Becoming SUPERHUMAN: Unlock The Full Potential Of Your Mind & Heart | Gregg Braden

the ability to heal our own bodies we've been conditioned away from it led to feel helpless and Powerless and what the science is showing is rarely are our bodies ever broken we're beginning to look at the human body very very differently every organ is capable of stopping disease healing the disease that's present and reversing any damage that's already been done super memory super cognition super learning all these things that are available to us it all begins in the human heart and it is where our high levels of Mastery come from we can harmonize the neural

network in the brain and the neural network in the heart we the only form of life that we know of today with the ability to do what I'm going to describe there's a beautiful place where science and spirituality come together this is what gives us the evolutionary Edge so that we can transcend the challenges that we see in our lives now that other Generations haven't had every time one of us has the wisdom to know that we have a choice and the courage to choose and become a better version of ourselves that's how we create

the best world possible hey everyone welcome back to the know thyself podcast this episode is going to be a continuation of our conversation last week with Greg Braden we're going to be diving deeper into the human potential the power and intelligence of The Heart Building mind brain coherence and I think this is going to be a uh a nice full circle moment from our Explorations last week about the origins of where we come from the time we currently face uh as Humanity transhumanism and everything we discussed uh Greg thanks for coming back on I am

so happy to be here I've been sitting in this chair for a week waiting for this moment so that we can do part two now it's same same day and it's a it's an important part of a big conversation and I just want to tell you Andre I really appreciate your patience with uh allowing me to unfold the stories as uh as you have and uh for the opportunity for this deep conversation I think it's important conversation I mean the honor is mine the privilege is mine thank you for being here and and co- weaving

this with me and uh I just can already feel the impact of our last conversation and and how this really will serve people get context for where we're currently at but then also give people a big permission slip to unveil and remember the power of who they are yeah you know I think it's important and um I'm going to be the first to admit and acknowledge with our community a lot of the things we're talking about there some people are on totally on board with everything we're doing they're saying yeah yeah you know I've always

felt that and for some people what we're talking about some information I know it's a way different way of thinking and uh so I appreciate your community my family as who we're talking to uh just giving us the opportunity to share these perspectives this is a tough time in the world we're going through unprecedented young people have talked to me and they said this has always been this way and what I have to tell them is no it hasn't always been this way this is an unusually turbulent uh time uh a Time the energy is

so stoked is the way that that a lot of people say it to me we're on the price of something happening and I think everyone feels it something big is about to happen they can't put their finger on quite what it is but they know it's there they know it's important they know they're part of it and so people are writing us live events they come up to us you know we they comment on our social media what can we do what's happening is the big question number one what's happening number two how can we

make it better what can we do to make it better and I think that's why this conversation is important and last last time we met In This Very Room we talked about the big picture and I think now we have the opportunity to zoom in on what that big picture really means to you to me to everyone that's watching this as an individual uh to help people feel more at ease with the shift there is a shift uh we're in it and the only way out of it is to go through it we cannot stop

what's happening and we can't go back to where we've come from we've got to go through it the question is do we go through it and come out the other side with a soft Landing or do we make it difficult for ourselves and that's where I think this conversation can be can be really helpful so so once again this is a dance I'm going to follow your lead and let's let's let's go so we mentioned a little bit in the last conversation that the more that we truly know ourselves the less with that we fear

the change of what is coming because we know and we feel and our hearts really do tell us how capable we are to adapt and evolve with the with the changing tides of what's happening I think first off just from our last conversation when exploring a lot of these alternative perspectives I feel like it's such a crime not just to be able to be open to explor in them not to you know and there's that I think it's Aristotle quote of saying the measure of an a matured intellect is being able to entertain a thought

without accepting it to be able to explore these perspectives and not necessarily accept them as truth but as a possibility you you know I appreciate that so what I I'm going to invite our with your permission may I speak to our viewers directly can I look just at the camera what I'm going to invite you to do is is this first I I appreciate you taking the time pushing the button that's bringing us together in the way that we are today and this family and this is a family that you've created around this work in

your podcast and Community is so important right now everyone watching this you have a belief system it's worked for you it has to because you're here if it didn't work you wouldn't be here so I'm going to invite you to take everything we do and in your mind have a little file folder called possibilities put everything in those possibilities that makes it really safe it's just entertainment the moment the universe brings something to your doorstep that challenge your belief systems and they fail you what I'm going to invite you to do is don't struggle trying

to make the old belief systems serve you bless them let them go open this file folder called possibilities and I think you're going to be amazed at how well this conversation serves you and supports you and loves you because that's really what this is all about the Deep truth of our existence is All About Us loving ourselves and and loving one another enough to witness our joy as well as our suffering and support us as we go through this this just outrageous time in the history of our of our world I think it's a powerful

reminder and permission to be able to explore these things and even in our last conversation I've always H had a I feel like a healthy level of skepticism when it comes to exploring all these things because you don't want to have such an open mind that it becomes closed again to where you just accept everything a friend of mine said she has an open but not a gaping mind so we want open minds but not gaping Minds exactly but you also don't want just a closed mind where you're just stuck in callous in your belief

system in the way so let's dive into this conversation and and explore some of these possibilities as we are starting to see more and more and science is becoming like much of your work also Joe despenas and many friends of yours and mine are starting to use science as the Contemporary language of mysticism and where I want to start is actually the power and the intelligence of the heart because we're seeing many examp examples even in cellular memory transfer cases where I would love to share a little bit about that 8-year-old girl that story of

when she had a heart transplant and it get it starts to point at the power of memory the power of our heart and eventually you know the the human capabilities that come with it sure I'm I am going to begin that conversation by reiterating a small part of our last podcast where we're beginning to look at the human body very very differently from an IT perspective Information Technology from an engineering perspective our bodies the scientist tell us we're we're about 50 trillion or so cells every one of those cells has an electrical potential 07 volts

small amount you multiply that by 50 trillion and it's over three billion volts of electrical potential in our cells every cell is a transistor it massages electricity and information it's a resistor it's a capacitor it is a photon emitter every cell emits and receives photons which are light which is information so we're constantly broadcasting information on a subconscious level we probably don't even know what we're saying to the world around us to other individuals we pick up on this as individuals I'm picking up on your Vibes you're picking up on mine there's a photon exchange

that is happening there an information exchange every cell in our body is capable of storing and retrieving and remembering of self- diagnosing of self-repairing we now know that every organ in the human body Bar None is capable of stopping disease healing the disease that's present and reversing any damage that's already been done pancreatic tissue heart tissue brain tissue spinal cord tissue if they are given the right environment and this is the key now the environment might be the external environment but rarely is it the external environment more often than not it's the internal environment certainly

nutrition is part of that but emotion the power of human emotion to direct the energy in our bodies through all those 50 trillion cells has been sidelined by science but our most ancient and cherished spiritual Traditions have told us that's where the action is front and center this is the 45th I've done this work in one form or another and there are windows of time when it's good to travel and when I've had the opportunity to be with well I've had the opportunity to visit some of the most ancient and magnificent and beautiful and remote

and isolated and pristine places remaining on the earth the temples where they have the texts and the people that preserve the knowledge regarding what science is now discovering so so the science is revealing the nuts and bolts of how things work but then they're saying okay what do we do with that how do we apply it science is only about 300 years old say science began about the time when Isaac Newton formalized the the laws of physics for 5,000 years our indigenous ancestors they didn't try to focus on how things work that wasn't important to

them they focused on applying what they understood in their lives so we've got now the opportunity in this generation we stand on the shoulders of 5,000 years of our most ancient and cherished spiritual Traditions giving us the tools and the science of 300 years now telling us what those tools do the effects that they can have and the bottom line is what works let's do more of it and for the stuff it doesn't work let's don't do it anymore and that's where we get to go with this so all of the things that I have

just shared about the human body those 50 trillion cells and all those and there's more potentials that we could go into we're the only form of life Andre that we know of today with the ability to self-regulate all of those functions what that means is we're the only form of life that can sit down in a chair like this in a moment in time on demand at will and say in this moment I choose I choose to create a strong immune response you know who doesn't want that in this day and age I choose to

awaken my longevity enzymes and if you do that it's not just about living longer if you're living longer it means you're healing all along the way and you're healing on really really deep level so we're talking at the molecular genetic level that's the only way to achieve that longevity we're the only form of life that can sit down and say in this in this moment I choose to create more resilience to the change my life my life's feeling a little crazy right now my friends are going nuts parents are going nuts you know my government's

going nuts you know what am I going to do we can create not necessarily to change what's happening out there but to change how we respond to what's happening out there in a healthy way and that's the key so the ability to self-regulate our own biology is a big part of our Divinity we talked about Divinity in dep in the the last segment of this podcast our ability when we take these abilities off of autopilot we accept the responsibility for our own immune response and Longevity enzymes and resilience and and all the other things super

memory super cognition super learning all these things that are available to us it all begins in the human heart and this is where the action is so I wanted to preface what I'm about to say with with that 1991 scientists made a discovery that shocked the medical community for sure and the scientific community in general what they found was a neural network inside the human heart they found about 40,000 specialized cells they're called sensory neurites they're like neurons brain but they're not in the brain they're in the heart they think independently of the human brain

they feel independent ly of the human brain they sense they remember independently of the human brain so right there I've just said a big piece of information that affects all of us and here's why we all have had trauma in our lives every one of us but our trauma is perceived differently through the filters of our life experience so your trauma might have devastated you when you were 3 years old and then you tell me about it and I'll say huh what's a big deal you you know my trauma at my father left our home

when I was 10 and it traumatized me because it said something about safety in the world and not feeling safe and I I still deal with that I'm still healing that and I might say it to you and you would say what's the big deal you my dad left and hey you know piece of cake the point is our trauma is individualized it's personalized it's Unique but every one of us has it when we have trauma it's registered in multiple places and if you attempt to heal that trauma only through thinking and talking about it

from the mind it can help and I think it's a good thing to do but many people say wow I've done that and I feel incomplete now we know why because the the talking or the therapies may not have addressed the thinking and the memory independent in the heart the heart has a very different language it doesn't always work with the words so this is one of the the amazing things that we're finding out about the the human heart when I was in school back in the 50s 1950s and 60s it's a mindblower to me

but to say that but when I was at school in the 50s and 60s I was taught that the um the heart is the master organ in the body number one and it's a pump and we all know it pumps really well but you can build a machine to do that here's what the new discoveries are showing now is that the heart the brain's important I'm sorry did I say heart the brain's the master organ in the body the brain is the master organ that's what we were taught but the brain receives the instructions that

tell it what to do from the heart the heart sends those instructions based on the way we feel about the world around us and those perceptions are all through the filters of our experience so all of a sudden the heart becomes front and center because we now know the heart is telling the brain how to regulate the body number one number two the heart this neural network is key in what we call Heart intelligence the last episode this podcast we talked about how memory information our Divinity our imagination our creativity our Innovation our intuition are

all information in the field that we tune to rather than that information actually residing in these cells in these neurons you know scientists have they've looked at the neurons and saying where's the memory where's the memory well the memory is not in the neurons the neurons are the antenna they are soft antenna a biological antenna that is in resonance they tune based upon our feelings and our demands when we say I'm going to learn Spanish that's a demand to the body to build the antenna to tune to the place in the field where Spanish as

a language lives where millions of other people tune in as well so all of a sudden the heart takes on a whole new significance in the scientific World it parallels our most ancient and cherished spiritual Traditions who've always said that the the heart is is is the seat of the Soul as my my brother Gary zukov wrote a book called that my spiritual Brother Gary uh that the heart is the seat of the soul the heart is is probably one of the least understood organs in this respect and one of the biggest mysteries is that

on a particular day in the womb of our mother in one moment in time there's a clump of cells that are there and in the next instant something happens and the first heartbeat begins and scientists do not know what triggers that first heartbeat there are theories talk about ion potentials across cell walls and you know things like that if you ask our indigenous ancestors when I was with the monks and the nuns in Tibet when I'm with my Native American friends and I'm with my ketua friends or my Amara friends and Lake to deaka and

Peru they all my Yucatan friends the shamans in the in the Yucatan and the Maya Traditions you all say the same thing the first beat of the heart is the moment that our soul comes into our bodies our soul is part of but it's separate from it's a part of us that is Ageless timeless it is the Divine that is in that field it's when when the resonance between the cells in the heart in that neural network come into phase if you want to think of it that way with this part of the field so

the ability to self-regulate our own biology is a stunning a stunning ability we're trying to build Ai and smart computer systems that can diagnose and repair and heal themselves and we can't do that with software right now but if you think of us as an engine neared biology we have the programs the the soft Pro we are literally a soft technology so we're not a hard technology of silicon chips and wires and uh you know software running through printed circuits we're neurons we're we're more than that we are neurons or cell membranes we are ion

potential is moving across cell walls with the ability to self-regulate ourselves we are so good at it that we take it for granted and that is a stunning capability and it is where our highest levels of Mastery come from now the next level of this is once we embrace the neural network in the heart now you say okay we've got two neural networks we have a neural network in the brain we all know about now we have one in the heart one of the highest forms of of mastery and one of the deepest places for

our healing we're the only form of life that we know of today with the ability to do what I'm going to describe we can harmonize the neural network in the brain and the neural network and the Heart two separate organs become one powerful potent system in what is called heart brain coherence and the ability to do it it's very very simple uh there's an organization here in Northern California well there in Northern California uh The Institute of heart math they a pioneering research organization and the power of the human heart in unconventional ways Beyond just

being a pump I've known them almost since their Inception I'm not their employee I've worked with them we tour together we fundrais together we do webinars together they're dear dear brothers and sisters and they're really good people and and they've given me permission as an independent resar Archer to share uh and talk about their work so I just want to acknowledge that uh they've developed three very very simple steps that allow us to harmonize the the heart and the Brain very easily based on the ancient in the Indigenous Traditions it's a shift in focus a

shift in breath and a shift in feeling a shift in focus from the world out there into the heart number one number two slower breathing and and when we slow our breathing and there's um there is a little bit of science to this when we exhale for a period of time longer than we inhale we trigger the parasympathetic nervous system it's the relaxation response so it doesn't make any difference what the times are it's just that the release needs to be longer the inhale so if you're inhaling for a count of four and then you

release for a count of six something that simple that's step number two and then step number three is while the focus is in the heart while we're breathing slower from our heart to focus a feeling and this is something new other form of life can do we're invited to have a feeling because we choose to have the feeling rather than relying on the world around us to give us a reason for the feeling now you think about that most people if you say Okay a positive feeling so let's say the feeling is a feeling of

gratitude many people will say well I'm waiting for something to be grateful for we're the only form of life that can initiate that takes practice but we can initiate it at will on demand when we change the way we feel we're actually Shifting the chemistry in our bodies in many many ways over, 1300 positive biochemical responses in the body from shifting from our mind into our heart number one breathing slower number two and feeling a positive feeling such as gratitude that works pretty much for everyone once we accomplish that coherence that can be an end

unto itself or it can be the Launchpad for deeper states of Spiritual Awakening and and development and healing in health physiological healing and health just from 3 minutes of that process the immune system is is strengthened and scientific evidence shows this the Sia first level immune response in in the lining of the mouth uh is strengthened more than many antibiotics can do this is what the researchers found we awaken the longevity enzymes we trigger the healing of the telomers uh there's an en called teleras that is awakened from this process we actually relieve stress Andre

on a molecular level so many people are stressed in ways they don't even know so we all know about emotional stress bad relationship traffic on the 405 freeway you know we know about that when we eat foods that are cooked in oils that have been exposed to high heat for example that is stress to the body and the body has to work to compensate for that we drink water that has impurities of the wrong pH our body has to work to compensate for that pollutants in the air we're exposed to this stuff all the time

so those are levels of stress we may not even be aware of and this coherence actually relieves that stress it heals all the way down to the molecular level and what the research has shown is 3 minutes a minimum of 3 minutes will increase the DHEA levels over 100% which is the precursor to every other hormone in the body male and female both increase that DH EA without taking any supplements or changing a diet or anything uh and you decrease the cortisol levels the stress hormones by about 23% after only 3 minutes and those effects

will last up to 6 hours if you know barring some Black Swan event that comes into your life the the effects will linger for for up to six hours after only three minutes of doing this this is how powerful we are so the implications of the ability to self-regulate our own biology they run deep in terms of divinity those are the ability to heal our own bodies that is a Godlike ability that the Ancients talked about in the literature we have it at our fingertips we've been conditioned away from it led to feel helpless and

Powerless that we need intervention and and sometimes we do and there we have technology for that and I'm happy that that technology is there when it reaches that point the point is to honor the gift of this body this Temple as we talked about in the last podcast to the point where you don't need that kind of intervention because you are maintaining through the ability to self-regulate all all of these things so this is really put sign into a place there's a beautiful place where science and spirituality come together even though a lot of scientists

don't like it and a lot of spiritual spirituality or or people that follow spirituality they don't like it either they like to think that this spirituality somehow supersedes the science and the scientists like to think that they're more modern but here's what happens when we drop those judgments and we allow the two great ways of knowing the science of 300 years and the spirituality of 5,000 years those are two forms of knowledge when we allow that knowledge to honor and serve us we then create a wisdom that's greater than any piece of knowledge can be

and I think this is what gives us the evolutionary Edge right now that many of our ancestors didn't have they didn't have the science so that we can say successfully navigate and Triumph and transcend the challenges that we see in our lives now that other Generations haven't had we now have this at our fingertips the ability to self-regulate our biology through the changes does that make sense if I say it that way this is yeah this is groundbreaking and I think it's really important and it's part of the matured individual to be able to be

willing to abandon your worldview in the face of new evidence in the face of new truth that points to the power of the magnitude of the human being even when you were speaking to the electromagnetic field of the heart and um the story of the cellular uh memory transfer that happened in the girl that had the the organ transplant I think that's an important thing to reflect on as you're speaking to the power of the heart we see so many examples in real time how the heart stores memory like you're speaking to in these 40,000

neurites and it shifts from this we become a very very uh logical materialistic reductionistic society that overly identifies with the intellect which is a very important valuable aspect of the human being but overlooked much so the power of the heart yeah well this is part of what's happened part of what's happened is the term that's used is information Silo and we have such individualized customized sources of information now our personalized YouTube channel or Facebook Channel or whatever you know whatever is Twitter feed or whatever it is and the way those algorithms work is that once

we show an interest in something the algorithm says oh you this person must want to see more of that and so we begin to receive feeds only about that and pretty soon it looks like that's all there is omitting other perspectives other ideas other belief systems and and other World Views so many people and again we do this I do this in Live Events all the time people say well my religion tells me that this is true or my biology teacher tells me this is true the invitation I think Andre for all of us is

without judgment bless the ways that have served us in the past when we have learned to excel we've got to cross the traditional boundaries that have separated these ways of knowing in the past because the truth is those boundaries don't exist in nature nature doesn't know the difference between chemistry and geology and biology and physics we put those boxes there so we can feel comfortable studying but nature just says hey man there's a world out here have fun you know and so to the degree that we can allow ourselves responsibly I'm I'm not saying just

go you know willy-nilly but but to responsibly cross those traditional boundaries thoughtfully with research that substantiates what we and and lived experience is a big part of that this is where the wisdom comes from and I'm making a distinction between wisdom and knowledge so the knowledge is the nuts and bolts tells us how things work that's cool what do you do with that that's the wisdom of how you apply it in your life and this is this is I think what's up for this generation and for our our time in history right now so you

mentioned this story of and I didn't get to that of of the heart anecdotally there have always been since well the first heart transplants I believe began back in 1960s I didn't know we're going to talk about this and I don't have it in my fingertips but I believe it's 1960s Dr parasol I believe is an individual that helped study this these particular cases Paul Paul prol and I think it was Christian Bernard was the the first doctor that did the the transplant and uh and there have always been anecdotal stories and we laugh at

them because they're funny so for ex example and Paul pral has uh collected these stories and C categorized them so we can we can see them at our fingertips uh one of the stories there was there was a woman in her 80s healthy otherwise healthy woman she received a heart transplant typically your donor is anonymous you don't get to know anything about the person um that either the heart has gone on to or is receiving the heart it was successful the woman you know the doctor it sounds like a joke the doctor comes in and

says how you feeling she goes I'm fine but I'm hungry he says I'll get the hospital get you some food and she goes I don't want hospital food and she had very specific kinds of food she'd never eaten before uh she wanted beer doi's beer she'd never drank before she wanted uh french fries but only McDonald's french fries and chili peppers and her family says wait you know what's wrong with Grandma she's never had any of that before they did a little research and what they found was those are the favorite foods of the man

he was uh a motorcyclist who had been in an accident lost his life his heart was intact those were his favorite foods and they said oh isn't that a coincidence you know isn't that interesting how she likes the same stuff that that this guy you know used to like and and that went on for a long time the story that and I think Paul talks about this in the book uh that really broke the ice on this was a young girl who was being chased by a man uh who wanted to hurt her in a

forested area she tripped and fell the man caught up with her he assaulted her uh he looked her in the eyes and he said very specific words as he was taking her life and she died and her heart was transplanted into the body of another teenage girl um but I believe was a little bit younger and it was successful almost immediately the girl began having nightmares and the doctor the the surgeon said I've done my job you know this this isn't my my problem you need to see a psychiatrist the psychiatrist almost immediately recognized that

this these weren't dreams they were memories and they brought in a forensic artist from the police department and they asked this young girl to describe the face of the man that she was seeing in her dreams that were recurring and she did and they put out an APB the man was recognized he was living in the community they brought him in and under questioning he broke down and admitted to taking the life of the girl whose heart was now in the woman who is recalling the memory based on that information he was accused he was

tried he was convicted and he is now imprisoned and it was all possible because of a memory that resided uh with the heart and notice I'm not saying in the Heart It resided with the heart of the girl who received the trauma the man admitted to the words the actual words that the girl was reciting from her dreams were the words that he used as he was killing her and that was pretty much what what tipped the the scales that got the attention of the authorities and they said how how can this be possible and

this was uh this was part of the recognition of the power of this neural network and the fact that the heart has an independent memory of the cranial brain feels remembers it thinks it senses independently of the brain and now when you think about us as humans here we are walking this Earth we navigate these two realms every day in our lives and we don't think anything about it because that's how good we are most of us most of us and we are constantly doing this dance between what's happening in the neural network of the

heart and the neural network uh in in the brain I love this quote that I heard you say as well that without thinking of the letters listen to the language of the heart and when we're building the connection to the heart this that story is so powerful when I first heard I was like holy I like looked into it cuz I wanted to make sure like check the validity of it and it's just so powerful as to the memory that comes with the heart as you were speaking to the field that's connected to the memories

or the neurites that are there and this opens up a lot about the potentials of the reality of the intelligence of the heart well it it does may I jump in yeah yeah because I this is why I stated this the way I did the three-step process we went through in and of itself can be an end which was shift Focus Shift breath shift feeling the feeling all right and and those three minutes create those physiological effects the coherence between the heart and the Brain that's created from that can also be the launch point for

some of our our deepest spiritual and trans spiritual experiences uh so for example deep intuition when we want to access what some people maybe call our higher self or you know whatever it is that you want to call it the Deep intuition when we communicate with our heart there was a peer reviewed I'm going to paraphrase the sentence there was a peer-reviewed scientific journal it was a journal of alternative and complimentary medicine The Institute of heart math contributed it was their article that said uh that the the physical heart is now recognized as being coupled

to a field of energy that transcends the limits of space and time as we know them today it transcends the limits uh of physics as we know of of time and space this is why our prayers can be so powerful this is why there was a woman that was documented her she was in the US in Chicago her son was in the battlefield in Afghanistan and there's a time difference obviously between those two places she woke up in the middle of the night with a sense that her son was in trouble in the battlefield and

she called the commander at the base in Afghanistan and they said he's out on patrol we haven't heard anything everything's fine well come to find out the they had hit an IED and he he was alive but he had been injured she knew about it she sensed that something was wrong she didn't have the specifics but she knew he was in trouble before his own commanders knew he was in trouble and you say well how how can that happen because time and space when we understand the laws of the field so 2012 scientists announced the

existence of this field that underlies all of creation properties of the field it is it is entangled there's a a property of entanglement everything's connected to everything else and I can talk about that more in a minute it is holographic that means that the whole is reflected in the part As Above So Below uh it is fractal and we talked about that in in the last podcast the idea of entanglement I just do you mind if I please just share this a little bit because a lot of people you know I see this in the

live audiences everything's connected and people are taking notes yeah everything's connected cool you know where is that mean what physicists tell us is in the first few fr fractions of a nanc after the Primal release of energy that began this universe what some physicists call the big bang I did a little research they were male physicists that called it the big bang I wonder what a female physicist I ask them because a female physicist would have called it something like the first breath of the new beginning of the dawn of you know whatever no we

got the big bang and here we are just like we want so so what they say is within the first fractions of a second all the matter the physical matter in the universe was compressed into the space about the size of a single green PE and they say it was like 17 billion billion billion million million degrees F I said how do you guys know and they said well we don't but it was hot okay so it was really hot and I believe that it was compressed so think about this everything was compressed and then

the release of energy all of that matter began to expand into the universe it's it continues to expand today the universe is still expanding when it was in that green pee it was connected and even though it's no longer physically connected it is energetically connected we are all energetically connected to to varying degrees the heart apparently speaks to that field on a level beyond the linear because we're we're taught that nothing can travel faster than the speed of light there was an experiment that was done in Switzerland 1997 called the twin Photon experiment are you

familiar with it have you read about this one yep for our viewers that may not have it was very interesting because what the physicist did was they took a single Photon they cut it in two because they wanted two identical photons same properties they Ed fiber optic cables and they sent one Photon seven miles down this fiber optic cable seven miles the other one down that fiber optic cable and they're now 14 miles apart then the experiments begin what they found was whatever they do to one Photon the other one acts like it's having the

same experience at the same time so here's a trick question the trick question was how does this Photon tell this Photon what's happening so they used atomic clocks and they said what is the difference in time between when this Photon has its experience and this one registered it atomic clocks the difference in time was Zero it was simultaneous there was no distance uh there this difference in in time which means this one cannot be sending its experience to this one this is right why it's a trick question how' the information get from here to here

it didn't because it's all already there because it is entangled the property of entanglement was being proven in that experiment so this is why a woman said to me in in an event once she said how do I get my prayer from my living room to my kids who are having a hard time the prayer is already there our job is to create the prayer we don't have to worry about navigating it shipping it across the oceans Over the River and Through the Woods you know to to get there power of as if yeah yeah

you feel the feeling as if the prayer is already answered and this goes a long way to helping us to understand how this field Works Andre the field is neutral and it can only act on what we give it to work with so when we ask for something to happen we ask for a prayer to be fulfilled what you're saying the field is it's not fulfilled now you're saying please let this thing happen what that means is it's it hasn't happened yet and the field will reflect that not happening that not happening which is very

different than giving thanks for the outcome that's already occurred thank you for the healing that's already occurred thank you for the safety of my family thank you for a beautiful interview with Andre and in his Studio that's my prayer that was my prayer this morning uh because now you're giving the field something it can work with with and it is mirroring back what it is that we give it to work with it's a neutral field it it doesn't know about good bad right wrong it's just going to give us back what we what we give

it to work with and this is a big part of Where the Heart comes in because the heart now scientifically documented in the Journal of alternative and complimentary medicine is coupled to this field they know it's coupled to this field so this is science taking a big leap saying wow there's something going on here there's a part of our bodies that is actually tuned to communicate to the stuff our world is made of and this is the Crux of what our most ancient and cherished spiritual Traditions have always said The Institute of heartmath took this

one step further in the 1990s there's a Russian scientist his name was popon who began studies in the former USSR now Russia uh came to the United States and and completed these experiments and what they did was they took human DNA pristine DNA that came from umbilical tissue so it has not been degraded by ultraviolet light in a a lifetime of toxins and chemicals pristine human DNA and they isolate that DNA they put it in um in a suspension in a tube and put that tube inside of another tube and they had an individual hold

that tube and a couple things are going on here first of all what they found was when that individual was feeling what we would call negative feelings hate anger hate jealousy rage fear that that DNA would actually contract it would tighten up like a little a little knot and in the presence of love and compassion gratitude appre iation the DNA would actually relax so much to the point that it began to unwind as if it was going to replicate itself here's why that's important for the DNA to express fully it has to be relaxed we

all know that when we're in fear we don't think well our uh certain chemicals in our body shut down while other stress chemicals kick up we're at our at our best when we are in love and en Joy uh nurturing and compassion this is the first time that human emotion was found to actually be able to influence you know what what it was that was happening so the second part of the experiment they took the DNA which is the stuff we're made of and they had a container of photons which are what atoms are made

of okay so so here is a a it's called a vacuum container full of um of photons and they measure those photons they're all over the place just what they thought no big deal that's what they expected okay the stuff that the universe is made of then they take the DNA the stuff we're made of and they put it in with the photons they measured it again the DNA influenced the photons the photons all lined up following the the shape of of the DNA this is science telling us is the stuff we're made of has

a direct influence on the stuff the world is made of just in nature when we direct that through emotion and thought and feeling and our belief systems we are actually influencing the world around us in ways that science has been reluctant to accept but this is what our ancestors have always told us so the bottom line the stuff we're made of is in now notice I didn't say control I didn't say manipulate but we have the ability to influence the stuff our world is made of including our healing it's such an Awakening Epiphany because at

that in that example you gave of two particles 14 miles apart having a simultaneous experience well at that atomic scale if that's happening and they're entangled everything is also existing well this is what helps the people to really Embrace this concept when they know about about that experiment those two particles once they were the same particle they were connected and then even though they were physically separated by 14 miles energetically they were still connected once every atom in this universe was part of a single Green P that was really hot of compressed energy and even

though those atoms now are physically separate through the expansion of the universe they're still energetically connected we are part of all that we see and to varying degrees we have the ability still to influence and to use it's like the internet of the universe this is why prayers are so powerful I'm sure you're aware of the studies Placebo uh where they take control groups people who are undergoing medical procedures and they have uh one person undergoing procedure and they've got people praying certain kinds of prayer another one no prayer statistically the ones receiving the prayer

have less bleeding less swelling they heal faster and they're more successful for the same kinds of of surgery and and so scientists say huh isn't that interesting you know what a coincidence well this is how science will eventually if science is going to to be valid and remain relevant in our lives science has to come to terms with the fact that there's more to us than our physiological body number one what we're calling Divinity probably need to find a new word for it because the word Divinity has a lot of baggage I personally like the

word because what it means to me but our abilities to interact with the world around us and the world within us in positive ways at will on demand when we choose sets apart from every other form of life I I want to be clear there's some animals that do this by Instinct but they don't do it consciously they may know for example under certain conditions their bodies will begin to create a stronger immune response but if a lizard but the lizard didn't sit down and say oh I think I'm going to go to that rock

and I hope nobody's watching and it's safe and I'm going to you know go into this space and do that they're not doing it consciously on demand we're the only form life that can do that so I think all of this speaks to telling us that there's something so unique in the last podcast I use the terms and and I mean this something so sacred and rare and beautiful and precious that is available to us and we are still striving in this iteration of civilization to come to the full realization of what that means right

now we call it humanness what it means to be human and I I believe as I said in the last interview that it's vital that we come to that realization quickly because we're on the precipice we're about to give our humanness away to transhumanism machines synthetics AI chemicals that mimic our immune response but they don't mimic it as well as we create it in our own bodies we're about to give ourselves away to those things and this is the thing a lot of young people say okay well we'll just stop doing it and go back

to what we used to do you can't do that once you give that part of your humanness away once neurons believe they are no longer necessary because a computer chip is doing what the neurons used to do once other neurons that used to be used for creativity and Imagination and Innovation are entertained through a visor where everything is being done in an AI world for that person they're no longer engaged in the creative process they're observers and the part of their brain and their physiology physiology their emotions and their hormones that all respond to that

begin to atrophy and that happens pretty quickly in young people once we do that in a generation the Next Generation that information is passed on to what we call epigenetics once the epigenetics say oh maybe you don't need an immune system anymore because you're taking a shot every six months or something that that does that for you then your immune system says oh you don't need me anymore I won't do the the work that I've done for 200,000 years and I think this is really important we have been here at least 200,000 years and we're

the product our blood is the product of a chemical formula that has been honed and refined to serve us over those 200,000 years and I think the arrogance of the scientific Community to believe that somehow we can hack that for a specific purpose bypassing all of the other purposes that that immune system is set up to do I think that is a dangerous arrogance and it's only one example one example of where transhumanism I think threatens not only uh our species but our very existence if we are not aware of of what is is happening

and ultimately I'll tell you where I think this is going and we're seeing it this isn't in the future it's happening right now we are becoming two societies we're going to become two parallel societies there's going to be one group of us and some of them are my dear friends colleagues brothers and sisters and I'm watching this happen who are all in on everything on all the latest gadgets on all the technology and all the transhumanism everything that they can do to hack or tweak inject Place uh insert into their bodies in any way they're

all in on that and that is leading us to a hybrid a hybridization of our humanness we're no longer pure human posum is actually what Nick bom calls it the um the the futurist there's another segment of our society and I'll tell you where I see them is I I live in a rural community in Northern New Mexico when I'm not here doing what I'm doing with you right now I go to my little Co-op and this is where I see the people in my community most of them aren't having this conversation because they're struggling

to survive isn't economically depressed area many of them have multiple jobs they're trying to raise their kids they're trying to stay healthy and when I see them in the aisles and we'll talk for a minute and here's what they'll say to me they'll say Greg we don't know exactly what's happening but it's happening too fast and it's happening to us something is out of control we've got to slow down we have to go back to basics we have to go back to a more basic kind of life so what they're doing is they're growing their

own food and the stuff they can't grow they'll come to the co-op and they'll pick it up but they're saying we we need to grow our own food we don't know what's in the food that our kids are eating anymore they're taking their kids out of public schools because the kids are being taught things that don't serve them and actually harm them in terms of their development and the way that they are taught to navigate what it means to be a human an adult in the world they're saying we can do a better job we're

teaching our own kids about 40% estimates are about 40% of the young people in Northern New Mexico are are now no longer Public Schools uh they said we need to unplug from the technology and so they either limit or forbid their kids from being engaged and maybe they'll let them you know be on a computer for an hour after dinner or something but that's it uh so they don't know exactly what's happening but they have a sense that we need to go back to something more basic those two societies are developing right now and honestly

you can't make this stuff up this is like the theme of a very dystopian postapocalyptic science fiction film where you see the high-tech cities and people plugged into the grid and the AI that wakes them up in the morning and tells them what their blood pressure is and what their glucose levels are and what they're going to have for a meal then you see the people in the rural areas out on the farms growing their own food who've been ostracized from and forbidden to participate in the things that are in these these high-tech environments that's

happening it's not going to it's already happening and I think we're going to see even more and more until it won't last forever here's what'll happen in in my estimation I think we're going to do what humans always do we're going to check each other out and we're going to say who's happier who's healthier whose lives are more fulfilled who has a deeper relationship with their partners with whatever we believe our creator is I'm looking at a picture behind you right now as I'm as I'm saying this with God if you want to say that

and with the Earth who who is happier and the answer to that question who's happier healthier more fulfilled that will determine ultimately I think where we go as a species but I think we're going to go through we're in it the only way out of it is to go through it we're going to have to go through this separation of the tech the high-tech and the low Tech but even the low Tech once we embrace our humanness we are less complicated but more sophisticated than the high-tech because we are the technology we are the technology

that we're looking for that we're trying to build out there we are that technology and I I think that's ultimately where we're going I definitely also very much so see that dance between this our ancient intelligence versus this artificial intelligence and I also can very much so see These two factions or societies that are building I also believe that there can be a healthy synthesis of welcoming technology that can support us without neglecting the power and the intelligence of our biology and our humanness um I feel like I'm under that camp and where I want

to take this is because you were speaking to the the fact that all possibilities exist in the field as potential I have had many experiences I'm I'm sure you probably have as well with uh some key individuals throughout my life and throughout my path some psychics some monks that have been able to with Clarity of vision see things in me that I haven't been able to see myself or in the case of a couple psychics which I'm pretty skeptical around in general but were able to say things to me that no other human possibly would

know right so I'm like okay something's happening here they know you know they they couldn't Google any of this they don't know anybody that we've never met before they just know my name things that are happening internally things things about past ones mind-blowing you know and it just opens my mind up personally to like okay Consciousness is clearly much more vast than we've been led to believe and so I just want to speak into this field that that that we have the potential with our mind as an antenna to to select the vibration and the

frequency of what we want use the power of the heart to amplify that and bring forth things from the immaterial sure yeah we've got a future guest coming on who's going to talk about this my my dear spiritual brother of over 30 years my colleague and friend Bruce Lipton yeah talks about this the example he gives is he'll show a tuning fork and four glasses and one of those glasses is going to resonate to that tuning fork and it's the one that that will shatter and break that's how you know that there's a resonance there

we are those tuning works and we are whatever it is that the vibration that we're creating is a composite of our thoughts feelings emotions beliefs uh is what we are resonating with in in that field and we'll begin to see more of it maybe bring it into our lives what you just described is what makes intelligence agencies crazy because there are no secrets there's information that resides in a field and if we understand how to navigate that field that information is accessible this is what remote viewing is all about very very real remote viewing which

actually uh begins in the heart as well communicating with that field this was validated 1990 US military used remote viewing trained remote viewers to find scud missiles in the Iraqi desert without risking troops going in and losing their lives and the success rate was just phenomenal uh the science of remote viewing began at Stanford University uh officially I mean other people have been doing it obviously for centuries like Nostradamus but officially uh through the SRI Stanford Research Institute and remote viewing is only possible because of our ability to navigate our awareness in this soup this

Quantum soup that we call the field of of reality the things that the psychics see about you is if they're good psychics they are empaths and they are able to feel into those places they get to know you in just a few moments and once they tune in to to your Vibe your frequency then they can go into the field that matches that and that's where and they may not know consciously they may not say this is what I'm doing that's how it works and they can see there are no secrets they can see our

past they can see um potential Futures not re and that's always a little tricky yeah talking about super deterministic yeah talking about people's futures but they can see things in in the past uh and realities in the present moment that sometimes it's hard for us to see because we're in it when you're in it it's hard to see it when you're in it so as an as an observer they can see things sometimes and give insights that can be useful so this principle applied in our daily life like you said we have the potential capacity

I suppose at will to using our mirror neurons or Cub cubell neurons be able to match what we want and these neurons don't know the difference in many ways like you spoke to and many others about the difference of visualizing something or actually physically witnessing it and experiencing it why does that become an important realization when you decide what to feed yeah because you know the the science that really bore this out uh there were a series of scans brain scans we're getting really good at brain scans now real time and there was a a

classic example I show this in in our Live Events where they'll do the top left and right front and back scans of the brain of an individual same individual that is having an experience and you can see the part of the brain that light up during that experience so so the classic scan is the individual is reaching physically reaching with their hand for for a cup a glass and there's parts of the brains that light up everybody knows that no big deal no surprise then the next one the second scan is that same individual is

watching another person reach for a cup they're not doing it themselves the mirror neurons the cubell neurons and for anybody that's not familiar cubell neurons are neurons that fire when we have an experience and when we witness the experience all right so when they witness someone else lifting a cup that those neurons are firing off this is why we can sit on the couch in the Sunday afternoon watch a soccer game our heart's racing maybe we're perspiring we're excited but we're not even moving but our mirror neurons don't know the difference between witnessing the experience

and having the experience on that on that level just like before we were playing guitar and you were playing Watch the watch tower the watch tower on guitar and me witnessing you that were were lighting up my mirror neurons to be able to do so I love it I love it when that happens so the kicker now here here's where it gets really important is the third scan showed the same individual not reaching not watching someone else reach but imagining visualizing that they were reaching for the cup same parts of the brain lighted up the

reason this is important and this is what you asked is because the visualization can be with our eyes or can be in our mind and the way we think of ourselves and the way we see ourselves in the world is constantly feeding those mirror neurons we are programmed through media to feel sick to feel we are lacking and flawed and that we need something outside of our bodies I don't even have a TV at home but when I'm in a hotel if I turn on a hotel TV every commercial is a pharmaceutical commercial saying if

you have any of these symptoms well of course everybody's got some if you feel warm sometimes oh man I felt warm last night you know quick fact 75% of the advertising budget in the past few years was spent from the far pharmace and only a couple of companies in the pharmaceutical were doing it so so we're programmed to to feel sick fear what happen happens when we feed ourselves my brother Joe Joe and I Joe the spenza we toured together for years he's doing his own thing now it's a it's a whole different world Joe's

in he's coming back in here soon too when he does give my love so Greg sends his love yeah uh he's he's a good brother and Bruce as well Bruce Joe and I used to tour together Three Amigos Three Amigos years ago and we're not doing that now but um but our hearts are still there so he he talks about that was one of the ways that he healed his body was through that visualization process but it it's not just a fleeting image there's a skill and this is where coherence comes in once you create

the coherence in your body now we didn't really talk about this but this is why this is important if you try to solve your problems with your brain some problems are good to be solved with if you're an engineer building a space shuttle the brain is good you you want to use that but the brain we have a left and a right brain the function very differently the right brain more intuitive colors emotions Sensations left brain logic shapes um you know angles mathematics things like that the point is it's polarity if you try to solve

a problem in a relationship should I stay or should I go there's a song in there uh or a job you know should I stay or should I go or a health problem if you try to solve that through the polarity of the brain the brain will do what it does best it will answer you in polarity and polarity you're always going to have a right and a wrong and a good and a bad and a healed and a sick and a success and a failure and a worthy and a not worthy and the beauty

of the heart is the there is no left and right heart when it comes to to the energetics part of my Heritage is Cherokee Southeastern Cherokee and there's a word in Cherokee that does doesn't exist in the English language it's two words Shante Isa and Shante Isa means the single eye of the heart the eye that sees what is so if you want to know the the truth don't ask your heart unless you can can handle the truth as the saying goes can you handle the truth when you're in coherence go through those three steps

and you begin to ask your heart my heart you say the words my heart so there's no ambiguity about what you're asking you're asking this this network right here my heart what is the meaning of the dream that I was showing last night or what is the meaning uh what am I learning in this relationship that I'm in right now why is my body showing me this illness right now any anything and your heart will answer uh objectively and this is a really powerful too I was the youngest I I I was the youngest in

the boardroom when I worked in the defense industry during the Cold War years in the in the 80s and I would off often come in with ideas that were a little out of the box and I I'd take a hit I'd get a lot of criticism and I was just learning about coherence and if I didn't go into that coherent space I would tend to hear it as criticism uh and react in ways that I was sorry for after but if you can be in your heart in Co in a coherent space you still get

the criticism but you hear it more objectively and it doesn't have the same negative impact and it empowers you or me as an individual to be in our own power to listen to the criticism of others without a knee-jerk reaction and then maybe responding in a healthy constructive way but this is all the power of the human heart uh we're only beginning to understand in scientific terms whereas the monks and the nuns you know when I'm in Tibet uh the shaman in the Yucatan and the the healers uh the shaman in the um in the

an's mountains the Caro they use these techniques they don't talk about it as a scientist and they don't ask the same kinds of questions because those aren't important to them but the power of the heart if you watch A Healer or a Chandler anybody doing channeling what they'll always do is they'll close their eyes begin with a deep breath and that breath is Awakening the parasympathetic nervous system and often you'll see them touch their heart or they will go into into their heart to begin that process I love how you spoke to this idea of

you know Einstein has that quote of we can't solve a problem with the same level of Consciousness that created it I have a dear brother Peter Crow and we were in discussion the other day talking about how the mind has these fears it's a future-based proposition that it created it itself created a future that it is fearful of that same brain is then trying to reconcile the fear of a madeup future that it itself made up and we are in a prison of sorts in our own mind it's very cyclical and you're speaking to the

power of tapping into the heart coherence and the unification of the brain and the heart and the mind and the Heart well it'll break that cycle and I know a lot of our viewers they they call me they write to me people are dealing with overwhelming amounts of anxiety Panic uh nervousness fear sleeplessness a lot of different reasons but a lot of it boils down to anticipatory grief for for the loss of things that they haven't lost yet and this is an example of what you're talking about the brain creating based on all the information

we're being fed about how bad the world world is how bad our lives are how bad the economy is how bad I mean everything and The Logical outcome from that there is a grief we are we are in after the pandemic as a society we were never given the opportunity to mourn the loss and we all lost something many of us lost friends love I lost my mom during that time many of us lost friends and loved ones but even if you didn't lose a person we all lost a way of life and we all

lost freedoms and we've never been given the opportunity to mourn that loss it doesn't have to be a big outward expression just the acknowledgment that that something is different and that loss the inability or the lack of healing from that contributes to the anticipatory grief of what comes next so a lot of people and you look at the statistics uh Pharmaceuticals are I mean more people are anti-depressants and anti-anxiety drugs and and all these things and a perfect example of what you're saying is that based on the unresolved grief of our past and even if

the pandemic hadn't have happened we still had other things to grieve there is uh the brain our brains Collective brains are creating Futures that look very dark very fearful and we are feel like we're bumping up against that darkness and that fear with no way out and what our ancestors have always said and what the science now is saying may not be able to change what's happening in the world we definitely have 100% ability and I will use the word to control our response to the world that's happening and I think that's a big part

of what we're all learning right now yeah it just goes back to the Hermetic principle of as within so without and as we were speaking to the entanglement and everything earlier I love that quote from Wayne Dyer when you change the way you look at things the things you look at change and it's I think we're so caught in this time space reality and the future-based propositions we're trying to control things externally with the mind and the logic but you're speaking to a deeper knowing where you can actually collapse those things within your heart a

deeper knowing the wisdom that is born from your heart and take actions from that intuitive place instead absolutely absolutely and you know we've always heard Earth is a school and we haven't even had that conversation some of us have not everyone well the esoteric Traditions yeah you know actually the simulation Theory this was what really drew me into the simulation Theory because when you you look at a simulation the purpose of a simulation we use them all the time is to learn something in a relatively safe environment that you're going to need when you go

somewhere else then you look at the similarity look at the ancient traditions and how a simulation Works a simulation has a beginning and an end it has rules that you learn in the simulation and if you follow those rules this you are more successful in that simulation in a simulation you always have a way to connect with someone outside of the simulation for guidance so if you're in a a cockpit flight simulator or a lunar lander simulator whatever and you run into a problem you you pick up the headset and you say hey guys you

know I've got a reading here what what's it mean you look at what we're experiencing now we have our universe has a beginning it has an end our life has a beginning our life has an end every every indigenous tradition tells us this is a temporary world of Illusion the Hindus actually say the Maya the word Maya means illusion that we're here learning something that we're going to need in another world that we're going to and when we get into trouble we don't have a headset but we've got our hearts where we access something outside

of the dimensionality or outside the simulation for help higher self guides Angels past on ancestors whatever you God whatever you want to call it but the key is it all happens through the heart so in a very real sense the definition of ass simulation fits our lived experience and if you look at it from a spiritual perspective uh even even more so and I think this is you know again one of those places where science and spirituality come together in in in the useful way not that we judge what we've done in the past because

I think we've done the best we could do with what we know but now we know more and once you know it you cannot unknow it so you have to make a choice you either discount the new information you blow it off and and you say I don't believe it or you embrace it and you change your life in your belief system to accommodate the new information and I don't think there's right or wrong but I think that's up for everybody right now new information is flooding the field and we have to determine what we're

going to embrace and how we will change our lives based on that there's innumerable examples we could give that are breaking what the boundaries we thought were for human potential such as what we've been speaking to about the heart and the memory also precognition in this forn knowledge of events before they transpire sure very intriguing into what this potential simulation is made out of and then you know it really points to the possibility of realizing our superh humanness how we can live an extraordinary life and I mean it's maybe it's not just being superhuman it's

just being human without boundaries and realizing that so i' would love for you to share any thoughts there but I also want to dive a little bit deeper into we talked about trauma you touched on your personal Journey a little bit with your father I think that really translates also for our viewers as well how you've been able to in the memories that were stored in the neurites in your heart that live there that you know the pain that you had but you've gone to transform yourself in so many beautiful ways well I'm a work

in progress I don't think you ever uh the healing is a journey it's not a destination I think we've all heard that before I think we heal to the degree that we are capable of embodying the healing in a moment in time and this surprised a lot of people you know a lot of I know people who go to therapy and they go okay well you know that's healed and a couple years later it lights up again they said well damn I thought it was healed you know well it was healed at the level that

your awareness would allow that healing in the moment and now that you are a different person you have new experiences new relationships now you are available for a deeper and even deeper healing um Mike's I don't talk about a lot but it's not a secret we I am the product of a very dysfunctional abusive alcoholic family my father was the abuser of a younger brother four years younger uh he and my mom and I got the bad end of the of the alcoholism and uh my father left our family when I was 10 to my

great joy there was a freedom that came from him leaving on the one hand and on the other hand um it set in the path a search for me to recreate family uh because I had lost family so I entered into very adult situations at early in life in an attempt to recreate family um uh personal relationships business relationships I lied about my age my family we were more than broke we were living in government subsidized housing that I'm very grateful for um my mom had not been in the workforce because she'd been the stay-at-home

mom and there really wasn't any child support or alimony or anything like that so not not enough to to be of use so I lied about my age and went to work um in a factory uh illegally at the time making union wages it was good good money that I was making to contribute to the family and uh and all of that I think and actually left home at the age of 14 and moved in with my rock and roll band which is illegal now and and there was a whole process and a lot of

problems that came from that uh this was in the 60s and um and everybody in the band was a lot older I was 14 they were all in their 20s and 30s so it was an eyeopener for me in terms of what was possible in the world and I I was blessed Andre to have what I call a strong Soul Compass because I watched what was happening I didn't participate I didn't do the drugs I watched people's lives destroyed by the drugs and they're they're amazing gifts and talents these are musicians and Poets and they

just became worthless because the drugs destroyed their minds uh I became the designated everything but I was living with the band and they knew I didn't drink I didn't do any drugs so they'd take me along just to get them home safely and uh and I learned a lot you know during that time about uh about personal responsibility and um and I was uh reading uh on a search all of the at that time spirituality was all about like Edgar Casey and you know the many mansions books that that he wrote and there was one

book that has stayed with me the day my my dad left my mom came to me and she hand me a book and she said I'm I don't know how but I think this is this is going to be useful to you and the book was called The Prophet by uh a man a Lebanese poet his name was khil gabron and it's pretty deep uh each chapter was page couple of pages long but it was really really deep and the the one piece that stayed with me was he had a chapter on work and what

he said was work is love made visible and if you've ever communicated with me it's at the bottom of every email uh it's on books that I write and I think there's a of Truth in that um because I was surrounded with people that hated their jobs and the factory didn't like what they were doing they just needed the money and that's a perspective and I understand that it wasn't always Pleasant work but for example one of the the jobs I had was loading box cars with 50 lb bags of Purina um cat food and

dog food so each bag was 50 PBS and I worked nights so I worked uh I worked a night shift from 4:00 p.m. to 4:00 a.m. and then I'd go home sleep a couple hours do some homework and then go to school and the next day no time for a workout and I said you know what if I do this right those 50 PB bags man you can get you can get a good workout so I'd lift them one way and I'd do upper body and I'd lift him other way and and you know great

quads so I was getting paid I had a great workout you know I had a job and we had money for the family that was my love made visible the guy I was working with he hated this job and he would just do the bare minimum he had to do to get by and sometimes he wouldn't even do that and I I'd pick up the slack for him because it was our responsibility to load the Box Car uh but that was an example of those words work is love made visible I personally believe if we're

going to say yes work is our spiritual energy we're Spiritual Beings whatever we do is our spiritual energy manifesting in this world if I say yes to something like an interview with Andre I'm going to say yes a million percent I want to do a really good job I'm not going to say a half of a yes and do a half-ass job because I betrayed my truest nature if if I do that and I don't think I would have learned those lessons if my father had stayed uh because life would not have been as difficult

as it was so there's uh a lot a lot to that and it set me on a uh I've always had a strong Soul compass and I was reading the books that were available on spirituality because in ancient civilizations I began reading not long after that books by a man named David Hatcher childis who was hitchhiking across the world looking at ancient civilizations and now he's my friend we get I get to see him at conferences together and and you know he turned me on to Machu Picchu and the pyramids and the Sphinx and all

those things and and there was a strong link between the sites and the Traditions underlying those sites those spiritual principles and they all speak to our Divinity and our humanness and what we're capable of and what's possible what we've known in the past that maybe we've forgotten or what we're learning now that we've never known we've never known about ourselves at least in in recorded history so it all comes together I think in in a really beautiful way uh and it's not separate from I I don't see what I do is separate from what I

am and uh and the trauma from those experiences is something it could it still shows up and it's still you know it uh there's still a healing process that's that's going on one of the aspects of trauma every experience every emotion that we have creates a chemical in our body a chemical equivalent for every emotion and it's called a neuropeptide is what it is and when we have joyous experiences those neuropeptides metabolize they flow right out of the body no problem which is what they're designed to do when we have experiences that we don't have

the tools to address you know if you're three years old or five years old and you're an abusive family you don't have the tools at five years old but you still have those chemicals in your body so our bodies are so smart what happens is I'll just paraphrase the body says oh you don't have the tools right now so we're going to store this chemical for you we're going to park it in a place in the body and usually the chemical is parked in the organ or the tissue associ with the trauma so if it

is around uh a lot of hurt and suffering might be in the heart sexual trauma is in around sexual organs women it can be breast uterus men prostate issues uh but you don't know this consciously so your body says we're going to park these neuropeptides until you have the tools to heal uh and metabolize and the body doesn't know the difference between an hour after the trauma and 60 years after the trauma it's all there and this is why if we don't address those traumas then they can become inflammation in those organs just to get

our attention and if the inflammation is not acknowledged then it can become what we call disease all in an effort it's a very different way of looking at the body but all in an effort of of recognizing this dialogue this conversation we're in constant dialogue with our bodies if we have the wisdom to know what our bodies are saying and what the science is showing is rarely are our bodies ever broken what we see is disease is our bodies in the presence of what we've given the body to work with so when you begin to

think from that perspective then healing takes on a whole new meaning it's one of the reasons uh breath work is so powerful breath work is a powerful lubricant for those neuropeptides uh heartb brain coherence when you can create the coherence then the experience is present without the rightness or the wrongness or the goodness or the Badness or the guilt uh or the worthiness or the notor worthiness of the brain and that shift is enough to free those neuropeptides and allow them to metabolize in the body and and how you know they're metabolizing is they'll typically

metabolize through body fluids so you might feel uh like have a metallic taste in your mouth literally are Trace Metals metabolizing out of the when you work with breath work and you work with other people and you're close enough to them their breath will smell like metal smell like a tin can and that's one of the reasons your pee will smell funny you'll pass these through the urine will smell funny right after a breath work session uh tears perspiration uh any kind of of body fluids is how these neuropeptides will metabolize through the body and

I'm saying this because it's an ongoing healing it's an ongoing process so uh and it's something that we all have access to and heart brain coherent that I described is one of the very powerful tools that will take us to those deeper levels of healing when we're ready to go there that make sense if I say it that way yeah yeah we didn't know we were GNA I didn't know we're going to talk about this but yeah no it absolutely does and thank you so much for sharing your your story and there's just so much

power in that and the decision from what you would say maybe is your Soul's strong Compass but to even do work that you may not perceive is externally so actul in the world whether it's lifting heavy things but the difference between you and your coworker is it what you guys are doing the same thing but who you were being for yourself while you were doing it was completely different it it is I I just want to round out the story with my my father that leave any bad feelings um and also an invitation for people

to trust their intuition uh I didn't know my dad well after he left we talked rarely and he he didn't have an answering machine so if you wanted if I wanted to talk to him I would call him if he wasn't there I had no way to leave a message or and this before cell funds and uh in January of 2003 I took a group to India actually I came through this city through LA and we went through the John Bradley terminal in LAX I forgot I'm in La so this is where this story happened

maybe that's why it's with me so I checked the whole group in for India we had about 90 minutes before we boarded on a plane they went and I walked and maybe you know where this is I walked through this part of John Bradley terminal and there was a bank of pay telephones it's not there anymore a whole row of pay pay telephones and I was walking by there and honest to God it was like this force that wouldn't let me keep walking and I kept turning around thought what what the hell is going on

you know and I I went within briefly and I said whatat is this and I got the image of my dad and so I walked over to the pay phone I had quarters used to put them in and and I called my dad and he picked up the phone my father had he never called me son and that was a source of um of hurt for me there's a whole story behind that everybody else did my employees all my employers well son let me tell you this you know or my Southern friends hey son let

me tell you this you know but I didn't get it from my dad so I called my dad and I said I'm taking a group to India but when I get back in a couple of weeks my Publishers take me on a book tour through your city would you like to have dinner together and he said yes son I I would I would love to do that so I got home um in the we hours of the morning and there was a message from my brother that said call me and I called him and he

said dad's gone he died and I never had that dinner but the fact that I followed my intuition and picked up the phone and had my father call me son and we had that healing would never have happened if I had kept walking and denied that intuition and for me that was the healing it's everything was okay he called me son I got to hear it probably better than the dinner the dinner probably would have been a very quiet dinner I don't know what we we would have talked about uh but I think it's for

me it was an important it's important on a lot of levels but it was important confirmation for us all when you get the hit to communicate with someone follow follow the hit and when you want to tell someone you love them don't wait until the right moment just tell them when you feel like you need to tell them because the truth is we don't know we don't no and uh and so for me that was a beautiful completion to what my father and I had been through and I'm I'm sure on you know on a

karmic level there's a lot of other things going on and someday on the other side I get to check it out with him I guess when when the simulation times out we're on the other side I'll say what the hell was that all about you know but um but I want to follow up so people have a good feeling about uh you know about what happened in uh it was difficult but I'm not sorry for for the life that it led to so powerful thank you so much for sharing that I you know got chills

and just you know I'm glad you listened to your intuitive hit because I think many people have had similar experiences where they listen to it and got rewarded or some cases they didn't listen to it and they missed the precious opportunity y so yeah so powerful man the and that in that intuition the power of our heart where it pulls us in a certain direction where it's subtle often times Whispers to us into a certain direction it's so beautiful to listen to that and to strengthen the relationship to our ability to listen to that and

live our life from that place well it uh what the studies show this if someone pops into your mind your mind you're probably in theirs at the same time if you're thinking about somebody they're probably thinking about you as well this actually this just happened last night I um there is a a guy that I work with in another part of this country I hadn't heard from him since the new year he was on my mind packing for this trip I yesterday I traveled to La he was on my mind I got in my hotel

room last night and he left a um he left me a voice a voice message and I said Greg you've been on my mind all for the last couple days he goes I can't understand it but I'd love to talk to you call me when you get back so I will call him when I get back uh but I just had laugh I said well of course he called me because I've been on his mind and he's been on my mind you know and I think these things happen they are subtle and we often discount

those subtle experiences and I think part of our Mastery is in honing and refining those subtle experiences for example we go in to the heart to ask the heart a question many people will formulate the answer that they want in their mind rather than allowing the answer to come to them so I'm inviting our our community if if you're going to do these things or when you do these things when you ask your heart don't chase the answer and it will typically be present very quickly but if it's not don't chase it allow that answer

to come to you and there is a skill to learning to do that to learning to listen because not everyone not everyone's heart communicates with them in the same way I'm hesitating because of the length of time that we have here can I share a quick story yeah we were in a live event there were probably 1500 people in the room and you know when you're on the stage you really can't it's because the lights you can't see beyond the first row or two and I was on the stage and I could see there's a

woman on the first row and we had gone through some deep heart experiences people were sharing on the mics you know this happened that happened this happened and this woman was she was sitting there and she was like this she had furrowed eyebrows and from the stage I called her out and I said are you okay what's what's up she said me and I said yeah and she goes well nothing happened for me when I was in my heart and I said well how do you know she goes look look at what all these people

are saying I didn't get you know my ancestors didn't come to me and you know and my angels didn't come to me and I said well did anything happen at all and she says no and I said did you see anything in your mind's eye and she goes yeah saw a damn tree and I said well tell me about the tree and she says it was just just a tree and I said what did it look like was it the same she goes well sometimes it had leaves sometimes it didn't and I said when did

it have the leaves so we went back through and i' had asked a series of questions and it turned out that the leaves were on the tree when the answer was yes to the questions and when the answer was no it was a be tree I said just out of curiosity what's your profession she says I'm a gardener and I said there you go your life is in communion with plants with the plant kingdom I said you're not hearing about angels and ascended masters I said your tree is what you know your trees talking to

you green apparently for you is green leaves on the tree is yes it's an affirmative and who knows where it'll go no leaves is a no and I don't know how deep it goes after that she had never thought about that because she was comparing herself to everyone else rather than allowing her own experience to be present and I think it's important for all of us because we all communicate differently with this this field and her perceptual world was through the plant King Kingdom and once she heard that she had the big smile as the

best Workshop she ever had and I felt good I felt good because I I was drawn of all those people in the room I zeroed right in on her and uh not just because she was on the front row but I I could see her and I could feel that something was was going on so powerful I'm just reflecting on so much of the insights today we've been recording for almost four hours now and you know there's there's been a lot of really potent insights and Reflections for myself and the power of the heart the

intuition uh and I really love the analogy you gave of the who you are and what you're doing not being different and the work being made love you know work being love made visible in that way and how we can all strive to create that in our life and the pursuit of you know this service to others where oftentimes we're fed in a society that rewards service to self and um as we start to head towards closing out I'm just curious is what you think about the difference between the two how we can kind of

make our service to others and service to self collapse and be the same to where yeah yeah I think it is uh I think to the degree that we honor ourselves and become the best version of ourselves by virtue of doing that we create the best possible world now within that there are people of different constitutions for whatever reason who are compelled to serve in in different ways there lot of studies suggesting that DNA genetics some populations are more compelled to serve and be in public service and others are more behind the scenes or you

know under the radar but in the field it's all in the field and what I'd like to do is just leave our our family if I can call this our family it is our community but you're all my family with this that every time one of us has the wisdom to know that we have a choice and the courage to choose but that's not enough then the strength to follow through with that choice and become a better version of ourselves what we do is we build a bridge into that field that makes a little easier

for the next and a little easier for the next I think this is the beauty of what the the avatars the master Jesus this is what Jesus when Jesus walked this Earth and I've spent a lot of my life studying Jesus as a man his name was Yeshua not Jesus that was later on so Yeshua uh and his Mysteries there are 18 years they say that are missing well they're missing because the records of where and how he studied were taken out of the public view during those 18 years he journeyed into the highlands of

central China what we now know is Tibet and he's noted there the monks and the nuns they talk to me about him he's noted because he studied and mastered in one lifetime in just a few years what it would typically take someone an entire lifetime just there and then he left there and he went to India and he studied and mastered those traditions and he went into Egypt and the Osiris traditions and he studied and mastered those this is what why he was noted in those different traditions and then when he began to share what

he had learned and he lived it in his life he became a living bridge that makes it easier for others and he said this I mean he said if you're to believe the text he says you will do what I'm doing in in moris I'm paraphrasing but essentially what what I'm doing and more the oldest records of the New Testament were found uh in 1948 in what is called the nag hamadi Library um in Egypt discovered what just like 80 years ago or something yeah well the oldest records of the Old Testament were found a

few years earlier in the Dead Sea Scrolls and then the oldest records of the new I mean you can't make this up it's perfect symmetry the oldest records of the New Testament were found in Egypt in in nagadi I mean the story behind it there there aren't many trees and not much firewood in Egypt and a young bedwin boy was told by his mom go find some kindling so we can heat the house and have some food he was very um resourceful and he remembered that in an old tomb there were clay jars full of

Papyrus and he started bringing the Papyrus home and we don't know how many were burned and destroyed before the authorities found out and they preserved what was left it became known as the NOG hamadi Library it's controversial because it has records of the books that the Catholic Church omitted during the Council of nah in the 4th century when they created the biblical Cannon and it's because of that we now know like the women in the Bible the Gospel of Mary book one and book two and uh Thunder perfect mind which was written by uh a

female Gnostic it's very powerful Gospel of Thomas Gospel of Thomas is where I was going with this the Gospel of Thomas is 114 quotes that Thomas dimus described as he followed the master Thomas didus means Thomas the twin and there now is a a school of thought and a lot of controversy as to whether or not Jesus had a twin or who Thomas was the twin of well he had a brother yeah yeah so the the point in those 114 sayings is they may be the closest that we have to the actual words maybe more

so than than the traditional New Testament um in the Gospel of Thomas and he essentially Yeshua says you know what you're seeing me doing uh I'm laying the foundation so that you will do these things and and more so the point of and that's I think something we can all relate to so every time one of us chooses has the wisdom to recognize we have a choice we're not stuck now number two we're only defined by our past if we choose to be and I think that's the powerful lesson my father left for me I

have a younger brother four years younger same parents were like night and day if he were here we look different we think different his life has been very difficult uh because he he believed so many of the things that he heard about himself in that abusive relationship that weren't true his soul Compass led him in a different different path but I think that when we have those experiences we have to have the wisdom to recognize we have a choice the strength to make the choice but we can't stop there we've got to to be able

to follow it through and every time one of us does that in our lives we're creating a a bridge in the field for another person somewhere on the planet you may never know who that they are but energetically we make it a little easier for them to have that wisdom and the courage to choose and the strength to see it through and in that way I think we uplift one another in ways that we'll never know so if we looking for external validation you probably aren't going to find it but if we are striving to

become the best version of ourselves and hold ourselves accountable in a way that's kind and forgiving but honest and true that's I think how we as a global family it's how we love one another through our actions and how we help one another become the best versions of ourselves and when we do that that's how we create the best world possible I don't think we could ask any more of ourselves from from that other than than doing it in that way does that make sense if I say it that way it does yeah it's all

made great sense well thank you it's almost too much sense well maybe we'll do a part three at I'm sure there will be three four five you know this whole conversation part of it reminds me of that the saying that wisdom tells me I'm nothing love tells me I am everything and between the two my life flows and from simulation Theory to entanglement to the power of the heart um it's just weaving this tapestry of this conversation is so many potent reminders for myself first and foremost but I'm sure with the family that are tuning

in as well um um that gives a a reflection and a narrative into the truth of how powerful we we really are and so I just want to share two Reflections to you personally as we start to close out one's shallow one's deep which one do you want first well before you do that I I want to reiterate what you're saying it's that power yeah that is making it worthwhile for those forces to Veil our power from us to attempt to Veil our power by stealing our very humanness there is a battle for our humanness

because that is a conduit to our Divinity but we don't have to fight that battle we just live the truth of what it means to be human the best version of ourselves and we have triumphed over that battle and that's a very different way of thinking of combat against combat this is Transcendence leaving that darkness in the dust and I think that's precisely where we're going in this world right now so thank you for the opportunity to to share that yeah okay I'm ready wonderful just two quick things uh you want the shallow or the

Deep one oh man let's do the Deep one first and the shallow one we'll leave on on on the laughter I love that one of the lines from the Gospel of Thomas that we just mentioned was a saying whether or not it was Jesus will be to be yet to be fully seen or confirmed but one of them is if you bring forth what is within you what you bring forth will save you and if you do not bring forth what is within in you what you do not bring forth will destroy you exactly and

I see your life as such a powerful representation of bringing forth what is within you and the reflection I just want to share is that when we do that when we go on that path of bringing forth what is within us by you living in your Dharma and your purpose you give so many people the possibility to live in theirs and the reflection of theirs and so the ripples that your work has done and your Insight and really your heart most fundamentally uh is just the ripples are felt in the cosmos for all of eternity

so thank you for the work that you're W what you don't know is it's really good for me to hear that because it's been a tough few months uh a lot of loss and when you lose your parents it's uh especially your mom that you've come through well I'll have that experience you know at some point but it's it's uh mentally my manb brain thought I was ready for it but there's a part of me that just kicked my ass and uh and then I'm losing a lot of friends and uh and certainly we're all

losing a way of life so it's been a tough few months and it's really good for me to hear that and I I appreciate it very much very very much needed very healing so thank you for following your intuition to say that yeah thank you man and I can also just feel the emotion in your heart and behind your eyes about how much your family your parents and your mom meant to you and I'm not going to cry because I'm a cancerian mail if I cry my voice changes so so I'm not going to do

that but thank you cry cry cry um of course yeah I mean it just it feels it rings true and the shallow one was I saw in a comment that I thought was hilarious it looks said said that Greg's hair looks like he's constantly blowing his own mind I saw I saw that as well and somebody did an AI I just uh goty that I usually don't travel the day after a cut it was cut yesterday before I was traveling so not as much of it as there has been I'm just happy it's still there

it's a beautiful man and thank you thank you for that yeah well Wayne Dyer my brother Wayne Dyer before he left this world we were on a cruise ship together in the Caribbean and he very famously said you know he had a very beautiful shiny bald head and he said this bald head is a solar panel for a sex machine so that was a solar panel he was a sex machine and I said well I have a ball head but I said this Mane of hair these are highly refined micro antenna the higher dimensions of

of the state space that informed me every day of my life and we used to laugh about that a lot so so thank you for that I appreciate it yeah no it's it's uh just this whole conversation has been so fulfilling I have thoroughly loved the hours diving into these deep conversations with you so thank you for coming on our platform and and sharing yourself um fully 100% And just really committing to it with that full yes yeah well I want to take this opportunity to thank you for creating a platform because what you have

done is you are the Hub of a community and Community is even more important than we used to think after the lockdowns they moved the power of community to number two the first thing we all all need water certainly but we don't need food we can go days without food it's hard for us to go for days without human connection and a lot of people lost their lives discovering that for themselves so I want to thank you for the wisdom to recognize it was possible the courage to choose but that's not enough you had the

strength to follow it through you built a beautiful studio uh you're a dear brother a good man with a good heart and what you're doing is giving a home to people's Souls who are looking for somewhere to make sense in this crazy world that we live in and I'm honored to be a part of that today you've done a beautiful job so thank you my brother thank you so much Greg you're very welcome new brother was born today and I'm just looking forward for the many weavings to come thank you so much it means means

a lot and I feel it's the ultimate privilege and and honor to do what I can to help steuart and you know this this community that's building which is really beautiful to feel into as we started out in the very beginning of this conversation of the battle for a humanist um the beat of humanity is still well and alive and is very felt in this Collective Humanity that's coming together we will Triumph we are we just go through it and see it through so thank you I'm going I look forward to our next very much

absolutely very last thing uh anything that you have going on where people can find you what you'd like to share with our audience anything there I have taken some time off to work on a book that is a year overdue so there's not a lot going on right now I'm close to home I've got it's been nice Andre I am able to see the trees bloom in my community I'm usually out of out of the country during this time of year I'm able to see friends they have babies they have new homes they have parents

that are leaving this world and I've I've had the opportunity to be a little closer to home uh in a way that I haven't for almost 20 years so I'm enjoying that I will begin traveling mid year go to our website Greg bron.com and um I be August September October I'm I'm doing a lot of traveling domestically um North America domestically no no oceans between me and my home in 2024 so thank you for for the opportunity to share that thank you so much of course absolutely all right everyone thanks for coming on this journey

together of remembering who we are and what we're capable of and living our life with that courage and strength thank you so much for coming on this journey until next time be well w [Music]