Transcription: Waking Up ≠ Growing Up - Ken Wilber - YouTube

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What we started to get from the Enlightenment was, we did have this move up to rational world centric Universal approaches, but after about a century or so, reality was reduced to mostly just exterior material realities and so and as as that happened, we started to downplay things Like what were the good to true in the beautiful that's morals, science and art and the aesthetic and the morals I mentioned - tended to start getting validly, because the only thing it was really real.

Was that objective third-person truth? And so that's what we were looking to physics for and that's what we started looking to biology for and and so on, and so we we had moved up a stage or so in any sort of major developmental sequence, and that was good by the way it Was also why we really didn't get rid of slavery until about a hundred and fifty years ago, because, even though, prior to the Enlightenment, all almost all of the great meditative and contemplatively ISM to Christian mysticism, almost all of those societies had slavery and they had slavery.
Because the process of waking up or having a Satori and enlightenment of realization, that's a different process from the actual developmental process of growing up and those go through various stages.
Gene variation on jean gebser version of those stages of growing up is archaic to magic, to mythic, to rational, to pluralistic to integral, and so it was only as it moves from ethnocentric stages, which had had experiences of waking up and many of them had codified those.

I mean this was the way to get to an ultimate reality was have this experience of waking up and interval by the way includes that as a very, very important part of our overall human potential, but that's separate from developmental growing up and they're relatively independent.
You can be high on one and fairly low in another, so humanity did have these experiences of waking up, but they still had slavery because they were having waking up, but not as much growing up or developmental moving forward.
That's what happened with a Western enlightenment is that we moved up a stage in growing up, didn't change much in waking up as a matter of fact, I sort of went down a little bit, but what we did do when we got up to world centric.

Is we looked around said, wait a minute what you one person is owning another person.
That's not right, that's very, very bad! Shame on you, and so in literally a 100-year period from about 1770 to 1870.
Very recent slavery was outlawed in every major, rational industrial country.

On the face of the plan, nothing like that had ever happened, so it was moving up a stage just at large.
It didn't mean that individuals couldn't do that or sometimes even higher, but for culture at large.
This was a big shift and that's really what the Western enlightenment was about and that's what they are modern Universal worldcentric democratic ideals started to come for those stages of development.


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