just work for Nicks but they gave you so much work yeah you didn't want to bran job you didn't want to do the too right they've had a few Road games this I remember Bill DS was conne he used to book me on the road too I worked for a private investigator when I was uh starting out when I was an open micer and this private investigator was Bill DS's cousin and I didn't find out about until after I started working for him wow and to this day one of the funniest guys I've

ever met in my life just never did stand up he was his name was uh dick Dolan he call Dave Dolan rather he call himself Dynamite Dave dickas Dave Dolan and dickas Dave he was [ __ ] hilarious I have a phone that I he died a couple years back but I have a phone that I saved and that I'll never get rid of because it's got a voicemail on that phone from him where he called me up he was like I did a gig in Boston I hung out with him I like Hey Joe

like this he was just a Boston character just a hilarious dude and he was cousins with uh with Bill DS funny man which is just small Bill DS what a guy that guy used to book me all the time even though even when I would do bad he'd be like I heard it didn't go that good I'd be like yeah and I'm in my head I'm like okay it's over yeah he call you big guy hey big guy big guy I didn't go that good big guy yeah right right right yes I know but then

he [ __ ] uh get me another gig oh yeah in quiny there was some place in quiny I forget the name of that the The Naughty Pine M did you ever work for dick dy I don't think so you never did Dick D's comedy Huts I don't think dick Dy who was the godfa he called himself The Godfather of Boston comedy okay he had a bunch of terrible G was that like 88 on yeah 88 on I [ __ ] was in the scene in Boston more from 84 to 88 okay so you were

in the Heyday I was got there like right I got there and it was huge I wasn't great but then buddy all of a sudden I got on Saturday Night Live I don't know 89 or something and those same guys would come see me all of a sudden I got big in the colleges and I was doing these [ __ ] giant shows back then it was unbelievable you know 2,000 3,000 5,000 seats and um the guys that I used to eat it in front of would come do the gigs with me and they'd watch

me they'd be like that [ __ ] Lo losers killing now the [ __ ] did that happen it's again the thing when they see you in the beginning they never respect you they they remember you sucking yeah they were right they were right back then yeah but it's it's hard for people to accept that you grew yeah which is weird that's true that's true it's like some [ __ ] pro athletes it's like like Jordan [ __ ] wasn't the man for a while right he got cut from his high school team right exactly

that shit's going to happen through in every every uh every uh profession that you you just got to get figure out what you're you just got to practice well did you always want to be on SNL or was it something that came up kind of I didn't even know it wasn't the thought I wanted to be a movie star I was cocky and telling my friends in college I'm going to be a [ __ ] movie star they'd be like why why would you be a movie star look at you you got [ __ ]

I'd be like you don't get it man I'm [ __ ] and I thought I was good-look too I thought I was goodlook like now I go how the [ __ ] did I think like I know I'm normal looking but I thought there was something [ __ ] attractive about me that people are going to be like that's a [ __ ] stud right there and um no I I then I think um I was doing stand up Dennis Miller said good [ __ ] about me to to SNL people and then um uh

Sandy werick was my manager and he knew all them and they got me an audition and then I did it and then they hired me as asked me to be a writer and I remember saying to herle he who who knew more about SNL I didn't watch SNL that much I was kind of lost they were like it's really good the uh Dana carvey's incredible I go yeah yeah he's great he's great and they're like and I was like but but I kind of want to get in the movies and they were like and my

buddies are like you should do SNL if there's that choice you know and I so you were thinking about not doing well I wasn't I wasn't sure wasn't sure I was kind of like let's see let's see I don't I'm not a writer so why am I going to become a writer it doesn't make any sense I'm not even that [ __ ] good at that what was the audition like what did you have to do I did stand up at in Chicago improv it was me rock Dana Gould and a couple other guys and

I did decent and the SNL people thought I wrote some funny [ __ ] Lauren thought I wrote some funny [ __ ] Robert Smigel thought I had some [ __ ] that I got on Wow and Spade was on how old were you I was 23 whoa yes that was big that's nuts that's as cool as it gets yes what what was that feeling like it was uh all of a sudden it became like you were in a rock band because I had you know Farley got on and [ __ ] rock and spade

and and we would walk down the street and Schneider and norm and we all were Tim Meadows we were just always together so there there was this crazy band confidence wow you know if anyone talks [ __ ] about the show we were at a restaurant like it wasn't that good the Saturday we were just like shut the [ __ ] up man like we were [ __ ] ready because there was so many of us you know it was like but then when you were alone and somebody says I saw you you're kind of

like huh yeah you know there's something cool about having a bunch of guys with you oh yeah it's confidence yeah you got you got a team yeah yeah yeah 23 mhm what was it like like when when it was popping cuz you were on a Great era of SNL too look at that [ __ ] cast yes Harman Tim look at that [ __ ] cast oh [ __ ] look how young spade looks and rock oh my God cute yeah Al Franken Jesus Christ look at that cast that's when he was in the cast

that year everybody love everybody everybody loved and Ellen Cleghorn I knew from the comic strip wow and and Melanie and Julia they all all cool all cool very tight be but we all love nean every every comedian loves nean everybody like like the way he dropped jokes in and [ __ ] smooth as smooth as hell isn't it crazy looking at yourself back then I [ __ ] don't know what I was thinking Spade sent me a a [ __ ] skit we did like six months ago and I was like this is the first

time this ever happens SP I don't [ __ ] remember that one ounce I didn't even know what that thing was about I don't remember what it was but I go I didn't remember saying any of those words I didn't know what the jokes were I didn't know what the [ __ ] ending was and he's like you don't so I don't [ __ ] remember that when you did he goes I sort of did but it was weird that's how I know I've been doing this so [ __ ] long to this [ __

] I know I've been doing this [ __ ] long when somebody comes up to me a big famous [ __ ] and we go hey man I go hey nice to meet you and he's like nice to meet you we met and I'm like I [ __ ] didn't remember meeting you what the [ __ ] happened well your your brain gets overwhelmed with people yeah you know that number dun's number do you know what that is no dunbar's number is a principle that you can only keep like 150 people in your head at

any given time and then there's some people that you can keep kind of like in a distance like acquaintances but there's like a tight group of a small number and then as it branches out it gets to like 150 everything after that is very sketchy wow and when you're famous you're constantly meeting people which is very unusual for human beings right very unusual also very unusual that they know you but you don't know them so there's this weird thing you go nice to meet you like we met like oh I forgot sorry it's not like

I don't like you it's not like I don't care I'm not mean I got a bunch of them today yeah yeah your brain's overwhelmed with with people there's no room you don't have room it's like remember the old phones where you can only keep like a 100 contacts you only that's saw the phone it had like one [ __ ] little tiny hard drive and once you got over a certain nobody keeps 100 people on your phone funny and that that's all it could take and that's how your brain is your brain doesn't have room

for all these people yeah so it's not even your fault it's like your brain's not designed to be famous no one's brain is designed never thought of it like that that's great that's what it is that's great and then when you've done so many things like as many things as you have it's just normal that you're going to forget yeah yeah yeah when the pandemic was going on um my kids found out about news radio like they didn't know about because I don't you don't talk about your [ __ ] yeah they're [ __ ]

they don't they're not impressed by me my kids my kids diss me all the time they're always cracking jokes with me it's fun it's like it's fun we talk a lot of [ __ ] but it's fun but you know they watched me on news radio and I watched one of the scenes I was like I don't even remember this at all oh you had that too right oh yeah I didn't remember it at all don't remember being there don't remember that room remember not occasionally I'll remember like four or five episodes oh yeah I

remember that one that was a fun episode that's funny man yeah but it's weird you know your brain just doesn't have any room for it it's almost like it's a lie like I didn't do that this is a lie this is oh my God this is AI by the way not one time have I ever looked back at that [ __ ] from 30 years ago and go whoa was I good I'm always like geez what the [ __ ] were you doing what a [ __ ] horrible performance there well I think that's probably

a good sign that's a sign of a person who's not egocentric and right right right you kind of have a good sense of who you are yeah yes I I hope so I the people that think everything they did is amazing you ever go over someone's house they might want you to watch something that did like don't make me do this oh that's a make me do this you got to watch my real like no no that's a roughy don't make me watch this yeah yeah yeah you can say to me you don't want this

don't do this man don't do this this is for the best also I'll start [ __ ] on you if you play that I'm going to start [ __ ] on you that's funny man it's got to be a bizarre feeling to be 23 years old and be on an iconic telev oh man I was [ __ ] never more excited to call home and talk to my New Hampshire buddies and be like it I mean remember all that [ __ ] I said that was going to happen it's [ __ ] happening I don't

have to [ __ ] right now it's really going and then when I would get on the show say one line whatever it was just like my parents my family my friends just like that was so that was incredible you you know I would play the bus boy or the delivery guy it's just say's half a line and it was like holy [ __ ] you did it you're on TV man wow my first TV show was uh Showtime at the Apollo I did that that was my first thing I ever did wow and they

[ __ ] sent a limo to pick us up it was I was I lived in Chelsea how old were we then I I think I was 18 or 19 I think it was 18 18 that's crazy went on and it was the second episode ever of Showtime at the Apollo the first was rock and rock cursed uh so much that they didn't use his [ __ ] so I was like the first comedian to be h i [ __ ] I forget um [ __ ] the host was uh was a great guy he's

in the mov is this it yes that's melore oh my God yes this one goofy guy terrified jeez SM I what an honor to be here folks me look at that face [ __ ] young here cuz you people are so special so I take a cab to come here right C maybe having a little bad day I don't know what's happening there driving along and he kills a dog how painful is this to watch hurts hurts yeah yeah hit mute hit mute yeah no I [ __ ] uh yeah I can't say I was

very good back then but I had some [ __ ] confidence what was the first movie you did uh first movie I did was pretty awesome I 22 moved out to LA did stand up at The Improv probably my third time ever I get off stage uh two or three nice youngsters director writers came up to me hey that was good you want to be in a movie I said yeah for sure they were like okay we're going to make a movie with doing a movie on a boat I said okay when when next week

we leave I go okay great I said uh you know do I have a big part they go well you're the star I go Okay cool so I go home I tell Jud app I was with my all my buddies and Jud comes over and goes what happened I said that they said I can start they go what do you he goes do they have a script I go oh I don't know I I don't I didn't even know there were scripts I knew nothing about it and then I just [ __ ] went on

a boat for six days and shot this movie at the time it was called The Unsinkable shacky moscowitz but now it's called babes a Hoy and my 22 wow and you a star of the movie I was I was shecky whoa I don't know how it happened Milton Burl was in whoa I had a scene I had a scene with him so I got to tell my parents I'm doing great what was Milton Burl like very nice I heard he shows everybody's [ __ ] it was accidentally seen if I remember that big hog of

his fell out of his shorts and he had a monster hog and apparently would show everybody as hog imagine that now getting to show your dick and being there he is yes by the way I was shape then yeah that's Adam he look at that yeah yeah that's me skinny and that's y yeah I would get shut down by a girl there and that's when I was [ __ ] young and happy 22 years old 22 wow thanks for showing that it's good without volume and then what I don't know what happen man it's whenever

my kids see that [ __ ] my like they're like why did you talk like that I I don't know I was in acting class at at school and I did a scene I thought I did great and then they you know how they opened it up to the class to say [ __ ] one kid goes why is he talking like that and in my head I'm like what the [ __ ] is this guy talking about why does you use that dumb voice I was like what [ __ ] dumb boy but then

I watch the [ __ ] back oh that kid was right man [ __ ] pathetic what was the first big movie you did um I was in Bobcat gowe made a movie called shakes the clown I remember that that was a great [ __ ] movie that was EXC yeah that was good that was that the alcoholic clown movie exactly and Bobcat was funny as [ __ ] in it and he made me and Blake Clark we were his best friends and uh that was it that was the big time wow loved it shakes

the clown that movie doesn't get enough love that was big that was like a lot of people liked it one you know it wasn't a massive hit but it was cool as [ __ ] yeah it was cool it was a crazy movie yeah yeah it was like Bobcat stretching his wings is this after Police Academy I think I think he did Police Academy first right yeah yeah wow man you got every [ __ ] thing ready to go Julie Brown Downtown Julie Brown yeah wow man yes yes there's Bob on the ground or I

think it is Bob Kat wow yeah and Florence Henderson was in it there he is yeah he knew what he was doing Bobcat he knew what a direct I didn't even know what he was talking about back then he's like I'm directing I was like well he directed did the First episodes of the Chappelle show he did yeah I was in New York and I was walking down the street and uh I was doing Carolines for the weekend and I was just walking on the street and I ran into bobcat and I go hey man

what are you doing he goes oh I'm here with uh with Dave Chappelle we're doing this show and I ran to Dave and Dave had a fake mustache on I go Dave what are you doing he goes oh Hey Joe you want to be on my TV show I was like okay what do I got I I only got like an hour he goes we're handing out medals for the best New York boobs and so he gives me this box of medals and me and him just walk around with this box of medals this is

like 2001 is something like that yeah look at wow so funny all so he had I mean you could never do this today you got the best New York wow look at you yeah [ __ ] hey wow completely random [ __ ] he's just like Dave Chappelle there too he wasn't coming up with a a new guy he's very yeah he's got his arm on her boobs you could you go to jail for that today you go to jail for that today yeah it was just Bobcat was directing it that's so funny yeah just

complete random run in to bobcat in the middle of nowhere that's cool yes and he was older than us where he was like he knew his [ __ ] and well he was a guy that like you know Bobcat had that crazy act early on where and then justd he didn't want to do it anymore yeah we just do stand up and people like Hey where's Bobcat [ __ ] you yeah he [ __ ] had he stayed strong with quitting it yeah he had to say he he did a a show with me about

a year ago he came out a couple times I think and [ __ ] murdered he's a funny guy he was always a very funny standup but he was trapped in that character that he did that screaming crazy pull your hair out character you know it's like there's guys that have characters like emo Phillips he had that yeah I love him yeah but you can't do that when you're 80 yes I know but I was trying to do that that's what I'm saying when I was young and I wasn't doing well I was like I

started doing a guy who was drunk on stage I started doing a guy who was very nervous I I don't know I was I was going for that [ __ ] too just trying to find it I didn't know what trying to be comfortable on stage you know right that's what you had going on your uh live show I was like oh [ __ ] comfortable [ __ ] not terrified you you sadden moment not not easy to do I was in the zone you were in the zone how how about the fact that you

got in the zone when there are times when you walk on on stage in these pressure moments you just go I'm here I'm talking but I'm not here right now my mouth is moving I don't know what the [ __ ] is going on you didn't have that though well I'd been through a bunch of those before so I knew never to let that happen when I was out there in the live show and it's it's also why I was scared of doing it so I just really over prepared it's big I made sure that

when I got out there I was just I just said to myself everything that I'm talking about every time I want to be only thinking about that subject I don't I'm not going to let my mind deviate or go oh my God this is going good Fu this up don't [ __ ] up this segue don't [ __ ] this up don't Fu you can't think like that you have to I I felt like when I'm at my best I'm only thinking about the thing I'm talking about and then the you lock the audience in

I think standup is a form of hypnosis yes do you think so too absolutely yeah yeah yeah I get exactly what you're saying you lock them into the way you're and when I'm seeing a guy kill on stage I'm locked into the way they're thinking I'm letting them think for me I'm just like think for me right you know and this so funny and it's like it's a form of hypnosis and I said the only way that that's going to really work is I have to just be completely dialed in like I I wrote out

all my bits I listen to recordings I watch videos I prepared for 5 hours the day of the show wow just watching video I went to the gym and in the gym I'm listening to myself [ __ ] yeah I'm just like I want to be just dial I that 100% dialed in oh that's a [ __ ] great feeling yeah when you go I know all my [ __ ] man cuz sometimes I'll do a tour then I'll break down for two weeks cuz I got you know I can't be gone too long and

then I go oh [ __ ] I got to Gig again Friday and then I listen to the [ __ ] on and then I start going oh yeah oh yeah [ __ ] [ __ ] you forget tags but then that two we break on a tour and then you go back out man you psyched to say that [ __ ] again oh yeah and you come up with other [ __ ] to say and yeah but you do have to go over the material your brain doesn't remember anymore no no no like you

your stuff just goes away what about you with uh having [ __ ] that steps on the hardest part of doing an hour is [ __ ] having the 10 minutes up front not hurt the [ __ ] next it's just so crazy I caught a lot of stuff you know but I it's been six years since my last special like I said I was thinking about doing a special in August of 2020 yeah then the country shut down and then I didn't do standup for eight months and when I did do standup again I

remember I had to listen to Old recordings luckily I record everything so I have all my recordings on my phone so I listen to stuff and I had to write things out but I remember the first set that I did I did the Houston Improv and I hadn't done standup in Forever and I remember when I was on stage I was like woo this is weird I had never in my whole career I got knee surgery and from my knee surgery I took two weeks off that was like the most I had ever taken off

ever and I think one other time I took a month off for some reason I forget why but that was weird too but that was like when I was in the middle of a bunch of other stuff I was just working so much I didn't have any time and then I remember that was don't do that again cuz it feels awkward to get back but 8 months was crazy it just such a bizarre yeah you forget how to do it yeah but it it's kind of even just two weeks take two weeks and go back

on stage again you feel weird like what am I doing it's all new [ __ ] to your brain again it's also the the experience of doing it is weird you know how to do it but it just feels it doesn't feel comfortable what a [ __ ] odd feeling when you think about uh going on stage and just going yeah I'm basically telling all you people just watch me for an hour right just watch me you're going to it's worth your time I know you drove you got babysitters yeah yeah yeah yeah this is

here we go yeah you bought tickets in advance you planned your day out what a psycho of a human being to just go let me [ __ ] come look at this yeah you have to be out of your [ __ ] mind or just really prepared yeah man you be so prepar my special this one I did uh probably two and a half hours a [ __ ] and had to cut it you know Josh safy and we all had to pick the right the [ __ ] we thought was the right [ __

] that's but I I did have so much [ __ ] by the time I did the special I I just came off the road and so I just had where did you record it with a place in Glendale a little theater oh cool hey yeah can I I'm sorry to interrupt can I hit a can I pee for one yeah we can wrap this up we've we've done two hours and 40 minutes we did yeah this is we've been here that long yeah we've been in [ __ ] insane this is the setup oh

that's my first my first Netflix I like the backrop the backdrop too it's just normal it's like did you set it up like that or is that just what it looked like back there that that was it that was that theater I forgot the name of that theater it's a cool so just left it the way it looks perfect yeah yeah that actually uh that day was uh you know Paul Thomas Anderson the great great guy and a great director he he shot that [ __ ] how many people are there in the crowd some

that one there that's that first special I did like five six years ago that some are like big ass joints you know like big arena things some are like 200 300 but the new one the new one was only like I don't know 200 200 people 250 oh wow it was real small nice that's a great way to do it too because the people that are in the audience yeah there there's 200 people like so people at home it's going to be like you're there instead of being in an arena where like you feel disconnected

you can laugh at the jokes but you don't feel like you're there that that's exactly what uh so Josh safty he directed it he wanted it to feel like you getting to hang out with me and uh it's kind of like just [ __ ] goes on throughout the show that's that's wasn't supposed to happen and uh and that's that it shows me before a show during the show and after the show and uh man we had fun it is a great [ __ ] vibe that place that was not a comedy club it was

just a little theater that they do um these people bought a theater they put on little plays there and [ __ ] and then uh joshh liked it and they made it kind of feel like a standup that's awesome and when is it out what day uh the 27th August 27th yeah okay it's a couple weeks from now yeah yeah yeah all right man congrat on yours congrat on everything buddy thanks congratulations to you too my piss ended the whole thing I appreciate all good all right right on man that's imagine amazing you hung in

this long L A lot of people an hour and a half in they started clamping up that's good man I I just I just mentally said I got to get past that pissing man well thank you brother appreciate you thanks for being here to good to see you Joe congrats keep up to all the good work say hi to your family too thank you all right bye everybody [Applause] [Music]