Father Dan Reehil - Inside the Demonic World with an Exorcist | SRS #141

[Music] father Dan re Hill welcome to the show thank you Sean good to be here it's a pleasure to have you thank you it been uh as I said in the the EDC we've been really looking forward to this for a long time and um and uh so I'm I'm really excited to get started here thank you me too but um so what I'd like to do I got you for about 3 hours and uh I'd like to do life story get into the exorcism stuff and then uh I have I have uh some personal

questions I grew up Catholic kind of uh ventured away from not only the Catholic church but but um Christianity as a whole for quite a while and then recently I guess a little over a year ago uh I had a I had a very profound experience in um in Sedona uh Arizona of all places and uh where I felt like the the devil was trying to give me to surrender I'll just put it in short and then I had three incidences right off the bat right after that um where I felt like I shouldn't say

I felt I know God was speaking to me okay and um I don't want to go too in depth cuz we are are uh restricted on time but I would I would love to send that episode to you and um possibly have a conversation that later but but um anyways everybody gets a introduction here so father Dan reill you're currently a Catholic priest for a church based out of Columbia Tennessee right down the road from here as well as The Exorcist of the dicese of Nashville after graduating college you worked in global Church trade in

finance in Manhattan before entering the spiritual Brotherhood and then finally onto the priesthood you're the host of the podcast battle ready where you answer questions from callers about the spiritual realm in the Catholic katechis cisus sorry all right you have been on several podcasts and other news programs to discuss the dangers of demons in the modern world today and um so I am I am uh very very excited to dive into that one thing we have here is uh it's Sean Ryan Show we have a patreon it's a subscription account they've uh they're are top

supporters a lot of them have been with us since the very very beginning and um so one thing I like to do um is offer them an opportunity to ask each guest a question and there are there's some good ones here I'm uh I'm going to save some of them for later on in the interview but um this is from Al I love the quote you once said protect your mornings it's a very profound quote and I carry that with me every day how does one protect your morning well for me uh the day gets

away from me pretty quickly as it goes on the sun goes up and anything can happen you know uh somebody could be dying it happens quite often we have a hospital in uh Colombia so all the surrounding areas maybe 30 Mi out especially going south their people go there and at least once or twice a week somebody's dying and needs me to go right away to to give them the last rights um I don't do exorcism on demand but I will meet with somebody if they're suffering at least try to relieve some of the suffering

before I get them on a uh spiritual regimen and that could just they show up at the church randomly you never know when they're going to show up and then there's spiritual Direction appointments day in and day out and all sorts of other things so my morning when I say protected I go over to the church at 5:30 get up at 4:20 get over there by 5:30 and then I have uh exposition of the Blessed Sacrament until 8 o00 uh the last half hour I have confessions we do benediction uh then we have mass and

then I go on radio at 9 and that's till 9:30 and you know so the morning is set and usually nobody disrupts that prayer time in the morning so I I'm I know it's going to happen and and I need it I need it because it's not me that goes goes out into the day to help these people it's God and he works through me but it's his grace it's his power and uh if I don't get filled up on him I'm kind of worthless for the rest of the day and then I'm just really

a social worker thank you for answering that I have uh I have some some personal questions one of them is there's no there's not going to be a good time to ask this during the interview I don't think so I'm shoot I have so I told you I I had left the church and uh I'm I'm I'm new back into Christianity about a year same um trying to a little more than a year pick through the pick through the Bible and um and uh you know the one thing that and so we started a Bible

study at my house um and um it's it's four families we're very very very close uh to each other and and um and uh one of the the guy that leads it is a uh a former Pastor um who I think kind of got ran out cuz he said uh he said that pastors shouldn't be focused on money they should be focused on spreading the word and uh a lot of people around here didn't like that I guess so um so now he leads our thing and and the one thing that I think the thing

that resonates me with me the most out of what I've learned so far maybe not the most but it always sticks out of my head and I talk about it all the time is that the from what he says the church is not a brick-and mortar um building it is it is the living body of Believers in Jesus Christ and so that is something I never heard um growing up as a Catholic and so I just wanted to I wanted to see what you think about that that is very true if you think about the

church when Jesus uh chose these 12 men to go out and make disciples of all Nations uh when he ascended to heaven and they took up this Mission and it it was a big mission imagine and they're not particularly qualified either mostly fishermen uh they go forth but now they have the Holy Spirit because Pentecost has happened and they they're set Ablaze with the spirit The Same Spirit that led Jesus his whole 33 years is now in those men and it's now in us if we're baptized particularly if you got confirmed too you get sealed

with that Spirit Same Spirit and they go forth but there's also a persecution happening because the leaders of uh Jerusalem and you could even say in Rome and all over the world they don't want this new religion so if they catch you you die so the first I think 32 33 popes were all martyred so if they said to you we just elected you Pope it was a way of saying you're about to die because they're killing everybody and and now you're a public figure that says you're leading this new church and as such there

were no brick and mortar churches because how could you build a church it'd be the a big red flag here's where we worship come and kill us so for maybe 3 400 years there was no brick and morar church they were in people's homes but they were celebrating the mass the way that Jesus did at the Last Supper so they were taking the the bread and the wine praying the prayers of Consecration and turning it into his body and blood and that was what was sustaining them and that was giving them uh even The Graces

to die for Jesus and his cause this church that people would the blood of the martyrs is the kind of the seed that spurns on the church to go forward so yeah that's that's absolutely correct once you have Constantine come on the scene and basically took up Christianity as uh the the religion of of the of the um Kingdom and he put the cross on all the flag bearing the flags and the uh when he would go into battle then they knew they could build churches because the the king would protect them the the Roman

Emperor would protect them and that's when the churches got built and they've continued to build them ever since but you go into countries like uh in the Middle East that are Muslim there's still a lot of underground churches where where there's no it's just in people's homes because they know if we're discovered it could be a big problem is there there you another thing is uh I talk you talked about um my Megan Kelly podcast and uh some of the some of the the the things that we discussed in there and middleman that's where I'm

going good I'm a middleman did you know that I'm a middleman I did and no Priest No Eucharist okay no Priest No confession okay it' be terrible be terrible uh but if you want to go back to scripturally Moses was a huge middleman I mean it was he was constantly interceding for those people you know and and it was only by Moses's prayers that God was would relent and you know take them back into his his custody and his shelter of his protection but uh does God need him in a man of course not he

can do anything but what we've come to Lo and learn particularly through his son is that he's a family guy you know the very Trinity is its own family and he was perfect before he created anything and he was completely content didn't need to do anything but because he has this overwhelming magnificent overflowing love he wanted to create children and he wanted to build a stage for them that's the universe and he put everything under the domain of man everything was all under Adam and Eve and but Adam and Eve were made for God that

was his special creation this is the reason Lucifer rebelled because he heard of this plan and he was so disgusted that a person of the Trinity would take on human flesh which was considered much lower than the Angels humans because pure spirit is a lot higher uh Perfection and form than the material creation of a body that's why they rebelled yet Jesus went forth with this plan anyway and he does take on human flesh and when he ascended to the throne of God in heaven now there's a person with a human body sitting on the

throne of God and that's how much he loves us as people did you ever think about that like it's us there's one of us sitting on the throne now like he left as pure Spirit the word became flesh and dwelt Among Us he ascended back with a body which will ever forever be his body that's how much he loves us and so when I when I hear people I don't know why Jesus is so hated I don't know why he's so misunderstood I I I've prayed about this and pondered this for months and months and

months because he never did anything wrong like why is there so much hatred of this man and I think of well into two categories I think there's um ignorance or apathy and you know and I've asked people at conferences that I I go and do missions and I I would say do you know what the difference between ignorance and apathy and you know frequently there's always somebody goes I don't I don't know and I don't care and I'm like exactly that's the difference ignorance is I don't know and apathy is I don't care and I

think those two categories are growing more and more as the world is barreling towards this precipice of Hell uh more and more people say I'm I'm a nun I I I don't participate in religion and know any not not the sisters and they think that that protects them like I'm I'm good I'm not getting involved with this but Jesus told us if you're not with me you're against me so do you think that maybe um Jesus is so hated because Elites are threatened by by a higher power definitely it's one of the reasons I mean

I think if you look at the global religions of course and I'm not saying Muslims hate Jesus but they're gonna that what they do is they deny who he is MH they say he's a great prophet well he said he was the son of God so he's either a liar or he's God he can't be a great prophet because a great prophet doesn't lie but they haven't really thought it through the Jews are still waiting for the Return of the Messiah so they're also in a different kind of camp like well that's not our guy

but what if you miss the boat I mean the Temple's gone it's over what what are you waiting for like if you really thought about it you'd have to say maybe we did miss this I don't know when you talk about when you when you were just talk we were just talking about Adam and Eve and Lucifer and so before Adam and Eve where did where did all the where did the Angels come from from so we believe as Catholics that uh before the created matter of the universe the stuff that we can touch he

created all the angels in one single moment and aquinus writes a lot about this um and but he had to give them away to test their allegiance and so this plan of God with man was kind of in some way leaked or shown and that's when they said we we will not serve this cause a third of them we think we don't know it's it's not a science and there's no scriptural definition of how many but we know Lucifer fell for sure that's written in the in the Bible and he he took a there in

Revelation says he took a third of the stars with him and these these luminaries we would we assume to be the Angels incredibly intelligent incredibly powerful beings but they don't have bodies pure Spirit just like God then he creates all of us and we're kind of a hybrid because we're not pure matter but we're not pure Spirit we are both matter and spirit so we're unique in that way and in the way nothing else in creation is like us and uh as I mentioned he kind of if you think about all God did for us

you know he made us out of his love for us so in that just for that reason alone we kind of owe him something I mean he made me if you if you go and you create a vase you make this vase and put on a shelf like if the vase had a personality we'd have to say thank you for making me but you know it's a vase it doesn't know what to do do it has no mind but we know that we were made by something so just for that purpose alone we owe him

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devil so there's another reason we owe him right uh people don't like the word oh but Justice is real you know and you can't have a world without justice justice is giving the other person what they're do it's not a negative if if you say I'm going to sell my car for $5,000 here's the $5,000 you know you get the car justice has been served similarly if I rob a bank and get caught and the penalties 10 years in prison I go do the 10 years in prison Justice is served when it comes to God

giving God what he's du we can't do because we are incapable of giving back what he gave to us because it's so great it's we're not capable we're just not uh we're creatures that can't do the level of love that he's given to us and so religion by definition is the Justice we give back to God that's what we call religion it's part of the Justice virtue okay and it's just giving back what he wants and he was very clear how he wanted to be worshiped in the Old Testament and then when Jesus created the

New Covenant at the Last Supper he was very clear that this is how I Want You To Worship do this in memory of me and we've been doing it ever since now as I mentioned before you you came up uh do the interview to one of your your uh staff you know when it got established in the Old Testament he was very systematically clear about how he wanted to be worshiped there would be an altar a priest and a sacrifice and blood and then they would take the blood and sprinkle it on the altar they

would take the blood and sprinkle it on the people and this was the way he said we're going to do worship very messy I mean imagine when you go to mass they sprinkle the holy water on uh the Easter Vigil imagine if I'm sprinkling blood on people people you know it's incredible like you never would forget that every you'd be like wow that was intense and what kind of blood the animals blood BS goats Lambs oxen a lot of blood tons they would collect it in these bowls and half would go on the Altar and

half would get sprinkled over the the people why Blood why why blood from an animal because the Jews always believed the life was in the blood okay and they were offer this life as atonement they had no way to have sins forgiven but they they would at least follow the uh the regimen the lord gave them to do the worship and that was their way of obeying why do we have to obey why did God allow evil there had to be something in the garden that was forbidden from Adam and Eve in order that they

could show that out of love for God they would obey him that's the only way you can show you love somebody is by actually doing what they ask you to do if there was no rule at all how do you know how do you know if you're really going to step up and love him it's the same with like your kids if you say them please don't do this this and this primarily because it would be bad for you and it could hurt you but also respect your mom and dad don't do that and then

they don't do it because they love you and and that's how you know they're they're actually uh giving you the respect that you deserve so that's why God put that tree in the center of the garden and said do not touch or eat of that fruit they could have everything else and there was no work back then everything grew on its own everything was perfect they walked with God every afternoon in the Breezy time of the day uh but the deception of the devil was first of all he starts talking to Eve and he goes

did God really say you cannot eat of any fruit in the garden so he twists what God Said and she goes no he didn't say any he said just the TR that fruit and then the serpent goes oh no surely you will not die your eyes will be open you will be like God so now e for the first time and she's completely happy up to this point she has no wants in her life she thinks now suddenly God's holding out on her that there's something that's going to make her more happy if she gets

it and he tricks her and she gets her to he the serpent gets her to eat it and she gives something to Adam he eats it and then their eyes are open they realize they've committed the worst possible sin they could have do and it drags all of us down but God doesn't despair there there's no he has a plan it's a rescue mission you'd be familiar with rescue missions this was the greatest rescue mission of all time when Jesus is going to come into the world and he's going to take down the devil on

a different kind of tree on a cross so where the first sin entered the world from a tree now Redemption comes to a tree where Eve fell the Blessed Mother brings forth the new plan by saying yes to God and allowing the per second person Trinity to become incarnate in her womb and so you can see the parallels of like these first parents and now this new the new Adam and the new Eve is married and Jesus thank you you're welcome just a little bit ago you had mentioned we were talking about the middleman and

you were talk you had mentioned without without the priests there is no Eucharist and there is no confession yeah so from what I've learned we've already been forgiven MH and that was that was part of Jesus on the cross we've all been forgiven and so is it it can I not ask for forgiveness in my own home you can what is the difference will you actually know you've been forgiven that's the difference and we are set free through baptism from being under the domain of Satan he Le he's a he's like a lawyer he's a

legalist and he knows where his boundaries extend and where they stop the minute we're baptized this is why I tell parents all the time please don't wait for ant Sally to fly in in three months for the baptism just baptize the kid right away because that restores that person back to God and out from under Satan's foot literally stepping on the person's neck and they have them by chains and that legally they own the person until that kid's baptized or the adult once you're baptized we're we're completely set free as you mentioned uh until we

sin again and then if we commit another mortal sin we go right back under the domain of Satan and we're we're trapped until we get forgiven which we know if you go to a priest and the priest absolves you that has taken place and you're Now set free again and any demons that are attached to you are broken off you and you can feel the heaviness lift the church also states that you can have perfect Contrition for your sins which would also bring forth an Absolution of your sin but to have perfect Contrition means you

have no attachment to sin anymore very difficult to do very difficult to measure and so I'm always like it's not that hard just go to confession in my church it's always Anonymous I'm in one room you're in another there's a screen between us I can't see you I can hear you but I don't know who you are so it really is more like God's doing it through his priest the other reason that the church says we need to do this is because when we sin it's not just against God it's against it as witness by

Adam and Eve who dragged us all into this with them so through the priest we're actually getting absolved by God but also um there's coming an Absolution of sorts you could say or a forgiveness that's also coming from Humanity in the person of the priest oh God you know in the first centuries uh after the churches started being built um confessions were public they were public they didn't go stand on the steps of the church church and confess your sins to the priest in front of the whole community and then he absolved you I mean

a lot harder clearly wow just think about that there's people that would say I'm just not going to confession yeah because I don't want the people knowing I did this you know yeah but so it's not it really isn't as bad as people make it out to be it's a simple thing it's for your own benefit and I as uh the beneficiary of this Sacrament as well I was away 22 years and when I went to that confession and he absolved me of 22 years of really deep-seated horrible salty sins I felt like a new

person like I can't even describe how much you're just like wow like that's a real thing it's not just a formula with a matter and form like I am new and a lot of people you see out there including in the media when you have mortal sin on your soul it's literally a blockage to God's grace and you can't really see true for what it is and this is I believe why there's such an attack on truth right now is because I think a lot of these people believe what they're saying but it's so twisted

and distorted that a lot of us just looking and go how can you think you can assign your own gender yeah like it's it doesn't even make sense yeah but they really when you listen to them I think they really believe it and that's like when Paul's speaking to the Galatians this is what my opinion is and he says oh stupid Galatians who has Bewitched you what has happened to you like I feel like we could say that about America right right now oh stupid Americans who's Bewitched you what's going on here yeah like wake

up yeah I'm with you on that I am 100% with you when it when we're talking about Adam and Eve and the the forbidden fruit what let me give you some more context I have found a tremendous amount of healing from psychedelics and very controversial subject within within Christianity Catholicism uh probably anybody who has some type of a religious background and I have really good friends of mine that advise against it I have really good friends of mine that are 100% in on it I've had nothing bad um come to me from it praise God

I've quit drinking uh 100% clean from alcohol for over two and a half years now uh going on three and and and a whole slew of other things but I'm I'm interested I've heard that the forbidden fruit may have been psychedelics is there any validity to that never heard that and there's no mention anywhere of what the fruit was so okay that's somebody's conjecture and idea okay what is your do you feel that a lot of people also say that psychedelics will open you up to a to a spiritual realm where demons can can it

kind of like opens you up where demons can get in if you're not careful what what I'm just curious have you do you have any thoughts on that or is that a is that a topic of I know drugs in general are a big open door for Spirits mhm bad spirits one of my worst cases of possession was a a Catholic guy young guy maybe 25ish up in Nashville he's out drinking the bars are closing and he says to his buddies let's go get some drugs and the guy goes oh I know a place so

they go to this house in a neighborhood at like 2: in the morning think about this you're knocking on somebody's door at 2: in the morning like you got to be thinking this is a little crazy who does that and they open the door they come in and it's lit by candle and there's upside down crucifixes and pentagrams around on the walls and I said to this young man you know when he's I'm interviewing I go like what happened to your Spidey senses like nothing went off when you saw this stuff he's like I just

wanted the drugs so he gets some I think it was crack as soon as he smoked it he felt the demon enter him and that was the beginning of about a six-month ordeal to get it out and he knows it happened from the drug cuz the drug probably had a curse on it interesting to attach demons to it so so uh if you're buying well I I use it I I would have said years ago if you're buying stuff off the street you don't know what you're getting truly both in the natural and Supernatural what

I would add today is some of these pharmaceutical stuff same thing yeah you don't know what you're getting I mean I don't I don't know though is it is it I mean is it is it is it really considered a drug I mean because America's put that stipulation on it or is it a medicine that is that comes from nature and so if it is if it is a medicine that comes from nature that people are finding healing from yeah I don't understand that is from God correct I mean there's no there's no additives there's

no chemicals there's no none of that that's that's being injected in it it is it is simply was it I believe it was it the was it the rean administration I I I think it was the Reagan Administration maybe that that kind of Ian Nixon I'm I'm off on this but a president basically um there was because of the hippie movement and the abuse it was re they they I mean they they scheduled it as a is a some type of a drug or narcotic but I mean coming out with all the research I'm going

too heavy into this it's helping a lot of people and so I'm I'm I'm curious what what what your thoughts are on that I it's it's kind of out of my realm okay I'm not an expert on on drug use we do have a priest in the dases who wrote his dissertation on marijuana so he he might be a better one to talk about that but you know I think in general the fear is that if if particularly the youth who they don't have a lot of restrictions in their thinking yet uh the danger is

are they just going to go in too quick and too hard and damage themselves you know if you're a 40-year-old man who is using this under self-imposed set of uh guidelines and you know you're monitoring what you're doing and you're careful completely different than a kid just taking a bunch of pills and hoping something good happens MH makes sense makes sense all right well let's get into your story now now that I got uh at least a couple of my random questions answered but before we do everybody gets a gift I got the gift thank

you that was the other gift the other gift what do we have here those are a vigilance League gummy bears made in the US there's nothing weird in them it's just candy candy yeah and then um thank you you're welcome and then uh you know downstairs you had asked we we were talking about rosaries and I told you I still have mine um so I have a really good friend his name's Dom Razzo and uh he is a he's a former seal uh SEAL Team Six guy and has been a a good friend of me

and a spiritual mentor of mine and uh a very devout Catholic and so I I bring this with me everywhere I go uh to protect me and uh good good good and every time and then I give him away and then I have to call Dom until him send me another one but this is a warriors's rosary okay and I would love for you to have thank you thank you buddy now I gave you a rosary today you did so you you have one back um like mine the one I gave you is from this

place called migori in Bosnia herova and that Rosary was in the room during The Apparition of our Lady to one of The Visionaries and at the end of The Apparition she blessed all of the sacramentals in the room so the rosary that I gave for you and your wife have both been blessed not just by me with the pries blessing but by the mother of God herself blessed those rosaries don't give those away I won't thank you very much I'll carry that with me everywhere good thank you all right father so let's get to let's

get to your life story where did you grow up Long Island New York uh willston Park it's about 18 miles east of Manhattan brothers sisters I'm the oldest of four and two years after me is my sister and then two years after hers my middle brother Jimmy and then my little brother Brian uh it was almost 10 years after me were you did you grow up in a devout Catholic Family uh yes you there was I there really was no devout Catholic in 1965 because Vatican 2 did such a number on removing the uh the

awe and the Splendor of God from the mass sort of uh and I don't know they did it on purpose but it definitely was a byproduct where there a lot of felt and a lot of Jesus loves me and really no firm catechesis in what what actually is our role as Catholics as Christians baptized and what does God want from us and what does he expect from us and you know was just love God and do whatever you want was kind of the message so but my parents were good Catholics we went to mass every

Sunday uh they prayed the rosary they they were I remember my what the first time I recognized my dad kneeling at Mass like it's a powerful image to see your father kneeling when he was a New York City fire chief a big tough guy so you know to see him kneel made an impression on me has the church come back around in many ways yes okay yeah Pope Benedict opened the door to allow uh the uh sacrifice of the mass that took place up to Vatican 2 which is the extraordinary form they call it now

which is in Latin where you the priest says is back to the people but it it it brings forth a greater reverence in the mass uh for a number of reasons but we don't need to go into that but also um a lot of the priests who were leaning towards the more liberal side of the spectrum and who were lobbying for women priests who were lobbying for married priests who were lobbying for all these things gay you know gay marriage uh they pretty much run their cycle and they're about over and the new priest the

young guys are going back to the traditional principles of the faith and and it's the Orthodoxy that never left but it was really put under the carpet and hidden away for about 40 50 years interesting interesting so was that was that was that taught and now it's expiring or is it just how things the liberal principles yes the well the church is definitive on its teaching and it it always has been the there can only be men priests because they follow what Jesus did he chose 12 men there were priestesses in other Pagan religions at

that time so it wasn't off the table he could have done that his mother is the holiest person that was ever created who's not Divine she would have been the best priest if you were going to allow anybody because she's perfect I mean she had no sin in her but he chose no these will be these 12 so that's never going to change can priest be married they sure can we know Peter had a wife he had a mother-in-law so he had to have a wife uh and we've had married priest for you know probably

four or five centuries in the church but after a while it became an issue for raising Families how do you raise a family if you're just going to keep picking up people and moving them and they don't own the land the church owns the land and how do we distribute the property and all it became a big headache and for many other reasons the church just said we want the priest to be focused on his flock specifically and that's why we're going to impose on him this uh promise of celibacy is there any I mean

is there any within the church on that especially in the in the in the priesthood I I don't see it I mean that so in the church there's the god imposed uh rules or laws and then there's man imposed okay the man imposed ones can be changed and that's not a problem uh the ones that God set forth we we are Untouchable we can't change those things uh it was through the popes where they decided to embrace celibacy rather than marriage so that can be changed back with no problem Pope has the authority to do

that and in fact when we have other priests coming in from other religions um you know there's a guy named Dwight long Necker father long Necker was I think Episcopalian and he had a family but he realized I want to be part of the Catholic faith I think this is where the truth resides the most when we took him into the church uh the vatic the holy sea declared that he would be ordained a priest even though he already has a wife and kids and he'd have to make special Provisions to provide for them but

that's fine because Peter you know we have examples throughout history where it happened so that can be changed but you can't change the things that God set forth that cannot be changed okay makes sense like the fasting before Mass it used to be Vatican 2 from midnight till you went to mass no food just water and then the church said uh you know there's people passing out in masses a lot maybe we should make a 1 hour fast last before and now that's what it is okay cuz that was a man-made thing gotcha gotcha back

to Childhood yeah what kind of stuff were you into as a kid I was because I was the first born and the and didn't know anything I was pretty naive about everything uh rode my bike played kickball uh baseball I swam on the swim team you know played football when I peee football then in in high school uh mostly just Sports and we went outside all day when it was summer you just left for the whole day you came back for dinner and you prayed with all the kids on your block it was just different

it was completely different than it is now were you interested in Catholicism as a child or was it more of a chore uh it was never a chore I went to church with my family and you know we could actually walk to church we were that close to the church a few blocks but uh as fate would have it I was molested by a priest when I was 11 and that changed my trajectory for a long time I just said I'm never going back to that place to a church and I kind of stuck to

it and I kept it hidden till until I was in college and then I told my parents what had happened and then it started to make sense because I changed dramatically as you can imagine your personality would when it's Soul crushing to be uh sexually abused by anybody but when it's uh a representative of God's Church you it just spins way out of control the Devil comes right in and starts telling you God hates you he he never cared about you your parents hate you was every possible lie and and you don't know what to

believe so I kind of spun out of control I'm pretty headstrong and have a strong will and I just decided this is I'm no one's going to hurt me like that again uh joined the football team lifted a ton of weights for a long time to become as big as I could and then thinking that would be you know I'll be strong enough where I can defend and once you become a man you you kind of don't have to worry about those sort of things but uh can we rewind yeah how did that happen this

priest uh claimed he was you know kind of doing spiritual Retreats for the Middle School guys and with three of us he took on a retreat overnight we get there he's got beer and you know we weren't even into beer it's like we're at an age where it's like what are you doing and um that night he ass he actually assaulted me but I was I woke up to him on top of me and you know was not pleasant and you held that in all the way until College yeah yeah so did you continue to

did you have to continue to go to that same church no I didn't go I never went I stopped and I would just tell my parents I'm walking to church I'm going to my I'm going to this mass by and then I would go hang out of the parking lot or the playground and I did this you know I went to Catholic Education my whole life grammar school high school college was even Catholic but I did not go to church I didn't participate in any of the sacraments what did that I mean how did you

how did you overcome that as a as a I mean there's so many kids out there even just on the show we've un I would say 50% of the guests or more have been through some type of a some type of sexual trauma as a child and so for for all the kids that are listening or or who are who are going to go through that who are going through it who have been through it how how how did you get over that I'm not the best example because what I did is not the right

way to go I just shut down God and his church I kind of went my own way I rebelled I became a really bad kid you know my parents didn't know what was going on but they knew something is wrong but back then nobody even dreamed this was a possibility you know this is we're talking the 70s um so uh they just kept grounding me because I was always out partying and drinking and having fun with the crazy kids and you know college might took it out of there where I just get away from this

whole thing but that's where I finally went into it and and realized this has to be dealt with you can't just go through life like this and I kind of just looked at it objectively like I guess bad things happen to people who don't deserve them it happens all the time I guess I'm a victim of that but I'm not going to let that you know be the guiding force in my life like it's an event but it doesn't have to be the the the force that's going to shape and mold you so like live

your life already but I was living my life without God and that's the first mistake don't throw God out when something bad happens it's not his fault you can't blame God for his cheap labor so I would say if if you're a kid and something bad has happened to you uh tell your parents regardless of how embarrassing it was or how shameful it was or whatever they got to get involved because the only way you're going to get quick help is when they know something has happened now if your parent is the pro the part

of the problem you know if they're abusing you then you have to get help from somebody else to go to a teacher how do you feel that the Catholic Church deals with with this I mean it is it has been a reoccurring yeah problem within the within the church uh again I'm not probably the most inform but probably more than the lay people um I think a lot of good Provisions have been put into place to stop this um but my own case I was one of 17 from the same priest of 17 so that

could have been prevented long ago before I was even you know on the horizon there uh the Bishops kept moving him and that's what happens you know so I blame the Bishops you know they could have prevented this uh and I'm not going to make any excuse from at all because like one kid is enough to say no we're not going to let that happen again uh but right here in Franklin I mean there was just a priest removed a few months ago so it it's still not completely over yeah and you got to go

back to the seminaries and say you got to have better detection systems when somebody is open to this sort of uh sexual behavior there has to be a way to screen it there has to be when I was first coming when I first came back to the faith I found a priest in New York who I really liked he was a Franciscan frer the renewal father Benedict Rochelle he also was a psychiatrist and he told me he'd interviewed probably a thousand priests who did these things to kids in usually in prison and what he noticed

with all of them is they had stopped praying he would just say when did you stop praying your office the briefy we have it's the one prayer we have to pray every day we don't have to say Mass every day but we have to pray this set of prayers it's the only promise we take is to do that and obedience to our Bishop and they would also say how did you know and he said because I've been interviewing people the you guys for years now and it's just it's the common denominator now that doesn't take

away the problem if somebody has an inherent problem that they're attracted to Children uh even praying is not going to be enough I don't think but you can see that that was a factor they gave up praying and they basically threw in the town and they gave into the desires but there has to be a model that you can be screening in seminary to figure out I mean they I have to believe they know they have this desire we know what we want we know what attracts us what makes us you know get aroused uh

and if that's you for the sake of the kingdom of God and for your own soul admit it and get out of there and get help like that has to be an option that they give on day one if this is something you're attracted to we want to help you but you cannot be ordained do you do you think this was actually a patreon question I I didn't want to I didn't want to kick the interview off that heavy um but do you think that if priests were allowed if they were allowed to marry do

you think that uh could do you think this would solve a a greater portion of the problem no no they're not interested with sex with women clearly I mean that's not what they're looking for yeah and no one's going to put themselves into a marriage and and look at the poor woman in a marriage that's a roost that's just a a shield the woman's going to know pretty quickly he's not interested in me he never wants to sleep with me so like what is he looking for then that's what they were looking for Wow wow

well thank you for sharing that I'm I'm sorry that happened that's kind of an interesting path because when I finally did get the full healing from this thing and that came when I got into religious life um and the Lord uses me to bring healing to others you know when I first heard God calling me to be a priest my first reaction was why would you ask me to do that where were you when you heard this well the first time somebody said I think you a Vish priest I was in magori I had just

done my 22-year confession with a priest uh and he absolved me and I felt amazing and then he says I think you have a vocation to be a priest and I was like what did you not just listen to that confession clearly I'm not called to be a priest you know it was a wild days of Wall Street and he's like no all things are possible with God but I was just like no you're the priest is a little bit Looney Tunes uh and then I but when I started uh I came back to New

York City I had to get my life in order because you know the conversion is one thing but now you have to implement it part of that was I had to get rid of the bad influence inuences in my life I had a lot of bad friends who were not good influences you know big with the cocaine big with the partying had to go and I joined the Wall Street young Catholic Association to make new friends with guys that were trying to live virtuous lives big 180 just by putting the right people around you and

just they lift you up so hold on so how how crazy did it get on Wall Street with you it the life is crazy I'm just gonna leave it at that because I don't want to scandalize the the faithful but you know you living in the biggest city in the world with everything available and you're making a ton of money you can fill in the blanks and then I started working for a public relations firm where I was working with both New York corporations big ones City Corb Chase fizer uh but also the celebrity route

so Jennifer Lopez was a client Tommy Hilfiger uh Rolling Stone magazines photographer Mark seliger and he was introducing me to people like Brad Pitt and Jerry sein felt at his parties and there's just you know there's no end to the craziness that goes on in a lot of these circles okay not saying any of these people were doing that but the lifestyle is there if you want it so yeah you have to I had to make big decisions on weeding all that stuff out and just working towards a virtuous life which would bring forth the

peace that I was really looking for it's just peace a piece where I just felt good about my life and I wasn't always anxious or angry or just full of all these negative emotions so here I am uh the Lord when he asked me he said listen you know I'm going to use you to bring healing and reparation to people who've been hurt I was like oh well that's all right that's kind of an interesting twist now I would today looking back I could say well that should be every priest it shouldn't just be a

special case you know because you got abused but he was going into that deeper for the abused victims too and I would find myself in the most ridiculous positions uh I speaking at a prison to you know 500 murderers and rapists who by the way probably 80% of them were sexually abused as kids and they went into drugs and then they went into getting the money for those drugs and got involved in all sorts of bad things where I'm preaching to them my story and telling them that God has a plan for their life too

and I'm watching these big huge skin head murderers and there's just tears coming down because they've never heard this no one's ever told them that one God loves them that two he has a plan to rescue them and get them free again and that he's never stopped loving them like they've never heard this like whoa okay so this is going on for quite a bit of time I'm now older I'm sitting in the chapel one day praying and the Lord says to me can I ask you a question and I'm like okay but you've never

asked me if you want to ask me a question before what is this about you if he wants to ask question you just ask it he goes I want you to remember this I don't want you to ever forget it so if I could take you back to being 10 years old before you were abused and let you live your life going forward that way knowing what you know now and knowing that I've healed you completely completely and knowing how much I'm I've used you ready to help people you're not even ordained would you change

your life and I had to think about it and I was like no I'm good because I don't have any of the baggage I don't have any of the pain but I'm seeing how you're using me to help other people and if this is just the tip of the iceberg then let's go forward but it was such an amazing moment where you you realize he really can bring goodness out of anything if you let him if you're willing to be healed and do the work and go forward is this is this a when God asked

you that question how how did it I mean how did it was it in your head was it yeah I can hear his voice in my mind he spoke to me once outside my head but that only happened once in my life what was that like I had been so I got back to New York City after this conversion and and this priest became my spiritual director and he Saidi want you to start praying every day if the Lord wants you to do something different with your life so every day I would just pray Lord

uh if you want me to do something different my life please tell me and I'm open to it and this went on for 18 months and so finally on November 5th of 2000 I just went up to receive communion it was early in the morning there's really no people around me and I sat down on my Pew and I Heard a Voice audibly say come follow me and I turned around there's nobody there and I I was like oh it's you you know it's been 18 months this is the first time you've spoken to me

by the way and I go sure I'm going to follow you I don't know where we're going but I'm going to follow you let's let's go do this and that was the only time I've heard that voice right outside and then in on the inside inside your head like what we were just talking it's just clear as a Bel to me I I just know when he's speaking I know it's him this just happened to me actually a week ago I was I'm fting a mission in Cleveland but it's 80 miles outside of was it

Cleveland or Pittsburgh it was Pittsburgh 80 miles outside of Pittsburgh and the mass was at 8:00 a.m. and my flight's at 10:43 and I'm like this is going to be tight and the priest that I'm doing the mission for says maybe you should go at like 7:45 and just miss the mass just to be sure and I'm like no I feel like if if I believe the most important thing that happens on the planet every day is the Mass I want to I'm going to go to mass and we'll see what happens so Mass ends

at 8:30 we jump in the car we we head out and it starts raining and I'm like uh because I hate the airport it's one of the biggest near occasions of Temptation I have is to get so angry at the airport so I'm just kind of like okay what is going on here so it's very clear we're going to get there very late and so I start thinking I should probably be rescheduling my flight but looking something later and I hear the voice say do you trust me and I know it's him and I'm like

you know I trust you but there like there's a practical side of life too like you know if I roll up and the plane's gone obviously I'm going to miss it he goes do you trust me I go yeah he goes put your phone away I'm like okay so I'm not going to do the phone thing we pull up at 10:30 on the dot at the curb I have to go in to the airport up two escalators get through security get on a train that takes you over to where the terminal is and then get

to my gate which is like number 43c or something and I'm just like impossible this is never going to happen I'm already doubting and I get up there and I have clear but there was like 10 peoplee of me and you know they go every other it takes forever and this TSA lady grab and goes just come over here father she takes me the tea I said I don't have to take my shoes off I don't take the belt I don't have to do anything she throws my bags on a belt there's nobody in this

Lane at all and she goes just walk through the thing go and I'm like what is happening here and I walk out grab my bags I go the shuttle doors are waiting open there's nobody on the train but me and normally they wait for like five minutes to you know fill up a little I get on and they shut and they go zooming to the other end of the terminal doors open and it gets drops me out at like gate 25 so I'm already just like two gates away and I get there and it's like

10:40 I have 3 minutes and the gate is empty there's nobody there and there's not even American rep and I'm like H just missed it and the door opens to the flight path to the plane and it's American guy he goes hey he's here hold the plane and he rushes me down the little gang plank onto the plane I sit in my seat and we take off 10 minutes from gate wow from the curb to the gate through security the train impossible wow possible wow yeah when he does stuff like that I'm I shouldn't get

amazed but I do get amazed I'm like what I even took a picture of my watch and I texted it to the priest that dropped me off because he he was apologizing he's just like I'm so sorry you missed your flight and I had a picture of me inside the plane I'm like I'm on the plane he's like what wow what do you think about reoccurring numbers like 444 happens to you all the time what is that for I don't know for sure but for me when I see a triple it's always Trinity so I

just do a glory B Every time I see the three numbers glory be to the father and to the son and to the Holy Spirit as it was in the beginning is now and ever shall be World Without End just give God glory so I would get to the point where like you know at like 5:55 I'm like okay I'm off the hook now for like 12 hours because there's no there's no 666 on our clocks you know clearly so and then I'd start singing on the microwave where I'd look over at the microwaves going

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had this profound experience came home started making phone calls uh one of them was to this guy Eddie Penney uh who's also been um there for me uh when I need spiritual advice and I had a chat with him at night about and he was talking about Guardian he he was basically saying he said now that you've chosen a side things are going to start happening and um not necessarily good things and uh he said that you'll be attacked and the very next morning I had a a conversation with with a gentleman that works for

me his name's Adam um all very um devout Catholic had the exact same conversation again uh and when when I I looked at my it just all these things happened that that conversation with Adam happened at noon I went home for lunch I looked at my clock on the way back to the studio it said 444 I looked at the odometer you know the uh you have this much this many you have 444 miles left until empty and this happened 4 hours and 44 minutes after my conversation with Adam and so I was like what's

going on um got here to the the studio Googled it it said we want you to know that you're Guardian Angels it 444 means they want somebody wants you know your guardian angels are are are watching over you at at this specific time and in those two conversations prior to that were about guardian angels and it just I was like whoa well all Pistons should be firing because today is the Feast of the Guardian Angels what uh say again today octob October 2nd in the church is the feast day of the Guardian Angels it's the

day the church honors the guardian angels October 2nd wow yeah wow that's one out of 365 wow wow you just man that's um I know there are no coincidences so so I don't know if you ever heard this but like uh Tim TBO remember when he was uh playing in college he put the the 316 under his eyes mhm for John 316 and of course um the uh NCAA said you can't do that no religious monikers on your person and he was you know okay I'll be obedient to the league and then three years later

to the day he was playing I think a playoff game for Denver was he with Denver I don't know I don't remember but anyway his publicist comes up to at the end of the game and it's on it's on he has a video of it's It's amazing he's like do you know what today is he's like uh whatever the date is he's like no but it's more than that this is the three- year anniversary of when you put John 316 on your eyes and let me just tell you what happened and there were like a

dozen stats on that game every one of them was 316 wow like he had 31 point six yards in passing he had EV it was all over the game everywhere rushing and like what this is involving two major teams that you can't orchestrate this yeah and that's how God just gives you a wink like I I'm in control here I know what's going on and I'm thankful you did that for me and that day it was the most Googled thing uh for I think for the week was John 3:16 on the three-year anniversary wow yeah

yeah I I love I just I always feel like that's a sign that's God's just saying hey I've got you yeah don't worry like he it's he's playing chess with like a one-year-old and he's 400 moves ahead it's insane you can't even like map it out how he does it I I love it when it happens me too I love it when it happens but um but you it sounds like you had some how do I say this some very unique kind of scary events happen in New York well um there were also signs so

I had this spiritual director at Our Lady of Victory Church it's on Chase Plaza of all names uh and when he was directing me he said you know first he said you're going to need a director and I go why he goes I can just tell like you're going to need a director I go is that you he's like yeah I'll do it so just come back next Friday we'll start this he's the one that got me started asking the Lord if I want to do something different with my life and and he said I

just want to make you aware because you came out of such of a dark place where you really were like one foot in Hell another on a banana peel and the devil's probably very angry that you got snatched back out of his clutches so just be aware he's going to be coming for you and when you hear that s you're just kind of like what are you talking about like cuz I don't know so one day uh I'm kind of getting tired of my job even though it was a good job the public relations job

and it was getting more and more difficult Hillary Clinton was running for uh Senator and she wanted us to handle part of that campaign and I was like at this point I'm just like uh I don't really know if I want to represent these people anymore that we we have as clients you know just for my own personal reasons and uh so one of the problems with entertaining these kind of people is it's a big party life right so you go out for dinner and it goes for forever and this drinking and drinking and drinking

and I just was getting worn down and I said to the priest I said you know I'm getting it's like having a foot in both wordss I can't do it anymore I feel like I got to get out of this and he says well just stop the drinking just stop the drinking for a month when you go to the restaur go ahead of time and tell the waitress when I order this just make it you know if it's going to be Jack and Coke just do Coke for my order and don't tell anybody and I

go okay I can do that and I walk out of the church and standing at the front of the door like 3 feet back from the door the church is this very very very handsome guy in this amazing like you could tell it was like a customade suit and the everything he looked like walked off a magazine uh but he's just standing there that's kind of unusual because New York is like always people are moving there's nobody just standing around alone staring at the church doors so I made a note of them walk past them

and I start going towards my office and he comes up next to me and grabs me by the arm which right again nobody does that because you'll get punched in the face so you don't grab people and I'm like what are you doing get get away from me and he goes let's get a drink it's like 10:30 11 in the morning and I'm like what I go get away from me and I switched directions and then headed home cuz home was only like two blocks away I get to my uh building I go through the

doors so I look back and he's just laughing at me just like mocking me and he leaves and then I run back to the church and I get the hold of the mon Senor and I go let me tell you what just happened and he goes well I told you he's not happy with you and he's going to make a play for you just be on guard and I'm like okay well you didn't GNA you didn't tell me he was going to be like creepy stuff like this like you know that was weird he heard

our conversation even though he wasn't in the church he's like yeah he has a lot of power but like God's power is bigger don't worry all right so that ended now I am a seminarian and I was on break and my old boss and myself decide to go down to Miami and visit one of our friends who used to be at City Bank with me on Wall Street and is now working the Latin American market for I I think private banking or something and she sets the whole day up we're going to have uh kind

of a brunch at this place called Nikki Beach which is again one of these very exclusive service fancy places um we go we sit down we order and the two ladies are looking over my shoulder and they're noticing this this guy they like oh my gosh this guy's so handsome look at him he's amazing and I'm not really paying attention until he starts walking over to our table and then one of them says oh my gosh he's coming over here and I turn around and look and it's him same guy are you serious same guy

now he's in a bathing suit even better looking than in a suit and I'm like only the devil would have the perfect body right and he goes to me what are you doing here I thought you were going to be a priest this is my territory and the girls L literally the hair goes up on their back and they're freaked out back of their neck and one of them grabs the bill says we have to leave right now and we go to leave and he just again started laughing at me with the same mocking laugh

like you know I'm watching you you know I can see what you're doing probably shouldn't have been there but lesson learned uh you know now when I encounter him he's inside people he's not he doesn't take a physical form like those two other times what went through your head that second time as soon as you realized I knew I shouldn't have been there like this isn't a place for a seminarian you know there was more than just drinking going on they had little Cabanas where people were coupling up and doing things and you know all

the basic Capital sent are happening yeah yeah so fool me once shame on me wow interesting very interesting when did when did I mean how did you get into exorcisms well that's interesting too you know after 911 I moved up to Boston and I went up staying with the priest for about nine months and he did Deliverance Ministry in fact the very first weekend I arrived and and I didn't know him that well but I'm out of luck I have no job now and now I have no place to live because I was you know

I was so close they closed everything under Canal Street so there was no power there was no gas there was no electricity and so basically everyone was told go find a place to live for at least six months because this isn't going to be up and running anytime soon so this priest invited me up to Boston I said I'll go I go up there and he was amazing but he had this ministry so my first weekend there he has this woman in his Chapel in in the rectory who's slithering across the floor like a snake

and foaming at the mouth and her eyes are rolled back in her head and he's doing all these prayers and then he looks at his watch and he says okay I'm going to go celebrate Mass I'll be back in an hour just stay with her and I'm like what this is my first introduction to this life he leaves she looks up at me and she's got this weird look in her eyes and she's got the foam coming out of her mouth and I'm like oh hell no and I get out of there and I lock

her inside and I sat outside and waited for him to come back well he comes back and he's like what are you doing what are you what happened to the lady I go no she's in there but I'm not staying in there with her I mean are you crazy you left me alone with her and he's like oh okay I sometimes forget for the people who haven't been around this it's a little jarring I'm like a little jarring look at her she looks like a snake so that was my introduction initially and then for nine

months he would do this with people and I got more comfortable in being in the room with him like how many times in 9 months probably one or one or two a month one or two a month yep yeah then I went into religious life and my Superior was an exorcist the excess of Omaha so now I'm in the room because they usually took the guys who were a little bit bigger to restrain the victim uh and I got five years of that and then when I got to Nash pH the bishop knew I was

doing that for the religious community and he says you know I want you to do that here for my dases can you do the Deliverance but he says I'm not going to make your an exus because I feel like that's too big a burden on one priest I said okay and then he died God Rest his soul Bishop Joby and then the new bishop comes in and I don't have his authority because he hasn't given it to me so as the priests are calling me for help I keep referring them to him I said I

got to have he has to give me the authority I don't do this without being under his protection and so he finally connects with me he says you know why do these priests keep asking for you I said I was doing the Deliverance for the dicese but when Bishop chobby died I no longer had the authority so it's up to you he said Are You The Exorcist I said no uh he didn't want any particular priest to be an exorcist he thought it was too big a burden and he says I don't know I'm kind

of I kind of feel like you're fighting with your hands tied behind your back like I think you should be become The Exorcist So he sends me to Rome and I get trained and then I come back and begin as The Exorcist what does that training consist of it's intense it's like uh how does it start I mean is there an introduction welcome to exorcism School y it's it was for like two weeks 6 days a week 7 in the morning to 700 at night what is the introduction what do they what do they say

well this is kind of going to be the syllabus and protocol for what we're going to go into there's probably about six or seven different fields you know biblical practicums uh the devil in Hollywood the devil in media the devil you know Harry Potter had its own class uh Harry Potter oh yeah so uh you get finished up they they pair you with a mentor who's been doing this a while and mine Mentor was in Indianapolis and so I met with him on a kind of regular basis and he took me through some of his

cases and I watched him do actual exorcisms and then you know eventually get your first case that you you do it and uh I'll never forget it it was in Murphy's burough hold on hold on before before we get there how how long is the school it's like two weeks two weeks it's 10 they they put it like two months into two weeks is it is it book workk is it practical it's everything yeah we actually have case studies of actual exorcisms that have been performed uh what happened what you should do what you shouldn't

do that class was the best class don't do this what what do so if the if the victim vomits up anything including it could be vomit it could be small frogs it could be nails do not touch them they cursed objects until you uh Liberate the objects from the demon and the curses and then you can clean them up I'm like I'm not touching anybody's vomit period I don't care if you're a demon possessed or not like that's not my thing you know I'd be like could someone come in and help me clean this up

but then knowing that this could actually you know you touch it then suddenly you're covered in boils like it's a whole level of of uh care and attention to dealing with possessed objects do they talk about how it happens how does one get possessed oh yeah of course 100% and the two biggest ways are dabbling in the occult and what does that mean uh playing with demonic things Ouija boards going to a psychic tarot cards or actual occult worship of the devil those are pretty much immediate open doors that you're going to have demons come

right in psychics are demonic yeah they're not they're not channeling your dead relatives so right now we have at least three guardian angels in the room there's also probably demons in this room and they're listening and they hear every bit of what we're saying excuse me and um when somebody says well the psychic told me my mother shared this with me when I was 10 and nobody ever knew that but us so it has to be my mom except for the demons in the room who also heard it and now they're impersonating your mother if

your mother's in heaven she's having a good day she doesn't want to come back and visit you as much as mothers love their children if she's in purgatory she needs our prayers to get her moved into heaven and if she's in Hell there's no getting out it's not your mother wow they can put up a good show and it's very you know they can also Place thoughts in our minds and they can manipulate our emotions and when you have that Trifecta the person is 100% believes it's their mother interesting and so so how would so

if you're a psychic and I'm getting a reading from you how does how does the transmission happen well they're they're in touch with a demon that's they may even think it really is a relative but I think most of them know that there's a power they're G they're tapping into that is dark and they're not going to share that with you in fact some of them will put Christian statues in the room you know Sacred Heart is over here or Lady of f is over here just to like lower the anxiety level of the person

coming in because a lot of people have heard it's really not a good thing MH but they get desperate you know when people are desperate or in fear they do things they wouldn't normally do so like after the Civil War um these uh charlatans came up with these talking boards that they were going around and visiting all the the widows saying I can contact your dead husband the soldier who died if you you know can pay me this amount we can do it with this talking board and they made a lot of money off of

these poor widows and then that eventually became what was being known as the Ouija board which was bought by Hasbro uh Toy Company and they're based in Salem Massachusetts the capital of Witchcraft and they have Consultants who went into the development of these boards that became Ouija boards and that they are the first to say that they asked the board what its name is and it said Ouija which means nothing and the first year they went to market the number one board game was Monopoly and that year Ouija boards outsold Monopoly by a million boards

so it was embraced by the culture like Fast mhm and it and it's opening a portal right into hell interesting how else can the transmission happen well that's I mean that's pretty much it I mean for mediums you mean no no no no I'm sorry to become possessed uh sexual vices drugs I mentioned the drugs um but one mortal sin is enough to open the door I've never seen a kid from one mortal sin cuz it's easy to commit a mortal sin you know if you miss Mass on Sunday that's a mortal sin but perpetual

and habitual mortal sin it is definitely a door opener so if you're you know a married man who's continually having Affairs and a womanizer and cheating that can be an open door where suddenly their personality will change and the wife will know something's wrong she's not even picking up on the affair she's picking up on now this guy is carrying around these these fall spirits that are changing his personality he's becoming more Angry he's uh more judgmental he's more rotten and she just thinks I must be doing something wrong I don't know what happened to

our marriage is there any validity I've I've talked to as I mentioned I talked to uh uh a lot of the people that have been on the show have been sexually assaulted women have been raped uh um there's been a lot of discussion about that that that kind of those kind of traumatic experiences on this show and and and I've talked to a lot of people that think that demons are kind of passed on through sexual trauma through rape through molestation is is there any validity to that that you know of passed on is not

the right word uh the person doing the raping can have demons and probably does there's a a def defection there that they've allowed something and that's now causing them to hurt people obviously it's not natural but then the person who gets abused uh I wouldn't say those demons are going over to that person what happens is the person in trauma um has a giant wound that needs to be healed and in every exorcism in every Deliverance the other side of the coin is healing there's always a hurt that is occurring with the the deliverance and

the healing has to happen before the demon can be cast out and so if the person never gets the healing they can go in through that wound and manifest themselves within that person they don't like to be disembodied and so they get into the person through the wound the person can be very angry what happened legitimately can be angry at God legitimately but if there's never a forgiveness or a healing that's where they really Nestle in and take take up house so it's not the same demon that caused the rape it's a new set well

good that makes sense let's move one more question how are people selected or are they selected to be possessed for possession H again that's like there's no science that we can just say this happens all the time or that happens all the time um I think if someone too much curiosity can be a bad thing curiosity is not a virtue so there's people that spend hours a day on YouTube just digging deeper into darkness and occult and black masses and uh desecration of the Eucharist and all these horrible things and again the demons can inflame

our passions and put thoughts in our head that can twist things so we are thinking one thing I had one guy who was possessed he went on YouTube and tried to open his third eye through a video felt the demon go into him through the YouTube video no disrespect to YouTube but that's what he did his name is John I worked with him for two years and we never got him fully liberated so obviously with the Advent of our culture we all have a phone in our hand now with access to both good and evil

you know the phone's neutral but you can use it for bad things and you can get into bad things with it uh I would say the reason uh three times our lady so back to magori magori is this place where she's been appearing to these six kids since 1981 so 43 years every day the Blessed Mother appears to at least three of these children three of them have all 10 Secrets they only see her once a year and we don't need to get into the mechanics of all that but at least three of them are

seeing her every day for 43 years that something is happening like if go if heaven is trying to uh alert the the world that there's a problem like never before and she said on three occasions in these messages that she gives to the world uh sin is at an all-time high this is the most evil generation since the Inception of man worse than the flood worse than Sodom and Gomorrah now and I think part of that has to do with the fact that we can instantly communicate with everybody around the world and we are propagating

sin in a way we never used to if you wanted to have a sexual sin you had to go do it with somebody but now we can just open a phone and do things on the phone uh and Los Angeles is California but mostly Los Angeles number one exporter of pornography to the whole world something like 65% of its all made in California we should be not only ashamed of that statistic As Americans but fearful for the kind of things that they're opening up to the country with that kind of Filth with the Demonic world

and then you look at the rest of Hollywood and how there's a lot of other problem I just saw Nicole Kidman has a new movie coming out who alleges to be Catholic uh they almost gave it an x- rating and in our day and age imagine that so they had to cut stuff to get it down to R but she has a preoccupation it's having an affair but also preoccupation with uh sex with animals so we're going to a whole new level and this is a mainstream film that teenagers are going to watch and maybe

get hooked into something even darker okay that this is my issue with Hollywood do do not tell me you're Catholic and then produce that such filth and drag other people into your mess and then come to church on Sunday and sitting in the Pew excuse me it's not okay we put up with it with politicians for long enough but the Hollywood has to be held accountable too like they're hurting the kids they're hurting them they're opening these doors to horrible things that they should never see very very bad we'll we'll dive into that deeper in

a little bit let's let's move into let's move into Murphy's Boro your first one okay so uh Mexican girl probably I think probably early 30s she actually did have a a strong prayer life at one point uh we never could determine the actual reason we think it was fear that she had a fear uh that was so big that it was consuming her life and and rather than her trust in God she gave into this fear and that we think could be the door that opened the the to these demons so the Pastor happened to

be a very good priest and he wanted to be pres for the eism so he was in the room with me he had just ordered an enormous like 8 foot replica of uh our lady Guadalupe painting that was in this it was kind of like a storage room but we couldn't do it in the church because there were people in the church and it would have you don't do that you don't first of all you don't publicly put somebody through an exorcism where they can it can be seen by bystanders but also it'd be very

uh could be frightening to the people who don't know that's happening so we're in this private room it's my first time so I I hope I know what I'm doing right I go through the whole right I follow the protocols exactly uh she's on the floor literally struggling I mean she's sweating she's her body's being contorted she's screaming she's in pain we're hearing guttural voices of men that are coming out of her so I know they're also uncomfortable so it's it's in a way it's working except we get to the end of the right where

we start doing prayers of Thanksgiving and I'm like I look at the priest I'm like obviously she's not liberated what what do you mean the right so there's a right of exorcism it's a it's an exact uh formulation of specific prayers in a specific order to deliver the person from the demon it's not random in Deliverance prayers like can kind of uh I don't want to say wing it but you know I can just pray from the heart and say Lord you know in the name of Jesus I I all spirits of anger and rage

off this person and I cast them to Jesus for him to deal with them but in the right first well the right has to be done by an exodus only it can't can't just be any priest has to be delegated by the bishop uh there's protocols to put into place for the protection of the person like a phys physical exam beforehand to make sure that they're healthy enough to undergo it also a psychological battery that's about a day long how do you give a health exam to somebody that's possessed whose body is contorted well they

send them to the doctor I don't do that I'm not a doctor and the demon isn't manifesting all the time so some of them I had a woman right now who she was working at a Nissan plant by day and then at night she would manifest at home when she's around her her husband but it it it backed off during the day I guess they hadn't gotten to the point where they wanted to completely harass her but now she's in a psych woard cuz they started acting up at work and then the boss said what's

wrong with you I think you need psychological help and they recommended she go and she checked into a psych wward she's not going to get delivered in the psyb so I said to the pastor you know what do you want me to do because she's obviously exhausted it's been over an hour of this torture and I said we can stop or I can keep going and he goes I don't want to have to go through this again and I don't think she does either let's just keep going and get it over with now both of

us were kind of naive thinking that we can determine when this is going to end so I start praying and praying and praying again and then all of a sudden I have this thought you know the painting is right behind her this enormous Guadalupe and I say to her I go look to your mother and ask for her help and she turns her head and she looks at the painting and she's she in Spanish she screams at please mother help me set me free from this thing and then she went into massive convulsions where it

was a little frightening we didn't know what was happening to her like is she dying and then she's like what what what do you mean what did it look like like a massive seizure flash yeah her whole body is flaing and screaming and like it's obvious she's it's not her because it's coming off the floor it's like and both of us are like a little freaked out the other priest and I and then all a sudden it ends and she just lies there and I'm like At first I'm like thinking is she breathing and then

I could see her chest moving I'm like okay she's alive and then she opened her eyes and she was back and she's completely set free and like I look at the priest I'm like holy cow like had we known we could have like opened with that like look to your mother and ask for her help like but what do we know I mean I didn't know anything but that's how it happened it wasn't through the right of eism it was from her petitioning our lady what is her response who who's the girl when it's gone

oh she's thrilled she's so happy I mean is it IM is it is it immediately like yeah she knows she's free do they know they're possessed yes is it emotional is it an emotional experience at the end uh yes because she was so grateful she was set free I mean she's crying but she's happy she's smiling um she's covered in sweat head to toe I mean just the most grueling session you can imagine is when they're tormenting the victim physically and they're contorting their body and they're twisting body parts around and it's painful it's painful

to watch too is it emotional for you when it's over uh when it's over no I'm kind of relieved but when it's happening there's a fine line where I can start getting so angry at the demon that it actually will work against the exorcism because now I'm channeling like unhealthy anger which isn't good so I have to really remain in check like don't get I can't get violently angry at this thing and start screaming at it because then I'm now I'm working in his Camp that's a fine line to toe where does the demon go

don't know I mean when we actually are casting things out we send them to the defeated Jesus for him to do what he wants with but I mean maybe the last place they want to go is back to hell because they will be horribly uh I want to say tortured but tortured by by the devil because they failed their mission is Hell an actual place or are or is hell a realm that surrounds us uh well the world's looking more like hell but I think hell is a place but again you know right now it's

so Souls that would be in hell it's not physical bodies but they experience the spirit can experience more pain than the flesh this is something a lot of people don't understand so their torment is worse than what we would experience in this life life and so too on the flip side Heaven is so much better than this life that people can't imagine so when people die and come back they often don't want to come back but the the Lord's like no you got to go back because like it's just so amazing I've had uh people

tell me like there's smells we haven't smelled here good smells there's colors we haven't seen yet there's flowers that uh seem to have their own like Vitality in life they move and and that's all in the glory of God the best description was um a person said to me heaven is real life the way that a real person is versus the person's Shadow so if you see someone's shadow on the sidewalk that's this life one-dimensional gray that's life on Earth and then the the whole Vitality of a human being would be the comparison to heaven

versus The Shadow so that's big it's huge mhm mhm let's move into um some of the other exorcisms that that just really were a challenge or stand out to you uh the the only time I've been physically attacked was once again it was another woman who was manifesting a snake on the floor crawling play like a serpent I have a guy with me who's supposed to be my bodyguard and uh are are the are the bodyguards other priests no they can be but in this case it wasn't okay this was another Spanish person who didn't

speak English so I needed a translator as well so I had this gentleman from the Spanish Community who is a good guy and at one point she as I'm doing my prayers and she's slithering across the floor she her head flies back like that and she's staring at me and she's sort of got like the Snake Eyes which are like I think uh vertical instead of like ours are this way and there slits and they're yellow and I just kind of looked at her and I immediately thought this isn't good something is happening and she

flew off the floor without get using her hands and her feet and was immediately in front of me and grabbed my stole so I have a stole on which is a piece of fabric that goes around my neck and she starts choking me and she's not a big girl she's like maybe 120 PBS but she has a grip that I can't break so I start looking over to him and I'm like come on and he looks at me he's like no and I'm like are you kidding me this is your one job and he's like

I'm not coming in so I just then focused and I said in the name of Jesus stop and she fell back on the floor and went back to her slithering and I backed up a few feet and continued but that was that's the one and only time I've been physically attacked how much fear do you feel when when when you're doing these none uh because I my attitude is if God is giving me this ministry to help his people he's going to show up and why would he allow them to hurt me unless it's for

my own education and learning like sometimes you learn by mistake so that can like that case like I don't know what I did wrong I think I didn't vet the guy in the room with me enough maybe the Lord was trying to tell me you got to pick these people a little care more careful I don't know I'm friends with a priest who had two 300 lb men uh in the room with him and again it was a woman and she reached over and with one hand lifted one of the guys between his legs and

threw him 10 yards with one hand 300 lb wow yeah think about that so it's not the person's strength it's clearly Supernatural when you get called to perform an exorcism I mean what is the how does it how does it happen is it 911 call when I first started I kind of had such a a a pity for these people such a sorrow for what they're going through that I would drop everything and just that became you know come today we'll help you now having said that we never do exorcisms at night in the middle

of the Woods at somebody's home which is like what the movies would have you think it's in the church usually in the chapel uh at my discretion and during the day when there's daylight you know we're going to tip the scale in my favor my territory but what I was doing was I was getting so caught up in these cases and they were just coming in faster and faster and I was just spinning my wheels so I eventually talk to my mentor and he goes oh no no no no no no he's gonna wear you

out just by sending you fake cases and cases that aren't even real and people that are just there they'll just tie your time up and make you a big bag of exhaustion get on a process so the process is somebody makes contact with me saying I think I have a possessed person or I am a possessed person I say okay give me your email I'm going to send you a spiritual intake for him complete it and send it back to me step one now sometimes the person is in such a state they can't do that

and I'm fine let your mother do it let your brother do it let somebody in your family do it then I look at it and I put them on a Prayer protocol if they're Catholic I want them to come in and go to confession if they're not Catholic we will have other things we can do for them and we start get them praying and putting an order into their life because they're severely disordered like at this point most of them don't have a job relationships have folded uh they're sitting in their basement just all day

long like having their heads spin with all these crazy thoughts now we're going to put order back order is from God the demons don't like order and so just by putting a routine in their life a lot of times so the demons start to back off and then if they're doing the prayers as they as I ask them to and then if they're can go to confession if they're Catholic uh maybe 50% of the time that breaks whatever was with them off them and they're fine the ones that need more help uh then they come

into me for an initial meeting on you know what we're going to do for them and I'll try doing Deliverance prayers without the right of exorcism and if that helps them and usually it does then they're kind of set free but they have to reconnect to God and this is the point that lot of people don't want to do I don't want to go back to church it's it's not my thing okay but the person delivering you is Jesus it's I'm just standing there in Persona if you're telling me you don't want to connect with

him then I'm not going to do the ministry because they're going to leave and come back worse when you don't reconnect with God because you're no longer under his umbrella protection if you're going to hang out over here and you don't come under his umbrella I'm not doing the ministry cuz they're just going to whack you even harder when they come back so we're done some of them will then say okay I'll go back but they don't and then I get another phone call in a month it's worse I go I told you it would

be worse you didn't listen are you serious now yes I'm serious I'm going to go back to church okay go back and then call me and then we'll start because it's not magic it's relationship he's got the power like I said in the beginning like we want to be his best friend he wants to be our best friend like what a what a great deal like the author of Salvation wants to be your best friend the one who has all the power this is the strong man Jesus like why wouldn't you want to be his

friend and when we are his friend we're protected you know he kind of keeps things at Bay and away from us until we until we go out straying and looking for those things ourselves so that's a hard thing for people to understand I had a woman who was so physically crippled by these spirits she was hunched over like an old lady she I'm not ready to go back to church all right good luck call me when you're ready another six months she calls she's practically you know can't even move she's so debilitated so me and

another Exorcist went with me to her home uh since I already had met with her I kind of knew she was had a real problem we brought a witness with us as well a woman it's always a woman if it's a woman who needs help and and I do the prayers and she's completely set free and she stands up and she's fully erect as a normal person she's not hunched over anymore her countenance is back like she looks like she's peaceful happy smiling her eyes are bright like it's a different person and I'm like how

many years ago we should have been done doing this and you waited but thank God you you finally did it but it can be all consuming yeah it sounds like it I mean how do you determine how do you determine if it's a possession or if it's a mental health issue well the code of canal is I have to have moral certitude it's kind of a vague statement so if they have Supernatural strength we know that's one so if I see somebody you know if I see somebody throw a 300 lb man with one hand

I'm like that's not her if they have a deep-seated aversion to things that are holy that's another Telltale sign there's three of them that's two the third one is if they have knowledge of things they could never know so the most obvious cases uh that probably we've all seen if you've been doing this long enough is you know you can get a 20-year-old person who has a fairly low degree of Education you know like they barely can read and write and and then suddenly they're during their Deliverance prayers they start screaming at me in Latin

and I'm just like hold on pretty sure this little kid here doesn't know Latin or Greek or any other ancient language so those would be big signs um for me personally so like in my break room the big water jugs you know like I don't know how any gallons they are 20 30 gallon jugs uh the water that I drink is holy water so I make that water it has the exm salt in it so on the first time I meet a an alleged victim I bring them into the break room and I say hey

you know it's hot outside I'm going to get rip some water do you want some water they almost always say yes because people are basically polite even if they're Afflicted and they go to drink the water if they immediately have a reaction to that water I know this is real because the person had no idea that was holy water probably wouldn't even know what holy water is half the time CU they're usually not Catholic uh I had a girl take one Sip and she passed that and fell down on the floor completely said okay Bingo

we got one wow so you can do things like this I also will also keep a PIX in my pocket it's a little gold um I don't know what you'd call it it's a little case made out of gold and we put the Blessed sac in there when we go to see the sick and then when I'm ministering to that person I open the pics and I give them Holy Communion they receive it and we we that's what we carry rant to bring communion to people so if I'm interviewing somebody that says they're possessed and

about halfway through the interview I pull out the pics and I open it and they see the host and then if they start raging and going crazy I say okay you can relax because that's an unconsecrated host that's piece of bread so I think it's more of a psychological issue you're having not demonic the demon would know that's just bread interesting wow how many is I mean in in in Hollywood a lot of times we see the demon kind of um Proclaim who they are sometimes it's it it seems like there's multiple demons is is

there almost always almost always I've never had a case that was one demon there they're multiple and the the higher up on the totem pole the quieter they are the lowest guy is always the one that does the talking until we can get to that top guy how what is the most you've seen uh in terms of I don't know dozens in one person how do you I mean so how how does it how does it work is it is it one is released one by one and the names keep com it's not it's not

a science like that like they have to follow that protocol generally speaking if the person possessed or has Obsession or oppression uh really wants them out and they renounce whatever they did to let them in so let's say they make something up um played with a Ouija board and somehow these things went into them uh and they were looking for the supernatural communication with whatever so they you know they were it wasn't an accident uh then they have to say you know they were they're sorry for that sin of idolatry of seeking false gods and

they renounce that sin and if they're Catholic they can be absolved and then they say in in Jesus name now I don't want nothing to do with these demons well now they have nothing to hook into because her will is involved and God honors the will a lot and they may not go immediately but eventually they have to go and they know they do and they generally leave from the lowest to the highest and the little ones kind of just flutter away quickly until you're dealing with who's the king pin here and in the old

right of exis before Vatican 2 the priest asked two questions of the demon what is your name under uh penalty of Jesus Christ tell me your name and what is the date you've been assigned to leave this this person and they usually have to answer that unless there's something else going on we're not aware of like like the person uh who's the victim has opened other doors that they're not telling us that they're also hooked into you know what I mean like what kind of doors so maybe they're also doing witchcraft and we don't know

that but they're actively practicing it and they're actively putting spells on people and they're actively but they're not telling us that well those demons no we don't have to go because this person's still doing our thing it's our thing they're in our tent so until you perfect example have you heard of Satanic ritual abuse sras no uh so just like parents can take the authority to baptize a child by the parent's Authority the baby gets baptized so to the devil mimics everything God does and so too can evil happen where a person or a grandpa

a grandfather can take a baby and uh offer it to the devil and then Satanic ritual abuse of the child usually they have some kind of sexual act on the child oh man uh and offer that child to to the devil for power that they would gain some power in some way or wealth or whatever and and oftentimes the parent doesn't even know although they figure it out pretty quickly because the child immediately starts having problems and night terrors and suicide thoughts and all these horrible things come in we had a case of a woman

from uh Rome who was part of a religious order well-known religious order and they said we don't know what happened to her but suddenly she's she is possessed when we need to send her for help so she winds up with our group in Omaha we had her for over a year where she's getting daily prayer daily Deliverance daily intercessory prayer and praying over her it took a year and it was only when we found out because part of the process is there's teams that lift her up every day and ask the Lord what are we

should be praying for here what has to go and it kept coming back to uh a father figure in her life so we finally called her family and said look we there's something we don't know here uh did something happen to her as a baby and then the mother said there was a a family member who did something evil to her some kind of satanic um blood uh blood ceremony and did consecrate her to the the devil and I'm like I wasn't delete on the case that was the my B my my Superior it's kind

of like why do you think hiding that from us is going to help your daughter like why wouldn't you just come clean it wasn't you but they're so embarrassed and ashamed that they hit it so once we understood what we're dealing with we had to go back to take her back through um her time as an infant and walk her through the process of when the evil is happening that God was still watching over her and looking for her day of Deliverance that was coming now and when she took that healing when she embraced the

healing and the love then the thing left and but it took over a year but again she had no it was not her fault she did nothing wrong herself people hear that they get a little angry like well I don't think that's fair it's not fair evil is not fair MH man do when they Proclaim their name when the demon proclaims them their its name does that does that ever mean anything to you uh oddly the new right doesn't have it in it they don't want us talking questioning the devil at all but we can

still use the old right so on occasion I just did a big deliver exotism up in Chicago of a two two years that's going on in this case two years two years yeah she was a prostitute whose boyfriend probably her pimp um was a Satanist and he kept getting her pregnant and then offering the babies to the devil through abortion seven of them you know seven is kind of a funny number seven times so yeah I mean you just can't imagine the scenarios people get into often times not their own fault she was down on

her luck she got into this business she shouldn't have she meets this guy thinking he's going to help her and he's the worst thing that ever happened to her so I mean back to the the names of the Demons I mean do they other than Lucifer I mean are there are there any are there other demons that that that that maybe we should be aware of or or general population I would say no like again don't be too curious because you're just poking your head in stuff that you don't need to know that for your

own state of life um but some of these a lot of them are Old Testament demons like the Jews used to worship Malik Malik shows up a lot when there's abortion because the Jews were offering their babies to this thing they would Heat this statue it's a man's body with like a goat head with horns bull head with horns it has its arms out like this and they'd heat it till it was red hot burning like red and then they'd place the baby on the molten burning arms and the baby would Sizzle to death so

when God says to them stop worshiping these false Idols he's talking about this sort of stuff it's not just you know throwing a little incense before a false god they're burning their babies to death and they don't have to be so God would get really angry at them that demon he's still alive and well I think because abortion is still alive and well wow wow let's um let's take a quick break father and then uh we'll pick right back up when we get back join me and my special guests for the next behindth scenes experience

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talking about the the the firearm that I gave you and and you had mentioned that that was your first firearm and that it sounded like you were basically saying you're not overly concerned with your own safety and that um you were looking forward to the the the afterlife correct in short M and so I just wanted to give you the room to kind of expound upon that okay well this is going to be something different for a lot of people to hear because we live in a culture where um at all costs avoid pain and

suffering and at all costs extend your life as far as you can extend it out okay and I get that I understand where that comes from but I kind of um my own personal belief is that and I would say the church would stand with this too is that God knows the last day I'll be here and how I'm going that's an interesting story too I once asked him how am I going to die and he answered me uh but because I don't have a family or kids I don't know if I want to actually

have a gun because I i' I'd be afraid of using it and then killing somebody and then regretting that but I do understand that this is a hostile culture particularly against the church and it's going to get worse if if more laws are put into play to discriminate against uh gender and all these other things that the church has never wavered on um so maybe I should maybe I should have a gun just at least for a warning signal like there's a gun here go away well I didn't mean I didn't want to have a

discussion on the gun what I wanted to have a discuss the philosophy on on this life okay so that also very unusual because um we have all these medicine and operations that can extend our life and put us longer and longer longer down the road but I Know that heaven is far greater than this life I know that my citizenship is there not here this is a pilgrimage and I'm not really looking to extend the pilgrimage so to speak I mean I'm going to take take care of myself as best I can which is not

very good right now I'm as you can tell from my voice split open head high blood pressure not everything's firing well but I'm bet getting better you know I'm at least getting things under control and back on track um I broke my foot about two months ago and that put me out of the gym for like two months which that's enough to just kill you is to be away CU going back is so painful the first few weeks but I have to do that um and other things you know I bought a cold plunge to

try to shock my body every day into pain because pain is good and we don't experience enough of it like we're so conditioned on just be comfortable com comtable makes really fat lazy priests you don't want your priests to be fat lazy you want them to be strong and and alert and and agile to be able to do what he needs to do so that said um yesterday was the Feast of St TZ of L Su she died at 24 she's probably one of the most famous Saints in the church you go in any church

is Jesus and Mary statue and then terz in most churches maybe Anthony is another one she never left the convent she was cloistered for the 10 years she was a nun she never went on missions she never did anything heroic she never started uh a religious order she didn't do anything heroic or big what' she do she practiced what she called the little way she did uh small things with tremendous love and all offering them for Jesus and she wrote down her daily experiences in her journal and after she died that journal got published into

a book called The Story of a soul and now she's one of the most famous Saints in the world she's also a doctor of the church there's only four who are women she's one of them and she's the patron saint of missionaries because she always wanted to be missioned out to China of course she never went but in in the Providence of the church she is named as the patron saint of missionaries even though she never left the four four walls of her Cloister so God accomplished what he had to do with her in 24

years and before she died she said the Lord made it clear to her that her real work would begin in heaven where she would have a profound role in the church from heaven and if you've ever prayed in noven to St terz on the ninth day of that Novena miraculously almost always a rose shows up because she's called the Little Flower and people get a rose in some way shape or form or they smell roses in their home and there's no rose in the home like she's letting people know I'm still working hard for your

salvation even though Jesus did the heavy lifting we still have to choose every day are we going to choose God today are we going to choose to go away from God today and I'm always telling people in every decision we make in life you have to have on the horizon Heaven is the goal because you could amass vast amounts of money and power and success in this life if you really put your nose to the ground and do the hard work and you could come out you know $350 million at the end of life but

if you don't get to heaven you're a loser like a big loser the biggest there's no other that's the only thing you have to get right you can get everything else wrong but if you get to heaven you're a winner and I think a lot of the problems come in when people become too rich and famous you know this is Jesus said in the scriptures about it's harder for a rich man to enter Heaven than going through the camel through the eye of a needle what does he mean by that the problem I experience in

my firsthand interaction with wealthy people is not all but many most I would say you get to a point where you feel like I'm so in control I don't need anybody else including God like I'm covering all my bases I'm good and you kind of get duded into thinking that you're the master of your own destiny including Heaven that's a very dangerous place to be because that's pride and that's probably the one thing that will block you from getting into heaven is if you think you're going to go toe-to-toe with Jesus and getting you die

in a life you leave it all behind nothing goes with you so my big message is to people it's funny because John Rich the country music guy he just did a a very long episode with Tucker where he talked about the Book of Revelation and he wrote a song about it to wake people up because we're we're literally blind in these times to what's important he says you don't know when the end of your life is going to come but you better be ready and by ready I mean prepared for heaven so when I see

people in hospice and they're dying and they know they're dying I can tell within 10 seconds if this person is prepared their life to meet Jesus or if they squandered it away because they're either at radical peace and not fearing it or they're terrified and they don't know what to do if I could impose one point of this whole interview today to the people listening is um to embrace death because you're going to die may be the first to let you know you're going to die I know if anybody's ever said that to you you're

gonna die some people go through life not knowing or they deceive themselves think I'm never going to think about it because if I can just put it off long enough maybe I'll somehow skirt it in some way I don't know what they're thinking but the art of dying well is directly correlated to the art of living well and I when I say live well I mean uh putting God in the center of your life acknowledging he is God and I'm not trying to live a life worthy of the message Jesus left us uh with the

gospels loving God first our neighbor second putting our place third and when people do that that creates a lifestyle that's not focused on me it's focused on God and others and that's what creates Holiness and that's what creates virtue and at the end of life that creates a person that's ready to die and open to heaven and wanting heaven and I even tell people tell God you want to be a saint say it out loud I want to be a saint I think there's a power to the audible with regard to uh particularly with scriptures

I'm talking about directly to God not into the universe and the secret and all that nonsense and then you know look at some people we have the Saints as models of people who've been Victorious that's why we we don't adore the Saints we venerate them we say good job well done you did it and now help us get there too and you think about people preparing for death so there was a saint um named Dominic Savio in Italy he was about 12 years old and he was being mentored by a priest named Don Bosco who

also became a saint and Don was mentoring these young men on a life of virtue because a lot of them had bad lives and they weren't practicing uh the good Christian way you could say so one day he stopped and they were playing uh soccer football in it in Italy and um he said if Jesus appeared to you and said you had one hour to live what would you do with your life in that last hour you know some of the boys are like oh I'd probably have to run to confession or I want to

go to have mask quickly or I'd pray my rosary I have to go tell my parents I'm sorry for all the times I aggravated them and he looks at uh Dominic and says what would you do he go goes I'd play football he goes you play football he's like yeah I've already been to mass I've already prayed my rosary I forgiven everybody I need to forgive I have no one to ask forgiveness of I'm good I'm playing football yeah right that kid knows he knows the secret similarly John fiser is a a bishop that was

being held in the Tower of London for going against Henry VII on him marry wanting to marry another wife take another wife and he gets woken up in the morning by a guard he says they're going to execute you today around noon and uh John fish says okay I'm really tired can I go back to sleep okay so two saints that when faced with death decided one would go to sleep and the other would play football why because they're prepared and they're they're they're ready they're done I'm I'm locked and loaded let's go that's how

we want to finish what would you do me being uh kind of Alpha and wanting to cover every base I'd probably find the other priest that I live with and say I need to go to confession and have the Apostolic Pardon but I feel like I'm there most days anyway you know I go to confession at least once a month and that's not easy to do before I had this other priest come to live with me two weeks ago I'd have to go searching a priest but um there's a a a lot of Graces that

come through the sacrament plus there's something we have called plenary indulgences in the Catholic church where if I do certain things and I uh unite them to Jesus uh such as going to mass receiving communion a state of grace going to confession every 10 days and then if I pray a Rosary in the church I can ask for one soul to be busted out of purgatory every day or I can ask for myself to have my Purgatory removed now my theory on this is if I'm busting all these other guys out God's going to be

more lenient to me at the end of my life so every day I offer those prayers up for one soul to be moved into heaven and I'm pretty sure that somebody who at my at the help of my prayers got into heaven um is going to start praying for me the rest of my life and so I'm hoping when that day comes I'm going to look at this big army of saints that are like hey welcome good job we've been praying for you we've been waiting for this day and that's going to be like an

exciting day a fun day a good day that's a day I'm waiting for so I have a different view of death than most thank you for sharing that thank you for sharing that we kind of talked about um you know we're in the midst of uh some dark times and and I forget who you mentioned it it it said this is the most evil generation of all time Our Lady of magori which was just given the highest approval by the Vatican that that Apparition is valid wow like two weeks ago wow he's wow but what

does that what does that mean to you are we are we are we in end times I mean I think we're in the end of this age of Disobedience I don't think it's the end of the world because I'm pretty sure in Revelation it's talk about a Thousand-Year piece and I think we would have noticed that if that happened I'm pretty sure that didn't happen and these theologians say oh it's metaphorical it's don't look for a Thousand-Year peace well you know what were you there when he created everything no so like it could be true

maybe they will be an actual thousand years of real peace peace that only can come down from heaven uh but in the process we we're living in a very like you said it's dark uh a lot of the rulers of this world have an allegiance to Satan and and uh you know there's a propensity for Destruction right and I'm not going to go into all the wars happening but it's ironic to me you know whenever you look at the Old Testament and the is Israelites were being uh persecuted unjustly if they didn't create the problem

themselves and they were just being you know the country comes in try to take them over they're always Vindicated by the lord always he crushes the enemy and sets them free and they're fine now when they St he sometimes used armies to conquer them to teach them a lesson but then over time they would repent and then they would be put back into their proper place so when I see countries trying to annihilate Israel for no good reason I'm like do you know who you're messing with God's not going to just sit back if you're

literally stirring a pot trying to exterminate the Jewish people that he founded you better be careful and we better be on the right side side of that as Americans cuz I feel like we are telling Israel to pump your brakes and telling Iran you're fine you know we're going to give you a couple hundred billion dollars by the way what are we doing doesn't it doesn't it say that in the end times that all the nations will turn against Israel yes do you think that's happening right now no because all the nations have not turned

against Israel yet I mean I feel like we still at least verbally support Israel but no I think it'll be more dramatic than that and I don't think I don't think we're going to live in those times now but it's only my opinion and it's it's not even a really good one like it's just my opinion so don't take that to the bank uh but you know we're great we're sin abounds Grace Super abounds so the darker the days the more God's going to put his hand in to help us and that's really good news

because if you want to be a saint and you're living in times of Peace it's a a lot harder and longer to become that Saint if you're in the darkest of days you just put your hand up and say Lord I want to be a saint and there's a funnel in heaven that's going to come over you and go and they're going to advance you in Holiness very quickly because of the days we live in and that might be the quickening that you're feeling in like this transformation that's happening in your life or in my

own I'm seeing things I never used to see on a regular basis um of when God is working these Miracles and doing things that I'm just like I just step back amazed I'm like wow I didn't see that coming and in and and the more you see the exorcisms go up in number means the enemy is getting more riled up the more you see the what go up in exorcisms okay they're increasing ever since Co they've been multiplying really oh yeah well take away the sacraments close the churches and tell people to sit home idle

all day doing bad things what are you going to get that was a big mistake and the cases take longer to get the demons out so we used to have a lot of them would be one and done it's you know one session they're they're gone now it's two three four five times which I have to you know put on a calendar way out several weeks between them because I have other things I do and then the new cases come in and they're piling up so it's it's not a good situation in Italy they have

popup exorcism booths are you serious dead serious pop up see an explosion of demonic I mean is there I've recently read the book of Romans and you know it's really hard I'm not going to lie it's really hard for me to understand what I'm reading but Paul's l a big fan of punctuation but um but it sounded very similar to kind of what we're living into today um sexuality running rampid gender confusion there were a lot of things in there that when I read that I was like holy we're talking about modern day here are

these are these all signs that something's coming well I mean there's a lot of signs that the Lord said we could look to if you go to revelation or the Book of Daniel or even chapters in Matthew uh he talks about these end days but I'm not sure it's all the end of time but there I feel like we're in so let me this is again my own personal opinion we had 2,000 years of uh before Jesus came of God tapping the Israelites and making them his people and that was really when we read through

those scriptures it's really God the father who's speaking to them and then Jesus comes and we've had 2,000 years of focus on Jesus rightly so but we haven't had a had a period That's focused on the Holy Spirit who is an equal member of the Trinity and I feel like this age of the holy spirit is coming when God's going to crush the evil forces that are really derailing Mankind in whatever way he wants he's God he can do whatever he wants and then bring forth his Spirit on the planet in a way that would

uh have every everybody drawn into this great giant Shalom of Heaven this great uh time of peace and flourishing in God's word imagine that I mean that'd be like heaven on Earth and that's I think that thousand years they talk about in The Book of Revelation and that would be amazing because we've never seen that I mean there's pockets of that around the planet like this place in magori it's so Grace filled there that you can't help but feel joy and peace and you're it's out of Body Experience why and I'd go why does this

happen over here well first of all everybody there is practicing Catholic and practice their faith deeply everybody going there is seeking to go deeper in their Catholic faith and even the people that work in the shops they're all participating so they all go to mass every day they all pray in the Rosary every day and there's really no discontent there against the practice of that religion so it's just an open pipeline of Grace flooding this Village and you feel it when you walk in you can't say that about Rome can't say that about Lords Fatima

Guadalupe no because they're all in cities now that are partially Catholic partially Pagan and even the Catholics aren't all practicing their faith and so it it limits the grace that goes into those places you know you should go there you had something happen there correct oh yes that was I was when I was away from the faith all those years I went over there cuz a friend friend invited me and uh when I got there I realized it's one of these holy places I really don't want to stay but I stayed enough to go to

bed that night because I was tired and when I woke up in the morning I had this overwhelming peace that I've never experienced prior and only experience really when I'm back there and that's when I went looking for the priest to go to confession because I knew I said I'm going to stay the whole week cuz it's amazing to be here like I don't think you feel like this anywhere in the world and it's natur well Supernatural but it's it's not a drug it's real it's like coming from heaven so the funny thing is I

knew the confession was going to be pretty deep and dark so I went looking for a priest before the mass that was going to be kind of lenient and not judgy and so I find this priest outside the church and I call him Hollywood priest because he was like good-looking guy strong handsome tan and he's telling jokes to like these 10 women and they're all laughing at his jokes and he's smoking his cigarette I'm like that's the guy he will not be harsh on me and so I went to confession to him and you heard

the whole story he absolved me then he said I think you're going to be a priest and I said I don't know about that but anyway well lo and behold fast forward 19 years later I go back to magori with a group and they we did a Excursion outside of the village that day about 20 km away to another Parish that has a famous statue of our lady that we wanted to see so we went down there and when we pull up in the bus um the tour guide says wait a minute here the pastor

wants to come out and greet you all so we get out and we wait and out comes this priest and it's him it's the priest I went to confession to and I remember him because this was life-changing moment for me I'll never forget him under his face but when he sees me he looks up and he goes oh you became a priest and I go what I go you remember me and he goes yes I've been praying for you every day are you serious 19 years later wow and we went and had coffee and he

stopped smoking had a heart attack and you know we both aged quite a bit in 20 years but like only God can wrap those things up like that and let you know like not just for me but for him that he would know that his prayers paid off very very wow that's it's like that's profound right very yeah profound very profound I like to I I have like a lot of questions I want to ask and and they are very random go ahead but um so I'd like to talk about Easter and Christmas sure and

if those are the actual days and and I don't know where I'm going with this I tried to talk to Megan about this I was hoping that uh she had maybe a little more insight but from my understanding the resurrection didn't actually happen happen on the day we celebrate Easter well that day changes every year and that the Easter Bunnies represent some type of sexuality is there any is there any is there any truth to this okay so Christmas is on a set date the 25th of December is that the actual date not sure Easter

rotates based on the fullness the full moon of the month so that changes every year so clearly it can't always be that day because the day is always different uh but that's kind of not the important part but what you say about the the bunnies and all that um many times the Catholic holidays would come into existence and would be not just celebrating what they mean which is the birth of Christ but would also replace a pagan practice that was common for the pagans of that generation so in the case of Easter that was a

time of Springtime and they had many celebrations to the gods of fertility to make sure that the animals were fertile and had lots of babies to make their farms grow and things like that so yes there was probably some uh in some way that was meant to abolish the old thinking of the Pagan ways and bring forth the new teaching but it it the first and foremost is it was established for the purpose it was okay this is the resurrection of Jesus it is new life but this is the real new life not the new

life of your chickens and your goats okay makes sense makes sense what about there's a lot of talk about UFOs in the news today yes and there seems to be two camps maybe three camps there's the camp where people think it's uh you know military industrial complex type companies that are have some type of technology that nobody else has access to there's the camp that thinks that they're actually extraterrestrials and then there is a camp that's probably growing faster than any of the other ones which people believe these are some type of spiritual maybe demonic

type of entity and I've talked to I've talked to a lot of people about this stuff Ezekiel gets brought up uh a lot of times what what do you what is what do you think is going on with this UFO type stuff is it demonic I do think that there are countries with Advanced military uh projects that probably could replicate things in the sky that we don't understand that's for sure I mean we know Russia has missiles that we are not caught up on Hypersonic stuff that you know can get uh I think it's 20,000

M an hour or something you know that's going to look different in this sky that a plane um but with regard to extraterrestrial beings so creatures that have an intelligence and and a will there's not a big argument for that in the Bible when God created everything everything means everything so to have a creature that has an intellect and a will would put them on the level of man because we're the only ones who have an intellect and a that are created what do I mean by that so we have uh an intelligence that can

make deductions and come to conclusions that no other species can do dogs can learn something by habit but they're not deducing well if I move the dog bowl three feet to the left in the morning maybe they'll put more food in they're not thinking like that they're just going by habit but if there's a created being out there that is not talked about in the scriptures that would be bizarre that God would leave that out for what who knows what reason and in the catechism of the Catholic Church it makes a clear and definitive statement

that uh only man is a creature that was endowed with this ability to know God and choose him of the created order the Angels would be in the same boat but they don't have material bodies so once you say that it rules out all other life forms that would have an intelligence sure there can be bacteria on the moon or something that can grow but it's not thinking about growing nor is it trying to take over the moon so there's a difference there that's my opinion but they can inhabit uh life forms and look like

creatures do you think some of these orbs are some type of spiritual entity could be I mean think about this what would be the greatest hoax in the history of the world and we've been building it up for 60 70 years with the Star Wars false flag alien invasion Star Trek all this stuff and then finally one day the president gets on TV and says we're about to come clean there is another life form that we have to introduce you to here it is and they can speak English and communicate and they look weird and

they have higher intelligence of course they will if they're de demonic and they say we've come from another galaxy to let you know that you're getting off course and you need to make some adjustments if you want your world to survive and here's your big problem like uh we're going to give you some technology to show you that you can have clean energy with all the bells and whistles you know oh great let's have that and then they drop this in and by the way there's many other ways to God not just in the religions

that you know and that's the big Sinker where it gets everybody off they're all untethered from God now you don't have to do this just be kind to one another you don't have to worship God that's created more Wars in your world and than all the good works you could possibly do stop doing that well the higher life form just told us we shouldn't do it and they're clearly ahead of us so we better listen to them like people would go for it hook line and sinker because they're not Tethered to the one true God

they're not getting their face in the Bible every day studying the scriptures and learning what he really said and what is the only way to eternal life Jesus said I am the way not a way so once you call God a liar then and I can't I can't relate to you anymore we're not going to have a discussion do you think any of these entities could be for good if they're demonic no they they only have one goal and that's they want to they can't hurt God anymore they could hurt Jesus in the person when

he walked the planet but they he's untouchable now so the only way they get back at us or back at God Is by hurting his children that's their only Mission you know in the 12th Book of Revelation it says the went off to make war against the woman and her Offspring those who follow the laws of God and bear testimony to Jesus Christ that's that's a very small population of the planet even among Christians you know as we've discussed not everybody's following God's Will and not everybody's giving a testimony to Jesus I guess what I'm

also referring to is it's I'm I'm sorry I I did not understand the Ezekiel uh passages and so I'm kind of asking you it sounded like that I'll just let you go into it you would know more about that than but what is the passage I don't know what you're talking about well apparently there is a I don't know it but um there is a a part in Ezekiel where it sounds like it it sounds like some type of a some type of a UFO encounter uh but it makes it sound like it's actually an

angel I don't know I don't know what that is it's not the dry bones is it he says prophesy over these bones and they start growing senu and muscle and then the flesh comes then he say no that's not it that's not it I wish I had it well okay those creatures have six wings and they move only back W and forward and they don't spin or turn their head and they have human faces but then other uh the eagle is one side of their head the the lion is one side of the so they

definitely don't look like orbs okay and it says that that when they move the the sound of them is like Rushing Water it's so loud so it's a very definitive description that you can't just carve out well we don't really hear any noise but it still could be them or maybe it's just a light bul no these things had all sorts of things going on that were very unique uh if you see them then you can start thinking maybe Jesus is coming back okay but that'll look a lot different than an orb okay well speaking

of Jesus where where was he in the Adolescent years where he's not in the Bible he's there's like a period of time where he disappeared he's in Nazareth that's where he was raised oh okay and yeah we only know when he was 12 they lost him when they went up to the temple to worship and they took him in a caravan and it wasn't until like two days later they realized Mary thought he was with the man and Joseph thought he was with the women and he was neither but that's the only childhood scripture we

have for him interesting why do you think that is well the scriptures are are given to us for the purpose of uh giving us a clear Enlightenment on the way to heaven and I would say probably a lot of his childhood years although probably interesting don't have to do with the actual saving event of his passion death and Resurrection I think it would be very interesting to know but not definitive for our Salvation whereas his his adult years are very definitive okay and this is a funny thing you know like you're a guy I'm a

guy uh when we get when we buy something that's a little bit complex like even some of the new cars today it's like you sit in them and I'm like Oh my like I don't know what to hit first where's the on button there's an owner's manual you go to the owner's manual when you don't know what you're doing right you should anyway I know we buy you know dressers and things from uh the Scandinavian what is it called Ikea Ikea and we sit down go I can do this without the instructions and then two

hours later I'm like I have six extra parts here what am I doing wrong uh so you need to go to the owner's manual right and the Bible is the owner's manual for mankind to know how we're supposed to live and behave and work like if you got if you're passing a guy on the highway who's got a broken down car and he's got the engine open and he's looking at the engine and he has he's got the oil uh cap open he's got a jar of oil in this hand and he's got a jar

of honey in this hand and he doesn't know which one and you're like hey buddy let me help you I know what I know a little bit about cars no no I know what I'm doing leave me alone I go you should at least check the owner's manual it's going to say put the oil in the oil container and he's like no I'm good and he dumps the honey in and he goes to start the car and it's like dead yeah you didn't listen and you did it your way and you didn't check the owner's

manual and now by the way you're a pedestrian for life good luck but we do that with religion like we know better we're just going to do it our way and I wish people would go back to the scriptures and then even better if you can get somebody to kind of break them open for you there's a lot of great theologians out there who can do that go through you know Mike schmidtz is doing the one year Through the Bible he gives a little Direction it's it's enough like it would give us a better understanding

of not just who God is but when we understand who Jesus is we know who we are and if you don't know who you are the world is going to redefine you the way they want to see you and you're going to buy it and they're going to get lost you got to know who you are first do you feel like do you think there's a possibility that any of the scriptures have been held from the Bible or have been pulled through thousands of years that we're unaware of no well it depends what Bible you

have do you have a Catholic Bible I have a lot of Bibles I have a Catholic the Catholic Bible has seven books in it that the Protestant Bible doesn't have do you know mcabees no oh macbes man will be your book all right oh man these are warriors I'll check it out Warriors and they will fight to the death for their faith and their country there are a lot of people that think that um the Bible will become solely digital and that terrible problem and that things will begin to be pulled out of that and

so I know people that are that are stocking warehouses full of Bibles uh in preparation I say it on my radio show at least once a month go get yourself a paper Bible printed by a reputable company and also a catechism of the church because you don't know what you're looking at when you pull up something on the computer is that really what it says or is it something that sounds a little bit different than that or is it gone completely mhm those days are coming are you kidding with AI is evil is evil Satan

are they working through technology 100% how so since the dawn of Technology they've been working through technology I mean they manipulate everything when I'm trying to print out a homy the computer will suddenly jam up happens all the time anything that's going to expand God's kingdom the computer just stops Printing and I have to say in the name of Jesus Christ I bind all spirits of blockage and games off this computer and this printer and send you to the foot of the cross never to return here again and then prints out things break in the

home all the time the lights will go out for no reason and I spent a lot of the day just casting stuff out and things get back up uh there's a monor I know in DC who's an excellent Exorcist he does it full-time they text him the demons text him what do they text him uh they send blasphemies they they they say horrible things about Jesus and Mary they talk about some of his cases like this victim is never going to there ours forever you can't have them and they'll try to call that number on

the phone and it's it's a non-working number wow yeah they do this so imagine if they're doing that imagine the field day they could have with AI you already don't know what's generating it yeah yeah it uh scares the hell out I mean to be honest with what that could develop into yeah yeah I mean if if if these computers are actually learning if they're learning and they're going to bypass humans that doesn't pose well if they're being manipulated by a side that hates Humanity that's not good you know go back to that old movie

War games like that's got to be like 40 years old by now but back in the day you know that this kid could be playing a little computer game and suddenly he's tapped into like the nuclear codes and through a mistake is going to start a a World War by accident well that's you know that's it's a nice story with a you know precocious kid but now imagine that these computer intelligence can go into anything including the military you know or another country that we don't trust they send one missile we're going to assume it's

it's it's for our harm and we're going to have to defend ourselves yeah it is dangerous what about social media uh I don't like it um for very specific reasons so Instagram is basically pedaling Envy um Twitter's pedling anger and Facebook's basically just selling you and for all those reasons I don't like it and particularly for the children I I worry so much for the teenagers and the upand cominging teenagers because if that's where you're going to get most of your information it's mostly going to be false and it's going to create like again if

you don't know who you are and most teenagers don't know who they are yet the world's going to redefine you and it's going to tell you you're something you're not and that you're not worthy you're not good enough you're not pretty enough you're not smart enough you're not wealthy enough oh when I was a kid um we watch shows like The Brady Bunch and I Love Lucy and although they weren't you know exactly Our Lives they were pretty close like they lived in modest The Brady Bunch house was supposed to be amazing in the day

it's really not that amazing I Love Lucy they had two bedrooms and they slept in separate beds because that's the day uh but it wasn't like there was Envy over their Lifestyles like we could relate to them like we get it today when the kids are watching TV it's all these Mega millionaires in their big mansions with their private boats and their yachts and their airplanes and they turn off the program and they think my life is terrible I'm I don't have anything and it's really not true you know because almost two billion people on

the planet don't live in a home they sleep outside and they have to SC scavenger for food and they don't have running water like compare yourself to them and we are living like kings M MH right there's been a whole culture of ingratitude by Envy that's created through social media and Hollywood that's very true you know um Dom rozzo the same guy that gave me the that Rosary told me that he thought that the iPhone was the forbidden fruit and then if you look at the the logo is very interesting it is that's what he

said accidental I don't think so is there a lot of do you see a lot of symbolism in the world today like what we're talking about well there was a period of time up until maybe 10 or 15 years ago that the devil really tried to remain hidden and his biggest deception was to convince people he didn't exist and that went on for a long time where people were just like oh that's that's just not real that's fake you know even the uh the head of the Jesuit order right now the current head you know

it was just a couple years ago he came out and said the devil's not a real person it's just an uh it's an idea it's not real I'm sorry Jesus didn't go into the desert and do battle with an idea I think he was face to face with a man or a person so even in you know these the highest levels of religious life in the world who also from their Community we have a pope and apparently that guy didn't believe the devil was a real person so it's an odd time um where are we

going with this symbolism oh the symbolism okay so but in the last 15 years it is all out I'm alive and well and with you and I'm proud to be Satan worship me right we see it at the half Bowl uh super bowl half time performances all these uh award shows I mean it's everywhere and it's so blatant and the concerts the concerts what are some of the specific symbols you're seeing pentagrams uh upside down crucifixes um the the Ouija board is everywhere I was just in a city the suburb of Pittsburgh they go you

know just down the road is the largest Ouija board in the world it's the whole roof of a hotel and I'm like I don't need to see that but it's growing in popularity people are getting and we're coming up on the worst season of the year so Halloween is the devil's holy day that's his day people get angry with me they say father it's just kids putting on costumes trick-or-treating no not really because you're really participating in his day and why would you want to par participate in anything that's giving glory to to the devil

um I had a couple of families in the last Parish leave the school withdrew from the school because we didn't have Halloween in the school and I'm like this is your this is your Hill you're going to die on is Halloween like you're not going to do well in what's coming in the future if this is your big thing MH they left um in New York City where I'm from there was an exorcist there when I was on Wall Street after my conversion I met with him his name was Father James labar God Rest his

soul Pioneer Exorcist of our day and he told me that um Halloween's the most dangerous season of the year for the homeless and I'm like why is that are they eating bad candy what's going on here he's like no no no they have these vans that come around and they tell the homeless they're going to take them to the shelter they've got whole big meals set up for them and showers and they can wash their clothes and all this and they a lot of them get in the Vans and go and then they tie them

up and they hold them for the 31st and then they sacrifice them on the evening of Halloween to the devil and it's it's like a perfect crime because nobody's looking for them wow yeah wow I mean it's a big deal it's a real thing there's a video there is a video on YouTube which I'm shocked it hasn't been pulled down because it's a a guy about 20 years old who was raised in an occult family and he was groomed to become the the chief witch that was going to execute uh a girl on Halloween and

offer her to the devil and he went through with it and he talks about it face to face with the interviewer who's from some Christian Network and he says you know uh it's all part of the ceremony is this is to get more power we have to offer them a human life and so it's usually a young woman what kind of power do they get more demonic power so they can have more influence so they can have more wealth they can have more success but it's only fleeting it's not forever and then of course at

the end of life there's a big problem getting out of it yeah yeah wow I mean when you say your friend was a Pioneer Exorcist what does that what does that mean how was he a Pioneer because for a while the church just stopped it there was really no exorcism happening I remember when I first came back to the church my friend Father Benedict Rochelle he told me um I had said to him one day I said you know there was was something crazy happening in the church I can't remember what it was but it

wasn't off the charts but it was something stupid and I go why do this stuff keep happening you know why is it so messed up the church seems to be a complete mess a lot of the time and he says I'll tell you why he says because in America we have 2500 Canon lawyers and 11 exorcists that number should be reversed no disrespect to the Canon lawyers who are watching we need you we love you but he makes a point you know if Evil's having its day we need to be more offensive in fighting it

I think my last question is you know at the beginning of this you had mentioned that demons you had mentioned some type of a reference where you said demons are are very much like lawyers or attorneys and I've heard similar things before could you expound on that a little bit and explain why that is uh because when God set up the world and Creation in the universe including the spiritual aspects there's a Divine Providence that governs everything and in in as much as we can understand it and they understand it more because they're smarter than

we are um basically when we live our lives loving and obeying God and His laws basically we're protected from from the Supernatural power of the enemy the natural power is Temptation we're all subject to that through the original s and through concupisent that were're all saddled with but from the supernatural works of the the enemy usually we're protected now in very rare cases like Padre Pio and St John bani and St Anthony in the desert uh when they can't get their soul they they can just physically attack them and so many of these saints were

beaten during the night and and you would say well why does God allow that well he allows it to bring forth the greater good what would the greater good be that that those Saints knew that what was happening and they would be offering that to Jesus and uniting to his cross to convert their sufferings into Grace to save more souls and so in every attack the enemy throws at us we have the power to overcome him by uniting to jesus' cross and converting our trials into Grace to rescue more souls back from the enemy the

problem is most people don't do this and the enemy winds up winning that battle because they don't fight back in some cases they use the enemy's tactics to get revenge but that's a side story so again we were talking about legalities the legal aspects okay I'm getting a little bit brain fog it's been a few hours um so they know they can't they don't have domain over us because we have free will we have to choose to go against God to open up a door that they can come in and that's what they do they

and they're very patient they're patient legalistic spirits and they just wait and they wait so they throw out a little mild temptation to open a little bit of crack and then once they get in there they throw another temptation to open it wider and all of a sudden they have you know some guy on a rabbit hole in pornography for three hours going down this rabbit hole and then eventually going out and and and acquiring a hooker for you know gratuitous sex and now they own him till he gets free they own him and they

know their legal limits but the minute he repents and asks for God's Absolution and mercy they kind of have to go and they know that too so they kind of kind of keep you away from getting back to God and they'll put road blocks in your path and they'll make excuses and they'll feed you all these lies to get you convinced it's not worth it just stay where you are but they work the system and they know how to do it I mean these things have been around since creation watching human hum and I know

we all like to think we're special and unique but we're really not and they've been watching us for thousands and thousands of years and they know how the human person works and you you gotta unless unless you're under God's protection and and he's watching out for you you're never going to you're never going to beat him because they're a lot stronger than us but on the flip side you plus Jesus always equals Victory if you want to put it in simple terms that that's it you plus Jesus will always equal Victory and you never have

to be afraid thank you for saying that well you know I want to uh it's been a long interview I do want to I do want to wrap this up I I have a lot more questions but but uh I'll keep them at Bay for now but yeah and we can have a cup of coffee if you want to talk about other stuff another time I would love that I would love that I would love if you came down to church one Sunday I will do that 10:30 but make sure I'm in town I'm leaving

for two weeks I'm dreading this trip because I feel like I'm going to get trapped in Europe at the worst possible time I still have these weird like should I really be going on this trip you am I G to get back going to be trapped in a war well we'll be praying for you thank you and um I will I will come down and and uh join you for be great thank you for the invitation yeah and I invite you to confession too thank you you got to just I have to throw it out

there it be remiss in my job thank you you're welcome all right father God bless you thank you Sean thank [Music] you no matter where you're watching sha Ryan Show from if you get anything out of this please like comment subscribe and most importantly share this everywhere you possibly can and if you're feeling extra generous please leave us review on Apple and Spotify podcasts